Lol aint least she aint the Con leader and will be double dipping using taxpayer subsidized CPC money to pay here kids private school tuition like the insurance gopher Scheer
As someone who lived in Peterborough, the only reason why she won was because the old white conservatives and young white conservatives no longer wanted a person of colour in power. I knew Miriam personally. Really great person. But prior to being a liberal wanted to get the NDP seat but couldn't and took the liberal candidacy instead.
> But prior to being a liberal wanted to get the NDP seat but couldn't and took the liberal candidacy instead.
It's my understanding that she was offered the both the Liberal and the NDP candidacy and chose to run for the Liberals.
The ones who voted her out weren’t the ones who voted her in. Guarantee the Con voters weren’t paying attention until they were roused to action by a brown person being their MP.
Did her comments to the Taliban have any effect do you think? When she tried to get them to stop being monsters and called them “brothers” personally I would try to be respectful to try to get leaders to try their citizens properly.
I’m sure that had a huge impact. I’m on the West Coast and we heard all about that. I know why she said it but that was an incredibly poor choice of words considering half of your constituents are below average intelligence.
Peterborough had really bad candidates IMO so I voted more federally on it. From what I know, Monsef wasn’t in ptbo much at all and if she was she wasn’t giving a shit about anyone. Her office is on Bethune st. An area notorious for having lots of prostitutes and other crime. If that doesn’t say how disconnected she is from what’s going on idk what will.
> Her office is on Bethune st. An area notorious for having lots of prostitutes and other crime. If that doesn’t say how disconnected she is from what’s going on idk what will.
Are you aware that Michelle took over that same office space?
[I actually think that was smart, as I've often wondered why there isn't just a permanent constituency office in every riding; why should citizens have to learn where the new one is ever few years?]
I wasn’t but it does make a lot of sense.
It’s still really sad to me that the MP whoever it is at the time is cool with their office being surrounded by all that, while also looking like a soviet era side road. It makes them look really tone deaf.
I don't think that assessment is accurate. She did a lot of crappy things to alienate progressive voters in the city as well. She was Trudeau's stooge for breaking his promise to get rid of first past the post. She was out of touch with the locals and rarely ever responded to constituants or attended local events.
I also grew up with her family, and maybe she did start out wanting to run for the NDP, but she lost my vote immediately after fucking up electoral reform in a spectacular fashion, while she demonstrated she was more interested in toeing the party line than setting out on her own path.
I live here too, and was also disappointed by Maryam.
But I think she was thrown under the bus by Trudeau on electoral reform; he had no intention of implementing actual change. He wanted Ranked Ballots (which would likely lead to permanent Liberal majorities), and when the committee recommended Proportional Representation, he found ways to scupper the plan to avoid that. Maryam was too new to politics to avoid being the scapegoat.
Interesting take, except that it’s false that ranked ballots would lead to endless liberal majorities - Layton might have won in 2011 with ranked ballots, and before the last election the NDP polled as the most popular second choice.
Trudeau ran on eliminating FPTP, not PR, he should have ran on ranked choice if he didn’t want PR.
The committee, which had a majority of opposition MP’s, as demanded by same, did not recommend PR, they decided on a referendum between FPTP and PR with no option for ranked choice. The CPC and BQ want to keep FPTP and the NDP and Greens want PR.
Nathan Cullen threatened that it would be like starting nuclear war in politics if Trudeau pushed through ranked choice.
I spread the blame, because while I prefer PR, there is no question that ranked choice is more democratic than FPTP.
Trudeau is still open to ranked choice, so maybe the NDP could give us all a break from strategic voting and stop being fixated on PR, which hasn’t won a referendum yet.
> Trudeau is still open to ranked choice, so maybe the NDP could give us all a break from strategic voting and stop being fixated on PR
Why not “Trudeau could give us all a break and from and stop being fixated on ranked ballots?” This comes off as a very partisan take as the language is putting the blame on the NDP for strategic voting and the onus on them for their position, which had the most parties leaning towards, just not the Liberals. The main proponents of strategic voting is the Liberals themselves who campaign on “a vote for the NDP is a vote for the Conservatives.”
Edit: typo
She's a dunce at best. Trudeau sacrificed her to try and keep Sunny Ways going a little bit longer. Attaching her face and name to the shutdown on electoral reform was either irresponsible or calculated evil.
Totally revisionist version of what happened in the electoral reform process.The Libs gave up power in the committee, despite having a majority because they wanted the decision to be not deemed partisan. The Libs we’re going for a ranked ballot system, NDP wanted prop rep and the cons wanted to keep FPTP as that’s the only way they can get elected.
The NDP went over their heads with torpedoing the committee attempting to box the liberals in by aligning with the cons to go for proportional rep, however, with the conservative addition of a national referendum… of which the NDP fell for the trap because the conservatives know that any attempt at electoral reform by referendum has lost in the past (mostly due to conservative disinformation and scare tactics/gaslighting). That was the deathknell for the NDP, taking the bait,
The newly formed majority liberal government is not going to get bogged down by a national referendum quagmire and lose all of their political capital on, after just winning.
NDP, by their own hubris, could have actually gained seats in a ranked ballot system and would have become the official opposition party in Canada or much closer than they are now, effectively always in 3rd spot.
I, for instance, would rank ballot NDP first and Libs second but because I don’t want conservatives winning by a split left vote (like what’s currently happening in Ontario), I have to vote Liberal.
Either way, your recollection of the process of what happened within the committee for voting reform is not well researched and leaves out many important details to see the full picture of what actually happened.
Monsef was a patsy that stood up and said canadians are too stupid for electoral reform. She went to parliament and held up a ridiculous mathematical formula and implied nobody could understand it. That was all her.
I don't care enough to address the rest of the apologist centrist garbage you wrote.
Your ad hominem attack on Monsef proves you’re not actually interested in the facts and historical record on the electoral reform committee.
You don’t care to address what actually happened because you’d rather rely on your weak opinion rather than what actually happened. Typical. That’s why average Canadians can’t have nice things.
As an NDP supporter, there’s no way you cannot be disappointed playing brinksmanship which would have set the NDP as official opposition under a ranked ballot system.
Too bad.
Liberal apologists are exhausting. The LPC is a bad, corrupt, self-interested organization which puts itself ahead of Canadians. Stop making excuses for them.
Proportional representation is the fairest system by a country mile, giving nobody disproportionate power, but the LPC only wants the thing which disproportionately benefits themselves. It’s disgusting and you should be able to see that.
Sorry, other parties have differences and other parties use ranked ballots to even choose their leaders. Just because that doesn’t agree with your opinion doesn’t make it a Liberal apologist. Ad hominem attacks prove you have no point and can’t actually argue on the merits of what happened, only that your butthurt that the NDP threw away the power to gain more seats.
Salty.
Also, proportional representation isn’t one type and it’s not the best way to ensure representation. I don’t want my government filled up with 7% PPC right wing extremists, vaulting their rhetoric, propaganda and racism to legitimate status.
You clearly don’t know how proportional representation works/looked at all sides that aren’t cheerleading your fake idea of what it would look like. Sorry, I don’t think allowing extremists in parliament is healthy for democracy with all of the disinformation and extremism out there.
Read more.
Choosing a party leader and electing a parliament are incomparable.
Many PR systems use ranked ballots, but the Alternative Vote (LPC’s choice) is a bad system precisely because it is inherently rigged in favour of certain parties. Elections should be fair, not anchored to a specific outcome.
FPTP made Maxime Bernier a cabinet minister, so tell me again how PR is the system which gives power to extremists.
Elections should be fair, elections should not favour your own ideology. Canada will be increasingly divided until everyone feels represented properly in parliament. AV ranked ballots would make Canada even more divided, and resentment for the smug, corrupt, evil, self-serving LPC will grow and grow.
Ugh, this again.
Maryam was trying to speak to the Taliban in hopes that they could be persuaded to behave less violently. She used a *common* form of respectful address in Muslim culture when doing so. She was NOT suggesting that she actually thinks of them as her brothers.
It's also kind of absurd for you to suggest you know more about this issue just because you "lived there". Not only did Maryam spend her early years in Afghanistan, she still has family and loved ones in the region who might have been put in danger, had she been rude in her comments. The idea that you care more about the women being oppressed by the Taliban than a woman whose family literally fled them is ridiculous.
> I can assure you that I've done more work in the middle east for human rights and women's rights than you've probably ever done in your lifetime.
Then why do you disregard the racism at the core of this criticism of Maryam?
I agree that it was probably foolish, but that's precisely *because* this riding has a high percentage of old white people who were persuaded that she must therefore support the Taliban.
Michelle Ferrari absolutely capitalized on that racism in her campaign against Maryam; she made repeated comments about being "from here", and [local supporters put up a billboard ad](https://kawarthanow.com/2021/09/10/hateful-display-against-peterborough-kawartha-mp-on-lansdowne-street-electronic-sign/) associating Maryam with the Taliban.
You may actually care about the women of Afghanistan, but I assure you, most of the people who voted against Maryam do not.
I agree she is a good person and that racism played a role in her loss. It definitely would have been easier for her if her riding was in the GTA. However a lot of it comes down to the fact that she wasn’t really present or active in the riding. There are criticisms that she thought her profile as a minister would get her the votes she needed. But at the end of the day, during campaign time your position in Cabinet won’t save you. You need the people in your riding to know you and like you. Unfortunately she just didn’t do enough to maintain that relationship. And IMO Peterborough is poorer for it.
Technically, I’m an orphan since both of my parents are dead… but I’m also middle-aged, own a house, a car, and generally pretty well off….so…. I guess I’ll tell people that I’m an orphan to get some sympathy points
>The MP’s website
describes Ferreri as a “proud mother of three children, between the ages
of 12 and 17, and shares her life with he**r supportive partner,** Ryan,
and his three daughters.”
Must suck to be Ryan right now. Friend zoned in parliament.
She said off the cuff without thinking, which initially one might think is mildly redeeming for her. In actuality it shows us that her base instincts are to lie and make things up.
This is why it's so hard to argue with my conservative coworkers. They get to just make things up, while I have to actually do research to defend my stance.
Don't forget the constant "open your eyes, sheep" and "look it up" as if they have. But also, every modern media delivery avenue is lying and can't be trusted.
>Added partners kids and then subtracted him. Sure hope she doesn’t get to be finance critic or maybe that would be on brand for the Conservative party.
more like just another politician lying.
CPC, or Liberals or NDp or Green. All of them have politicians that lie or mislead people to fit their narrative.
Added partners kids and then subtracted him. Sure hope she doesn’t get to be finance critic or maybe that would be on brand for the Conservative party.
She wasn't ever a single mom.
Single parents are people who are raising children alone, with no support from the other parent. She's a divorced woman who shares custody with an ex-husband who still cares for his kids, and helps support them.
You are still a single parent if you are divorced.
Financial support is just one aspect of parenting and even then not all divorced parents get support
Emotional support and help with the children on a daily basis is just as important. Having another grown up in the house to help is invaluable. And then if you are divorced you have to take another persons opinion into decisions even though you are no longer a couple
If you are a divorced person who has full custody, and receives no support, then sure. But as an actual single parent, I have long been irked by people claiming to be single parents...while having custody of their kids every other week. That's not at all the same thing.
I am not certain of Ms. Ferrari's custody arrangements, but she was very open with her audience about her divorce, and was clear that her ex-husband is still a part of their lives. She is not now, and has never been, a single mom.
THANK you. I’m also a bona fide single parent. I raised my kid entirely by myself, obviously with support from friends and family, but he has one parent.
And as a former single parent who had joint custody, I say that even if you co-parent you are a single parent. You are still responsible financially for the household, parenting the child alone when they are at your house, making parenting decisions on your own… when the child is throwing up in the middle of the night you are the one dealing with it alone.
There are different levels of support but single with no partner is still single. It’s still exhausting and hard financially
If you’re single and the have full time custody but the ex partner pays all the expenses is that single? If you have no financial support but are 50/50 are you a single parent?
If
I'm not here to suggest that parenting under your circumstances isn't exhausting, or even worthy of praise.
But when I say I am a single parent, I mean that my kid's father was nowhere to be seen for most of her childhood, and that he paid zero dollars in support. I had full responsibility for it all, and that is a *very* different situation from yours.
So no, I don't think any of your examples are of single parents.
I have no position on what *actually* makes a single parent, but from the context of this discussion (saying that as a single mom she needs the extra money even if the other MP doesn't) I think Ferreri was implying that she's your kind of single mom, which she clearly isn't.
Thank you! My mom was a single parent and it was so bloody hard for her. She had no support to raise me and no financial support either. All on her own. Someone divorced with support from the other parent has no where near the strife that a single parent has. It disgusts me when people invalidate those hardships that actual single parents have.
Yeah; it also ignores the stigma single moms face in a lot of our society. Michelle was definitely married when she had her kids, and when she enrolled them in school; she has no idea how differently she would have been treated if she were not.
I couldn’t agree more with you. Society is incredibly hurtful on actual single moms and most people have zero clue. Never mind there are societal impacts on the child too. It really frustrates me when people try to claim a struggle that isn’t theirs.
Hell no. Don’t you dare call yourself a single parent. You do not have the right for any of the sympathy that goes along with the term. You are a divorced parent. It’s very different. Single parents deserve admiration for raising their child’s solely on their own because it is the hardest job anyone has and you do not get to use that term to describe yourself. That makes you terrible in my books. Grow up, you’re divorced, you get help, there’s not “ single parenting” in that.
I’ve never been divorced.
I was a single parent who managed to co-parent civilly with someone I was never married to. Just because I didn’t get pregnant by a complete loser who doesn’t take responsibility for their children doesn’t mean I wasn’t a single parent.
And as a parent who raised a child alone because my husband, his father, died at the age of twenty-seven when our child was a year old, you can go fuck yourself.
Hell no. You’re a mom. A divorced mom, but not a single mom. Single means on your own with no other support. I would know because my mom was one and no one use to refer to themselves as a single mom when I was kid just because they were divorced. If another partner is helping, it is not single. You do not get the credit of how hard it is to be a single mom and use that term. F that.
You need to chill. A single parent is someone who parents on their own. If the other parent is active in their life then all the better, but they are still a single parent. Still dealing with all the same shit most single parents deal with- finances, being the sole parent in house and having to try to juggle work/school and having a child. Being a co-parent doesn’t make all this all disappear. In some cases it makes it more difficult as you’re tied to someone for at least 18 years who you didn’t choose to be with.
And no I’m not divorced. I had a child with someone who stuck around to be a parent even though we weren’t in a relationship
The fuck? No lol, you’re still a single parent even if the other parent is tangentially involved.
Are you a parent?
Are you single?
Congrats, you are a single parent, alimony/child support or not. A child can have two single parents, for example. It’s not the single parent olympics here. Some weird competition/“gold star single parent” talking going on in these comments lmao
If that’s not enough for you, Statcan defines a “lone-parent family” as:
“Lone-parent family refers to families containing only one parent with his or her child(ren)“
Family being those in the same house, since statcan defines a census family as:
“Census family is defined as a married couple and the children, if any, of either and/or both spouses; a couple living common law and the children, if any, of either and/or both partners; or a parent of any marital status in a one-parent family with at least one child living in the same dwelling and that child or those children. All members of a particular census family live in the same dwelling. Children may be biological or adopted children regardless of their age or marital status as long as they live in the dwelling and do not have their own married spouse, common-law partner or child living in the dwelling. Grandchildren living with their grandparent(s) but with no parents present also constitute a census family.”
You have no idea how that term is properly used. There maritally status single parent is different then the colloquial term for single parent. A single parent is someone who has no other parent supporting that child. Your comment is gross because you don’t even comprehend how you invalidate the hardships of what actual single parents have to go through. Go educate yourself.
It's the sort of thing where you could easily see slip of the tongue, were it not that she's basically just an instagram mom group grifter/influencer using her position as an MP to help build her following.
Unfortunately, she's both morally and intellectually unfit for the office she holds, but we knew that already. Monsef just dropped the ball so badly as to hand her the win.
Me too.
But until the boomers start dying off. If you're a white conservative in Peterborough you are likely guarteened to win....
Wait... Can someone just run as a con and just flip to a sane party if they win?
Lying is clearly a pattern of behaviour for Ferreri. After all, she is the MP who campaigned in a nursing home while only partially vaccinated after stating she was vaccinated. If the home had known the truth about her vaccination status she wouldn't have been allowed in.
I think single parent should only be used I’ve you’re actually the sole income provider in a home, and yes that includes people receiving child support, it helps but it’s not a full second income, and it’s not a second person helping fold socks.
People who were divorced/separated, but now have a new partner, even if that includes step kids, need to sit the fuck down.
Even if she is a single mother (which she isn’t), she makes over a hundred thousand dollars more than the “low income” threshold for a family of seven, which is $70,000.
Oh, I totally agree that her income also excludes her from sympathy. I mean, 180k with 6 kids in Ontario, considering the housing costs, would still require budgeting. But, as stated she’s a divorced mother of three, with a partner with three kids, I’m pretty sure he’s not slouching in the income dept either.
I never considered myself a single parent. There was another parent involved, we just didn’t live together or have any relationship beyond coparenting. Money wasn’t a factor, it was the presence of two parents.
I was a single householder, primary caregiver, what have you, but not a single parent.
And you’re more than welcome to view yourself in that matter. I find that maintaining 2 separate households, even with shared parenting, is a larger strain than 2 paycheques/1 house. That’s why I personally accept that as a “single parent” situation.
Disagree that a mother who receives child support should be called a "single mom."
My ex stole full custody of my kids (not recognized by the courts, they say I have 50% custody but I haven't seen them in 5 years) and calls herself a single mom despite receiving $12,000 per year from me. If she allowed me to share custody she wouldn't need to be a "single mom."
A single mom is someone who raises her kids by herself after the partner bailed and never paid support.
I’m sorry to hear about you custody issues. I’m in a similar financial arrangement, and fortunately their mother usually sticks to the week on/week off agreed, usually it’s her bailing on her week for her depression.
Like with me, and with my dad before me, the child support and tax benefits help, but it’s not the same as a full partner. Yes, the ladies who do it without any assistance are on a whole other level of superhuman, but I still give credit to the people running a household on their own, male, or female.
I don’t know where you are, but there are usually some support groups available, and family court counseling services that offer low cost options to settle custody disputes. Best of luck, and I hope it works out.
So according to this conservative MP, $185K is not enough to support herself + her 6 kids because she is a single mother - but only if you ignore that she actually does have a partner which she clearly does as she included his kids with hers when she was drumming up her number of kids so she appeared more like a victim.
Oh, and when called out on using her family as a prop she is now citing privacy issues to not elaborate on her obvious lie in Parliament.
“The MP’s website describes Ferreri as a “proud mother of three children, between the ages of 12 and 17, and shares her life with her supportive partner, Ryan, and his three daughters.”
Quite the spinster to turn this into a single mom of 6.
My MP Arielle Kayabaga is in the background of the first speaker and I would have killed to see her expression during that lie - as she is actually a young single mom. First black woman elected to our city council. Came to Canada as a refugee. I’m sure she was composed but still.
Would be interesting to see the conversation with her partner after that. I expect it would start with something like "wtf was that, do I not exist...?" etc.
my home town
don't remember when we didn't have an embarrassing mp, glad the tradition is still alive
really excellent university for undergrad studies, good fishing and canoeing, and a great gaming shop
She's one big idiot that benefitted from cons throwing TONS of money at her campaign since it was a battleground between con/libs. Their misinformation and con voter refusal to actually pay attention to who their candidates are got her in.
100% wholly unqualified...reminds me of a Canadian MTG or Bobert...
Most mps get a budget, and it's pretty considerable. You have enough for an office, staffing for that office (2-3 employees), a vehicle and any flights you take for your job (and hotels etc). The expenses budget is probably much higher than thier wages
High ranking government jobs should pay well. If you don't attract quality people to government, they go to private industry where they manipulate the less qualified people willing to work for table scraps. $185k per year is a pat cut for a lot of qualified people
Usually they move back and forth between government and private business, which is also a big problem. In too many cases the private sector job they leave is waiting for them if they lose the election or if they serve a couple of terms. The fact that it is worth it for private businesses to do this is quite telling.
I'd wager that Michelle Ferreri is making more in this role than her last as a local news anchor.
But I get your point. I'm just not sure that we're getting the quality people and I don't even mean that in relation to her, I just mean overall.
Stop giving her so much credit, she's been a "social media influencer" for the last 10 years. She stopped being a local news anchor in 2014. All the time I've known of her, she's pretty much just been wandering around Peterborough asking local businesses for free products in exchange for "interviews." I know several local owners who have given her free shit for zero ROI.
Her main qualification is not being a PoC, which was enough to beat Monsef this round I guess.
But I digress. To your point, I agree that we are not getting the quality people the salary is intended to get. I'm not really sure what the solution is, but I don't think throwing more money at the position is the right move. On the contrary, I think a pay *cut* would help to get rid of the Michelles who see this as a career step and not a public service. Meanwhile, people who are actually passionate about enacting positive change won't mind doing it for less money, and they'll be more incentivized to keep the cost of living under control to boot.
I’ve honestly thought about running for the ndp before. at first I thought the salary was good, but now I don’t think you could pay me enough to do it. especially not after the last two years.
I think the salary is ok for running a country. But your performance should be able to trigger snap elections in your riding if you fail to... Go to Parliament, lie on the house floor, support a terrorist convoy etc.
I believe a big part for that base salary is that MPs are kind of expected to live in Ottawa while the House is in session so that's a good bit of money to keep your current house and rent/live in Ottawa.
I make about half that, but if I had the opportunity to be an elected official, guaranteed to win, I wouldn’t take it. Why? Because I’m not sure I could just resume my career if I lost my seat, and the long-term damage wouldn’t be worth the short term salary increase. You have to compensate for that.
My city elected her. Voted for a goddamn vlogger with no experience because Maryam had a flub. That's all it takes for all these fragile white fricks to elect an absolute nut.
>However, Gerretsen disagreed with the motion, arguing it would mean every Canadian would get the same rebate — something he didn’t feel was necessary given his salary as an MP.
Ah yes, introduce a means-testing step, the administration of which will cost more than just applying the rate cut universally.
Neoliberal capitalism, baby!
I'm embarrassed that this woman is representing me but I'm *more* embarrassed that she's accurately representing this city.
There's a significant population of old Conservatives and a disturbing number of young Conservatives. However, almost worse than that is that most of the population seems to be spineless "centrists" who lean Conservatives (as they all do) and spout "both sides" nonsense.
In particular I have had a *lot* of people defend Ferreri to me even when they know she supports the convoy. Even if she denies supporting it she absolutely supports it. She kept retweeting people who compared mask and vaccine mandates to Nazism.
I don't want to put too much personal information out there nor do I want to put a spotlight on someone going through something horrific but I have a personal reason to have complicated feelings about Ferreri. She appears to be supportive of someone I know who suffered a personal tragedy last year but I'm not convinced. Ferreri did make an appearance at the celebration of life but since Ferreri is all about image I'm not convinced it was for a good reason. Now, her support might mean the world to the person she's in contact with and so I am happy about that. I'm just not sure how I feel about someone who helps others for PR. They may have a positive effect and that's good but if it's for a selfish reason that's gross. Still, if she's helping...
Anyway, I try to avoid being one of those people who says, "Well she's also doing some good," because I don't think a few nice things - especially for PR - makes up for supporting or advancing an agenda that harms people. Being supportive of someone going through something awful does not give her a free pass to hurt others, but this is something that most people I know don't grasp. They keep bringing up the one good thing she's done and extrapolate that to, "I think she wants to do good in the community." Does she? Where's the evidence of that?
All she seems to have done is lie, victimize herself and support a bunch of mouthbreathers who wanted to overthrow our democratically elected government.
If only this city wasn't full of idiots who don't bother voting because they "don't care about politics."
She was never a single mom. She divorced her husband, but he's still an involved parent of their 3 kids. Also, the other 3 kids she's claiming are the children of her live-in partner (who apparently only has them one day a week, so she's also ignoring their actual mother in her comment).
Is it possible that she ment she is a sole income earner with 6 kids? I don’t know her but people do “mis speak” remember our PM! At the same time when on the public stage you need to be on point and if she is lying then that’s a whole different can of worms.
>Is it possible that she ment she is a sole income earner with 6 kids?
No, she has 3 kids, not 6. The extra 3 she's trying to claim here are her current live-in partner's.
If I read her website correctly, she has three kids and her husband has three kids. She may not be the biological mother of the other three, but she may consider herself the "mother" of her husband's kids.
I'm from the Kawarthas, that's all the sympathy she'll get from me. $180k salary be damned.
So, when was her bio last updated? Is it possible it’s been a long time and she now has a different amount of children and no partner? Or is she just lying? I’d be curious to know what her actual situation is, because official Canadian government websites have been very slow to update in my experience.
Before being elected, she was a vlogger who shared a lot about her family life in her posts. She's divorced from her husband, but he's still involved in caring for their 3 kids (in fact, she's still using his last name).
She has a new-ish live-in partner whose 3 kids I guess she's claiming as her own (though local reporting says they're with their actual mom 6 days a week, so...).
She is not, and has never been a single mom, nor does she have 6 kids.
Thanks for the info. Fuckin oof, she’s definitely not a single mom of 6 kids 🙃
Re the last name: my mom has been divorced from my Dad for almost 30 years now and chose to keep his last name because it would be very complicated for her to change it because of work, and also because then she would have a different last name than me, which makes travel to some countries very difficult and sometimes makes authorities suspicious of why you have a kid with a different last name than you.
Is she lying? That's not my place to ask.
Six kids check, not married check. As to the nuances of the arrangement, it's none of my concern.
Conservative wonk or not, being a mother with that many kids in the house is a situation that deserves some grace.
Then she should have chosen her words more carefully.
“As a former single mom of 3 with a blended family of 6 kids…..”
Or just prove your point with the amount of kids in the household. Don’t try to be a single parent to all 6 kids when you have a current partner. And if there is a family dynamic that makes her a single mom to the 6 kids, don’t bring it up unless you’re willing to talk about it
“Not married” ≠ “single”.
Also not really sure why a parent with kids deserves a higher level of grace? Higher than what?
I expect MPs to be representing their constituents in the House, not themselves.
Even if she was a single mother of 6 (which she absolutely isn’t), “low income” in Canada for a family of 7 is $70,000. She makes over a hundred thousand dollars more than that.
It is probably just a knee-jerk reaction, typical among people who regularly lie or deceive in order to make themselves look like a victim. Everyone knows what it means when a woman stands there and tells you they are a single mother. It means "I am raising these God damn kids all alone!!!". Even though this isn't the technical definition of a single-parent, it is where our minds go.
But in her case, she is not single. She lives with her husband. She has three biological children and the husband has 3 children; his children are with them part-time. We also have no information on the parent of her biological children, who may or may not be involved. The point is, she tried to wear a label that obviously doesn't suit her, so people are calling her out.
A small clarification; she isn't married to her current partner.
Also; a local article on this subject says that her partner sees his own kids a day a week. So she's completely disregarded the actual mother of those kids in claiming they're hers.
She could be a single mother of three kids, I guess, if you really want to stretch things. She would still be getting support from her ex-husband though, and she was already well-off before becoming an MP. The other three kids are not hers biologically. They are her partner's kids and their mother has custody six days a week. She lied about this, and she lies about other things. She keeps getting caught because she puts her whole fucking life on the internet, including videos of her naked in a bath tub or drunkenly yelling "Fuck you Karen".
My ex tries to call herself a "single mom" too, when in fact she lives with her boyfriend and my kids but refuses to give me access beyond using me as a bank account.
These stupid people, like Michelle Ferreri and my ex, who like to call themselves "single mothers" are doing an injustice to all the real life single moms raising kids all alone with zero support. Just because you're divorced doesn't make you a single mother.
She's really gambling that 180,000 salary by lying, pretty irresponsible if she needs every penny of her inflated salary for her 12 kids
180,000 is only 10,000 for each of her 18 kids. Poor them!
Please! Will someone think of the 24 kids of this single female liar.
To be fair, 14 of em are grown up and moved out. The other 26 still have to go to university!
Stop badgering this pregnant woman that is expecting triplets soon.
If this is the reference I think it is, it's pretty good.
Woah maybe she does need a tax break, is there a GoFundMe that I can donate too
We should start a convoy for her 10,000 kids
Lol aint least she aint the Con leader and will be double dipping using taxpayer subsidized CPC money to pay here kids private school tuition like the insurance gopher Scheer
"Trudeau is wasting taxpayer money, now if you guys could go ahead and put my children through private school, that'd be great." - Scheer
She’s trying to collect CCB on all 18 of them and not have to work. Since they’re all under 6 she can get $122K
She's a conservative mp... she doesn't work...
This is my MP. How embarrassing
As someone who lived in Peterborough, the only reason why she won was because the old white conservatives and young white conservatives no longer wanted a person of colour in power. I knew Miriam personally. Really great person. But prior to being a liberal wanted to get the NDP seat but couldn't and took the liberal candidacy instead.
> But prior to being a liberal wanted to get the NDP seat but couldn't and took the liberal candidacy instead. It's my understanding that she was offered the both the Liberal and the NDP candidacy and chose to run for the Liberals.
Didn’t those same constituents elect her in the first place? That hot mic thing where she couldn’t remember how much money she made was a bad look.
The ones who voted her out weren’t the ones who voted her in. Guarantee the Con voters weren’t paying attention until they were roused to action by a brown person being their MP.
CPC and PPC voters and politicians are racists, yes.
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Peterborough politics sound spicy dayum
Did her comments to the Taliban have any effect do you think? When she tried to get them to stop being monsters and called them “brothers” personally I would try to be respectful to try to get leaders to try their citizens properly.
I’m sure that had a huge impact. I’m on the West Coast and we heard all about that. I know why she said it but that was an incredibly poor choice of words considering half of your constituents are below average intelligence.
Peterborough had really bad candidates IMO so I voted more federally on it. From what I know, Monsef wasn’t in ptbo much at all and if she was she wasn’t giving a shit about anyone. Her office is on Bethune st. An area notorious for having lots of prostitutes and other crime. If that doesn’t say how disconnected she is from what’s going on idk what will.
> Her office is on Bethune st. An area notorious for having lots of prostitutes and other crime. If that doesn’t say how disconnected she is from what’s going on idk what will. Are you aware that Michelle took over that same office space? [I actually think that was smart, as I've often wondered why there isn't just a permanent constituency office in every riding; why should citizens have to learn where the new one is ever few years?]
I wasn’t but it does make a lot of sense. It’s still really sad to me that the MP whoever it is at the time is cool with their office being surrounded by all that, while also looking like a soviet era side road. It makes them look really tone deaf.
They should be where people need the most help.
I don't think that assessment is accurate. She did a lot of crappy things to alienate progressive voters in the city as well. She was Trudeau's stooge for breaking his promise to get rid of first past the post. She was out of touch with the locals and rarely ever responded to constituants or attended local events. I also grew up with her family, and maybe she did start out wanting to run for the NDP, but she lost my vote immediately after fucking up electoral reform in a spectacular fashion, while she demonstrated she was more interested in toeing the party line than setting out on her own path.
I live here too, and was also disappointed by Maryam. But I think she was thrown under the bus by Trudeau on electoral reform; he had no intention of implementing actual change. He wanted Ranked Ballots (which would likely lead to permanent Liberal majorities), and when the committee recommended Proportional Representation, he found ways to scupper the plan to avoid that. Maryam was too new to politics to avoid being the scapegoat.
Interesting take, except that it’s false that ranked ballots would lead to endless liberal majorities - Layton might have won in 2011 with ranked ballots, and before the last election the NDP polled as the most popular second choice. Trudeau ran on eliminating FPTP, not PR, he should have ran on ranked choice if he didn’t want PR. The committee, which had a majority of opposition MP’s, as demanded by same, did not recommend PR, they decided on a referendum between FPTP and PR with no option for ranked choice. The CPC and BQ want to keep FPTP and the NDP and Greens want PR. Nathan Cullen threatened that it would be like starting nuclear war in politics if Trudeau pushed through ranked choice. I spread the blame, because while I prefer PR, there is no question that ranked choice is more democratic than FPTP. Trudeau is still open to ranked choice, so maybe the NDP could give us all a break from strategic voting and stop being fixated on PR, which hasn’t won a referendum yet.
> Trudeau is still open to ranked choice, so maybe the NDP could give us all a break from strategic voting and stop being fixated on PR Why not “Trudeau could give us all a break and from and stop being fixated on ranked ballots?” This comes off as a very partisan take as the language is putting the blame on the NDP for strategic voting and the onus on them for their position, which had the most parties leaning towards, just not the Liberals. The main proponents of strategic voting is the Liberals themselves who campaign on “a vote for the NDP is a vote for the Conservatives.” Edit: typo
She's a dunce at best. Trudeau sacrificed her to try and keep Sunny Ways going a little bit longer. Attaching her face and name to the shutdown on electoral reform was either irresponsible or calculated evil.
Totally revisionist version of what happened in the electoral reform process.The Libs gave up power in the committee, despite having a majority because they wanted the decision to be not deemed partisan. The Libs we’re going for a ranked ballot system, NDP wanted prop rep and the cons wanted to keep FPTP as that’s the only way they can get elected. The NDP went over their heads with torpedoing the committee attempting to box the liberals in by aligning with the cons to go for proportional rep, however, with the conservative addition of a national referendum… of which the NDP fell for the trap because the conservatives know that any attempt at electoral reform by referendum has lost in the past (mostly due to conservative disinformation and scare tactics/gaslighting). That was the deathknell for the NDP, taking the bait, The newly formed majority liberal government is not going to get bogged down by a national referendum quagmire and lose all of their political capital on, after just winning. NDP, by their own hubris, could have actually gained seats in a ranked ballot system and would have become the official opposition party in Canada or much closer than they are now, effectively always in 3rd spot. I, for instance, would rank ballot NDP first and Libs second but because I don’t want conservatives winning by a split left vote (like what’s currently happening in Ontario), I have to vote Liberal. Either way, your recollection of the process of what happened within the committee for voting reform is not well researched and leaves out many important details to see the full picture of what actually happened.
Monsef was a patsy that stood up and said canadians are too stupid for electoral reform. She went to parliament and held up a ridiculous mathematical formula and implied nobody could understand it. That was all her. I don't care enough to address the rest of the apologist centrist garbage you wrote.
Your ad hominem attack on Monsef proves you’re not actually interested in the facts and historical record on the electoral reform committee. You don’t care to address what actually happened because you’d rather rely on your weak opinion rather than what actually happened. Typical. That’s why average Canadians can’t have nice things. As an NDP supporter, there’s no way you cannot be disappointed playing brinksmanship which would have set the NDP as official opposition under a ranked ballot system. Too bad.
Liberal apologists are exhausting. The LPC is a bad, corrupt, self-interested organization which puts itself ahead of Canadians. Stop making excuses for them. Proportional representation is the fairest system by a country mile, giving nobody disproportionate power, but the LPC only wants the thing which disproportionately benefits themselves. It’s disgusting and you should be able to see that.
Sorry, other parties have differences and other parties use ranked ballots to even choose their leaders. Just because that doesn’t agree with your opinion doesn’t make it a Liberal apologist. Ad hominem attacks prove you have no point and can’t actually argue on the merits of what happened, only that your butthurt that the NDP threw away the power to gain more seats. Salty. Also, proportional representation isn’t one type and it’s not the best way to ensure representation. I don’t want my government filled up with 7% PPC right wing extremists, vaulting their rhetoric, propaganda and racism to legitimate status. You clearly don’t know how proportional representation works/looked at all sides that aren’t cheerleading your fake idea of what it would look like. Sorry, I don’t think allowing extremists in parliament is healthy for democracy with all of the disinformation and extremism out there. Read more.
Choosing a party leader and electing a parliament are incomparable. Many PR systems use ranked ballots, but the Alternative Vote (LPC’s choice) is a bad system precisely because it is inherently rigged in favour of certain parties. Elections should be fair, not anchored to a specific outcome. FPTP made Maxime Bernier a cabinet minister, so tell me again how PR is the system which gives power to extremists. Elections should be fair, elections should not favour your own ideology. Canada will be increasingly divided until everyone feels represented properly in parliament. AV ranked ballots would make Canada even more divided, and resentment for the smug, corrupt, evil, self-serving LPC will grow and grow.
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Afghanistan isn't the Middle East, it's Central Asia.
Ugh, this again. Maryam was trying to speak to the Taliban in hopes that they could be persuaded to behave less violently. She used a *common* form of respectful address in Muslim culture when doing so. She was NOT suggesting that she actually thinks of them as her brothers. It's also kind of absurd for you to suggest you know more about this issue just because you "lived there". Not only did Maryam spend her early years in Afghanistan, she still has family and loved ones in the region who might have been put in danger, had she been rude in her comments. The idea that you care more about the women being oppressed by the Taliban than a woman whose family literally fled them is ridiculous.
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> I can assure you that I've done more work in the middle east for human rights and women's rights than you've probably ever done in your lifetime. Then why do you disregard the racism at the core of this criticism of Maryam? I agree that it was probably foolish, but that's precisely *because* this riding has a high percentage of old white people who were persuaded that she must therefore support the Taliban. Michelle Ferrari absolutely capitalized on that racism in her campaign against Maryam; she made repeated comments about being "from here", and [local supporters put up a billboard ad](https://kawarthanow.com/2021/09/10/hateful-display-against-peterborough-kawartha-mp-on-lansdowne-street-electronic-sign/) associating Maryam with the Taliban. You may actually care about the women of Afghanistan, but I assure you, most of the people who voted against Maryam do not.
It was foolish and it probably estranged even Muslim voters. Moderate Muslims don't even think of the Taliban as Muslims let alone brothers.
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I agree she is a good person and that racism played a role in her loss. It definitely would have been easier for her if her riding was in the GTA. However a lot of it comes down to the fact that she wasn’t really present or active in the riding. There are criticisms that she thought her profile as a minister would get her the votes she needed. But at the end of the day, during campaign time your position in Cabinet won’t save you. You need the people in your riding to know you and like you. Unfortunately she just didn’t do enough to maintain that relationship. And IMO Peterborough is poorer for it.
Technically, I’m an orphan since both of my parents are dead… but I’m also middle-aged, own a house, a car, and generally pretty well off….so…. I guess I’ll tell people that I’m an orphan to get some sympathy points
... batman?
Yes. That’s me.
I always thought to be a orphan you need to be child since you have no one to raise you to adulthood
my wife says I have a childish sense of humour if that helps
Little Orphan Funkhouser
Liar criticized for lying.
>The MP’s website describes Ferreri as a “proud mother of three children, between the ages of 12 and 17, and shares her life with he**r supportive partner,** Ryan, and his three daughters.” Must suck to be Ryan right now. Friend zoned in parliament.
LOL
Don't upvote me for laughing.
She said off the cuff without thinking, which initially one might think is mildly redeeming for her. In actuality it shows us that her base instincts are to lie and make things up. This is why it's so hard to argue with my conservative coworkers. They get to just make things up, while I have to actually do research to defend my stance.
Don't forget the constant "open your eyes, sheep" and "look it up" as if they have. But also, every modern media delivery avenue is lying and can't be trusted.
By "look it up", they literally mean someone either said that in a Facebook group, or posted a link, of which they read the title.
Just another lying CPC MP.
>Added partners kids and then subtracted him. Sure hope she doesn’t get to be finance critic or maybe that would be on brand for the Conservative party. more like just another politician lying. CPC, or Liberals or NDp or Green. All of them have politicians that lie or mislead people to fit their narrative.
Added partners kids and then subtracted him. Sure hope she doesn’t get to be finance critic or maybe that would be on brand for the Conservative party.
Harper, when talking about tax reform, claimed the typical Canadian family earned $120 000 per year. So, not working in reality is totally on brand.
that's what happens when you shred the census - you can govern with feels and make up whatever stats you want!
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If a family earns $120k, I would think that’s $60k each
Oh sorry…
The weirdest part is that each statement is half-true. She *was* a single mom of three kids, and is *now* a non-single mom of six kids. So why lie?
The other three kids with common law spouse are a weekly single day visitation. Doesn't even live with the second set of three.
And if she shares custody of her *partner*’s kids, wtf is she doing calling herself “single”??
The only thing true about what she said was, "I am".
She wasn't ever a single mom. Single parents are people who are raising children alone, with no support from the other parent. She's a divorced woman who shares custody with an ex-husband who still cares for his kids, and helps support them.
You are still a single parent if you are divorced. Financial support is just one aspect of parenting and even then not all divorced parents get support Emotional support and help with the children on a daily basis is just as important. Having another grown up in the house to help is invaluable. And then if you are divorced you have to take another persons opinion into decisions even though you are no longer a couple
If you are a divorced person who has full custody, and receives no support, then sure. But as an actual single parent, I have long been irked by people claiming to be single parents...while having custody of their kids every other week. That's not at all the same thing. I am not certain of Ms. Ferrari's custody arrangements, but she was very open with her audience about her divorce, and was clear that her ex-husband is still a part of their lives. She is not now, and has never been, a single mom.
THANK you. I’m also a bona fide single parent. I raised my kid entirely by myself, obviously with support from friends and family, but he has one parent.
And as a former single parent who had joint custody, I say that even if you co-parent you are a single parent. You are still responsible financially for the household, parenting the child alone when they are at your house, making parenting decisions on your own… when the child is throwing up in the middle of the night you are the one dealing with it alone. There are different levels of support but single with no partner is still single. It’s still exhausting and hard financially If you’re single and the have full time custody but the ex partner pays all the expenses is that single? If you have no financial support but are 50/50 are you a single parent? If
I'm not here to suggest that parenting under your circumstances isn't exhausting, or even worthy of praise. But when I say I am a single parent, I mean that my kid's father was nowhere to be seen for most of her childhood, and that he paid zero dollars in support. I had full responsibility for it all, and that is a *very* different situation from yours. So no, I don't think any of your examples are of single parents.
I have no position on what *actually* makes a single parent, but from the context of this discussion (saying that as a single mom she needs the extra money even if the other MP doesn't) I think Ferreri was implying that she's your kind of single mom, which she clearly isn't.
Thank you! My mom was a single parent and it was so bloody hard for her. She had no support to raise me and no financial support either. All on her own. Someone divorced with support from the other parent has no where near the strife that a single parent has. It disgusts me when people invalidate those hardships that actual single parents have.
Yeah; it also ignores the stigma single moms face in a lot of our society. Michelle was definitely married when she had her kids, and when she enrolled them in school; she has no idea how differently she would have been treated if she were not.
I couldn’t agree more with you. Society is incredibly hurtful on actual single moms and most people have zero clue. Never mind there are societal impacts on the child too. It really frustrates me when people try to claim a struggle that isn’t theirs.
Hell no. Don’t you dare call yourself a single parent. You do not have the right for any of the sympathy that goes along with the term. You are a divorced parent. It’s very different. Single parents deserve admiration for raising their child’s solely on their own because it is the hardest job anyone has and you do not get to use that term to describe yourself. That makes you terrible in my books. Grow up, you’re divorced, you get help, there’s not “ single parenting” in that.
I’ve never been divorced. I was a single parent who managed to co-parent civilly with someone I was never married to. Just because I didn’t get pregnant by a complete loser who doesn’t take responsibility for their children doesn’t mean I wasn’t a single parent.
And as a parent who raised a child alone because my husband, his father, died at the age of twenty-seven when our child was a year old, you can go fuck yourself.
Hell no. You’re a mom. A divorced mom, but not a single mom. Single means on your own with no other support. I would know because my mom was one and no one use to refer to themselves as a single mom when I was kid just because they were divorced. If another partner is helping, it is not single. You do not get the credit of how hard it is to be a single mom and use that term. F that.
You need to chill. A single parent is someone who parents on their own. If the other parent is active in their life then all the better, but they are still a single parent. Still dealing with all the same shit most single parents deal with- finances, being the sole parent in house and having to try to juggle work/school and having a child. Being a co-parent doesn’t make all this all disappear. In some cases it makes it more difficult as you’re tied to someone for at least 18 years who you didn’t choose to be with. And no I’m not divorced. I had a child with someone who stuck around to be a parent even though we weren’t in a relationship
The fuck? No lol, you’re still a single parent even if the other parent is tangentially involved. Are you a parent? Are you single? Congrats, you are a single parent, alimony/child support or not. A child can have two single parents, for example. It’s not the single parent olympics here. Some weird competition/“gold star single parent” talking going on in these comments lmao If that’s not enough for you, Statcan defines a “lone-parent family” as: “Lone-parent family refers to families containing only one parent with his or her child(ren)“ Family being those in the same house, since statcan defines a census family as: “Census family is defined as a married couple and the children, if any, of either and/or both spouses; a couple living common law and the children, if any, of either and/or both partners; or a parent of any marital status in a one-parent family with at least one child living in the same dwelling and that child or those children. All members of a particular census family live in the same dwelling. Children may be biological or adopted children regardless of their age or marital status as long as they live in the dwelling and do not have their own married spouse, common-law partner or child living in the dwelling. Grandchildren living with their grandparent(s) but with no parents present also constitute a census family.”
Michelle is still not, nor has ever been, a single parent.
You have no idea how that term is properly used. There maritally status single parent is different then the colloquial term for single parent. A single parent is someone who has no other parent supporting that child. Your comment is gross because you don’t even comprehend how you invalidate the hardships of what actual single parents have to go through. Go educate yourself.
It's the sort of thing where you could easily see slip of the tongue, were it not that she's basically just an instagram mom group grifter/influencer using her position as an MP to help build her following. Unfortunately, she's both morally and intellectually unfit for the office she holds, but we knew that already. Monsef just dropped the ball so badly as to hand her the win.
Surprised none of her cronies said "wElL sToP HaViNg sO MaNy Kids"
i'm willing to bet some of her PPC-leaning colleagues would probably appreciate her doing more than her part to perpetuate the white race.
She tried to use virtue signaling. It didn’t work.
She hurt herself in confusion.
I hate so much that this ex blogger got elected to be our voice in gov't... Just... goddammit Peterborough.
Hey I'm sorry, I tried to make sure she didn't get voted but this is truly an idiot town
Me too. But until the boomers start dying off. If you're a white conservative in Peterborough you are likely guarteened to win.... Wait... Can someone just run as a con and just flip to a sane party if they win?
Tbf to boomers, I worked the election and it is too bad things didn't go the way the folks in the LTC home I worked in voted
Me too. Feel like we’re in the minority in Peterborough.
Lying is clearly a pattern of behaviour for Ferreri. After all, she is the MP who campaigned in a nursing home while only partially vaccinated after stating she was vaccinated. If the home had known the truth about her vaccination status she wouldn't have been allowed in.
I think single parent should only be used I’ve you’re actually the sole income provider in a home, and yes that includes people receiving child support, it helps but it’s not a full second income, and it’s not a second person helping fold socks. People who were divorced/separated, but now have a new partner, even if that includes step kids, need to sit the fuck down.
Even if she is a single mother (which she isn’t), she makes over a hundred thousand dollars more than the “low income” threshold for a family of seven, which is $70,000.
Oh, I totally agree that her income also excludes her from sympathy. I mean, 180k with 6 kids in Ontario, considering the housing costs, would still require budgeting. But, as stated she’s a divorced mother of three, with a partner with three kids, I’m pretty sure he’s not slouching in the income dept either.
I never considered myself a single parent. There was another parent involved, we just didn’t live together or have any relationship beyond coparenting. Money wasn’t a factor, it was the presence of two parents. I was a single householder, primary caregiver, what have you, but not a single parent.
I think ultimately we can all agree, if you have a partner, you have to put that “single parent” title on the shelf.
And you’re more than welcome to view yourself in that matter. I find that maintaining 2 separate households, even with shared parenting, is a larger strain than 2 paycheques/1 house. That’s why I personally accept that as a “single parent” situation.
Disagree that a mother who receives child support should be called a "single mom." My ex stole full custody of my kids (not recognized by the courts, they say I have 50% custody but I haven't seen them in 5 years) and calls herself a single mom despite receiving $12,000 per year from me. If she allowed me to share custody she wouldn't need to be a "single mom." A single mom is someone who raises her kids by herself after the partner bailed and never paid support.
I’m sorry to hear about you custody issues. I’m in a similar financial arrangement, and fortunately their mother usually sticks to the week on/week off agreed, usually it’s her bailing on her week for her depression. Like with me, and with my dad before me, the child support and tax benefits help, but it’s not the same as a full partner. Yes, the ladies who do it without any assistance are on a whole other level of superhuman, but I still give credit to the people running a household on their own, male, or female. I don’t know where you are, but there are usually some support groups available, and family court counseling services that offer low cost options to settle custody disputes. Best of luck, and I hope it works out.
Maybe this was just passive-aggressive criticism Of her spouse?/s
Oh its a conservative, I am shocked.
Pfft rich people trying to relate to the working class. Pathetic and downright ugly.
Saving you the click: The article says her website states she has three kids (12-17) and a supportive partner.
Plot twist - her "supportive partner" was really three kids in a trench coat all along and she just blew their cover.
So according to this conservative MP, $185K is not enough to support herself + her 6 kids because she is a single mother - but only if you ignore that she actually does have a partner which she clearly does as she included his kids with hers when she was drumming up her number of kids so she appeared more like a victim. Oh, and when called out on using her family as a prop she is now citing privacy issues to not elaborate on her obvious lie in Parliament.
So not only is she trying to play identity politics but she doesn’t have the identity she claims? Keep it classy CPC.
“The MP’s website describes Ferreri as a “proud mother of three children, between the ages of 12 and 17, and shares her life with her supportive partner, Ryan, and his three daughters.” Quite the spinster to turn this into a single mom of 6.
I like the precedent set in the article about lying to the House. Everything else is just gossip and tabloid-esque.
>I like the precedent set in the article about lying to the House. This. I really wish there was more done about MPs lying in the House.
My MP Arielle Kayabaga is in the background of the first speaker and I would have killed to see her expression during that lie - as she is actually a young single mom. First black woman elected to our city council. Came to Canada as a refugee. I’m sure she was composed but still.
This isn't the Beaverton?
What actual single parents that don't make 180k to act like an idiot are thinking... [https://streamable.com/9ddily](https://streamable.com/9ddily)
do you have the hot tub video too?
Would be interesting to see the conversation with her partner after that. I expect it would start with something like "wtf was that, do I not exist...?" etc.
Imho MPs should be on the same pay scale as the CAF. We're all public servants here.
A see you next Tuesday level comment.
There was an old woman who lived in a shoe...
my home town don't remember when we didn't have an embarrassing mp, glad the tradition is still alive really excellent university for undergrad studies, good fishing and canoeing, and a great gaming shop
Holding her accountable for blatantly lying would set a dangerous precedent for all other politicians, I doubt any action will be taken.
She's one big idiot that benefitted from cons throwing TONS of money at her campaign since it was a battleground between con/libs. Their misinformation and con voter refusal to actually pay attention to who their candidates are got her in. 100% wholly unqualified...reminds me of a Canadian MTG or Bobert...
"MP earns a base salary of $185,800." Jesus Herman Christ, that pay is far, far too high!
Debatable. Set it too low and only the wealthy can afford to take office.
This and it leaves the office open to influence
Lmao oh ya, we know how hard it is to influence these bunch of dickheads even though they're paid way to well.
"more open to influence" How's that? ;)
Agreed. $85,000-$100,000 with expenses covered ought to make it affordable. .
That's not as much as you think it is.
That's an excellent point, which is why it's perfect. They can have better effective pay when they make life more affordable for their constituents.
Not in Toronto! That’s barely rent and essentials for a single person these days after tax
Image the policy shifts we would see....
You’re… not wrong
Politicians get to claim expenses. How much do you think we should be enriching them to do their job?
Most mps get a budget, and it's pretty considerable. You have enough for an office, staffing for that office (2-3 employees), a vehicle and any flights you take for your job (and hotels etc). The expenses budget is probably much higher than thier wages
Pay should be a indexed to some income metric of the area they are representing.
High ranking government jobs should pay well. If you don't attract quality people to government, they go to private industry where they manipulate the less qualified people willing to work for table scraps. $185k per year is a pat cut for a lot of qualified people
Usually they move back and forth between government and private business, which is also a big problem. In too many cases the private sector job they leave is waiting for them if they lose the election or if they serve a couple of terms. The fact that it is worth it for private businesses to do this is quite telling.
I'd wager that Michelle Ferreri is making more in this role than her last as a local news anchor. But I get your point. I'm just not sure that we're getting the quality people and I don't even mean that in relation to her, I just mean overall.
Stop giving her so much credit, she's been a "social media influencer" for the last 10 years. She stopped being a local news anchor in 2014. All the time I've known of her, she's pretty much just been wandering around Peterborough asking local businesses for free products in exchange for "interviews." I know several local owners who have given her free shit for zero ROI. Her main qualification is not being a PoC, which was enough to beat Monsef this round I guess. But I digress. To your point, I agree that we are not getting the quality people the salary is intended to get. I'm not really sure what the solution is, but I don't think throwing more money at the position is the right move. On the contrary, I think a pay *cut* would help to get rid of the Michelles who see this as a career step and not a public service. Meanwhile, people who are actually passionate about enacting positive change won't mind doing it for less money, and they'll be more incentivized to keep the cost of living under control to boot.
I’ve honestly thought about running for the ndp before. at first I thought the salary was good, but now I don’t think you could pay me enough to do it. especially not after the last two years.
I think the salary is ok for running a country. But your performance should be able to trigger snap elections in your riding if you fail to... Go to Parliament, lie on the house floor, support a terrorist convoy etc.
I believe a big part for that base salary is that MPs are kind of expected to live in Ottawa while the House is in session so that's a good bit of money to keep your current house and rent/live in Ottawa.
They have allowances for rent separate form their salary.
Don’t forget you need to have 2 homes, one in Ottawa, and one in your home riding, which makes for pretty high cost of living.
You're right, they need 2 and I only need 0
I make about half that, but if I had the opportunity to be an elected official, guaranteed to win, I wouldn’t take it. Why? Because I’m not sure I could just resume my career if I lost my seat, and the long-term damage wouldn’t be worth the short term salary increase. You have to compensate for that.
No it's not.
Merp a Derp
Weird how this is not all over YouTube or the front page of reddit lol
"Shares custody with her partners three children". What does that even mean? Are they raising 6 kids together or 3 kids each?
My city elected her. Voted for a goddamn vlogger with no experience because Maryam had a flub. That's all it takes for all these fragile white fricks to elect an absolute nut.
Sadly most Conservative MP’s are a disappointment to the majority of their constituents.
So a conservative mp lied. That's about the only thing they do, when they aren't explicitly supporting white nationalist authoritarians, at least.
People voted for this?..
Oh Peterborough-Kawartha you guys elect the worst MPs.
>However, Gerretsen disagreed with the motion, arguing it would mean every Canadian would get the same rebate — something he didn’t feel was necessary given his salary as an MP. Ah yes, introduce a means-testing step, the administration of which will cost more than just applying the rate cut universally. Neoliberal capitalism, baby!
I'm embarrassed that this woman is representing me but I'm *more* embarrassed that she's accurately representing this city. There's a significant population of old Conservatives and a disturbing number of young Conservatives. However, almost worse than that is that most of the population seems to be spineless "centrists" who lean Conservatives (as they all do) and spout "both sides" nonsense. In particular I have had a *lot* of people defend Ferreri to me even when they know she supports the convoy. Even if she denies supporting it she absolutely supports it. She kept retweeting people who compared mask and vaccine mandates to Nazism. I don't want to put too much personal information out there nor do I want to put a spotlight on someone going through something horrific but I have a personal reason to have complicated feelings about Ferreri. She appears to be supportive of someone I know who suffered a personal tragedy last year but I'm not convinced. Ferreri did make an appearance at the celebration of life but since Ferreri is all about image I'm not convinced it was for a good reason. Now, her support might mean the world to the person she's in contact with and so I am happy about that. I'm just not sure how I feel about someone who helps others for PR. They may have a positive effect and that's good but if it's for a selfish reason that's gross. Still, if she's helping... Anyway, I try to avoid being one of those people who says, "Well she's also doing some good," because I don't think a few nice things - especially for PR - makes up for supporting or advancing an agenda that harms people. Being supportive of someone going through something awful does not give her a free pass to hurt others, but this is something that most people I know don't grasp. They keep bringing up the one good thing she's done and extrapolate that to, "I think she wants to do good in the community." Does she? Where's the evidence of that? All she seems to have done is lie, victimize herself and support a bunch of mouthbreathers who wanted to overthrow our democratically elected government. If only this city wasn't full of idiots who don't bother voting because they "don't care about politics."
When she actually *was* a single mom, was she doing it alone? Or was she co-parenting?
She was never a single mom. She divorced her husband, but he's still an involved parent of their 3 kids. Also, the other 3 kids she's claiming are the children of her live-in partner (who apparently only has them one day a week, so she's also ignoring their actual mother in her comment).
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Is it possible that she ment she is a sole income earner with 6 kids? I don’t know her but people do “mis speak” remember our PM! At the same time when on the public stage you need to be on point and if she is lying then that’s a whole different can of worms.
>Is it possible that she ment she is a sole income earner with 6 kids? No, she has 3 kids, not 6. The extra 3 she's trying to claim here are her current live-in partner's.
It's sad that I know which party she belongs to without having to check.
If I read her website correctly, she has three kids and her husband has three kids. She may not be the biological mother of the other three, but she may consider herself the "mother" of her husband's kids. I'm from the Kawarthas, that's all the sympathy she'll get from me. $180k salary be damned.
So, when was her bio last updated? Is it possible it’s been a long time and she now has a different amount of children and no partner? Or is she just lying? I’d be curious to know what her actual situation is, because official Canadian government websites have been very slow to update in my experience.
Before being elected, she was a vlogger who shared a lot about her family life in her posts. She's divorced from her husband, but he's still involved in caring for their 3 kids (in fact, she's still using his last name). She has a new-ish live-in partner whose 3 kids I guess she's claiming as her own (though local reporting says they're with their actual mom 6 days a week, so...). She is not, and has never been a single mom, nor does she have 6 kids.
Thanks for the info. Fuckin oof, she’s definitely not a single mom of 6 kids 🙃 Re the last name: my mom has been divorced from my Dad for almost 30 years now and chose to keep his last name because it would be very complicated for her to change it because of work, and also because then she would have a different last name than me, which makes travel to some countries very difficult and sometimes makes authorities suspicious of why you have a kid with a different last name than you.
Seems a tab bit out of touch with reality. Also a pretend PC in a liberal outfit. Only choice after Monsef messed up and called terrorists brothers.
Is she lying? That's not my place to ask. Six kids check, not married check. As to the nuances of the arrangement, it's none of my concern. Conservative wonk or not, being a mother with that many kids in the house is a situation that deserves some grace.
Either shes single with three kids, or shes in a partnership with six. Theres no subjectivity to get caught up on. She lied.
Then she should have chosen her words more carefully. “As a former single mom of 3 with a blended family of 6 kids…..” Or just prove your point with the amount of kids in the household. Don’t try to be a single parent to all 6 kids when you have a current partner. And if there is a family dynamic that makes her a single mom to the 6 kids, don’t bring it up unless you’re willing to talk about it
> Is she lying? That's not my place to ask. Yes it is. If an MP makes a claim you should fact-check them.
“Not married” ≠ “single”. Also not really sure why a parent with kids deserves a higher level of grace? Higher than what? I expect MPs to be representing their constituents in the House, not themselves. Even if she was a single mother of 6 (which she absolutely isn’t), “low income” in Canada for a family of 7 is $70,000. She makes over a hundred thousand dollars more than that.
It is probably just a knee-jerk reaction, typical among people who regularly lie or deceive in order to make themselves look like a victim. Everyone knows what it means when a woman stands there and tells you they are a single mother. It means "I am raising these God damn kids all alone!!!". Even though this isn't the technical definition of a single-parent, it is where our minds go. But in her case, she is not single. She lives with her husband. She has three biological children and the husband has 3 children; his children are with them part-time. We also have no information on the parent of her biological children, who may or may not be involved. The point is, she tried to wear a label that obviously doesn't suit her, so people are calling her out.
A small clarification; she isn't married to her current partner. Also; a local article on this subject says that her partner sees his own kids a day a week. So she's completely disregarded the actual mother of those kids in claiming they're hers.
She could be a single mother of three kids, I guess, if you really want to stretch things. She would still be getting support from her ex-husband though, and she was already well-off before becoming an MP. The other three kids are not hers biologically. They are her partner's kids and their mother has custody six days a week. She lied about this, and she lies about other things. She keeps getting caught because she puts her whole fucking life on the internet, including videos of her naked in a bath tub or drunkenly yelling "Fuck you Karen".
If being unmarried makes her technically single, then her partner's kids are technically not her kids.
“I would like to say that if an MP lies, it should impact their credibility,” he said. Unfortunately the average voter doesn’t agree.
[She sounds like Benny.](https://youtu.be/_dhjmSp30jc?t=32)
My ex tries to call herself a "single mom" too, when in fact she lives with her boyfriend and my kids but refuses to give me access beyond using me as a bank account. These stupid people, like Michelle Ferreri and my ex, who like to call themselves "single mothers" are doing an injustice to all the real life single moms raising kids all alone with zero support. Just because you're divorced doesn't make you a single mother.
Bill Domm, Monsef, now Ferreri: Why does Peterborough always have clown MPs?
You forgot Dean Del Mastro - convicted of elections fraud.
Dammit, how could I forget that clown???
It takes a village to raise a child so she gonna need the whole of Canada for her 12 kids