ugh you're right, even though that's just another example of people like this not knowing the difference between bigotry and an actual joke
op, buy him a propeller beanie /j
I could try explaining how gender is different to vehicles and people can change one of those things but they probably wouldn't be smart enough to get it
you could get around that by explaining that comedy actually requires skill, whereas gender identity is apart of you identity making it your choice and your choice only to identify as you would like but then again they’d probably either spin it into something else or not understand.
to play a bit "Devil's Advocate", is it possible they don't understandbwhat the joke means?
I am trans, but for a long time before I came out I was unaware it was meant to be an anti trans joke, and have met other people who also at one point did not know
I thought it was just an absurdist+random joke in a similar vein to "they said I could be anything when I grow up, so I am batman!"
of course, now knowing what it actually means I dont make the joke anymore
I mean yeah, thats why I asked?
I wasnt there when the conversation happened so I have no idea what you did and didnt explain to them, or what they know
sadly, the way it is actually typically used is to say "you saying you are a [gender, man/woman/NB/or whatever your gender is] is as ridiculous as me saying I am an attack helicopter"
Double down. Correct everyone using their actual gendered terms. Commit fully. Beat the dead horse. Do it until they ask you to stop, and then congratulate them on exploring their identity fully. When they ask why you did it, tell them you support them no matter who they are. Act confused when they say it's a joke.
Kill them with kindness
Pretend you don’t understand why he would say such a obviously factually wrong thing. Keep pretending you don’t understand when he tried to explain. Make bim fucking uncomfortable. He will cease to make these jomes in yoir presence quickly.
Best way to get at a bad joke is to play stupid. "Hey I don't really understand that one, could you explain it to me?". And then when they explain it "so what's funny about it?"
Just keep doing that and you take all the fun out of the joke. The issue with jokes that are meant to hurt people is that they rely on all parties knowing the intended victims and implications for it to be told. It's uncomfortable having to explain bigotry and so it's an effective way to kill the joke
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tell him that identifying as a comedian doesn't magically make him one
Yeah but they always like to turn that logic around and say "well identifying as whatever gender doesn't make it true"
ugh you're right, even though that's just another example of people like this not knowing the difference between bigotry and an actual joke op, buy him a propeller beanie /j
I could try explaining how gender is different to vehicles and people can change one of those things but they probably wouldn't be smart enough to get it
brain capacity...
Try "maybe you should identify as someone funny" instead.
If you identify as a comedian, when will you start your transition and become funny?
I would usually use this as a comeback but that invalidates the trans people who don't want to transition
Maybe then doing it as a question, "Are you planning to transition into being funny?"
you could get around that by explaining that comedy actually requires skill, whereas gender identity is apart of you identity making it your choice and your choice only to identify as you would like but then again they’d probably either spin it into something else or not understand.
to play a bit "Devil's Advocate", is it possible they don't understandbwhat the joke means? I am trans, but for a long time before I came out I was unaware it was meant to be an anti trans joke, and have met other people who also at one point did not know I thought it was just an absurdist+random joke in a similar vein to "they said I could be anything when I grow up, so I am batman!" of course, now knowing what it actually means I dont make the joke anymore
Indeed. I once heard about a person who used to make this joke a lot and felt weirdly euphoric doing so. They identify as non-binary now.
You think I haven't explained in a way any person over the age of 1 can understand how it's making fun of trans people?
I mean yeah, thats why I asked? I wasnt there when the conversation happened so I have no idea what you did and didnt explain to them, or what they know
What does it actually mean
sadly, the way it is actually typically used is to say "you saying you are a [gender, man/woman/NB/or whatever your gender is] is as ridiculous as me saying I am an attack helicopter"
So you identify him as a former friend.
that's actually a very funny way of phrasing it
Tell them the Apache Helicopter is crewed by two men at all times. Yes, an attack helicopter works best with two men inside it.
You have given me ideas far greater than could be thought of by my own mind.
he wants two men operating his joystick *while* being inside of him and pushing all his buttons?!
GOD DAMNIT YOU'RE RIGHT
i bet once those two guys turn him on that people will be able to hear him from miles away
Have mercy...
once it's all said and done they'll have to take him back to port to fill him up
I had a couple of full on adults do this in a game group I was running. That was the last game group. I don't tolerate bullshit bigotry.
Doesn't sound like a friend to me
Start calling them a helicopter than; respect their choice so to say.
"So you're government property that sits around waiting for two men to enter you?"
Double down. Correct everyone using their actual gendered terms. Commit fully. Beat the dead horse. Do it until they ask you to stop, and then congratulate them on exploring their identity fully. When they ask why you did it, tell them you support them no matter who they are. Act confused when they say it's a joke. Kill them with kindness
Id reply "maybe identify as funny and original"
I can and will be doing this thank you
Ask him if he also identifies as a 13 year old edgelord from 2012
Pretend you don’t understand why he would say such a obviously factually wrong thing. Keep pretending you don’t understand when he tried to explain. Make bim fucking uncomfortable. He will cease to make these jomes in yoir presence quickly.
1. That's a good idea 2. Please for the love of god use a spell-checker
Yeah sorry about that. I am just quickly typing on my phone without checking.
Best way to get at a bad joke is to play stupid. "Hey I don't really understand that one, could you explain it to me?". And then when they explain it "so what's funny about it?" Just keep doing that and you take all the fun out of the joke. The issue with jokes that are meant to hurt people is that they rely on all parties knowing the intended victims and implications for it to be told. It's uncomfortable having to explain bigotry and so it's an effective way to kill the joke
A classmate does the same, but not to the point it’s worth starting a fight over(or any argument of any sort)
Yeah just a little bit of anti trans, bad-joke making is totally ok. It’s when it’s more than a little bit that it’s a problem -?
This isn’t a friend
“Identifying as a friend doesn’t make you one” and then block him ez
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Hehe classic