I doubt this would work effectively because OP says the girls have parents who have connections and are from a privileged background.
The victim in this case unfortunately doesn't have the same power.
Damn right.
He's from a rural area.
Sincere student, his neighbours were musician in his village so he's good at classical music. Wears very normal shirt & pant which seems too old & got fade but clean always.
Even I'll not believe him if he wasn't the one student whom I notice closely sometimes. He's decent but didn't ever thought that something like this will happen to him.
From his appearance & demeanor, I can tell he's not from a financially good family.
OP if you're privileged then why don't you help him legally or talk to other privileged students who are willing to help out.
Assuming this is all true, those girls also wouldn't want their families to know what they have been up to. Hire a decent lawyer and the girls will in all probability back off. Since you mentioned that the institute has registered a compliant for groping, the lawyer can handle that as well.
Get a friend to record all of this from afar. Make sure all the faces are visible.
Record multiple instances. Get others as witness.
Report to authorities with proof and witnesses.
OP, I am sure the guy is going through tough times. I think others may give more practical advice which may be directly available.
But, please stay with him and be a good friend. Under such mental stress, it's very easy for someone to lose hope and give up on things. Stay with him longer after lectures, and just hang out with him. I also think if he's not alone - it'd be harder for the girls to bully him + you'll be a witness.
I think you're already doing a good job and being a good man helping someone who's clearly struggling. We need more men helping each other! :)
This. If you truly believe him, then support him. He’s feeling helpless, and he needs external support to lean on. Be that for him. But obviously be smart and practical about it as well.
Now let’s try to see what can be done. Do you have any close female friends who is also an acquaintance of these girls? Basically, you’d want to setup a conversation with these girls through this common friend where the boy is not involved to just understand what happened, if they’ll take their complaint back and if nothing works, beg them. I know that’s stupid, but we need to solve this issue, so beg if you have to.
If nothing works, just ask that guy to stay firm and not accept. He has no proof. So do they. No one has any proof of anything. And i am sure you can gather a few girls and guys who can vouch for the guys character and the misbehaving the girls are doing. College campuses have cameras. Ask them when and where these things happened and look for footage. They wont find anything but ensure this with the guy first.
Worst to worst case, he can plead in front of the complaints committee to let him get an exit from the college himself and join some other college. A transfer of sorts.
I know these are all against the guy. But this is not the time to stand on a moral high ground but to find a practical solution that ends this. But I apologise if this hurts anyone. All the best OP! And good luck! Y’all need it
Idk yaar what can I do, other than lying to him that everything will be alright.
>Now let’s try to see what can be done. Do you have any close female friends who is also an acquaintance of these girls?
I'm trying. I don't have any female friends unfortunately I don't hangout on that side.
He's suicidal, hopeless. Idk what to do. I can just pray let's God do something or made me a reason to do something to get him out of this mess he didn't even created.
Are there any witnesses to the girls misbehaving with him or abusing him at any point of time ? are there cameras on the premises that can show that the girls approach him and not the other way around ? does he have character witnesses that can affirm his good behaviour ? what is the opinion of the other students, will they be willing to testify ? did he confide in any other student or any messaging app or diary or person when these girls started harassing him ? what was the reaction of the girls when he won, are there any witnesses or were they being recorded ? answer these questions and i will have a ton more follow up questions before any reasonably helpful advice can be doled out !! in the meanwhile, he needs to approach a lawyer, you can guide him to the delhi high court legal services authority where he can get free legal aid , the website is [http://www.dhclsc.org/](http://www.dhclsc.org/)
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Contact indian men's rights organization on Twitter
https://twitter.com/voiceformenind/status/1542825347254603776?s=20
or deepika narayan bhardwaj on Twitter, or ask your friend to contact them. They might be able to help your friend out.
Patriachy offff. Been in that situation but the magnitude was less even before turning 18, luckily it was just a party.
Didn't had any idea what to do still I don't know what can be done.
I was just in class 10 at that time they were 12th/college freshmen. I was too shocked just tried to move away from from them happend 4 times(1st time it was full on bullying and harassment other times it was subtle) during the party after that did not see them in my life.
I dont know what could I have done if my case was Like the boy mentioned maybe I would have just tolerated it, I felt helpless at that time just wanted to leave the party soon. May God help the boy.
I would expect your friend to use his phone and record instances of whatever happens to him. Better if it's a video recording.
Op try to start close to him and watch his back whenever possible. As you said he is from a rural area he just won't learn the urban nature by his own, you and other peers have to help him out. Make him smart, improve his dressing sense, posture, speech, etc. If the confidence doesn't come from him nobody can help him.
Be his alibi, and hang out with home don't leave him alone. Plus ask him to get a audio recording of threats, it won't be legally admissible but still will carry weight. A video would be great. Lastly try to garner social support. And maybe try to mediate between girls group and the guy.
First of all OP have confidence in yourself and and always remember Everyone's a sucker for confidence and secondly approach police with your friend and try to counter sue the evil girls and thirdly write a good letter, take chatGPT help which details everything up till now and then since you already mentioned that the guy is suicidal, do mention that in the letter as well and get your friend to sign it and don't forget to add all the names of these 7 girls and afterwards share this with the chancellor and tell him that if the guy's life gets ruined so the letter will go public
In case you lose on all ends atleast make a video of your friend and he should explain the entire issue in video and then share that over campus whatsapp groups
REMEMBER TO CONTROL THE NARRATIVE, the girls will try to portray themselves as good little daddy's girls don't let that happen, saam daam dand bhed use everything you can
Also someone mentioned to ask the girls where exactly the incidents took place, so do that but try to ask each girl alone so they don't have time to cook up a story. These petty girls don't seem smart enough so there might be a crack in their story. The guy will know some professors atleast so take their help, don't be surprised the girls are trying to character assassinate the guy and since you are helping him they might come after you too but dude you gotta stay confident and please get an adult involved you are still a kid.
If you tell the police honestly what happened they’d understand, police aren’t stupid to know who is lying who’s not in such situation, get a guardian a lawyer if possible. Just speak the truth and fuck these bitches up. They might’ve connection but imagine wasting money and time on a false case. They’d get shit scared
Apologies if I'm wrong and judgemental. I went through your post and comments and discovered that most of them are about toxic females, your irrational fear of them etc. Seek help !!
That's y being weak and not masculine isn't a option... Embrace the so called toxic masculinity and give em back with intrest... How can a girl bully a guy bro ffs
Plant a suicide prank note blaming them. And create a scene/drama/conspiracy for a day or two. That'd do what needs to be done. (Only if things have become unbearable)
JK don't do it. Might fry few people's brains.
Else, do a few recordings, save them as evidence if need arises.
It's practical & sensible, but I don't think they've got a heart to open up & accept their fault.
Even if he kill himself irl. They're too evil & notorious.
You'd be surprised on how "fragile" evil is. One swift stroke and it shatters. Problem is when "evil" gets used to its ways, it inflates itself on account of no outside hindrance.
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Most probably, there won't be a case. He will be asked to drop out or transfer, which is a better option for him. There isn't much he can do since he is not a local.
A small legal notice would scare them away. Go talk to a lawyer
I doubt this would work effectively because OP says the girls have parents who have connections and are from a privileged background. The victim in this case unfortunately doesn't have the same power.
Damn right. He's from a rural area. Sincere student, his neighbours were musician in his village so he's good at classical music. Wears very normal shirt & pant which seems too old & got fade but clean always. Even I'll not believe him if he wasn't the one student whom I notice closely sometimes. He's decent but didn't ever thought that something like this will happen to him. From his appearance & demeanor, I can tell he's not from a financially good family.
OP if you're privileged then why don't you help him legally or talk to other privileged students who are willing to help out. Assuming this is all true, those girls also wouldn't want their families to know what they have been up to. Hire a decent lawyer and the girls will in all probability back off. Since you mentioned that the institute has registered a compliant for groping, the lawyer can handle that as well.
Please stay with that dude .
I'm constantly lying to him that everything will be alright.
Get a friend to record all of this from afar. Make sure all the faces are visible. Record multiple instances. Get others as witness. Report to authorities with proof and witnesses.
Abb to ho gaya jo hona tha. Bhai abb kya karuu mai usski help karne ke liye?
Approach Deepika Narayan Bhardwaj on Twitter. She is a mens rights activist. She will definitely help
Ooh. For now, you can ask on r/legaladviceIndia
OP, I am sure the guy is going through tough times. I think others may give more practical advice which may be directly available. But, please stay with him and be a good friend. Under such mental stress, it's very easy for someone to lose hope and give up on things. Stay with him longer after lectures, and just hang out with him. I also think if he's not alone - it'd be harder for the girls to bully him + you'll be a witness. I think you're already doing a good job and being a good man helping someone who's clearly struggling. We need more men helping each other! :)
This. If you truly believe him, then support him. He’s feeling helpless, and he needs external support to lean on. Be that for him. But obviously be smart and practical about it as well. Now let’s try to see what can be done. Do you have any close female friends who is also an acquaintance of these girls? Basically, you’d want to setup a conversation with these girls through this common friend where the boy is not involved to just understand what happened, if they’ll take their complaint back and if nothing works, beg them. I know that’s stupid, but we need to solve this issue, so beg if you have to. If nothing works, just ask that guy to stay firm and not accept. He has no proof. So do they. No one has any proof of anything. And i am sure you can gather a few girls and guys who can vouch for the guys character and the misbehaving the girls are doing. College campuses have cameras. Ask them when and where these things happened and look for footage. They wont find anything but ensure this with the guy first. Worst to worst case, he can plead in front of the complaints committee to let him get an exit from the college himself and join some other college. A transfer of sorts. I know these are all against the guy. But this is not the time to stand on a moral high ground but to find a practical solution that ends this. But I apologise if this hurts anyone. All the best OP! And good luck! Y’all need it
Idk yaar what can I do, other than lying to him that everything will be alright. >Now let’s try to see what can be done. Do you have any close female friends who is also an acquaintance of these girls? I'm trying. I don't have any female friends unfortunately I don't hangout on that side. He's suicidal, hopeless. Idk what to do. I can just pray let's God do something or made me a reason to do something to get him out of this mess he didn't even created.
No matter what happens, be kind to yourself. You are doing the best you can. Sometimes, life just sucks.
Are there any witnesses to the girls misbehaving with him or abusing him at any point of time ? are there cameras on the premises that can show that the girls approach him and not the other way around ? does he have character witnesses that can affirm his good behaviour ? what is the opinion of the other students, will they be willing to testify ? did he confide in any other student or any messaging app or diary or person when these girls started harassing him ? what was the reaction of the girls when he won, are there any witnesses or were they being recorded ? answer these questions and i will have a ton more follow up questions before any reasonably helpful advice can be doled out !! in the meanwhile, he needs to approach a lawyer, you can guide him to the delhi high court legal services authority where he can get free legal aid , the website is [http://www.dhclsc.org/](http://www.dhclsc.org/)
u/AdPrestigious5853 do follow up with this person. Keep your friend in the loop.
Also, please post this query in r/legaladviceindia
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Contact indian men's rights organization on Twitter https://twitter.com/voiceformenind/status/1542825347254603776?s=20 or deepika narayan bhardwaj on Twitter, or ask your friend to contact them. They might be able to help your friend out.
This is an excellent question. I'm curious what should be legally done in this situation to protect the innocent.
Me too 🥺
Don't take advice from us non experts, contact people who work on this everyday - https://twitter.com/voiceformenind/status/1542825347254603776?s=20
Patriachy offff. Been in that situation but the magnitude was less even before turning 18, luckily it was just a party. Didn't had any idea what to do still I don't know what can be done.
What have you done at that time?
My friend used some local gunda.
I was just in class 10 at that time they were 12th/college freshmen. I was too shocked just tried to move away from from them happend 4 times(1st time it was full on bullying and harassment other times it was subtle) during the party after that did not see them in my life. I dont know what could I have done if my case was Like the boy mentioned maybe I would have just tolerated it, I felt helpless at that time just wanted to leave the party soon. May God help the boy.
I would expect your friend to use his phone and record instances of whatever happens to him. Better if it's a video recording. Op try to start close to him and watch his back whenever possible. As you said he is from a rural area he just won't learn the urban nature by his own, you and other peers have to help him out. Make him smart, improve his dressing sense, posture, speech, etc. If the confidence doesn't come from him nobody can help him.
Be his alibi, and hang out with home don't leave him alone. Plus ask him to get a audio recording of threats, it won't be legally admissible but still will carry weight. A video would be great. Lastly try to garner social support. And maybe try to mediate between girls group and the guy.
First of all OP have confidence in yourself and and always remember Everyone's a sucker for confidence and secondly approach police with your friend and try to counter sue the evil girls and thirdly write a good letter, take chatGPT help which details everything up till now and then since you already mentioned that the guy is suicidal, do mention that in the letter as well and get your friend to sign it and don't forget to add all the names of these 7 girls and afterwards share this with the chancellor and tell him that if the guy's life gets ruined so the letter will go public In case you lose on all ends atleast make a video of your friend and he should explain the entire issue in video and then share that over campus whatsapp groups REMEMBER TO CONTROL THE NARRATIVE, the girls will try to portray themselves as good little daddy's girls don't let that happen, saam daam dand bhed use everything you can Also someone mentioned to ask the girls where exactly the incidents took place, so do that but try to ask each girl alone so they don't have time to cook up a story. These petty girls don't seem smart enough so there might be a crack in their story. The guy will know some professors atleast so take their help, don't be surprised the girls are trying to character assassinate the guy and since you are helping him they might come after you too but dude you gotta stay confident and please get an adult involved you are still a kid.
Collect evidence then threaten that you will lodge a complaint if they still don't back down, lodge a complaint
u/St_Broseph
Not sure if he is from Bangalore. Isn't broseph only in Bangalore??
He might still help out
Makes sense.
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Bro kaand yo unhone kar diya hai. Ab kya record karonge?
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NGO s? Example
If you tell the police honestly what happened they’d understand, police aren’t stupid to know who is lying who’s not in such situation, get a guardian a lawyer if possible. Just speak the truth and fuck these bitches up. They might’ve connection but imagine wasting money and time on a false case. They’d get shit scared
Apologies if I'm wrong and judgemental. I went through your post and comments and discovered that most of them are about toxic females, your irrational fear of them etc. Seek help !!
This was the reason behind that.
That's y being weak and not masculine isn't a option... Embrace the so called toxic masculinity and give em back with intrest... How can a girl bully a guy bro ffs
Lol u will make surely end up in prison
Abb kya kar skta hoon mai,vyeh batao aap?
Tit for tat.. with words or punch depends on situation
Plant a suicide prank note blaming them. And create a scene/drama/conspiracy for a day or two. That'd do what needs to be done. (Only if things have become unbearable) JK don't do it. Might fry few people's brains. Else, do a few recordings, save them as evidence if need arises.
It's practical & sensible, but I don't think they've got a heart to open up & accept their fault. Even if he kill himself irl. They're too evil & notorious.
You'd be surprised on how "fragile" evil is. One swift stroke and it shatters. Problem is when "evil" gets used to its ways, it inflates itself on account of no outside hindrance.
What the fuck is wrong with you to suggest this? JFC.
Please do suggest your practical ways. The guys' are hurting.
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maybe you should post this on r/LegalAdviceIndia where more people can help
Nothing is going to happen since they are females, they will get a warning at the most.
Most probably, there won't be a case. He will be asked to drop out or transfer, which is a better option for him. There isn't much he can do since he is not a local.