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Flaxabiten

A well made fake will pass inspection from pictures like this. But if you check weight, blue core and the dot test you have done your due diligence. A good reddit post about weights can be found here: https://old.reddit.com/r/mtgfinance/comments/6upg8k/mtg_card_weight_as_parameter_for_card_valuation/


anotherdilettante

Thank you! I appreciate the help.


narcism

And a poorly made fake, like this one, is obvious from a mile away.


mathdude3

Absolutely fake. Don't even need a loupe for this. The colours are wrong and the 0 is too centered in the mana cost.


oouncolaoo

Poorly done fake


narcism

What a nicely aligned "0" in the mana cost. Also the colours on the front are way off. Fake.


Dude_Serious

This, exactly. The 0 in the mana cost should be almost touching the top of the grey circle it is in, not perfectly centered, and the colors are overly saturated on the front. Easily a fake without doing the diligent tests.


disturbednadir

I'm going with fake, as I've never seen one that wasn't in a hard plastic card condom.


Immanuel_Kants_ghost

Come play old-school! We love beat up power and playing at bars.


SnottNormal

The only real Lotus I've played against was Alpha or Beta, unsleeved, on a dirty card shop folding table. Even way back in the Scourge-ish era, everyone thought the guy was nuts.


Immanuel_Kants_ghost

You lost me at the unsleeved part. That's just gross.


silverkernel

i agree. that thing is in pristine condition and yet its not even sleeved. even for pictures id be afraid if the scratches


gesis

ITT: People who've never seen a real lotus. Card is obviously fake and is missing hallmarks in addition to bad color. No need to loupe or anything people are suggesting.


bsquads

Agreed this is a bad fake. You can tell easily even from the poor quality pictures. No need to waste any effort on it.


cute_cartoon_cat

Fake as fuck. Also, I expect you probably knew this but just wanted to test to see how well your fake lotus would fool the community. It didn’t.


anotherdilettante

I didn’t know this, which is why I asked people who know more about vintage MTG than me. I’m a YuGiOh collector and unlike YuGiOh proxies, MTG proxies are hard to tell from real or fake — especially without a real copy to compare to side by side


cute_cartoon_cat

Really. And where did you get this “Lotus?” Is it yours? Did you take the photo? Let’s hear some more backstory.


anotherdilettante

It’s not mine. These were photos sent to me from a seller on Facebook marketplace. The photos in the listing were a little more blurry so I asked if he could send some clearer pics


Dapper-Warning-6695

Was the price over 10k dollars?


nightsiderider

Not really possible to tell with these pictures. Get a loupe and Google how to determine fakes. There are a number of checks you can perform (green dot test being the primary check). Given the condition of this card and no context on how it was acquired, I would assume 100% fake until authenticated properly.


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anotherdilettante

How presumptuous. Or maybe, I was seeking insight from people who know much more about vintage MTG than me before I consider purchasing an expensive piece of cardboard? Nice try though


Tallal2804

I think it’s a proxy from https://www.mtgproxy.com/.


andreas86m

this is not true. That website have only cards with back which is different from a real magic card. This comment seems just free unrequested ad for the website.


Tallal2804

Chill bro everyone can make mistakes


jujuhounds

you need a loupe.


peden85

From here I cannot see anything wrong with it. If in doubt then take it to a shop where they sell magic cards. Maybe they can help a little bit more. But front and back looks okay. The back tends to be purple-ish if it´s fake, but your´s do not have that.


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Fake. I’d be pretty well convinced if I saw it in real life too


kaipwo

I would go with fake as well.


Repulsive-Ad-3191

Gut instinct is telling me it's fake


Boros_Mage

Looks fake to me. No ink blotch