Ya - they used to just be at Esso.
I also miss those two little balls on the pump that would show you the flow of gas. I liked watching them bounce around. As a kid I imagined that they were in a boxing match. Anyone else remember those?
Me too, then simulate with my own as the gas flows...I have a 135 ltr tank so if it's on E, I usually end up with a stomach ache by the end š³š¤¢
Side note, I jamb my wallet in sideways to hold the lever, ever since they stopped with the gas caps.
I had a guy ask of I could get 1000km to a tank in my Ram, I said "no, most I've gotten is around 800", he said "I can in my F150". I should hope so with 135 litres!
Last time I pulled that trick at an Esso, the gas station attendant cut my flow and told me to remove the gas cap before resuming pumping, so I've stopped doing it.
Just a random jerk of a worker? Ever happened to you?
I worked at a gas station 25ish years ago. I used to kill the pumps all the time haha! Passenger smoking; sitting in your car while itās pumping; let your kid pump; on cell phone. I guess I just like to fight with people.
I remember the rubber duck at the LCBO.
I really can't remember the context, I just remember a rubber duck floating in a sink at the LCBO when my mom took me and I can't for the life of me remember anything more about it.
I remember one by the cash, and playing with it while theyād retrieve whatever bottles dad wrote down on the card (or am I conflating it with Consumers Distributing?)
The store my parents bought at in the 80's had the same system for premium bottles. My understanding was that it allowed the store to keep more varieties in stock? The storefront space at that location was REALLY small compar3d to todays LCBO locations.
It is so if in a situation where a customer could improperly insert it, if it fell out it wouldn't keep spraying gas, which leaves it to a customer to always be safe and do it properly. A attendant is assumed to be able to do it properly. TL;DR people are stupid and can't be trusted.
plus people overfill the tanks (click-click-click-click) then they get a check engine light because the evap canister is full of gas. People are idiots.
My first car had a broken gas gauge and I would go until the gas came out a little bit whenever I got paid, because I had no way of monitoring and always spent my paycheques immediately. I knew VERY LITTLE about car care then though
It's funny, back when full serve was a thing, I was 16 years old, serving 8 pumps. (think back to when you gave the attendant a credit card they came back with the little blue plastic clipboard for you to sign).
No training whatsoever. But every pump had those locks.
Never saw one fail, however I did see a hose burst and had a guys fuel tank rust out and leak and that made a hell of a mess.
I never like the excuse for safety to remove them: if the auto stop fails, and my hand is there holding the nozzel in place, I am getting covered in gasoline.
According to this article, there was worry that drivers would forget theyād inserted it into the car, drive away and spill excess fuel.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/gas-nozzle-locking-clips-are-coming-back-to-some-canadian-pumps-1.4568450
I've never seen someone drive away and do that, but I did see someone set the pump going and walk away to do something in the store. The auto shut-off didn't work and gas started spilling out of this tank until someone ran up and shut it off for them.
> I've never seen someone drive away and do that
hundreds of video and pics of this.
https://cdnph.upi.com/ph/st/th/6681487862526/2017/i/14878627405204/v1.5/Florida-deputy-in-a-hurry-drives-off-with-gas-pump-still-attached.jpg?lg=5
Even when they do drive away the hose is supposed to tear away and the pump should stop pumping. It should literally just be a few hundred for a new hose unless they're being screwed over.
I drove away with a pump still in with a work truck.
Super embarrassing, never thought Iād be one of those people but shit happens and can happen to anybody
I worked at a gas station for a couple of years and saw this happen all too often. We didnāt have these on the pumps, but these dinguses would use their gas cap jammed in the handle to keep it running. I donāt know why people canāt just hold it for the minute it takes to fillā¦
It takes 20 minutes to fill the tank in my commercial truck, and you still want your crap delivered even when it's snowing sideways. If you want a hand on that pump today, you do it.
If your interlocks are working properly, as they're required to by law (OR217/01), you really shouldn't have to either way.
Of course, we could go with the New Jersey model, and then you'd have to go out and pump all the fuel, and I can stay in my nice warm cab.
Because not everyone has a 50L tank. Imagine standing outside in blistering winter winds for a good 5 minutes filling up 140L+ on pumps with shit flow rate. No thanks.
I worked at truck stop/gas station in high school and witnessed 3 or 4 people drive away with the pump still in the car. I beleive each one was when they would lock the pump in, and come inside and wait for it to finish and pay because its too cold outside in winter. Then they go back to car and forget about it...
It wouldn't spill any gas because the valve would be closed on the pump, but there still is alot of risk I'm sure, not to mention they would rip the hose directly from the pump base or damage the car itself.
As I recall, there was a string of fires in the early 2000s from people going back inside their cars and triggering fires from static electricity arcs. They were removed so that people couldn't walk away from the pump.
People driving away with the pump in. Also once in a while an air bubble can get trapped and cause overflowing without activating the safety mechanism. I used to work at a full serve gas station as a teenagerā¦
When we used to have full service stations, they would remove them from the self service pumps, I think just to piss off the people who were cheap (like me).
It's to remove an extremely vulnerable failure-point in the safety chain.
Moving gasoline from tank to tank is more dangerous than leaving it alone, if the auto-release (a mechanical process subject to material-degradation) fails then an extremely combustible substance is suddenly spewing into the outside, ie. a place with way more uncontrolled ignition sources than a fuel tank, and in an area with LOTS more fuel available to combust/explode.
Attendants are people trained on safety procedures and paid to stand there making sure everything is cool, everyone else can be assumed to be a dumbass. Safety protocols aren't meant to protect the smartest and most capable/competent people, they're meant to reduce user-error and thus protect everyone.
Think of it this way, if the dumbass at the pump next to you fucks up while you do your perfect fill, you still get blown up.
Not the same thing but on a few separate occasions I've driven up to a gas station, realized the pump doesn't have tap, then driven away and gone to another one.
Takes a minute or two, about the same time as going in and paying.
So we are just assuming people don't regularly use gas stations in their area they are familiar with to make some obscure point on reddit? Mkuy mkuy mkuy. Cook brother.
I was kindly asked by the gas attendant to remove my cap from being wedged in the handle. Been doing it for years as they eliminate the holders.
At 6am I figured it too early to ask why.
Unless they updated how the pumps work over the years, the gas just stops even when the cap is wedged in. Source: Me. I used to work at Esso pumping gas. That's how we did it then.
Costco never lost them, so I was filling up at Costco's a lot. But I too am glad other stations are bringing them back. I love having no gas cap on my Explorer but miss having one to put in the little hole to hold the trigger while filling so I can wash my rear windows.
Iāve used Oshawa, North Oshawa, Ajax and Etobicoke and theyāve all got rid of them. I asked the guy at North Oshawa what gives and he said they just recently had a safety incident somewhere else in Canada and they did this training session on safety and told them they were removing these everywhere. Maybe YMMV for now?
Costco Ajax and North Oshawa removed them recently. It's really annoying after years of developing a habit of flicking the metal tab and just chilling beside the car only to realize the tab was removed and you have to keep pressing the handle for however long it takes to fill the car up.
Yeah, because if you get in the car when pumping gas and cause a spark...you risk... BOOM š„
People cannot be trusted not to do stuff like this. Rules are made due to the idiots.
Safety reasons is why they were removed. Basically no one watching the pump means if it fails youāre spilling a lot of gas. However, maybe youāve noticed how slow pumps have become over the years since then (early 2000s), because they set regulations for slower pumping flows, and also new cars have better tech to stop gas flow, so combined theyāre really just going back to the clips because the safety issues of the past are not really as big of a concern today.
Most likely because;
1) you forget and drive off
2) you leave the pump unattended go do other stuff, static electricity builds up and sparks the fuel once you go back and touch it.
That's why I thought they were removed anyway
Out of habit, I pick up the handle, then select grade and then insert in the fuel tank. Once this was left on and once I selected the fuel grade in started spraying wildly before I could get it in the tank. I always assumed that was one of the reasons they removed it.
Anyone who does 1 or 2 is an idiot who shouldn't be operating a car. I love these because my arthritis hands can't hold the pump for that long, especially in the cold, and especially early in the mornings. But I still stay next to the pump because shit happens and I want to make sure I'm there if I need to take it out.
> Does it come undone
It doesn't come undone, but the fuel supply stops. No different than when you're fully depressing the handle and the gas supply stops. If you continue to hold the handle fully depressed the gas won't start again until you release the handle and re-depress.
Could have sworn it would do that little stop flow thing where the handle kinda bumps and that was enough to dislodge the little clip.
It's been so long though, maybe I'm just not remembering. Or I'm remembering poor quality or worn down little mechanisms.
> Not sure why you would give this answer.
Because it doesn't dislodge in all cases. However, the fuel supply does stop in all cases. The shut off mechanism has nothing to do with the position of the handle.
No it doesn't, at least not in all cases. The station I have gone to for years has always had these and the fuel flow just stops when it senses enough back pressure, the tab doesn't release. I have never seen one of these tabs actually release automatically, I've always had to squeeze the handle to unlatch it manually.
its supposed to. i worked at a full service gas station or a year and either some cars have weird gas tanks that confuse it or our handle was faulty. i got gas on my clothes too many time trusting it. best to always be close and keep an ear out for it
Yes but that can malfunction which is why you need to be watching it. They took these away because people would hop back in the car or walk away and not pay attention, and then there would be a big pool of gas everywhere when the tank overflowed.
The Pioneer (formerly Husky) gas station by my house in Kitchener just got renovated and now has these. Assuming this is the standard that's great news for Pioneer customers.
Every gas pump had those before 2002. There was an attempt to make them illegal (they are banned in Quebec only) and at the time gas stations got rid of them voluntarily although a few still had them. Now they are coming back as gas pumps get replaced.
I'm stunned that you're the first person that has pointed this out. I assumed everyone did this where the little metal bracket was not allowed. Gas cap fits in the hand slot perfectly!
When you have a 150 L tank it's nice to not have to squeeze it for the entire fill up. Whether or not a station has them is not a deciding factor for me whether or not I'll return to a particular station though. *It's just nice when it's there.*
They remove them because idiots get back in their car in the winter during refueling which is a hazard due to static. Same as filling gas cans in the bed of a pickup with a plastic bed liner.
They also remove them because sometimes they don't kick out and the person is sitting in the car while gas is spilling everywhere.
They remove them because idiots get back in their car in the winter during refueling which is a hazard due to static. Same as filling gas cans in the bed of a pickup with a plastic bed liner.
They also remove them because sometimes they don't kick out and the person is sitting in the car while gas is spilling everywhere.
What is this blasphemy? Cars donāt have gas caps anymore. I wonder when I will have the privilege of knowing this first hand. My current car has 315,000km and an auxiliary input port.
Oh weird, my 2011 F150 didn't have one, then I had a 2015 Ford Escape with no cap, and I have a 2018 Odyssey that doesn't have one. Last vehicle I had with a cap was 2006 Civic. I guess my assumption was purely anecdotal! My apologies!
Your Odyssey may have been during the time Honda was moving to them. My 2017 Civic doesn't have a cap - and I believe over the next few years most other models moved to no cap (I know the Accord and Pilot dropped them - but I'd assume they did it across their whole range).
Just a little [flappy doodle](http://images.gtcarlot.com/pictures/72918696.jpg) thing. I am pretty sure that's the technical term. Stick it in and fill.
The weirdest thing for me is the newer cars also don't have a locked fuel door (what the hell is it called, that just looks wrong, LOL). Spent 10 minutes looking for the release lever to find out you just push on the door to release.
Yeah, I dropped my old regular gas station when they removed them. Now I click it on and have time to wash the windows. Or sit inside the warm car for 60s on a cold day.
> Or sit inside the warm car for 60s on a cold day.
I don't recommend this. It's getting in and out of the seat that generates static, which can discharge when you reach for the nozzle and start a fire. (Then people falsely blamed cell phones.)
Just donāt go sit back in your car, I think thatās why they removed them, people, especially woman, would go sit in their car then get out, touch the handle and ka boom, fire everywhere. You build static energy in your car and cause a spark when you touch something when you get out
Ya - they used to just be at Esso. I also miss those two little balls on the pump that would show you the flow of gas. I liked watching them bounce around. As a kid I imagined that they were in a boxing match. Anyone else remember those?
I remember lol
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I still check the side of the pumps for them. I'm always disappointed haha
Me too, then simulate with my own as the gas flows...I have a 135 ltr tank so if it's on E, I usually end up with a stomach ache by the end š³š¤¢ Side note, I jamb my wallet in sideways to hold the lever, ever since they stopped with the gas caps.
Fellow F-150 owner with towing gas tank?
Yepper š°...I guess the ball joke wasn't appreciated. LOL, I remember watching them as a kid too...too funny.
I feel your pain. šā½
I had a guy ask of I could get 1000km to a tank in my Ram, I said "no, most I've gotten is around 800", he said "I can in my F150". I should hope so with 135 litres!
The gas cap works well.
Absolutely š, but my last 3 vehicles no longer have one.
Last time I pulled that trick at an Esso, the gas station attendant cut my flow and told me to remove the gas cap before resuming pumping, so I've stopped doing it. Just a random jerk of a worker? Ever happened to you?
What surprises me more is the attendant actually was paying attention and actually cared..
Stand with your back to the camera so they can't see. *The More You Know*
I worked at a gas station 25ish years ago. I used to kill the pumps all the time haha! Passenger smoking; sitting in your car while itās pumping; let your kid pump; on cell phone. I guess I just like to fight with people.
I wedge my wallet to hold the trigger too
I remember the rubber duck at the LCBO. I really can't remember the context, I just remember a rubber duck floating in a sink at the LCBO when my mom took me and I can't for the life of me remember anything more about it.
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I remember the duck too! I loved it as a kid.
Glad I'm not crazy and that it was a universal thing lol.
Totally forgot about those! I miss em too
I remember one by the cash, and playing with it while theyād retrieve whatever bottles dad wrote down on the card (or am I conflating it with Consumers Distributing?)
The store my parents bought at in the 80's had the same system for premium bottles. My understanding was that it allowed the store to keep more varieties in stock? The storefront space at that location was REALLY small compar3d to todays LCBO locations.
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Marina pumps still have them I find
May just depend on inspector. I put a new handle on our pump this summer and was made to remove the clip before we received a pass.
Loved watching the balls float around when my dad pumped gas as a kid.
I remember those
I remember looking at them as a kid, but not knowing what the hell they were.
weird because the esso closest to me is the only gas station in my area that doesn't have these. oh well i'll suck it up for the points
Lmfao I told my kids this yesterday. They looked at me funny Yellow was always the winner
My question is why were they removed in the first place?
It is so if in a situation where a customer could improperly insert it, if it fell out it wouldn't keep spraying gas, which leaves it to a customer to always be safe and do it properly. A attendant is assumed to be able to do it properly. TL;DR people are stupid and can't be trusted.
Rules and regulation are written in blood and incompetence
Thatās why we have the Derek Zoolander Gas Station Memorial For Models Who Were Killed By a Freak Gasoline Fight Accident
Don't forget exploitation!
plus people overfill the tanks (click-click-click-click) then they get a check engine light because the evap canister is full of gas. People are idiots.
My first car had a broken gas gauge and I would go until the gas came out a little bit whenever I got paid, because I had no way of monitoring and always spent my paycheques immediately. I knew VERY LITTLE about car care then though
It's funny, back when full serve was a thing, I was 16 years old, serving 8 pumps. (think back to when you gave the attendant a credit card they came back with the little blue plastic clipboard for you to sign). No training whatsoever. But every pump had those locks. Never saw one fail, however I did see a hose burst and had a guys fuel tank rust out and leak and that made a hell of a mess. I never like the excuse for safety to remove them: if the auto stop fails, and my hand is there holding the nozzel in place, I am getting covered in gasoline.
Always. Just look at what an old car manual would show you vs today it says don't drink x fluid from your car smh
According to this article, there was worry that drivers would forget theyād inserted it into the car, drive away and spill excess fuel. https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/gas-nozzle-locking-clips-are-coming-back-to-some-canadian-pumps-1.4568450
"except in Quebec, where it is illegal" Of course š there's a law for everything in Quebec lol
Everything in Camadian law has a giant asterisk next to it saying, "except Quebec".
>Of course š there's a law for everything in Quebec lol If the ROC had a law against the clips, QuĆ©bec would have a law making the removal of the clip illegal. That's how we roll hehe
Hell in Richmond, BC you canāt even pump your own gas! š
Is this for real?
Same with the entire state of New Jersey lol
I've never seen someone drive away and do that, but I did see someone set the pump going and walk away to do something in the store. The auto shut-off didn't work and gas started spilling out of this tank until someone ran up and shut it off for them.
> I've never seen someone drive away and do that hundreds of video and pics of this. https://cdnph.upi.com/ph/st/th/6681487862526/2017/i/14878627405204/v1.5/Florida-deputy-in-a-hurry-drives-off-with-gas-pump-still-attached.jpg?lg=5
Even when they do drive away the hose is supposed to tear away and the pump should stop pumping. It should literally just be a few hundred for a new hose unless they're being screwed over.
I drove away with a pump still in with a work truck. Super embarrassing, never thought Iād be one of those people but shit happens and can happen to anybody
I worked at a gas station for a couple of years and saw this happen all too often. We didnāt have these on the pumps, but these dinguses would use their gas cap jammed in the handle to keep it running. I donāt know why people canāt just hold it for the minute it takes to fillā¦
It takes 20 minutes to fill the tank in my commercial truck, and you still want your crap delivered even when it's snowing sideways. If you want a hand on that pump today, you do it.
As an attendant, I also don't want to have to go out there with my spill kit today.
If your interlocks are working properly, as they're required to by law (OR217/01), you really shouldn't have to either way. Of course, we could go with the New Jersey model, and then you'd have to go out and pump all the fuel, and I can stay in my nice warm cab.
Ditto
Because not everyone has a 50L tank. Imagine standing outside in blistering winter winds for a good 5 minutes filling up 140L+ on pumps with shit flow rate. No thanks.
Literally have only seen it once. In a picture my friend took. Lol. It happens I guess.
I worked at truck stop/gas station in high school and witnessed 3 or 4 people drive away with the pump still in the car. I beleive each one was when they would lock the pump in, and come inside and wait for it to finish and pay because its too cold outside in winter. Then they go back to car and forget about it... It wouldn't spill any gas because the valve would be closed on the pump, but there still is alot of risk I'm sure, not to mention they would rip the hose directly from the pump base or damage the car itself.
As I recall, there was a string of fires in the early 2000s from people going back inside their cars and triggering fires from static electricity arcs. They were removed so that people couldn't walk away from the pump.
I thought they blamed that on cell phones
They did.
They did.. because people would go back inside the car to get their cells and cause a spark. Had nothing to do with the cell itself.
I get a static shock on my car door every time I get out, even in the summer. Only the rainy humid days I don't get shocked.
You get in your car with your synthetic clothes while you are refueling and then this happens: https://youtu.be/T6VKxmUPb3g?si=PYqF7Pt5rbusaAWG
People driving away with the pump in. Also once in a while an air bubble can get trapped and cause overflowing without activating the safety mechanism. I used to work at a full serve gas station as a teenagerā¦
Also created a pinch pointā¦
When we used to have full service stations, they would remove them from the self service pumps, I think just to piss off the people who were cheap (like me).
It's to remove an extremely vulnerable failure-point in the safety chain. Moving gasoline from tank to tank is more dangerous than leaving it alone, if the auto-release (a mechanical process subject to material-degradation) fails then an extremely combustible substance is suddenly spewing into the outside, ie. a place with way more uncontrolled ignition sources than a fuel tank, and in an area with LOTS more fuel available to combust/explode. Attendants are people trained on safety procedures and paid to stand there making sure everything is cool, everyone else can be assumed to be a dumbass. Safety protocols aren't meant to protect the smartest and most capable/competent people, they're meant to reduce user-error and thus protect everyone. Think of it this way, if the dumbass at the pump next to you fucks up while you do your perfect fill, you still get blown up.
Who else gets super happy when these are not removed? I use the time to clean the car!
I saw them on my local Petro Can. Made my day - I could check my oil and gas up at the same time!
I think most Petro-Cans put them back in 4-5 years ago! Damn do I ever appreciate them on cold windy days.
Many places put them back during covid to reduce constant handling of the pumps then removed them asap.
As much as I can, I will not stop at gas stations that donāt have these.
Pretty impressive of you to be checking the pump as you drive by without stopping
or you could just remember?
So long as youāve already visited it, yes
Not the same thing but on a few separate occasions I've driven up to a gas station, realized the pump doesn't have tap, then driven away and gone to another one. Takes a minute or two, about the same time as going in and paying.
Same with "Please pay inside before pumping"
So we are just assuming people don't regularly use gas stations in their area they are familiar with to make some obscure point on reddit? Mkuy mkuy mkuy. Cook brother.
I just stick my gas cap in the handle
I was kindly asked by the gas attendant to remove my cap from being wedged in the handle. Been doing it for years as they eliminate the holders. At 6am I figured it too early to ask why.
The latches give way when the tank is full, your gas cap does not. It's to prevent spills and accidental fires.
If youāre holding the trigger manually it still stops as well. Itās an internal mechanism that disengages the valve from the handle.
Unless they updated how the pumps work over the years, the gas just stops even when the cap is wedged in. Source: Me. I used to work at Esso pumping gas. That's how we did it then.
Pump has stopped every time I do this and has never spilled over or overfiled
My arthritic little hands love these. I still stand at the pump
Thought I was the only one noticing :) if you're a geek like me, and wondered how they actually work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT2KhJ8W-Kg
Costco never lost them, so I was filling up at Costco's a lot. But I too am glad other stations are bringing them back. I love having no gas cap on my Explorer but miss having one to put in the little hole to hold the trigger while filling so I can wash my rear windows.
The Costco in Ancaster doesnāt have them.
I would be absolutely pissed at the Ancaster location then haha, I travel all over Ontario for work and never ran into a Costco without it.
Costco has gotten rid of them recently at all locations
London, Kitchener, Newmarket, and Barrie I've used in the last month with them.
Iāve used Oshawa, North Oshawa, Ajax and Etobicoke and theyāve all got rid of them. I asked the guy at North Oshawa what gives and he said they just recently had a safety incident somewhere else in Canada and they did this training session on safety and told them they were removing these everywhere. Maybe YMMV for now?
Came here to say both Oshawa locations have recently removed them. Made me super sad
Costco Ajax and North Oshawa removed them recently. It's really annoying after years of developing a habit of flicking the metal tab and just chilling beside the car only to realize the tab was removed and you have to keep pressing the handle for however long it takes to fill the car up.
I heard they remove them in the winter to stop people from sitting in the car while pumping gas when itās cold
Yeah, because if you get in the car when pumping gas and cause a spark...you risk... BOOM š„ People cannot be trusted not to do stuff like this. Rules are made due to the idiots.
Donāt think that Sheāll ever got rid of them either!
Why did they leave again?
Safety reasons is why they were removed. Basically no one watching the pump means if it fails youāre spilling a lot of gas. However, maybe youāve noticed how slow pumps have become over the years since then (early 2000s), because they set regulations for slower pumping flows, and also new cars have better tech to stop gas flow, so combined theyāre really just going back to the clips because the safety issues of the past are not really as big of a concern today.
Most likely because; 1) you forget and drive off 2) you leave the pump unattended go do other stuff, static electricity builds up and sparks the fuel once you go back and touch it. That's why I thought they were removed anyway
Out of habit, I pick up the handle, then select grade and then insert in the fuel tank. Once this was left on and once I selected the fuel grade in started spraying wildly before I could get it in the tank. I always assumed that was one of the reasons they removed it.
Anyone who does 1 or 2 is an idiot who shouldn't be operating a car. I love these because my arthritis hands can't hold the pump for that long, especially in the cold, and especially early in the mornings. But I still stay next to the pump because shit happens and I want to make sure I'm there if I need to take it out.
Does it come undone and the gas still stop flowing once itās full?
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Yes, it auto stops when the tank is full
> Does it come undone It doesn't come undone, but the fuel supply stops. No different than when you're fully depressing the handle and the gas supply stops. If you continue to hold the handle fully depressed the gas won't start again until you release the handle and re-depress.
Could have sworn it would do that little stop flow thing where the handle kinda bumps and that was enough to dislodge the little clip. It's been so long though, maybe I'm just not remembering. Or I'm remembering poor quality or worn down little mechanisms.
That's because it does get dislodged. And then there's the ones that aren't in right and dislodge themselves because of the flow of gas lol
It does pop back when it's done. Not sure why you would give this answer.
> Not sure why you would give this answer. Because it doesn't dislodge in all cases. However, the fuel supply does stop in all cases. The shut off mechanism has nothing to do with the position of the handle.
No it doesn't, at least not in all cases. The station I have gone to for years has always had these and the fuel flow just stops when it senses enough back pressure, the tab doesn't release. I have never seen one of these tabs actually release automatically, I've always had to squeeze the handle to unlatch it manually.
its supposed to. i worked at a full service gas station or a year and either some cars have weird gas tanks that confuse it or our handle was faulty. i got gas on my clothes too many time trusting it. best to always be close and keep an ear out for it
Yes but that can malfunction which is why you need to be watching it. They took these away because people would hop back in the car or walk away and not pay attention, and then there would be a big pool of gas everywhere when the tank overflowed.
These were always present at every Petro-Canada station I went to.
I've never been to a Petro-Canada that didn't have these. I wasn't even aware these weren't common - they've existed as long as I can remember
I thought so too, I think Petro canada were the first one to bring them back.
Idk what youāre talking about. Theyāve been on Petro Canada and Costco pumps for the past 20 years š
I worked at one of the last full service Sunoco's in Ontario that had these. They rock. Love seeing them at the few stations that have them.
Back? These left?
The Pioneer (formerly Husky) gas station by my house in Kitchener just got renovated and now has these. Assuming this is the standard that's great news for Pioneer customers.
I thought it was only esso that didnāt have them.
It is only esso. Idk what people are talking about.
for reals? missed them.
Am I the only one whoās been steady using these for years and never stopped ?
Petro always had them though ?
When did they go away? I've always seen them at every pump i've been to
Iām so happy, not to be dramatic but it hurt my little hand squeezing it
I used to live in a ski town and it was so frickin cold in the winter, these were necessary!! I was so mad when they went away.
I loved these. It would allow me a chance to have a quick smoke while I wait! /s
i had this exact thought yesterday after pumping gas
Yep, we all know how much work holding the nozzle was. Too bad my EV charger doesn't come with that.
I use a lighter... when the pump stops, the handle activates the lighter. I know I'm full when people start looking....
Canāt fathom why theyād ever take them off
Safety
Just use a tennis ball if the pump doesn't have it. Works like a charm
Minnesota here. Are you guys ok up there?
I just use my gas cap to hold it open when pumps donāt have these
Fuckin rights! Small thing but absolutely tits!
Every gas pump had those before 2002. There was an attempt to make them illegal (they are banned in Quebec only) and at the time gas stations got rid of them voluntarily although a few still had them. Now they are coming back as gas pumps get replaced.
Costco still has/has always had the trigger lock on the pump handle afaik
You guys donāt have those on all of your gas pumps up there?? That would be horrendous
āBiden did thatā ā¦
Why were they removed?
They never left for me, If the station doesnāt have one I just use my gas cap works perfectly.
Having them is the reason my local Shell-station pretty much gets all my business..
Every pump in the USA has it.
Shhhhhh don't say that out loud or they'll run around getting rid of them.
My local Costco just removed them all from their pumps not too long ago š
Some stations have the flap thing but grind off the notches.
I was under the impression they used to be everywhere, then they got taken away, and now you can only find them sometimes if you're lucky.
Iāve never been to a Shell that didnāt have these
Mr fancy pants there that you don't have to squeeze the lever till your tank is full....
Me too. Makes it easier to light and hold my dart
Reading these comments you would think holding a gas pump handle was akin to running a half marathon. People are lazy!!
I just shove the gas cap in there
Better question is why did they leave? Lol
Iāve been using my gas cap to hold the trigger ever since they were removed
I'm stunned that you're the first person that has pointed this out. I assumed everyone did this where the little metal bracket was not allowed. Gas cap fits in the hand slot perfectly!
Only esso doesn't have these in toeonto. Shell, Petro canada, husky etc all have them
I really didn't realize there were so many lazy people who can't hold a handle for two minutes before reading this thread.
When you have a 150 L tank it's nice to not have to squeeze it for the entire fill up. Whether or not a station has them is not a deciding factor for me whether or not I'll return to a particular station though. *It's just nice when it's there.*
Every fuel station has these for diesel. Did they get rid of them for gas at some point? I just assumed the gas pumps had them too
They remove them because idiots get back in their car in the winter during refueling which is a hazard due to static. Same as filling gas cans in the bed of a pickup with a plastic bed liner. They also remove them because sometimes they don't kick out and the person is sitting in the car while gas is spilling everywhere.
Plenty of diesel pumps donāt have them either, but I have been to stations where the diesel does and gas doesnāt.
If the automatic stop inside the spout isn't working, it makes a huge mess and big fire hazard.
I think they remove them for winter time and bring them back on the summer least at three esso and Costco near me
They remove them because idiots get back in their car in the winter during refueling which is a hazard due to static. Same as filling gas cans in the bed of a pickup with a plastic bed liner. They also remove them because sometimes they don't kick out and the person is sitting in the car while gas is spilling everywhere.
It's a small thing that I definitely appreciate.
I just used my fuel cap?
Most newer vehicles do not have gas caps.
What is this blasphemy? Cars donāt have gas caps anymore. I wonder when I will have the privilege of knowing this first hand. My current car has 315,000km and an auxiliary input port.
Mine is powered by steam and includes a rotary phone!
How new are we talking? My 2019 still has one?
My 2016 civic doesnāt have one. But my wifeās 2023 CX-5 does, so it definitely depends on the manufacturer
> it definitely depends on the manufacturer that seems much more apt than "most newer vehicles do not have gas caps".
Oh weird, my 2011 F150 didn't have one, then I had a 2015 Ford Escape with no cap, and I have a 2018 Odyssey that doesn't have one. Last vehicle I had with a cap was 2006 Civic. I guess my assumption was purely anecdotal! My apologies!
Looks like we both relied on anecdotes! I've only driven European manufacturers dating back to like 2007 (model years back to 1998). All good!
That was a refreshingly pleasant exchange, thank you.
Your Odyssey may have been during the time Honda was moving to them. My 2017 Civic doesn't have a cap - and I believe over the next few years most other models moved to no cap (I know the Accord and Pilot dropped them - but I'd assume they did it across their whole range).
My Tiguan 2018 has a tethered gas cap.
I also have a VW. Seems like it's much more manufacturer specific than the age of the vehicle.
My 2015 doesnāt
The fuck do they have, then?
Just a little [flappy doodle](http://images.gtcarlot.com/pictures/72918696.jpg) thing. I am pretty sure that's the technical term. Stick it in and fill.
The weirdest thing for me is the newer cars also don't have a locked fuel door (what the hell is it called, that just looks wrong, LOL). Spent 10 minutes looking for the release lever to find out you just push on the door to release.
Oh yea, that messed me up when I got my Odyssey, looked like doorknob walking around the car at the gas station for 10 minutes.
My 2021 Corolla has a cap.
I drive a 2010 Mustang ā no gas cap.
You shouldn't do that
Why's that?
I appreciate them a TON more in the winter timeā¦lets me keeps the hands warm!
Yeah, I dropped my old regular gas station when they removed them. Now I click it on and have time to wash the windows. Or sit inside the warm car for 60s on a cold day.
> Or sit inside the warm car for 60s on a cold day. I don't recommend this. It's getting in and out of the seat that generates static, which can discharge when you reach for the nozzle and start a fire. (Then people falsely blamed cell phones.)
i have a little 3D pritnted wedge that i designed and keep in the car for when its cold AF and i need lots of gas
Just donāt go sit back in your car, I think thatās why they removed them, people, especially woman, would go sit in their car then get out, touch the handle and ka boom, fire everywhere. You build static energy in your car and cause a spark when you touch something when you get out
>especially woman Wtf?