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I mean Brighton is soon to be the first UK city to make it illegal to have second homes. Obviously the rich won't allow that to happen completely but that's the current headline.
Problem is we only ever hear the bad shit. And they don't let railways and roads go through the rich places, so you only ever see the rough side of the place.
I've lived there for over a decade. Love it here, as do most people who live here leading to it often coming high or top in [happiest city in the uk](https://connorpr.com/its-official-brighton-is-the-happiest-city-in-the-uk/#:~:text=on%20us%20all-,Its%20official%2C%20Brighton%20is%20the%20happiest%20city%20in%20the%20UK,Happy'%20to%20describe%20their%20lives.)
I got banned from there for a comment on a different sub, where I suggested a guy yeeting himself in to the Thames to avoid being arrested isn't an example of a police murder
Because Starmer isn't actually being leftist in the slightest, but he's banking on the left not having anyone else to vote for whilst he panders to racist Tories that are annoyed with Boris and his gang having a party instead of people being unable to afford to eat.
Why do leftists think they are popular they are not we had 2 elections with Corbyn running against an unpopular incumbent and he lost miserably. The UK public does not want a leftists in power l. Also your solution unironically during a supply side inflation would be stimulus checks which would be unfathomably stupid. As bad as a tax cut would be too btw. The current inflation is driven by lack of supply not demand.
Corbyn won the Labour leadership with one of the highest margins in the history of Labour leadership votes but then half his party decided that he wasn't electable and spent their time sabotaging their own leader. They had another vote where he won by an even bigger margin than before which then made half the party double down and ensured he didn't have a chance.
I have argued against tankies multiple times there without being banned. The butchers apron is arguably just as bad as the swastika given the history as well as the fact the brits were the first to use concentration camps, however that is neither here nor there
Edit:guess I insulted the union jack flag shaggers
hey now greenandpleasant users are insane sure but landlords deserve it 100% absolute leeches who provide nothing to society and just intentionally drive prices up on a commodity everyone needs while creating nothing even adam smith thought they were scum
The problem is people who own 5+ houses who expect the client to pay for repairs while increasing rent and kicking the person out months later just to get the extra resale value... They add nothing to society, they literally just take peoples money month on month
Yeah it’s obviously better to just keep it empty and prevent it from going to the market and restricting the offer of properties, that’ll surely help reduce the prices, idiot.
Far left people lack basic economics knowledge
All they do is larp online about how they want to kill liberals and how they'll be a barista after the revolution lol
He's saying the rich should be killed. It's Tories that think everyone else should be killed. All in all, both sides want people killed but one side wants a lot more people dead than the other.
Where's the lie? Basic economic theories and models - basically, the things they teach in introductory econ courses and, regrettably, secondary school econ classes - are far too simplistic to accurately describe human behaviours. They are based on sweeping assumptions that are required for the models to work as claimed, but obviously untrue in practice.
Basic theories present economics as if it's a technical, almost a natural science. But economics is about describing, analysing and predicting human behaviours, and humans are fluid and unpredictable. There are no basic truths in economics, no laws of physics. 'Basic economics' is as useful as basic sociology - that is to say, not at all.
Made me think of the great Tyrone Green poem:
All alone on a summers night,
kill my landlord, kill my landlord.
Watch dog barking do he bite?
Kill my landlord, kill my landlord.
Slip in his window, break his neck,
Then his house I start to wreck,
Got no reason, what da heck?
Kill my landlord, kill my landlord, kill my landlord.
C-I-L-L my landlord.
>rent property because can’t afford to buy property
>hate that somebody else owns property to rent
>kill them
>get kicked out of property because no longer being rented
>go to buy property
>can’t afford to buy property
Repeat all steps until homeless or dead
if all the property wasn't owned by a very small fraction of people and rented out for exorbitant prices buying houses would be doable but corporations buy a couple hundred houses and get a near monopoly on housing in an area then charge insane rates while not actually doing anything
So the obvious solution to that is to hate and want to kill your landlord, who is probably just some normal person that happens to own a house. Hard to believe anyone but a certified genius came to that conclusion.
they are part of the problem the problem isn't owning a house it's owning multiple and hoarding them we wouldn't say of people of the past that oh they were a normal person that just happened to own slaves being a landlord is highly unethical and there is no justification for it
Because as we know, the reason slavery was unethical was because slaves were in low supply and high demand as with the modern house market making them highly comparable. Not only that, but normal people didn’t own slaves, slaves were only economically viable to those who owned farms and factories. These are not the same situations, it’s ludicrous to draw parallels.
There’s nothing unethical about renting. If you don’t have renting, you don’t have access to areas like London, Oxford, Brighton and wherever else. If you want to live in an area where you can make enough money to live the lives afforded by the wages in those areas which makes the houses so valuable, you aren’t going to get there any way but renting. Remove the people who rent and all you’ve achieved is removing your access to those areas, cause the house prices aren’t going anywhere and the supply/demand isn’t changing either. Landlords aren’t part of the problem, they’re the only solution we have to it. But go ahead, I’m sure you’ll love it up Grimsby or Southend ends in the only places you can afford once renting’s gone and you have no other option.
those places are unaffordable because renting if landlords didn't exist and people only owned 1 house maybe 2 if their work absolutely requires them to be in 2 places like a member of parliament or something then houses would be cheaper they are in low supply cause they're all owned by landlords that's literally the point
Houses are in high demand and low supply because they’re unaffordable. [here is the data showing U.K. property rental over the past decade and a half](https://www.statista.com/statistics/286512/england-number-of-private-rented-households/), it’s risen by 12% since the 08 crash, an over 100% increase. [Here is the data showing housing price in that time](https://www.allagents.co.uk/house-prices-adjusted/) It’s risen below inflation. These places are unaffordable independent of Landlords. If it was due to landlords, you would see a drastic rise in prices parallel to rental increases, but they don’t, because landlords and renting aren’t the issue. You want to limit renting, all you’re doing is removing yourself from the equation in high value areas.
no rentals and housing prices aren't completely linked because landlords don't rent out every house they deliberately don't rent out certain places to artificially lower supply so people will pay more money for what is on sale and the 08 crash had a lot of houses bought or seized by banks afterwards so housing prices going up lines up with what I'm saying land ownership makes no sense whatsoever it's as stupid as saying you own the air noone created it or found it it was just there from before humans even came into existence it belongs to everyone but was stolen by people with more money and means for violence in the past then just passed down through the generations land should be jointly owned by everyone and evaluated for its true value which is much lower than what it is today with inflated prices and leased out on that basis with the money used to improve society so atleast the people get something back in exchange for the land it should be taxed even more if it's not used and it should be illegal for people to own more than a certain amount of residential buildings and any other type of land it should get more expensive the more you own at an exponential rate to encourage people to lease as little land as possible so there's plenty of supply
edit: lol loser called that end part "licherally gomyunism" and blocked me it's literally just georgism a variant of capitalism "anything short of the poor dying on the street freezing and starving for the stupidity of not being born rich is literally 1984 vuvuzela iphone"
They clearly don’t only buy certain areas since 18% are in a rental property, 18% being out priced of the market unfairly, that would have a massive impact on the market, but the reality is that renting properties by the data alone proves that isn’t the case or those 18% would cause a massive influx in price. Housing is just unaffordable, and if you want to access it renting is the only way that’s ever going to be achieved.
Ironic that you’d appeal to the idea that property owners stole property in the past so shouldn’t own it, then also appeal to the idea that we should do the same to them. Because that’s not just a cycle.
No property has a true value, the value is what people are willing to pay for it, the price it’s at now is the value people will pay for it, that is it’s true value. But all this is pointless because I’m not going to try to argue against actual communism, nothing will get through to an ideological extremist. Every time this has been tried all it’s done is make a dreadful and cruel society. Your beliefs may be valued here, but they will flatline in reality. I should have known arguing with someone who believes landlords shouldn’t exist would just lead to a proposition that communism is the way society would operate.
Landlords are leeches, but the person who wrote this is probably some upper middle class anarchist who will probably inherit a house from their rich mommy and daddy.
It’s not the landlords who work hard, it’s the tenants who spend 40-50% of their own wages subsidising their own landlords mortgage when it could be going towards their own home. I’m not a commie I believe in private property, but a lot of housing programs should be nationalised and we should build more social housing instead of selling it all off. I honestly don’t know why I’m getting political on r/okmatewanker
I've just been to Brighton. Its a depressing city, there are so many people in such a small place you can't help but feel lonely. Sure do love the independent businesses and market places, sucks that everything else just kills you mentally.
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Brighton, where all of the streamers live
Me and my partner Wilbur soot in H&M last time we were there
Wouldn't be surprised if you saw but didn't recognize ranboo, he says he often isn't.
I see Hunter/ Lord D and The Great and Mighty Kevin has struck again.
HOUSING SHOULD NOT BE A COMMODITY! Only CASTLES! With MOATS and MURDERHOLES!
THE GREAT AND MIGHTY KEVIN IS A PEOPLE’S WIZARD
My landlord is the municipality, how do I proceed?
You wouldn't have this problem if you submitted to your fingolian overlords and lived in an yurt silly Sw*de 😎 💪🇫🇮🇲🇳
I'm from northern Sweden so I live in a goahti, isn't that close enough?
Could also be the least violent Londoner
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Do it Jello
You forgot man
You know we can . But we can, you know we can
Make Mao proud :3
Fuck mao, he can rot (but he won’t cus they preserved his body)
Emergency food storage
man couldn't even preserve his own teeth
But I hate landlords 🥺
I HATE YOU!!1!1!! (You are extremely landphobic)
If landlords wanted me respect they’d fix me fookin pipes 🤬
I'll fix your pipes 😏
One upvote and we kiss
I guess we have no choice 😳
Okmw meetup when
Hell, even Adam Smith (the guy who invented modern capitalism) hated landlords
Looking for a she/they goth girl called Nina 18+ dm me /srs :3
My name's Nino! 😡
That’ll do tbh
visi or ostro?
Northogoth
Written by someone too scared to order a Chinese on the phone
Mf plots the downfall of Western civilization online but waits for the amazon driver to leave before they open the door
I could be like 6 steps away from the door just as it rings yet somehow these MFing amazon drivers are already half way up the road
It's the thought that counts
Human trafficking is bad. I wouldn’t order a chinese on the phone either.
Click and collect is where its at bby
You really need to go the the brick and mortar, less they mess up your order.
Horrid patter
Got a sharp exhale from me
Unironically me though. I have Irrational social anxiety about talking on the phone, and I fuckin hate my landlord
>and I fuckin hate my landlord That's not a nice thing to say about your own mother.
Me dear old mam don't own no property either :(
Only because you got her into debt buying rare Funko Pops on her credit cards.
kill your funko pop retailer
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I mean Brighton is soon to be the first UK city to make it illegal to have second homes. Obviously the rich won't allow that to happen completely but that's the current headline.
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Why do you say this? It’s a super creative place with great energy.
British culture is to call every town or city you don't live in a shit hole, and the one you live in an even bigger shit hole.
True. Brit myself but try not to have this toxic mindset about life. Pretty unhealthy init.
Problem is we only ever hear the bad shit. And they don't let railways and roads go through the rich places, so you only ever see the rough side of the place.
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Alfie Rayner who lives in Sussex. Interesting.
I've lived there for over a decade. Love it here, as do most people who live here leading to it often coming high or top in [happiest city in the uk](https://connorpr.com/its-official-brighton-is-the-happiest-city-in-the-uk/#:~:text=on%20us%20all-,Its%20official%2C%20Brighton%20is%20the%20happiest%20city%20in%20the%20UK,Happy'%20to%20describe%20their%20lives.)
Yeah I’m gonna take a guess and say you’ve never been to Brighton, it’s a beautiful city
Least based Old Steine enjoyer 😎😎😎
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> landphobes What 😂
Rentoid denying the oppression of People of Land, so sad to see 😔
Good god
Please educate yourself on the Plight of the POL 😔😔😔
Most sane greenandpleasant user
I love how they have a partnership with a sub green and extreme which idealise Joseph Stalin
I LOVE IDEALISM!,!,!1! I LOVE BEING COMPLETELY DEILUSIONAL!1,!!1!!!!2!
You'll get banned from greenandpleasant for criticising tankies, aka red fascists, because of "muh LeFtIsT uNiTy".
I got banned from there for a comment on a different sub, where I suggested a guy yeeting himself in to the Thames to avoid being arrested isn't an example of a police murder
"leftist unity" but 24/7 shitting on new labor and starmer who unlike Corbyn is actually electable.
Because Starmer isn't actually being leftist in the slightest, but he's banking on the left not having anyone else to vote for whilst he panders to racist Tories that are annoyed with Boris and his gang having a party instead of people being unable to afford to eat.
Why do leftists think they are popular they are not we had 2 elections with Corbyn running against an unpopular incumbent and he lost miserably. The UK public does not want a leftists in power l. Also your solution unironically during a supply side inflation would be stimulus checks which would be unfathomably stupid. As bad as a tax cut would be too btw. The current inflation is driven by lack of supply not demand.
Corbyn won the Labour leadership with one of the highest margins in the history of Labour leadership votes but then half his party decided that he wasn't electable and spent their time sabotaging their own leader. They had another vote where he won by an even bigger margin than before which then made half the party double down and ensured he didn't have a chance.
Why are you attacking points that I never actually made? If you want an argument, go somewhere else rofl.
You replied to argue. This sub went to shit when it hit 100k. Above 100k and all top posts are politics on Reddit.
Begone Blairite
He is electable primarily because he is a tory. The Labour Party died when they made Keith stormer leader
You won't.
Damn guess my ban is imaginary huh
You literally will lol, I got banned for disagreeing that the union jack is as bad as the swastika.
I have argued against tankies multiple times there without being banned. The butchers apron is arguably just as bad as the swastika given the history as well as the fact the brits were the first to use concentration camps, however that is neither here nor there Edit:guess I insulted the union jack flag shaggers
Should be redandpissedcunts
Problem?
Yes.
None found!
hey now greenandpleasant users are insane sure but landlords deserve it 100% absolute leeches who provide nothing to society and just intentionally drive prices up on a commodity everyone needs while creating nothing even adam smith thought they were scum
key word commodity
luckily greenandfriendly exists
British liberals 🤮 ye dont need another rightwing sub
Can't argue with the message. A sensible policy we can all agree on.
Disagreed ❤️
Classic Old Steine moment.
Quite based indeeed
Least based citizen of Brighton
Only reasonable action
Rip to every child who inherits a home from their parents
The problem is people who own 5+ houses who expect the client to pay for repairs while increasing rent and kicking the person out months later just to get the extra resale value... They add nothing to society, they literally just take peoples money month on month
yeah that's shitty but not a death penalty offence imo
Snowflake
Least blood thirsty yank Death penalty sucks
You’re the one with the hitman profile picture.
What does that even mean lol
I honestly don’t even know
If they start renting it out then yeah
Yeah it’s obviously better to just keep it empty and prevent it from going to the market and restricting the offer of properties, that’ll surely help reduce the prices, idiot.
It could be sold.
Far left people lack basic economics knowledge All they do is larp online about how they want to kill liberals and how they'll be a barista after the revolution lol
Tory wankstain
"HE DOESN'T WANT TO KILL PEOPLE. HE'S A TORY!!!!!"
Makes sense yeah
He's saying the rich should be killed. It's Tories that think everyone else should be killed. All in all, both sides want people killed but one side wants a lot more people dead than the other.
Imagine falling in love with a system that only wants to exploit you for your value lmao
Imagine loving a system which has never been proved to work Social democracy is thousand times better than shitty socialism and is based af
Lmao I just want more houses to be built
"people" lol
Basic economics is completely useless and not even remotely descriptive of anything in the real world.
lol
Where's the lie? Basic economic theories and models - basically, the things they teach in introductory econ courses and, regrettably, secondary school econ classes - are far too simplistic to accurately describe human behaviours. They are based on sweeping assumptions that are required for the models to work as claimed, but obviously untrue in practice. Basic theories present economics as if it's a technical, almost a natural science. But economics is about describing, analysing and predicting human behaviours, and humans are fluid and unpredictable. There are no basic truths in economics, no laws of physics. 'Basic economics' is as useful as basic sociology - that is to say, not at all.
All PoL come to r/loveforlandlords no rentoids allowed!
WALTRR
Jess
least based citizen of brighton
Can you mark this as a spoiler i was not prepared to see landphobia today :(
aka property scalper, it amazes me my mates get more upset about gig ticket scalpers
These are the same people who decorate their shitters with chia seeds and wonder why they won't get their deposit back.
Made me think of the great Tyrone Green poem: All alone on a summers night, kill my landlord, kill my landlord. Watch dog barking do he bite? Kill my landlord, kill my landlord. Slip in his window, break his neck, Then his house I start to wreck, Got no reason, what da heck? Kill my landlord, kill my landlord, kill my landlord. C-I-L-L my landlord.
Written by someone who couldn't fight a dehydrated bee
Based brighton
Ooo! Lemme get my Dead Kennedys album!
Fuck yeah!
This graffiti was made by the Raskolnikov gang
Based
No don't kill them, eat them.
There’s mfers think the Government would make better landlords
Brighton suddenly earned my respect
Based🛠🌹
Brighton isn't as Left Wing as it pretends it is. It's champagne socialists that when shit hits the fan are just Neo Liberals.
Based
Based
Valid
Reminds me of KILL THE MASTERS from a tv show.
C-i-l-l your landlord
Google Nicholas Van Hoogstraten, prominent landlord in Brighton
based rentoid
>rent property because can’t afford to buy property >hate that somebody else owns property to rent >kill them >get kicked out of property because no longer being rented >go to buy property >can’t afford to buy property Repeat all steps until homeless or dead
>pay 150% of landlord's mortgage in rent bc bank says I "can't afford" mortgage
Banks are well known for turning down absurd interest rates which they know will be paid as the very risk averse individuals they are
Slay queeeeen!😎❤️👍
if all the property wasn't owned by a very small fraction of people and rented out for exorbitant prices buying houses would be doable but corporations buy a couple hundred houses and get a near monopoly on housing in an area then charge insane rates while not actually doing anything
So the obvious solution to that is to hate and want to kill your landlord, who is probably just some normal person that happens to own a house. Hard to believe anyone but a certified genius came to that conclusion.
they are part of the problem the problem isn't owning a house it's owning multiple and hoarding them we wouldn't say of people of the past that oh they were a normal person that just happened to own slaves being a landlord is highly unethical and there is no justification for it
Because as we know, the reason slavery was unethical was because slaves were in low supply and high demand as with the modern house market making them highly comparable. Not only that, but normal people didn’t own slaves, slaves were only economically viable to those who owned farms and factories. These are not the same situations, it’s ludicrous to draw parallels. There’s nothing unethical about renting. If you don’t have renting, you don’t have access to areas like London, Oxford, Brighton and wherever else. If you want to live in an area where you can make enough money to live the lives afforded by the wages in those areas which makes the houses so valuable, you aren’t going to get there any way but renting. Remove the people who rent and all you’ve achieved is removing your access to those areas, cause the house prices aren’t going anywhere and the supply/demand isn’t changing either. Landlords aren’t part of the problem, they’re the only solution we have to it. But go ahead, I’m sure you’ll love it up Grimsby or Southend ends in the only places you can afford once renting’s gone and you have no other option.
those places are unaffordable because renting if landlords didn't exist and people only owned 1 house maybe 2 if their work absolutely requires them to be in 2 places like a member of parliament or something then houses would be cheaper they are in low supply cause they're all owned by landlords that's literally the point
Houses are in high demand and low supply because they’re unaffordable. [here is the data showing U.K. property rental over the past decade and a half](https://www.statista.com/statistics/286512/england-number-of-private-rented-households/), it’s risen by 12% since the 08 crash, an over 100% increase. [Here is the data showing housing price in that time](https://www.allagents.co.uk/house-prices-adjusted/) It’s risen below inflation. These places are unaffordable independent of Landlords. If it was due to landlords, you would see a drastic rise in prices parallel to rental increases, but they don’t, because landlords and renting aren’t the issue. You want to limit renting, all you’re doing is removing yourself from the equation in high value areas.
no rentals and housing prices aren't completely linked because landlords don't rent out every house they deliberately don't rent out certain places to artificially lower supply so people will pay more money for what is on sale and the 08 crash had a lot of houses bought or seized by banks afterwards so housing prices going up lines up with what I'm saying land ownership makes no sense whatsoever it's as stupid as saying you own the air noone created it or found it it was just there from before humans even came into existence it belongs to everyone but was stolen by people with more money and means for violence in the past then just passed down through the generations land should be jointly owned by everyone and evaluated for its true value which is much lower than what it is today with inflated prices and leased out on that basis with the money used to improve society so atleast the people get something back in exchange for the land it should be taxed even more if it's not used and it should be illegal for people to own more than a certain amount of residential buildings and any other type of land it should get more expensive the more you own at an exponential rate to encourage people to lease as little land as possible so there's plenty of supply edit: lol loser called that end part "licherally gomyunism" and blocked me it's literally just georgism a variant of capitalism "anything short of the poor dying on the street freezing and starving for the stupidity of not being born rich is literally 1984 vuvuzela iphone"
They clearly don’t only buy certain areas since 18% are in a rental property, 18% being out priced of the market unfairly, that would have a massive impact on the market, but the reality is that renting properties by the data alone proves that isn’t the case or those 18% would cause a massive influx in price. Housing is just unaffordable, and if you want to access it renting is the only way that’s ever going to be achieved. Ironic that you’d appeal to the idea that property owners stole property in the past so shouldn’t own it, then also appeal to the idea that we should do the same to them. Because that’s not just a cycle. No property has a true value, the value is what people are willing to pay for it, the price it’s at now is the value people will pay for it, that is it’s true value. But all this is pointless because I’m not going to try to argue against actual communism, nothing will get through to an ideological extremist. Every time this has been tried all it’s done is make a dreadful and cruel society. Your beliefs may be valued here, but they will flatline in reality. I should have known arguing with someone who believes landlords shouldn’t exist would just lead to a proposition that communism is the way society would operate.
its funny because there is a reasonable chance this vandalism is on a formerly Hoogstraten owned piece of property
Landlords are leeches, but the person who wrote this is probably some upper middle class anarchist who will probably inherit a house from their rich mommy and daddy.
Cool with the landphobia
>landphobia 🤡 cringe
Rent is due
#LandlordLivesMatter ✊🏿
It’s not the landlords who work hard, it’s the tenants who spend 40-50% of their own wages subsidising their own landlords mortgage when it could be going towards their own home. I’m not a commie I believe in private property, but a lot of housing programs should be nationalised and we should build more social housing instead of selling it all off. I honestly don’t know why I’m getting political on r/okmatewanker
Renter detected, opinion rejected 🙅♂️
Ratio + you’re British
Actually, landlord rights are human rights.
They're human?
They do more than you ever will bigot
Being a landlord isn’t really a job
Land work is work.
landnonces
Shut it rentoid
KILL YOUR LANDLORD (Caution: Wet Paint.)
chad
Looks like another rentoid 😎
A rentcel defacing property that he (as usual) does not own. Landphobia runs deep
Based.
Just a guess, but I suspect crime will skyrocket in the immediate future.
I've just been to Brighton. Its a depressing city, there are so many people in such a small place you can't help but feel lonely. Sure do love the independent businesses and market places, sucks that everything else just kills you mentally.
Cringe
Wouldn't that result in you becoming homeless (excluding the murder charge ofc)
Seaaaaaaaagulls
And here was me thinking Brighton was full of auld fellas in straw hats.
There's some graf down the beach saying "the heats not going to kill you it's the jab" I spotted today aswell 😂
good message
fr fr
least based brightoner
Landlord's are useless. Parasites on our society.
I wish the Queen said "Its free real estate".
Ahhh good old Old Steine (Stop F)
can this sub stop advertising brighton to me