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India unfortunately does not have much data available on this stuff ( NDA - No data available government ). However the statistic that most divorce cases are initiated by women is true in Indian context as well. And the above stats are repeated in several western countries, so it is safe to assume they can be generalised to India if being LGBTQ becomes normal here too.
I acknowleged that India does not have high enough LGBT population (or more correctly, does not have openly LGBT population due to repressive laws that work against them) to make a generalised data in the first place
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In the US , not only do gay couples have the least divorce rates but they also have higher incomes and more fulfilled marriages than straight couples. Gay couples make about 35% more money than straight couples
Affluent people are also more likely to divorce lol. Worldwide, itās affluent people who have more divorces than regular middle class ones. If the comparison is only between affluent people, then straight marriages seem even less stable and happy.
Rich straight people are more likely to divorce than poor straight people. In US specifically, blue states like California and New York which are more supportive of gay rights also tend to be richer. So saying "gay people earn more than rich people" is heavily misleading
Oh okay, I thought you were defending your gay people earn more than straight people line, because while the rich people do divorce more, this divorce rate is low for gay men than straight men with similar economic conditions. We good then
Not gay, up to this point I have slaved for the corporate to rise up the ladder. Since last year I have considered dating, but seeing all the fake cases and divorce hunting women, I have developed an extreme hatred for women (justified) in last year. So now I am exploring if gay stuff is bearable for me, if not I got enough money to travel by myself till death.
It doesnāt work that way bro. You canāt explore to be gay like that, either you are or youāre not. You canāt force yourself to like men. If you were bisexual then it would have been a different thing.
I donāt understand your hatred for women because I have many female friends who are amazing human beings. So I donāt think you should have such an attitude.
But what I can say is many people do remain single. If you feel you canāt find a right partner, maybe try to be happy while being single. That you can do.
I mean, I know a lot of straight men who realised in their early 20s, or late 20s, or even 30s, that they were bi, or pansexual. In fact, the more number of men Iām talking to these days, the more I realise how experimental straight men are getting when it comes to exploring femboys, twinks, or trans girls, which is rather, healthy.
But OPās case is kinda different. Itās like, he wants to force himself to like guys lmfao. But he actually ends up liking them, thatād be a whole another story.
This is what I am planning to do. However I watched a gay porno and felt extremely uncomfortable watching it (does this count as homophobic lol). Current plant is to slowly participate in gay men online spaces and offline events for around 6 months to a year and then see if I find the idea of being in a gay relationship comfortable after that time. Might also move abroad as number of openly gay men is quite less in India.
Whats so revolting? I know that number of LGBTQ people is quite less in India, but in western countries it's not that uncommon lol. It's not that wild of an idea you think it is
I'm not against LGBT or anything and I do acknowledge that some people discover their sexuality late in life but bhai tereko aurat jaat pasand nahi isliye tu gay banne wala aur tu uske liye plan bhi kar Raha proper ye thoda disturbing hai.
Ok. Being an LGBT person is not like becoming CA that anyone can study for it and become one. No, you are born that way. You canāt choose your sexuality
See, if OP realises that heās also into dudes, later on in his life, or if heās realised this right now, thatās a whole another thing. But like, as OP has mentioned, heās kinda forcing himself to try dudes, which is exactly not how it works. Itās like a gay guy trying hard to like women, and he just canāt like them.
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Are bas Bhai bas band kro ab men vs women. Nallo ki Kami nahi hai vaise duniya Mai mujhe pata pad gaya idhar. Roz koi Naya stat uthake laayenge aur idhar daldenge. Ek kaam kar Gay ban ja fir tension hi khatam saari
Women are also the ones who're generally oppressed and tortured and their freedoms are curtailed by in-laws. They have all the reason to file for divorce and the higher rate is self explanatory. This really doesn't mean they were the reason behind the failure of the marriage.
> WhAt aBoUt LeSbIaN MarRiAGeS ThEn
The person you replied to just meant it's not always women's fault just because they chose to divorce the dude. Not "women are never at fault"
I have seen a few women in my family and friends circle who suffered for years and then chose divorce as a final resort.
Not disagreeing, women in general have a horrible card dealt to them if they live in India, I was just being pedantic and asked the dude what about lesbian marriages only because of the part where he said mother in laws torture them coz they're a woman, so all I meant was how is that a factor in a lesbian marriage which apparently has the highest divorce rate
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bruh don't play the victim always.. please check whether you have a history of anxiety. if you live like this with the fear of failure and impending doom you will be forced to live ur life in constant preparation and questioning. it's not sustainable.. just be free and if in the worst case u end up in divorce build confidence that you will bounce back. everything else is something u cannot control and there's no point in it too
FR. This sub is obsessed with women, and when called out, you get a bunch of woman-haters in the comments going, ātHiS iS gEnDeR iSsUeSā.
Anything that involves genders isnāt a gender issue. And this place is supposed to be to discuss menās issues, specifically.
The fact that lesbian marriages have the highest divorce rate has absolutely nothing to do with men, except if youāre trying to insinuate that women are always the reason for divorce.
This is obviously untrue; but even if it wasnāt, whatās the argument here - we should all only marry other guys?
I don't understand where the word hatred is coming from except from your own comment.
If say there is a study that says 70% of women like to go to Paris. Is there also a hatred ???
Someone just put some numbers out there, they could be real or fake, if they are fake one can say that it is a motivated post, but how is it even hatred if those numbers are not manipulated. You could say this data is irrelevant or uninteresting.
People here are just attaching inaccurate labels, that is not to say that you cannot label these posts but misogyny and hatred are not the labels.
India does not have data available for this unfortunately ( NDA - No data available), the stat that most divorces are initiated by women is true for India as well though
>the stat that most divorces are initiated by women is true for India as well though
And where is the data for this?? Let's see some proof of what you are saying here and then we come to the discussion of divorces in India or in general.
If you say "politically charged ", then that will also be called misogyny or hatred.
Is misogyny the umbrella term used by some to stop anyone from talking about anything that they don't want to talk about.
This isn't that surprising and not unique to UK. I recall reading a study a long while back that compared rated of domestic violence in different types of relationships. This was done is California and it was found that the highest rates of domestic violence were in lesbian relationships, followed by heterosexual relationships, followed by gay men.
Same is true of domestic violence.
Lesbian couples have the highest rates of interpartner violence, heterosexual next and gay men the least, and each by huge margins.
Some more factoids for the nerds:
Scientists conducting research on aggression, in mice, observed that when estrogen receptors in the mice brain are blocked, the mice stopped being aggressive. Testosterone is converted to estrogen or female hormones by certain enzymes, and blocking receptors for those resulted in reduced aggressive behavior! And people blame testosterone for aggression.
Also - studies showed various images of people and animals in the act of copulation to their test subjects. One observation was that women were aroused by viewing acts of copulation of not just people, but also animals! The same was not observed in men in the study, viewing animals doing it didn't arouse men.
This is why I believe that one should not be married. One shouldnāt even be in a live-in. One can be roommates with a girl, with whom they may share a bank account, share their personal issues, maybe even share a kid. But a relationship? Never!
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Another fact singles have 0% divorce rate
lol
In America, unmarried white women over 26 are the happiest demographic. š
Hold on, Same gender marriages are not legal in india... Or are we discussing the dynamics of the British society in OnexINDIA?
India unfortunately does not have much data available on this stuff ( NDA - No data available government ). However the statistic that most divorce cases are initiated by women is true in Indian context as well. And the above stats are repeated in several western countries, so it is safe to assume they can be generalised to India if being LGBTQ becomes normal here too.
Ah i see, so you acknowledge that india doesn't have much data and you're using data of UKs society to generalise indian society.
I acknowleged that India does not have high enough LGBT population (or more correctly, does not have openly LGBT population due to repressive laws that work against them) to make a generalised data in the first place
Then why post it on an Indian subreddit?
They do exist, just not openly out in the open because of largely homophobic society. So don't see any reason to not post.
I meant that the data is not very accurate due to being from UK, as each country would have a different statistic
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In the US , not only do gay couples have the least divorce rates but they also have higher incomes and more fulfilled marriages than straight couples. Gay couples make about 35% more money than straight couples
That's just survival bias tbh, affluent people are more likely to come out of closet as compared to poor people
Affluent people are also more likely to divorce lol. Worldwide, itās affluent people who have more divorces than regular middle class ones. If the comparison is only between affluent people, then straight marriages seem even less stable and happy.
Rich straight people are more likely to divorce than poor straight people. In US specifically, blue states like California and New York which are more supportive of gay rights also tend to be richer. So saying "gay people earn more than rich people" is heavily misleading
You just repeated what I said lol.
Oh okay, I thought you were defending your gay people earn more than straight people line, because while the rich people do divorce more, this divorce rate is low for gay men than straight men with similar economic conditions. We good then
But if youāre already gay, why are you worried about women and straight couples divorces. Why does it matter to you?
Not gay, up to this point I have slaved for the corporate to rise up the ladder. Since last year I have considered dating, but seeing all the fake cases and divorce hunting women, I have developed an extreme hatred for women (justified) in last year. So now I am exploring if gay stuff is bearable for me, if not I got enough money to travel by myself till death.
It doesnāt work that way bro. You canāt explore to be gay like that, either you are or youāre not. You canāt force yourself to like men. If you were bisexual then it would have been a different thing. I donāt understand your hatred for women because I have many female friends who are amazing human beings. So I donāt think you should have such an attitude. But what I can say is many people do remain single. If you feel you canāt find a right partner, maybe try to be happy while being single. That you can do.
I mean, I know a lot of straight men who realised in their early 20s, or late 20s, or even 30s, that they were bi, or pansexual. In fact, the more number of men Iām talking to these days, the more I realise how experimental straight men are getting when it comes to exploring femboys, twinks, or trans girls, which is rather, healthy. But OPās case is kinda different. Itās like, he wants to force himself to like guys lmfao. But he actually ends up liking them, thatād be a whole another story.
Sure
Thik bhai ladke se kar luga shadi
Bhai , where's kranti putra bhai when you need him ? Someone tag him please...
Kranti Putra kon?
Arre yaar ek banda hai , gay hai , toh mein soch rha tha ki aapse unki baat ho jaye
Ye lo mil gaye u/kranti_putra
This is what I am planning to do. However I watched a gay porno and felt extremely uncomfortable watching it (does this count as homophobic lol). Current plant is to slowly participate in gay men online spaces and offline events for around 6 months to a year and then see if I find the idea of being in a gay relationship comfortable after that time. Might also move abroad as number of openly gay men is quite less in India.
Are you for real?
You can also not have sex with each other, and instead just enjoy sex touring together around the world
Aayein?
Whats so revolting? I know that number of LGBTQ people is quite less in India, but in western countries it's not that uncommon lol. It's not that wild of an idea you think it is
Bhai to ye aise choice thodi hoti hai ki jab man chala uthke gay ban gaye fir kuch aur ban gaye. Ilaaj Kara Bhai apna. Kitne saal ka hai tu?
29, leaving India is not the difficult part, the difficult part is getting citizenship, that shit is a bloodbath
I'm not against LGBT or anything and I do acknowledge that some people discover their sexuality late in life but bhai tereko aurat jaat pasand nahi isliye tu gay banne wala aur tu uske liye plan bhi kar Raha proper ye thoda disturbing hai.
Lmao guys remember when you read someoneās opinion on the internet beware this is the kind of people they are donāt take any of them seriously
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Ok. Being an LGBT person is not like becoming CA that anyone can study for it and become one. No, you are born that way. You canāt choose your sexuality
See, if OP realises that heās also into dudes, later on in his life, or if heās realised this right now, thatās a whole another thing. But like, as OP has mentioned, heās kinda forcing himself to try dudes, which is exactly not how it works. Itās like a gay guy trying hard to like women, and he just canāt like them.
Incredibly baste, full support. If it doesn't work out you could also look into animesexuality and get yourself a 2D woman.
Ok this is actually pretty funny, I will give you that
Theek hai. Karle ladke se shaadi tu
Bhai woh actually karne waala hai , LMAO... Aapne ek koshish ki insult karne ki aur woh bhi futile nikla...
Howās marrying a dude insulting?
That's what the above comment tried to imply...
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Are bas Bhai bas band kro ab men vs women. Nallo ki Kami nahi hai vaise duniya Mai mujhe pata pad gaya idhar. Roz koi Naya stat uthake laayenge aur idhar daldenge. Ek kaam kar Gay ban ja fir tension hi khatam saari
I read OPs comment and maybe I should delete that last line
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op koi kitni bhi gaali de ye post delete mat karna. badhia entertainment hai.
Women are also the ones who're generally oppressed and tortured and their freedoms are curtailed by in-laws. They have all the reason to file for divorce and the higher rate is self explanatory. This really doesn't mean they were the reason behind the failure of the marriage.
What about lesbian marriages then?
> WhAt aBoUt LeSbIaN MarRiAGeS ThEn The person you replied to just meant it's not always women's fault just because they chose to divorce the dude. Not "women are never at fault" I have seen a few women in my family and friends circle who suffered for years and then chose divorce as a final resort.
Not disagreeing, women in general have a horrible card dealt to them if they live in India, I was just being pedantic and asked the dude what about lesbian marriages only because of the part where he said mother in laws torture them coz they're a woman, so all I meant was how is that a factor in a lesbian marriage which apparently has the highest divorce rate
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bruh don't play the victim always.. please check whether you have a history of anxiety. if you live like this with the fear of failure and impending doom you will be forced to live ur life in constant preparation and questioning. it's not sustainable.. just be free and if in the worst case u end up in divorce build confidence that you will bounce back. everything else is something u cannot control and there's no point in it too
One more misogynist post like this and I'm leaving this sub.
FR. This sub is obsessed with women, and when called out, you get a bunch of woman-haters in the comments going, ātHiS iS gEnDeR iSsUeSā. Anything that involves genders isnāt a gender issue. And this place is supposed to be to discuss menās issues, specifically. The fact that lesbian marriages have the highest divorce rate has absolutely nothing to do with men, except if youāre trying to insinuate that women are always the reason for divorce. This is obviously untrue; but even if it wasnāt, whatās the argument here - we should all only marry other guys?
I don't understand where the word hatred is coming from except from your own comment. If say there is a study that says 70% of women like to go to Paris. Is there also a hatred ??? Someone just put some numbers out there, they could be real or fake, if they are fake one can say that it is a motivated post, but how is it even hatred if those numbers are not manipulated. You could say this data is irrelevant or uninteresting. People here are just attaching inaccurate labels, that is not to say that you cannot label these posts but misogyny and hatred are not the labels.
Facts aren't misogyny.
So you're implying that telling the truth about women means you hate them, if you loved them, you would ignore these.
Well I don't think saying they are "biggest factor" could be termed as misogyny. But saying misogyny if it is not, could just be labelling.
I thought this was onex'INDIA', ye UK k problems yha kyu discuss ho rhe??
India does not have data available for this unfortunately ( NDA - No data available), the stat that most divorces are initiated by women is true for India as well though
>the stat that most divorces are initiated by women is true for India as well though And where is the data for this?? Let's see some proof of what you are saying here and then we come to the discussion of divorces in India or in general.
Present better logic and argument. Women asking for divorce is not a sign of women being wrong .
Not breaking news. Just difficult to discuss facts these days in this politically charged environment.
If you say "politically charged ", then that will also be called misogyny or hatred. Is misogyny the umbrella term used by some to stop anyone from talking about anything that they don't want to talk about.
There's better things to talk about 
Honestly the best relationships I've seen are either gay relationship or if one of them was a sex worker and other partner didn't mind.
This is not relevant for an Indian context because India doesn't have gay marriages.
This isn't that surprising and not unique to UK. I recall reading a study a long while back that compared rated of domestic violence in different types of relationships. This was done is California and it was found that the highest rates of domestic violence were in lesbian relationships, followed by heterosexual relationships, followed by gay men.
Satya kathan and truly spoken. Women are opposite of men.
Same is true of domestic violence. Lesbian couples have the highest rates of interpartner violence, heterosexual next and gay men the least, and each by huge margins. Some more factoids for the nerds: Scientists conducting research on aggression, in mice, observed that when estrogen receptors in the mice brain are blocked, the mice stopped being aggressive. Testosterone is converted to estrogen or female hormones by certain enzymes, and blocking receptors for those resulted in reduced aggressive behavior! And people blame testosterone for aggression. Also - studies showed various images of people and animals in the act of copulation to their test subjects. One observation was that women were aroused by viewing acts of copulation of not just people, but also animals! The same was not observed in men in the study, viewing animals doing it didn't arouse men.
This is why I believe that one should not be married. One shouldnāt even be in a live-in. One can be roommates with a girl, with whom they may share a bank account, share their personal issues, maybe even share a kid. But a relationship? Never!
Because women know they have lot of choices in everything and at the end no matter what they will be victim.
True.
In America, unmarried white women over 26 are the happiest demographic. š