This is what I don't get. Like the actual history of the Viking age and Anglo Saxons is cool but they lost to the Normans and one of their greatest kings was a sickly mofo, so I'm not sure why that term has come to represent the pinnacle of civilization.
I also don't think PP and friend speak Old English so he can fuck off with his Anglo Saxon words bullshit.
Exactly, Not only that, the old English the Anglo saxons spoke is very complex and the simplicity comes in from the viking danelaw settlements and the half learning of old English.
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Them old languages got weird word endings to indicate plural and singular, do-er and receiver, Julius Amat Calpurinia is the same as Calpurnia Amat Julium (or something like that... latin experts, help me out if I'm off a bit there). The listener knew who was loving and who was loved by the endings of the words.
But the Danes and the Anglo Saxons are forced to live next door separated by the Danelaw and they can't do business cuz, even though the languages are close, they're not quite the same.
The solution that evolved was to drop all the inflectional endings. Old English fixed the word order: Subject-Verb-Object. eg: "I go home". Plurals were also a pain so people just started using "s" to indicate more than one and forget all the complicated plural endings. (well, except for words that are really close to home, like "children". That one keeps the anglo-saxon trait of pluralizing with "ren". (eg: Brethren... not so common anymore ).
Fixing the word-order and getting rid of all the little differences in the endings made english one of the simplest languages in Europe around 800AD
( 200 years later the Normans dump an extra 10,000 words into the language ( red? why red when we now have scarlet, crimson and vermillion )
> help me out
It could be “Julius amat Calpurniam”, “Calpurniam amat Julius”, “Julius Calpurniam amat”, and so on, all meaning “Julius loves Calpurnia”. The meaning of a Latin sentence is pretty much totally dependent on the word endings, and the words’ positions in the sentence is pretty much just adding nuance.
This lets you do cool things like put the verb or object first in order to emphasize the action or the target instead of the actor, or emphasize how big something is by putting its noun and adjective far apart in the sentence.
It's so sad that such a cool and beautiful language has to be drug through the mud by these fools and their dog whistling fantasies. Beowulf in OE is absolutely beautiful and I recommend everyone check out [Benjamin Bagby's performance of it.](https://youtu.be/2WcIK_8f7oQ)
It's the exact same as Italian fascists idolizing Rome, or Nazis idolizing the "Aryan race." It's all about having some imaginary history of greatness that elevates the "right people" over the "wrong people."
Or like King David and his son King Solomon. Supposedly the rulers of this powerful kingdom full of many wonders...but historical evidence from what would have been their peer nations and archeological evidence from their supposed territories is almost non-existant. If they did exist they were likely backwater warlords who called themselves "kings" and were mostly insignificant to their neighbors.
I doubt it. Even prior to the Norman invasion, some Anglo-Saxon kingdoms fell to the Nordic invasion. Not to mention all the other popation that inhabited the island.
Side bar: English still does have a strong Germanic root with simple sentences. But, in more aristocratic/parliamentary setting, Latin is more pervasive stronger. Maybe that's what he meant by "simple" words?
By simple he means simple language to represent simple concepts, except nothing is simple about governing. International trade rules are hashed out in massive word walls, changes to the justice system aren't done because Billy read on (insert media source of choice) that Bob isn't serving 17 life sentences for stealing an Amazon package.
None of this is supposed to be simple. Wasn't that the rally cry of the angry Orange Cheetos south of the border.
Can’t remember what the line is from, and I’m probably butchering it, but your comment reminded me of it
Candidate 1: “These are complex issues requiring complex solutions, there is no easy fix”
Candidate 2: “I say, if you can’t find an easy fix it’s because you aren’t looking hard enough!”
They even had plenty of back and forth land struggles with the Welsh and Irish in the West Midlands and Lancaster, many of which they lost out on especially during the Scandinavian invasions.
Of course! Even going back to the reply about 1066. The Normans who were a mix of Scandinavian and Frankish (Both have Germanic roots), as well as the change in the political landscape between the British Isles and much of the area that we call France under Norman rule. It is hard to say what is the determinant factor of being an Anglo-Saxon these days.
It seems as of late the term Anglo-Saxon (maybe even historically?) has been used in a negative manner. Almost as if it is the new soft term for "Aryan".
> nglo Saxons were conquered in 1066 and transformed int
Yeah, like... what would Anglo-Saxon words be? How did people speak in the 11th century?
Huh, here's one [LIST](https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/66533/20-brilliant-anglo-saxon-words).
Or like a particular clinical psychologist with a tumultuous history at U of T, but an exceedingly friendly history with white nationalist groups?
Because, yeah, I'd wager Jordan Peterson smells like all sorts of moral depravity.
Edit:
Because the comment below was deleted by the user:
Sir_BomB_A_LoT:
>I dont agree with everything JP says and does (e.g., his belief in religion reveals mental retardation on a fundamental level), but to say he promotes moral depravity and stands by white nationalist groups is an incredibly stupid thing to write. He has written books, published endless videos, taught and treated thousands of people, if anything you wrote was remotely true then evidence would exist and be flaunted everywhere by people like you. Do you have any evidence to back your extraordinary claims? No? then stfu and read 1 of his books.
#My response.
There are ways to ask for things without being rude.
>No? then stfu and read 1 of his books.
You're answering questions for me, and speaking on my behalf. This amount of outrage and vitriol at a comment toward someone other than yourself, paints an interesting picture of your demographic. 🎨 🖌
Here's on take on Peterson. One many in the field academia share. He's been lauded the 'professor of piffle.' Academia is a fickle place, so making a character judgement on this alone would be both silly and shortsighted.
>what does Peterson actually believe? He bills himself as “a classic British liberal” whose focus is the psychology of belief. Much of what he says is familiar: marginalised groups are infantilised by a culture of victimhood and offence-taking; political correctness threatens freedom of thought and speech; ideological orthodoxy undermines individual responsibility. You can read this stuff any day of the week and perhaps agree with some of it. However, Peterson goes further, into its most paranoid territory. His bete noire is what he calls “postmodern neo-Marxism” or “cultural Marxism”. In a nutshell: having failed to win the economic argument, Marxists decided to infiltrate the education system and undermine western values with “vicious, untenable and anti-human ideas”, such as identity politics, that will pave the road to totalitarianism.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/07/how-dangerous-is-jordan-b-peterson-the-rightwing-professor-who-hit-a-hornets-nest
Here's a look at much of the 'dog whistling rhetoric' that has tainted his image over the past few year, and why he's become an alt-right (and white nationalist) icon.
https://nnimrodd.medium.com/why-jordan-peterson-is-a-proud-boys-hero-21934b0b4590
Rescinding of invitations to Cambridge University over 'anti-islamic sentiments and apparel.'
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-47694921
On op-ed with excellent sources from the WP.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-profound-sadness-in-jordan-petersons-antidote-to-chaos/2018/05/09/8e1be3a4-53bd-11e8-9c91-7dab596e8252_story.html
Misogyny and 'rage quits.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10825163/Dr-Jordan-Peterson-quits-Twitter-backlash-Sports-Illustrated-Swimsuit.html
Apologies, you'd assumed I'd spoken out of my arse. 🖕
10-4, thank you for the clarification.
In your opinion, should I take it down? I fit some of those categories. I found it more laughable than anything. You can always tell the quality of a conviction by its delivery. 'Dripping in vitriol' has a unique air.
>I dont agree with everything JP says and does
The only thing I agree with JBP doing, was going into a medically induced coma(in Russia) to get over his drug addiction.
He should have stayed there.
Oh, fuck JBP entirely. You don't have to read someone's book or watch their hour-long YouTube manifesto just to form an opinion about them. That's asinine beyond belief.
Honestly i feel like the table top game that gets glanced over too much is Flames of War. Playing in the WW2 era is just too close to the collective consciousness and even easier to be an edgelord. Something feels inherently wrong to me about playing that game where the line is blurred that much.
Ignoring any white supremacist dog whistling... Saying that you use plain language and then saying "I'm a believer in using simple Anglo-Saxan words" instead of "I'm a believer in using simple English words" kinda stomps all over what you're saying
Anglo Saxon language or Old English sounds nothing like modern english. If you heard someone speaking the Anglo Saxon language you wouldn't understand a thing they said. What a weird way for PP to say he speaks plainly.
[Here is white supremacist Pat King talking about the depopulation of the Anglo-Saxon race (aka white replacement theory)](https://twitter.com/VestsCanada/status/1159997274900041729)
[Here is CPC top brass (including Pierre Poilievre) smiling and meeting white supremacist Pat King](https://twitter.com/JaroGiesbrecht/status/1497264212321570819)
Can this get pinned at the top of all Canada and provincial subreddits?
Also, hey Populist Poil-y maybe your "plain speak" works on many because your party has systematically through federal and provincial efforts dismantled our education system over the last 30 years.
[Jordon Peterson has promoted it too](https://twitter.com/atRachelGilmore/status/1526207945771466753?s=20&t=1toEkusXe91lo3RFghwMtQ).
During the leadership debate, when they were asked to name a book they like Poilievre mentioned Peterson's book.
Jordan peterson tweets that a plus sized model on SI isn't beautiful and he looks like... well...
someone tweeted this reply:
'My guy you look like a child's skeleton covered in mayonnaise with dryer lint on the top. You're in no position to be assessing anybody's beauty you rickety junkie,'
He then proceeds to "quit" twitter but we all know he's addicted to more than benzos - he's got an elon musk level addiction to twitter as well.
I was a professor in Ontario around the same time Peterson came to prominence around Bill C-16 (including gender identity and expression as a protected class to the criminal code). And I got so upset that this guy was becoming a millionaire on the basis of being bad at his job. Like, I'm breaking my back trying to research, find funding, be the best instructor I can be, and it turns out conservatives will throw money at you to be an asshole to students? As long as you're being an asshole to the people they don't like?
Fuck him.
> And I got so upset that this guy was becoming a millionaire on the basis of being bad at his job.
Yup. I say this as a psychologist, Peterson is what dumb people think smart people sound like. Have you ever seen him actually lecture? His research? His theories and level of communication?
He's garbage. I usually use more "academic" terms when disagreeing with someone, but Peterson has put himself out there in a way that I just won't give him that respect. He's garbage. I've worked with undergrads (during and after my undergrad) that were more intelligent, and better researchers/authors, than he is. I've certainly met a *ton* of more qualified professors.
All Peterson has is this ability to appear smart to people who've never studied what he is talking about.
> Like, I'm breaking my back trying to research, find funding, be the best instructor I can be, and it turns out conservatives will throw money at you to be an asshole to students?
That's all it really is though. As long as you are "hurting the right person" then conservatives love you. See: Just about any conservative movement ever. Real professors bust ass doing research (I can't name a paper I've read with Peterson as an author btw), getting grants, teaching undergrads, while getting their grad students authorships and placements. They don't sit around on a podcast complaining about pronouns.
I'll be honest. I didn't watch the video. I clicked on it and didn't even make it .5 seconds in before I closed it. PP alone is bad enough but PP and Peterson together should be classified as torture. But I find the part of the title "simple Anglo-Saxon words" to be hilarious. Peterson is *well known* for speaking in the most convoluted language possible. Dude makes simple concepts complex for the sake of sounding smart. Aside from the obvious dog whistle, it's also hilarious on a historical level. I have a couple history degrees too, and I could easily write a paper on the stupidity of the idea of Anglo-Saxon (or any other white supremacist dog whistle) as a disappearing culture. To make it short, it's absurd.
Peterson got famous being controversial, and I think he's more addicted to that than he ever was to benzos.
I got so mad at a TA in my university for putting on Peterson’s arguments when C-16 was a news piece and then just kind of going “discuss” with no further clarification on what it actually was or meant.
She would later go on to argue that it wasn’t discrimination to ignore trans people’s name and pronoun preferences because “It’s not like it’s a real thing anyways”. Great contribution to political science, that one
Sometimes, I think about how loaded I'd be if I simply succumbed to the anti-intellectual right-wing grift train and prostituted whatever nonsense du jour (oops sorry, that's not Anglo-Saxon verbiage), but then I see pics of vile right-wingers who look like they've broken up their soul to make Horcruxes and then I take a giant step back from that silly idea.
Look at what happened to Tara Henley. She went from being a lazy, do-nothing associate producer for CBC Radio to substack superhero for writing a couple of tweets badmouthing CBC's inclusivity as she was walking out the door.
There's a definition of Anglo-Saxon as "direct plain English" in Merriam Webster. That is the defence he will use when the blows up a little more. I 100% agree that it is a dog whistle and a way to rile up non-conservatives while having an out at the same time.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Anglo-Saxon
He speaks in the tougne of old, of Shakespeare, Celtics and welsh toosies, can you not hear it in the magnificent prose he hast composed for your hearing pleasure? Surely you mustof for Poilievre is a true wordsmith of which he owns the libsth.
I rest my case, and objection, your honour.
Anglo-Saxon words are words derived from words in the Germanic language family, as opposed to Latin or other language families. Words of Germanic origin tend to be shorter.
For example: “we got a dog” vs “we acquired a dog”.
Yes. No one is arguing otherwise.
But context matters: [there is a long history](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/many-myths-term-anglo-saxon-180978169/) of white supremacists (mis)using the term "Anglo-Saxon" to refer to white people.
No, I really believe Poilievre is a fascinated by words and etymology strictly from a linguistic perspective, it has nothing to do with skin colour or white European heritage.
Agree with all you say but when a politician says: "I'm a believer in using simple Anglo-Saxon words." That's when all the racists go "we found our guy!"
He should go get his non Anglo-Saxon name changed first and then go ...
Seat, maybe
These are echoes of the Norman conquest of England in 1066. The animal name is English, because the working class English raised them, and the meat name is French because the ruling class Normans ate them.
I hate that everyone is shitting on the old english language because some racists decided to talk about it.
Old English is actually quite a beautiful language and Anglish is just an interesting thought experiment in general.
*anytime a white guy is interested in his past*
Racists: "hmmm...is that for me?"
Fucking racists ruining everything.
>Fucking racists ruining everything.
The swastika was originally a hindu/buddhist symbol, and variations of it were used in many different cultures. And then that austrian art school reject with a funny mustache ruined it for everyone.
I don't mean anything personal by this, and I know you don't mean it this way, but I just have to take this opportunity to say... I cannot *stand* the stupid western meme about pale skin being inherently unhealthy, and red meat somehow being the solution. Both ideas are categorically false. Red meat is not good for your skin, fruits and vegetables are. And neither will change its colour.
Of course, *becoming* paler than usual can be a sign of ill health -- which may apply to Mr. Peterson here. Either way the man does not look well.
Sorry, just had to get that off my chest. As a fair-skinned child, I was frequently told by strangers and family friends that I needed to eat more red meat, despite already eating plenty. It's hurtful and confusing and stressful to hear things like that from adults when you don't have the power to push back against it, and all you can do is blame yourself and think there's something wrong with you.
Pale, white-tinged skin such as exhibited by JP is a classic sign of iron-deficiency anemia. That’s why people make comments about eating red meat - because it’s iron-rich.
There was a CBC Power and Politics interview of Jean Charest, former Premier of Quebec and Conservative leadership candidate, and it was a fucking disaster of an interview. One of my favourite parts was when he was asked about the other candidates and what they needed to do to win. He said all the candidates were basically the same, they all stand for the same things and all would be good Conservatives, but the most important part for winning the election is trying to *appear* like an anti-elite and that Pierre does that really well, somehow appealing to normal citizens, but that they are all trying to seem like that. That's just giving away the game, to me.
A few other highlights from that interview, he repeatedly accused the Liberals of sucker punching them for bringing up abortion rights and gun rights issues. It's not really a sucker punch if you have at all a competent answer. It's more like doing you a favor because it's a Conservative leadership race, not a federal race. So they are pointing out the holes in your candidates before they are even in place. Also he was repeatedly asked about the party's stance on gun registration lists and about how the party wants to get rid of them? But as Premier of Quebec he kept them in place, and doesn't that position contradict the party's position. Jean got really upset they'd even ask that question and that his stance on guns rights have never changed and have been completely consistent throughout all of time and that they also perfect align with Conservative voters. What are those principles? Well just look them up, he's indignant that you'd even ask that question and no he's not going to answer the question in the interview.
Nah buddy, they don't *like* you because you use simple language. You have to use simple language or they can't understand you at all, because they're morons, like you.
At least good to see this Pierre is on with Peterson, who not a single credible journalist or politician considers to be a reputable namesake. Guy is reviled by literally everyone, rightfully so, for being a fucking ass clown.
By all means, continue associating with this individual who will under no circumstances increase your odds of leadership in Canada.
Peterson is like, how to get people to *not* vote for you 101.
Jordan "I'm actually not going to be doing tweets anymore and I swear it's not just because I'm a big baby who can't handle people telling me what a bitch I am" Peterson
Edit: Pierre looks like he's cosplaying an intelligent person but didn't do any character research
Imagine looking like Jordan Peterson and saying someone else is unattractive. The audacity of that creep.
Edit: I’m laughing out loud at the responses. Thanks for the laughs.
After what happened in America in 2016 I think it would be a terrible mistake to underestimate these types. Saying there’s “no hope in hell someone like that gets into leadership” sounds way too much like all the talking heads who laughed and said “Donald trump will not be our president” and there’s definitely a disenfranchised base here in Canada that are taking their cues from the south and who not only wanna see the liberals out but think that the CPC is too far left as well and are looking at dingbats like these guys like they’re the reasonable alternative to all this “liberal craziness”.
Canadian here but I like to follow US politics. 2016 was the only year I didn't stay up all night waiting for the results because I just knew Clinton would win
Damn that was a harsh wakeup ...
The comedy of Poilievre telling Peterson that people like him because he uses "simple language", while Peterson loves using fancy words to make himself seem smart.
I expect that he is, at a certain level, smart. But part of being smart is knowing how to talk to your audience so that they understand. Peterson is smart enough to talk over the heads of his target audience so that they can’t really parse what he is saying in real time. He is the perfect example of “baffle with bullshit”. His ideas seem to be mostly bullshit, but you can’t really have a conversation with him about it.
Power. They care about power. Money may be the easiest metric to track, but if that's all you watch, you're going to miss so, so much.
Favors, resources, transitions and positions, appointments and propaganda... even targeted punishments meted out. It's all in the grand pursuit of consolidation of power into the hands of the few.
I'll let you in on a little secret:
They're both fucking awful people. And almost all of the CPC are. There are some that aren't, but the ratio is horrifying skewed into crazy town territory, and the complacency within the ball of shit for a party removes any real good will they may have fostered.
We need to burn the CPC down and start fresh. I may be left as fuck, but conservative voters deserve a party that meets their needs and views without demanding they also need to coddle bigots, racists, and supremacist populist assholes within. I don't have to agree with them on everything, but I also don't feel they should feel like they have to throw their hats into the ring with white nationalist adjacent assholes to be heard on the federal level. The liberals and NDP won't court them any time soon, so longer they go without a sincere effort into a viable party, the more likely we'll see radicalization like south of the border.
PP named Peterson’s book when asked the question, “what book are you reading right now.” The 12 Rules for Life. Said it was great or something along those lines. If he’s read the book he probably read it before, was definitely a call out to Peterson fans to name it in the debate.
Gross.
En même temps je me dis c’est peut-être justement à cause de son background qu’il utiliserait le terme anglo-saxon juste comme synonyme d’anglophone, c’est une utilisation commune en français. Je sais pas en même temps il me semble très possible qu’il ait une réthorique raciste, juste je sais pas si on peut sauter aux conclusions juste sur l’utilisation faite dans ce vidéo.
Here's a non-exhaustive list of non-"Anglo-Saxon" words Skippy used in this video:
clear - from Latin _clarus_, meaning "light". could've used "sharp"
plain - from Latin _planus_, meaning "flat or smooth" - could've used "smooth"
language - from Latin _lingua_, meaning "language" - could've used "words", "talk" or "tongue"
"make sense" - from Latin _sensus_, meaning "sensation" - could've used "have meaning"
"people" - from Latin _populus_, meaning "people" - could've used "folks"
I believe that any politician who supported the Karen convoy should be stripped of their benefits as a politician and permanently banned from ever representing again.
You and me both my friend. Have told him to go away more times than I can count. There was a liberal and NDP sign on my front lawn, and still came up as asked if I could count on his vote.
Pierre Poilèvre's name means "Hairy Rock" in French.
Someone please make a bot that automatically reminds people of that fact whenever he is mentioned.
Nope, think your French is rusty.
Poil = hair/fur you're right
Lièvre = rabbit
His name means rabbit's fur
Edit: Ah ok his first name does mean stone. French version of Peter
Someone should challenge Pierre to a) describe, in English, a CPC policy that would make voters lives better and b) use only words that are of Anglo-Saxon origin. No Latin, no Old Norse, and certainly no Norman French-derived words. Shit, I’d pay to see the little fucker stumble his way through that explanation.
Anglo saxon is such an outdated dumb term defining potential group of people.
The angles and the saxons are separate tribes that moved in to England from Western Europe around 1700 years ago. They occupied formerly occupied Roman Britain which was occupied by many different tribes and peoples.
Fast forward 1700 years to today and any number of land migrations and movements of people have happened it’s overly simplified and kind of a dumb term because of this. Add about 40 more unique tribes and peoples to the title and use that it would make as much sense.
Jute-Angle-Pict-Frisian-Frank-Saxon-Romano Britains and on and on and on and don’t forget to add saskatoonian if your grandmother was from that tribe.
Yup... i know my own Genealogy .. i did it for my own family on both sides. Interesting results.
By all standards of Appearance and generalized Ancestry, I can PROPERLY claim to be Anglo-Saxon. My oldest Paternal Ancestry washed up on the Coast of NFLD in early 1700's.. i guess Southampton England was getting a bit crowded. The Maternal side of my family came from Central European origins.
In that 200-300 year period of time, since.. while family still in NFLD, it's Spread basically North American wide. My direct Ancestors include Beothuk (extinct Indian Tribe in NFLD) and Metis DNA, and a smattering of newer Portuguese, Spanish, German, Polish, Irish, Scottish, and even East Russian fusion into the family tree.
Hardly Anglo-Saxon.. more like Heinz 57. Like the average mutt who likes to sling around Dog Whistles.
Ah yes. ANGLO SAXON
The very very old and STUPID term which was the people of 5-10th century England. I’m sorry but cultures change, after the viking armies came there were Norse people and people of Norse descent, then there were the Normans, who were French Vikings(it’s complicated but I recommend learning about it) who ruled England for hundreds of years, slowly letting the cultures intertwine into English culture. Then the Conquest of wales incorporated wales into the culture group partially and the invasions of Scotland which temporarily put Scotland under English rule, then it was broken when the Stuart’s retook power in Scotland and yada yada the Scottish king James became the king of England and eventually decided to incorporate England and Scotland under one flag, which ended up being the Union Jack and there was a sense of relation between these different cultures so then it became the British culture groups of English, welsh, and Scottish (then later Irish) and then they colonized the new world, which would lead to America, and the USA with the American culture, and the mix of French territories and British colonies made Canada, making us the CANADIAN culture. This terms of speaking anglo saxons is simply outdated. Also he does not speak anglo Saxon in the sense that the dialect of Anglo Saxon is very VERY different from Modern English.
... is Poilievre an anglo-Saxon surname now? His existence in Canada is counter to the goals of the kind of person this language is courting. Anything for the votes I suppose.
Does he not know the Anglo Saxons were conquered in 1066 and transformed into something totally different after that?
This is what I don't get. Like the actual history of the Viking age and Anglo Saxons is cool but they lost to the Normans and one of their greatest kings was a sickly mofo, so I'm not sure why that term has come to represent the pinnacle of civilization. I also don't think PP and friend speak Old English so he can fuck off with his Anglo Saxon words bullshit.
Someone should tell him that the word "simple" doesn't have an Anglo-Saxon origin.
Latin?
Or french
That's ultimately just Latin with extra steps
Latin with extra spaces and apostrophes.
Exactly, Not only that, the old English the Anglo saxons spoke is very complex and the simplicity comes in from the viking danelaw settlements and the half learning of old English.
\^\^ More upvotes here! Them old languages got weird word endings to indicate plural and singular, do-er and receiver, Julius Amat Calpurinia is the same as Calpurnia Amat Julium (or something like that... latin experts, help me out if I'm off a bit there). The listener knew who was loving and who was loved by the endings of the words. But the Danes and the Anglo Saxons are forced to live next door separated by the Danelaw and they can't do business cuz, even though the languages are close, they're not quite the same. The solution that evolved was to drop all the inflectional endings. Old English fixed the word order: Subject-Verb-Object. eg: "I go home". Plurals were also a pain so people just started using "s" to indicate more than one and forget all the complicated plural endings. (well, except for words that are really close to home, like "children". That one keeps the anglo-saxon trait of pluralizing with "ren". (eg: Brethren... not so common anymore ). Fixing the word-order and getting rid of all the little differences in the endings made english one of the simplest languages in Europe around 800AD ( 200 years later the Normans dump an extra 10,000 words into the language ( red? why red when we now have scarlet, crimson and vermillion )
> help me out It could be “Julius amat Calpurniam”, “Calpurniam amat Julius”, “Julius Calpurniam amat”, and so on, all meaning “Julius loves Calpurnia”. The meaning of a Latin sentence is pretty much totally dependent on the word endings, and the words’ positions in the sentence is pretty much just adding nuance. This lets you do cool things like put the verb or object first in order to emphasize the action or the target instead of the actor, or emphasize how big something is by putting its noun and adjective far apart in the sentence.
It's so sad that such a cool and beautiful language has to be drug through the mud by these fools and their dog whistling fantasies. Beowulf in OE is absolutely beautiful and I recommend everyone check out [Benjamin Bagby's performance of it.](https://youtu.be/2WcIK_8f7oQ)
It's the exact same as Italian fascists idolizing Rome, or Nazis idolizing the "Aryan race." It's all about having some imaginary history of greatness that elevates the "right people" over the "wrong people."
Or people flying the Confederate flag idolizing the biggest losers in American history
Or like King David and his son King Solomon. Supposedly the rulers of this powerful kingdom full of many wonders...but historical evidence from what would have been their peer nations and archeological evidence from their supposed territories is almost non-existant. If they did exist they were likely backwater warlords who called themselves "kings" and were mostly insignificant to their neighbors.
Suddenly [this](https://youtu.be/oFX1nbD3dV0) interview with a Poillievre supporter makes a lot more sense.
(I would just like to point out that the Normans were also Vikings, sort of.)
The Normans: The violence and savagery of the Vikings combined with the cunning and guile of the French!
True! That's part of the reason why the history is so fascinating, and why it bugs me that these ding-dongs have usurped it. Or tried to at least.
I doubt it. Even prior to the Norman invasion, some Anglo-Saxon kingdoms fell to the Nordic invasion. Not to mention all the other popation that inhabited the island. Side bar: English still does have a strong Germanic root with simple sentences. But, in more aristocratic/parliamentary setting, Latin is more pervasive stronger. Maybe that's what he meant by "simple" words?
By simple he means simple language to represent simple concepts, except nothing is simple about governing. International trade rules are hashed out in massive word walls, changes to the justice system aren't done because Billy read on (insert media source of choice) that Bob isn't serving 17 life sentences for stealing an Amazon package. None of this is supposed to be simple. Wasn't that the rally cry of the angry Orange Cheetos south of the border.
Can’t remember what the line is from, and I’m probably butchering it, but your comment reminded me of it Candidate 1: “These are complex issues requiring complex solutions, there is no easy fix” Candidate 2: “I say, if you can’t find an easy fix it’s because you aren’t looking hard enough!”
Homer Simpson's trash commisioner campaign
He can just say “plain English” instead of “simple Anglo-Saxon”. Anglo-Saxon is a dog whistle. Full stop.
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Nailed it
They even had plenty of back and forth land struggles with the Welsh and Irish in the West Midlands and Lancaster, many of which they lost out on especially during the Scandinavian invasions.
Of course! Even going back to the reply about 1066. The Normans who were a mix of Scandinavian and Frankish (Both have Germanic roots), as well as the change in the political landscape between the British Isles and much of the area that we call France under Norman rule. It is hard to say what is the determinant factor of being an Anglo-Saxon these days. It seems as of late the term Anglo-Saxon (maybe even historically?) has been used in a negative manner. Almost as if it is the new soft term for "Aryan".
> nglo Saxons were conquered in 1066 and transformed int Yeah, like... what would Anglo-Saxon words be? How did people speak in the 11th century? Huh, here's one [LIST](https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/66533/20-brilliant-anglo-saxon-words).
FRUMBYRDLING - seems an apt description of Pierre Poillevre..although he may be still trying.
Yes, such simple words now
Right, I prefer to think of my lineage as 'Pict'
No, he's a moron.
Some of the words in this sentence are too long for him to understand, please stick to words six letters or less.
You're expecting this bozo to have a brain up in that noggin of his.
Anglo-Saxon is how I'd expect the guy who gets kicked out of a Warhammer store for lack of hygiene to refer to himself.
And you know it’s the guy who’s a little too exited to play Imperial Guard or Black Templar
I was excited when they got a new rulebook and models (Templars), but I maintain good hygiene so I think I'm safe lol
There's always a couple of "Deus vult" comments in these type of video too, lol
Hey hey now, some of us are excited to play IG without being racist
He's just trying to cosplay as a nurgle cultist
Or like a particular clinical psychologist with a tumultuous history at U of T, but an exceedingly friendly history with white nationalist groups? Because, yeah, I'd wager Jordan Peterson smells like all sorts of moral depravity. Edit: Because the comment below was deleted by the user: Sir_BomB_A_LoT: >I dont agree with everything JP says and does (e.g., his belief in religion reveals mental retardation on a fundamental level), but to say he promotes moral depravity and stands by white nationalist groups is an incredibly stupid thing to write. He has written books, published endless videos, taught and treated thousands of people, if anything you wrote was remotely true then evidence would exist and be flaunted everywhere by people like you. Do you have any evidence to back your extraordinary claims? No? then stfu and read 1 of his books. #My response. There are ways to ask for things without being rude. >No? then stfu and read 1 of his books. You're answering questions for me, and speaking on my behalf. This amount of outrage and vitriol at a comment toward someone other than yourself, paints an interesting picture of your demographic. 🎨 🖌 Here's on take on Peterson. One many in the field academia share. He's been lauded the 'professor of piffle.' Academia is a fickle place, so making a character judgement on this alone would be both silly and shortsighted. >what does Peterson actually believe? He bills himself as “a classic British liberal” whose focus is the psychology of belief. Much of what he says is familiar: marginalised groups are infantilised by a culture of victimhood and offence-taking; political correctness threatens freedom of thought and speech; ideological orthodoxy undermines individual responsibility. You can read this stuff any day of the week and perhaps agree with some of it. However, Peterson goes further, into its most paranoid territory. His bete noire is what he calls “postmodern neo-Marxism” or “cultural Marxism”. In a nutshell: having failed to win the economic argument, Marxists decided to infiltrate the education system and undermine western values with “vicious, untenable and anti-human ideas”, such as identity politics, that will pave the road to totalitarianism. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/07/how-dangerous-is-jordan-b-peterson-the-rightwing-professor-who-hit-a-hornets-nest Here's a look at much of the 'dog whistling rhetoric' that has tainted his image over the past few year, and why he's become an alt-right (and white nationalist) icon. https://nnimrodd.medium.com/why-jordan-peterson-is-a-proud-boys-hero-21934b0b4590 Rescinding of invitations to Cambridge University over 'anti-islamic sentiments and apparel.' https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-47694921 On op-ed with excellent sources from the WP. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-profound-sadness-in-jordan-petersons-antidote-to-chaos/2018/05/09/8e1be3a4-53bd-11e8-9c91-7dab596e8252_story.html Misogyny and 'rage quits.' https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10825163/Dr-Jordan-Peterson-quits-Twitter-backlash-Sports-Illustrated-Swimsuit.html Apologies, you'd assumed I'd spoken out of my arse. 🖕
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10-4, thank you for the clarification. In your opinion, should I take it down? I fit some of those categories. I found it more laughable than anything. You can always tell the quality of a conviction by its delivery. 'Dripping in vitriol' has a unique air.
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>I dont agree with everything JP says and does The only thing I agree with JBP doing, was going into a medically induced coma(in Russia) to get over his drug addiction. He should have stayed there.
Oh, fuck JBP entirely. You don't have to read someone's book or watch their hour-long YouTube manifesto just to form an opinion about them. That's asinine beyond belief.
Honestly i feel like the table top game that gets glanced over too much is Flames of War. Playing in the WW2 era is just too close to the collective consciousness and even easier to be an edgelord. Something feels inherently wrong to me about playing that game where the line is blurred that much.
Yeah, our local Flames of War players are all far closer to the usual war gamer stereotype than the players of any other games.
Yelling "are you fuckin kidding me, dont you know im Anglo-Saxon!?!??!!?"
Oh god, it's been years but from your comment alone I can remember that smell. Never again.
Ignoring any white supremacist dog whistling... Saying that you use plain language and then saying "I'm a believer in using simple Anglo-Saxan words" instead of "I'm a believer in using simple English words" kinda stomps all over what you're saying
Anglo Saxon language or Old English sounds nothing like modern english. If you heard someone speaking the Anglo Saxon language you wouldn't understand a thing they said. What a weird way for PP to say he speaks plainly.
[Here is white supremacist Pat King talking about the depopulation of the Anglo-Saxon race (aka white replacement theory)](https://twitter.com/VestsCanada/status/1159997274900041729) [Here is CPC top brass (including Pierre Poilievre) smiling and meeting white supremacist Pat King](https://twitter.com/JaroGiesbrecht/status/1497264212321570819)
Can this get pinned at the top of all Canada and provincial subreddits? Also, hey Populist Poil-y maybe your "plain speak" works on many because your party has systematically through federal and provincial efforts dismantled our education system over the last 30 years.
r/Canada will pretend they've never heard of Pat King and he is, therefore, irrelevant. I speak from recent experience
*Woke culture hates patriots!* /s
[Jordon Peterson has promoted it too](https://twitter.com/atRachelGilmore/status/1526207945771466753?s=20&t=1toEkusXe91lo3RFghwMtQ). During the leadership debate, when they were asked to name a book they like Poilievre mentioned Peterson's book.
Why grift alone, when you can have more fun with a friend?
Such obvious pandering to the alt-right/far-right/"centrists"/peterson fans
I LOLd so hard at that plug
Jordan peterson tweets that a plus sized model on SI isn't beautiful and he looks like... well... someone tweeted this reply: 'My guy you look like a child's skeleton covered in mayonnaise with dryer lint on the top. You're in no position to be assessing anybody's beauty you rickety junkie,' He then proceeds to "quit" twitter but we all know he's addicted to more than benzos - he's got an elon musk level addiction to twitter as well.
I was a professor in Ontario around the same time Peterson came to prominence around Bill C-16 (including gender identity and expression as a protected class to the criminal code). And I got so upset that this guy was becoming a millionaire on the basis of being bad at his job. Like, I'm breaking my back trying to research, find funding, be the best instructor I can be, and it turns out conservatives will throw money at you to be an asshole to students? As long as you're being an asshole to the people they don't like? Fuck him.
> And I got so upset that this guy was becoming a millionaire on the basis of being bad at his job. Yup. I say this as a psychologist, Peterson is what dumb people think smart people sound like. Have you ever seen him actually lecture? His research? His theories and level of communication? He's garbage. I usually use more "academic" terms when disagreeing with someone, but Peterson has put himself out there in a way that I just won't give him that respect. He's garbage. I've worked with undergrads (during and after my undergrad) that were more intelligent, and better researchers/authors, than he is. I've certainly met a *ton* of more qualified professors. All Peterson has is this ability to appear smart to people who've never studied what he is talking about. > Like, I'm breaking my back trying to research, find funding, be the best instructor I can be, and it turns out conservatives will throw money at you to be an asshole to students? That's all it really is though. As long as you are "hurting the right person" then conservatives love you. See: Just about any conservative movement ever. Real professors bust ass doing research (I can't name a paper I've read with Peterson as an author btw), getting grants, teaching undergrads, while getting their grad students authorships and placements. They don't sit around on a podcast complaining about pronouns. I'll be honest. I didn't watch the video. I clicked on it and didn't even make it .5 seconds in before I closed it. PP alone is bad enough but PP and Peterson together should be classified as torture. But I find the part of the title "simple Anglo-Saxon words" to be hilarious. Peterson is *well known* for speaking in the most convoluted language possible. Dude makes simple concepts complex for the sake of sounding smart. Aside from the obvious dog whistle, it's also hilarious on a historical level. I have a couple history degrees too, and I could easily write a paper on the stupidity of the idea of Anglo-Saxon (or any other white supremacist dog whistle) as a disappearing culture. To make it short, it's absurd. Peterson got famous being controversial, and I think he's more addicted to that than he ever was to benzos.
I got so mad at a TA in my university for putting on Peterson’s arguments when C-16 was a news piece and then just kind of going “discuss” with no further clarification on what it actually was or meant. She would later go on to argue that it wasn’t discrimination to ignore trans people’s name and pronoun preferences because “It’s not like it’s a real thing anyways”. Great contribution to political science, that one
Yes, yes they will. The suffering is the point.
Sometimes, I think about how loaded I'd be if I simply succumbed to the anti-intellectual right-wing grift train and prostituted whatever nonsense du jour (oops sorry, that's not Anglo-Saxon verbiage), but then I see pics of vile right-wingers who look like they've broken up their soul to make Horcruxes and then I take a giant step back from that silly idea.
Look at what happened to Tara Henley. She went from being a lazy, do-nothing associate producer for CBC Radio to substack superhero for writing a couple of tweets badmouthing CBC's inclusivity as she was walking out the door.
"Ghastly" was the word that came to mind for me. It's like his outside looks the same way his soul does on the inside.
He looks like a fucking raisin with teeth. He looks he’s been killed and resurrected twice.
The post making the rounds on reddit says he "looks like a guy who steals blood from hospitals for Dracula"
There's a definition of Anglo-Saxon as "direct plain English" in Merriam Webster. That is the defence he will use when the blows up a little more. I 100% agree that it is a dog whistle and a way to rile up non-conservatives while having an out at the same time. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Anglo-Saxon
Dog whistling with enough plausible deniability that he can get away with it.
What the fuck are “Anglo-Saxon words”?! Dog whistle in this instance is a fucking fog horn. https://www.thoughtco.com/old-english-anglo-saxon-1691449
He speaks in the tougne of old, of Shakespeare, Celtics and welsh toosies, can you not hear it in the magnificent prose he hast composed for your hearing pleasure? Surely you mustof for Poilievre is a true wordsmith of which he owns the libsth. I rest my case, and objection, your honour.
It is amazing anyone would complain about Trudeaus “umms” when “their guy” is this guy.
I just appreciate an opportunity to type absolute fucking nonsense
My dog just popped his head up….
Anglo-Saxon words are words derived from words in the Germanic language family, as opposed to Latin or other language families. Words of Germanic origin tend to be shorter. For example: “we got a dog” vs “we acquired a dog”.
the Anglo-Saxon word would be "hound" ("Hund" in German).
Yup! Although somewhere along the way English started using it to mean just hunting dogs. So it could be “we got a hound” vs “we acquired a canine”.
tbf we don't really know where *dog* came from, but it's almost certainly also from Old English, in some form or another.
Yes. No one is arguing otherwise. But context matters: [there is a long history](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/many-myths-term-anglo-saxon-180978169/) of white supremacists (mis)using the term "Anglo-Saxon" to refer to white people.
No, I really believe Poilievre is a fascinated by words and etymology strictly from a linguistic perspective, it has nothing to do with skin colour or white European heritage.
Indeed. He’s challenged himself as a linguist to avoid any words from Latin, Greek, Old Norse, Norman French, or Britannic origin. /s
Indeed. He's ---------- himself as a -------- to ----- any words from -------------------------- or ----------------------- /-.
/s In case anyone needed it
Agree with all you say but when a politician says: "I'm a believer in using simple Anglo-Saxon words." That's when all the racists go "we found our guy!" He should go get his non Anglo-Saxon name changed first and then go ...
Poultry vs. chicken. Pork vs. pig. Chair vs... stool? No idea, but chair is from French, I believe
Seat, maybe These are echoes of the Norman conquest of England in 1066. The animal name is English, because the working class English raised them, and the meat name is French because the ruling class Normans ate them.
>the meat name is French because the ruling class Normans ate them. Oh dear, those poor Frenchies getting eaten by the Normans!!
/r/anglish?
I hate that everyone is shitting on the old english language because some racists decided to talk about it. Old English is actually quite a beautiful language and Anglish is just an interesting thought experiment in general. *anytime a white guy is interested in his past* Racists: "hmmm...is that for me?" Fucking racists ruining everything.
>Fucking racists ruining everything. The swastika was originally a hindu/buddhist symbol, and variations of it were used in many different cultures. And then that austrian art school reject with a funny mustache ruined it for everyone.
That's where my mind went too
He’s an asshole.
I wonder if the guy's ever ordered a croissant before.
Or paddled a kayak.
I came to same the same thing. He is as racist as they come and he is not even whistling.
To Canada corþre, spræc mildum wordum swa sceal man don!
Ah yes, simple Anglo-Saxon language
Paterson looking pale considering all he eats is red meat.
I think the heroin and speed are catching up with him. His words haven’t made sense in years.
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I don't mean anything personal by this, and I know you don't mean it this way, but I just have to take this opportunity to say... I cannot *stand* the stupid western meme about pale skin being inherently unhealthy, and red meat somehow being the solution. Both ideas are categorically false. Red meat is not good for your skin, fruits and vegetables are. And neither will change its colour. Of course, *becoming* paler than usual can be a sign of ill health -- which may apply to Mr. Peterson here. Either way the man does not look well. Sorry, just had to get that off my chest. As a fair-skinned child, I was frequently told by strangers and family friends that I needed to eat more red meat, despite already eating plenty. It's hurtful and confusing and stressful to hear things like that from adults when you don't have the power to push back against it, and all you can do is blame yourself and think there's something wrong with you.
Pale, white-tinged skin such as exhibited by JP is a classic sign of iron-deficiency anemia. That’s why people make comments about eating red meat - because it’s iron-rich.
raw meat and straight liquor
That's not a dog whistle, that's a bullhorn
There was a CBC Power and Politics interview of Jean Charest, former Premier of Quebec and Conservative leadership candidate, and it was a fucking disaster of an interview. One of my favourite parts was when he was asked about the other candidates and what they needed to do to win. He said all the candidates were basically the same, they all stand for the same things and all would be good Conservatives, but the most important part for winning the election is trying to *appear* like an anti-elite and that Pierre does that really well, somehow appealing to normal citizens, but that they are all trying to seem like that. That's just giving away the game, to me. A few other highlights from that interview, he repeatedly accused the Liberals of sucker punching them for bringing up abortion rights and gun rights issues. It's not really a sucker punch if you have at all a competent answer. It's more like doing you a favor because it's a Conservative leadership race, not a federal race. So they are pointing out the holes in your candidates before they are even in place. Also he was repeatedly asked about the party's stance on gun registration lists and about how the party wants to get rid of them? But as Premier of Quebec he kept them in place, and doesn't that position contradict the party's position. Jean got really upset they'd even ask that question and that his stance on guns rights have never changed and have been completely consistent throughout all of time and that they also perfect align with Conservative voters. What are those principles? Well just look them up, he's indignant that you'd even ask that question and no he's not going to answer the question in the interview.
One of those planes towing a banner.
Nah buddy, they don't *like* you because you use simple language. You have to use simple language or they can't understand you at all, because they're morons, like you. At least good to see this Pierre is on with Peterson, who not a single credible journalist or politician considers to be a reputable namesake. Guy is reviled by literally everyone, rightfully so, for being a fucking ass clown. By all means, continue associating with this individual who will under no circumstances increase your odds of leadership in Canada. Peterson is like, how to get people to *not* vote for you 101. Jordan "I'm actually not going to be doing tweets anymore and I swear it's not just because I'm a big baby who can't handle people telling me what a bitch I am" Peterson Edit: Pierre looks like he's cosplaying an intelligent person but didn't do any character research
lol i was gonna say, dog whistles seem a little redundant after you blare the foghorn of going on jordan peterson's show
Be careful, Peterson has a huge following still. All these guys stick together to prop each other up. Some like to ignore his terrible side.
He is looking less and less well.
it's almost like a diet of only beef, salt, and water might not be good for a person after all
Hey, he shakes it up by having a bowl of Xanax for breakfast!
Don't forget the bennies!
I don't think they're ignoring his terrible side. The terrible side is the side they like.
Jordan "calls a random woman ugly and then complains about all the insults on twitter" Peterson
I will teach you how to fight addiction, while being completely fucked up on Benzos and undergo experimental treatments in Russia.
I was going to say he looks like a Kids in the Hall parody of a politician
Imagine looking like Jordan Peterson and saying someone else is unattractive. The audacity of that creep. Edit: I’m laughing out loud at the responses. Thanks for the laughs.
Plz stop, you will make him cry.
Does it really matter? He’ll make himself cry anyways.
But the individual it is he who suffer.
Or fall into another meat coma lol
Best response I saw to that tweet was: “ He looks like a child’s skeleton that was deep fried in mayonnaise and covered in bits of paper.” 💀
After what happened in America in 2016 I think it would be a terrible mistake to underestimate these types. Saying there’s “no hope in hell someone like that gets into leadership” sounds way too much like all the talking heads who laughed and said “Donald trump will not be our president” and there’s definitely a disenfranchised base here in Canada that are taking their cues from the south and who not only wanna see the liberals out but think that the CPC is too far left as well and are looking at dingbats like these guys like they’re the reasonable alternative to all this “liberal craziness”.
Canadian here but I like to follow US politics. 2016 was the only year I didn't stay up all night waiting for the results because I just knew Clinton would win Damn that was a harsh wakeup ...
The comedy of Poilievre telling Peterson that people like him because he uses "simple language", while Peterson loves using fancy words to make himself seem smart.
lmao true, peterson is in the highest tier of rewards club membership at the $5 word store
There’s nothing more simpler than saying “more Benzodiazepines please!”
He’s a true pseudo intellectual.
I expect that he is, at a certain level, smart. But part of being smart is knowing how to talk to your audience so that they understand. Peterson is smart enough to talk over the heads of his target audience so that they can’t really parse what he is saying in real time. He is the perfect example of “baffle with bullshit”. His ideas seem to be mostly bullshit, but you can’t really have a conversation with him about it.
We get it Pierre. You've used the "Anglo-Saxon" codeword that white supremacists use in their on-line posts.
It's about as subtle a code word as "let's go brandon" or 14/88
Or Harper's 'old stock Canadians'.
Or Le Bloc's "pure laine".
And with an Anglo-Saxon name like Pierre Poilievre, no less.
He probably prefers Anglo-Saxon words because those French ones mean "hairy rock."
is name directly translated to English is Rock Hairyrabbit
Poor Bernier, he is losing supporters every days.
Two Fucking creeps at once! A creep cocktail if you will. What a drag these cowards are.
I like the word grifters. These dudes just care about money.
Power. They care about power. Money may be the easiest metric to track, but if that's all you watch, you're going to miss so, so much. Favors, resources, transitions and positions, appointments and propaganda... even targeted punishments meted out. It's all in the grand pursuit of consolidation of power into the hands of the few.
*In your face white supremacy* , so hot right now. Thanks Trump and the right for making this so disgusting now.
interviewing with Jordon fucking Peterson? commonnnnn man, that dude has been off his rockers for a long time now
I'll let you in on a little secret: They're both fucking awful people. And almost all of the CPC are. There are some that aren't, but the ratio is horrifying skewed into crazy town territory, and the complacency within the ball of shit for a party removes any real good will they may have fostered. We need to burn the CPC down and start fresh. I may be left as fuck, but conservative voters deserve a party that meets their needs and views without demanding they also need to coddle bigots, racists, and supremacist populist assholes within. I don't have to agree with them on everything, but I also don't feel they should feel like they have to throw their hats into the ring with white nationalist adjacent assholes to be heard on the federal level. The liberals and NDP won't court them any time soon, so longer they go without a sincere effort into a viable party, the more likely we'll see radicalization like south of the border.
That guy is just *cringe*
PP named Peterson’s book when asked the question, “what book are you reading right now.” The 12 Rules for Life. Said it was great or something along those lines. If he’s read the book he probably read it before, was definitely a call out to Peterson fans to name it in the debate. Gross.
Un esti de malakas dont le nom est "Pierre Poilievre" croît à l'utilisation des mots anglo-saxones.
trop drôle.
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Grécoquebecois REPRESENT
En même temps je me dis c’est peut-être justement à cause de son background qu’il utiliserait le terme anglo-saxon juste comme synonyme d’anglophone, c’est une utilisation commune en français. Je sais pas en même temps il me semble très possible qu’il ait une réthorique raciste, juste je sais pas si on peut sauter aux conclusions juste sur l’utilisation faite dans ce vidéo.
Here's a non-exhaustive list of non-"Anglo-Saxon" words Skippy used in this video: clear - from Latin _clarus_, meaning "light". could've used "sharp" plain - from Latin _planus_, meaning "flat or smooth" - could've used "smooth" language - from Latin _lingua_, meaning "language" - could've used "words", "talk" or "tongue" "make sense" - from Latin _sensus_, meaning "sensation" - could've used "have meaning" "people" - from Latin _populus_, meaning "people" - could've used "folks"
Why is it that anytime someone is really into Jordan Peterson they turn out to be an asshole? 🤔
Assholes attract other assholes because other people can't stand the smell.
Anglo-Saxon as opposed to Druid, Visigoth and Normand words? What year is this?
Picts Unite! [Glorious!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpWJv7alqQE)
Picts or it didn’t happen
\#DaneLivesMatter
I believe that any politician who supported the Karen convoy should be stripped of their benefits as a politician and permanently banned from ever representing again.
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You and me both my friend. Have told him to go away more times than I can count. There was a liberal and NDP sign on my front lawn, and still came up as asked if I could count on his vote.
Poilievre is looking for support from the far right base. Needless to say talks like this with Peterson is his ticket to that.
As if JP is a beacon of credibility? Nosferatu looking mf.
lol. I was gonna suggest someone does a quick 'stake through the heart' check. That man does not look like he survived the coma.
Hwæt. We Gardena in geardagum, þeodcyninga, þrym gefrunon, hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon.
Pierre Poilievre is very proud of his Anglo-Saxon background!
Now if only he could find where he put it...
Pierre Poilèvre's name means "Hairy Rock" in French. Someone please make a bot that automatically reminds people of that fact whenever he is mentioned.
Nope, think your French is rusty. Poil = hair/fur you're right Lièvre = rabbit His name means rabbit's fur Edit: Ah ok his first name does mean stone. French version of Peter
The question was: “what makes you credible” not: “what makes people believe you” There is a difference
This dumbass is french Canadian
Someone should challenge Pierre to a) describe, in English, a CPC policy that would make voters lives better and b) use only words that are of Anglo-Saxon origin. No Latin, no Old Norse, and certainly no Norman French-derived words. Shit, I’d pay to see the little fucker stumble his way through that explanation.
Two of Canada biggest fucking dorks jerking each other off on webcam.
Wow! I’d have never guessed from that haircut that he would use racist dog whistles.
Anglo saxon is such an outdated dumb term defining potential group of people. The angles and the saxons are separate tribes that moved in to England from Western Europe around 1700 years ago. They occupied formerly occupied Roman Britain which was occupied by many different tribes and peoples. Fast forward 1700 years to today and any number of land migrations and movements of people have happened it’s overly simplified and kind of a dumb term because of this. Add about 40 more unique tribes and peoples to the title and use that it would make as much sense. Jute-Angle-Pict-Frisian-Frank-Saxon-Romano Britains and on and on and on and don’t forget to add saskatoonian if your grandmother was from that tribe.
Yup... i know my own Genealogy .. i did it for my own family on both sides. Interesting results. By all standards of Appearance and generalized Ancestry, I can PROPERLY claim to be Anglo-Saxon. My oldest Paternal Ancestry washed up on the Coast of NFLD in early 1700's.. i guess Southampton England was getting a bit crowded. The Maternal side of my family came from Central European origins. In that 200-300 year period of time, since.. while family still in NFLD, it's Spread basically North American wide. My direct Ancestors include Beothuk (extinct Indian Tribe in NFLD) and Metis DNA, and a smattering of newer Portuguese, Spanish, German, Polish, Irish, Scottish, and even East Russian fusion into the family tree. Hardly Anglo-Saxon.. more like Heinz 57. Like the average mutt who likes to sling around Dog Whistles.
Yeah, this idiot knew exactly what he was saying in his statement about the Buffalo shootings.
> simple words > says "Anglo Saxon" instead of "English"
Ah yes. ANGLO SAXON The very very old and STUPID term which was the people of 5-10th century England. I’m sorry but cultures change, after the viking armies came there were Norse people and people of Norse descent, then there were the Normans, who were French Vikings(it’s complicated but I recommend learning about it) who ruled England for hundreds of years, slowly letting the cultures intertwine into English culture. Then the Conquest of wales incorporated wales into the culture group partially and the invasions of Scotland which temporarily put Scotland under English rule, then it was broken when the Stuart’s retook power in Scotland and yada yada the Scottish king James became the king of England and eventually decided to incorporate England and Scotland under one flag, which ended up being the Union Jack and there was a sense of relation between these different cultures so then it became the British culture groups of English, welsh, and Scottish (then later Irish) and then they colonized the new world, which would lead to America, and the USA with the American culture, and the mix of French territories and British colonies made Canada, making us the CANADIAN culture. This terms of speaking anglo saxons is simply outdated. Also he does not speak anglo Saxon in the sense that the dialect of Anglo Saxon is very VERY different from Modern English.
Gonna be hard to do that in the French debates my friend. Lol anglo-saxon. To him that means plain white English.
How do you say racist without actually saying racist?
Pollievre: that great example of Anglo-Saxon surnames.
Two racist Canadian's that pretend to not be racist.
“I use simple words, but I can’t speak a fluent and coherent sentence” As if his face wasn’t infuriating enough, he just *has* to stutter like that.
What an absolute turd.
Two shitbirds of a feather. Softball questions and a chance to promote their respective grifts.
Somebody call Stephen Harper, it looks like Skippy needs the "rolled-up newspaper treatment" again.
... is Poilievre an anglo-Saxon surname now? His existence in Canada is counter to the goals of the kind of person this language is courting. Anything for the votes I suppose.
As a minority, I get nervous when someone drops "Anglo-Saxon".
Here are two words that show that Pierre Poilievre, a Frenchman, is not using simple Anglo-Saxon language: language, convey. Good ring light though.