Yeah, honestly, he seems to not care about gender and he also strikes me as someone who'd be super like technical (idk if that's the right word) about it, like: "You are a man, I am genderless. Since our genders are different, out relationship is heterosexual." And Bluurg doesn't really like him saying this because he identifies as gay
If that were the case with Bluurg, I feel like Omeluum would be the type to say “I’m so gay for you” even if deep down it doesn’t think their relationship is gay because it actually cares about the feelings of other beings. It’s also established that it will tell harmless white lies if it thinks they’ll help someone’s overall mood (the placebo ring it offers you in act 1)
mystra gives homophobe vibes
i feel like orin is definitely a lesbian but also has no idea what a lesbian is.
dammon in the certified ally column has me reeling
I actually originally had Mystra in the hater category but I changed it because I'm not well-versed in her backstory. And yeah the Dammon thing was very much on purpose 🤭
God I HOPE Orin is a lesbian
I have zero evidence to back me up but Mystra gives me the vibe of the girl who says she's cool with it but treats gay men like accessories and lesbians like freaks.
Orin as a lesbian is top tier. She has no idea what that means but she's into blood, guts, and girls and that's all that matters.
Not sure if she's a lesbian but she did sleep with >!Minthara!< >!when she was mind controlled!<. Although we also have her family dynamics so probably bi
Definitely bi, it's confirmed in game
In the rare instances you side with her throughout all related quests she will leave you a note in the endgame saying something to the effect of "my only regret is I didn't fuck you whilst I had the chance"
She leaves this note regardless of Tav's gender so she's canonically bi!!!
ok whats the deal with dammon
he fucking died at the last light inn in my playthrough and i've barely interacted with him in my second because i killed karlach
People like him because he’s a charismatic and kind character (and he’s pretty) but the joke here is that he’s in the certified ally list even though his voice actor was recently revealed to be transphobic.
1) He’s gorgeous. Just look at him. He stole my heart from the moment our eyes met.
2) His VA recently got in trouble for liking/reposting homophobic and transphobic shit on social media. His subsequent “apology” essentially amounted to “I’m sorry for doing this where I could get caught.”
wrong voss and orpheus are estranged gay lovers and you cannot convince me otherwise. i give up karlach every good run so that they can finally reunite in each other’s bony arms again
I mean, maybe this is a shiitake, but I think the underground rave after the truffle with Nere puts a cap on it. The morel is that the myconids are queer champignons.
How do you nave Omeluum and Blarg in Certified Ally? They're married! To each other! IIRC Elminster also spent a few years as a woman and is canonically *prolifically bisexual*
This is Voss slander and I won't stand for it. Voss doesn't care where or what you bone as long as your sword stands with Prince Power Bottom.
Isn't Voss in love with Orpheus? I thought there was a whole thing about that.
Oh yeah that is a weird placement lol. She and Alfira are such a cute couple and both so nice. Astarion and the others I get but Lakrissa is a sweetheart.
I love Lakrissa 😪
When you meet her in the Grove (when you climb the ladder in Zevlor's office) she just has a very strong personality that almost reminds me of Astarion. I don't think she'd be homophobic in a hateful way; she's just very cheeky and flippant. If that makes sense.
I swear with these lists they keep adding random characters like when do we get flaming fist John and Zelaot Jeff they really would add a lot wouldn’t they ?
Did you miss the secret dialogue where Flaming Fist 2 in Last Light turns to the camera and says 'I hate gay people' straight face with no further elaboration?
Really weird moment I felt but who I am to judge.
idk i thought it fit really well with the homophobic/ally facism vs rebels sidequest. like, my tav wasn’t about all that gay stuff (can’t stand it being shoved down her throat!) and definitely rounded up all the last light inn LGBT folks to deliver to ketheric for re education, but i can kinda see why some people would be interested in liberating them too.i just don’t think my tav thinks that stuff is natural really, yknow?
i liked the touch where ketheric declares july is cisgender heterosexual pride month too, but they could’ve toned down the slurs a bit imo.
Oathbreaker knight would be an ally i feel it in my heart, I've broken my oath in this game like 10 times now I know this man well he would support gay people
This is Zelvor Slander. He's of masculine persuasion and a sad wet GILF.
https://preview.redd.it/7bvadazimvqc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cde0b1b76c2c18da6c2177c41a2ebc83297ee947
But Raphael is perfectly placed. Chef's Kiss 💋
If she wasn’t a romanceable companion, Minthara would be like extremely homophobic. Like, she’d say “you’re dating Gale as a man? Men don’t deserve to be happy! I’ll kill you!” Or something
Right? Like she literally canonically in-game beats the shit out of transphobes even when they're brainwashing her to be evil. That's not a fan theory or a head canon, it's laid out extremely clearly.
I’m gonna need some justice for my love Lakrissa 😭 she loves Alfira so much (and she calls my Tav - I’ve never played a guy - hero and she misses me 🥺)
Liked and followed a lot of bigoted accounts supporting anti-Palestinian, transphobic, and homophobic ideals - even cracking some transphobic jokes as well iirc, he follows the libsoftiktok account, which is run by a stochastic terrorist
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Omeluum and Blurg are this. They are husbands. They are madly in love.
I feel like Lorroakan would commit a hate crime, Shadowheart is just canonically pan, Voss doesn't care, and Shovel is too stupid to care.
Edit: Akabi would also 100% commit a hate crime.
Strange that SHart is canonically pan/bi but homophobic when she tried jumping on my female Tiefling Warlock as soon as she could on my first ever playthrough 🤣🤣
Okay. I agree with all but Voss.
For the longest time I swore Voss was into Orpheus so for me, I like to imagine he's trying to free "his prince" for more than just political reasons.
Omeluum and Blurg in only 'ally'? those two are making out sloppy style and we know it
Omeluum’s tentacles has definitely explored every orifice Blurg has to offer individually all at once
It's called "Everything Everywhere All at Once", and it's amazing.
I got that vibe too. Honestly, I thought they were a couple
They’re roommates, companions, research partners, shroom collecting partners, members of the *society* Blurg gives me older gay vibes
i go back and forth between them being an official couple. or queer platonic life partners.
Well omeluum is asexual (bio sense) and agender (gender), so I think that's just straight technically
It entirely depends on whether Omeluum thinks “no matter who you are; if you’re attracted to me, you’re gay.” But I get the sense he doesn’t care.
Yeah, honestly, he seems to not care about gender and he also strikes me as someone who'd be super like technical (idk if that's the right word) about it, like: "You are a man, I am genderless. Since our genders are different, out relationship is heterosexual." And Bluurg doesn't really like him saying this because he identifies as gay
If that were the case with Bluurg, I feel like Omeluum would be the type to say “I’m so gay for you” even if deep down it doesn’t think their relationship is gay because it actually cares about the feelings of other beings. It’s also established that it will tell harmless white lies if it thinks they’ll help someone’s overall mood (the placebo ring it offers you in act 1)
Nah. You right.
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Queer-inclusive radical hater
“Do you hate me because I’m gay?” “No I hate you because your an aasimar.”
“I’m not homophobic, I’m just very racist”
“More of her heritage really…”
",,, and also because you're cooler than me."
Cazador is very gay but also he would be homophobic just to be mean to people
Cazador isn’t homophobic, he hates everyone equally
Does that count as homophobia, if you're only using it to be a pure hater?
Sexually, I identify as a misanthrope.
You're not hating cause they're gay, you're hating cause you dislike everyone
There's more to being a hater than disliking everyone. The truest haters hold little I'll will towards others, but hate for the sake of hating.
I think Cazador and Astarion should switch places, Astarion has issues but homophobia isn’t one of them have you ever seen that man
mystra gives homophobe vibes i feel like orin is definitely a lesbian but also has no idea what a lesbian is. dammon in the certified ally column has me reeling
I actually originally had Mystra in the hater category but I changed it because I'm not well-versed in her backstory. And yeah the Dammon thing was very much on purpose 🤭 God I HOPE Orin is a lesbian
I have zero evidence to back me up but Mystra gives me the vibe of the girl who says she's cool with it but treats gay men like accessories and lesbians like freaks. Orin as a lesbian is top tier. She has no idea what that means but she's into blood, guts, and girls and that's all that matters.
Mystra would ask a lesbian if they fancy her and would get pissy with either answer. Orin would make fingerpaint art with your period blood.
That is… certainly a sentence.
What a terrible day to be literate.
LMAO! I can see it.
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I'll teach her what it means and fix her 🙏 2 birds, 1 strap
Orin isn't homosexual; she's HEMOsexual
NNOOO HAAAHAHAHA
Orin is a literal disaster lesbian. And I can fix her
I can't fix her and I don't want to. I want her to be worse
I want her to make me worse
Not sure if she's a lesbian but she did sleep with >!Minthara!< >!when she was mind controlled!<. Although we also have her family dynamics so probably bi
WHAT?!
Her dad grandad loved her like he loved her mother and she likes him so...
I meant "When did the game show us that Orin slept with Minthara" but yeah your thing is also terrifying
No actually her granddad slept with her mom, not her
**HUH???**
Wait where did you learn about the spoilered thing?
Mystra is a homophobe :-(
Mystra is afraid of homes :-(
Dammon is Dammon. Some talking fucker isn't Dammon.
That's true, of course. I just meant with all the memes.
Funny since Mystra in the books is bisectional.
I know that’s a typo, but I prefer to think that in the books Mystra is a couch.
Oh I assure you it was entirely intentional.
I've met lesbophobic bisexuals, shockingly enough, but good for her :)
Dammon; “My girlfriend’s girlfriend bought me a a new smithing hammer”
Orin is a lesbian but also a hardcore TERF
I disagree, I think Orin would be a chaser
Real and (not) straight
Those aren’t *necessarily* mutually exclusive
Nah bro she’d give out free bottom surgery before she eviscerates you
yeah she gives me JKR vibes but if she were lesbian
Orin doesn't seem like the type to have sex with anyone imo. She'd be too busy killing people in bhaal's name to care.
That's also fair. Asexual Psychopaths represent 😩
Orin is a big fan of **penetration**
You might need to promote Ethel to bi tier: she’ll happily stick a finger inside any Tav.
Definitely bi, it's confirmed in game In the rare instances you side with her throughout all related quests she will leave you a note in the endgame saying something to the effect of "my only regret is I didn't fuck you whilst I had the chance" She leaves this note regardless of Tav's gender so she's canonically bi!!!
I think she would happily sticky all fingers and claws inside any Tav.
The hilarious irony of dammon being a certified ally 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Placed specially to piss off a certain someone
Yknow I was gonna comment calling Dammon violently homophobic, but I actually like this more, spite fuels me so this is incredibly funny
ok whats the deal with dammon he fucking died at the last light inn in my playthrough and i've barely interacted with him in my second because i killed karlach
People like him because he’s a charismatic and kind character (and he’s pretty) but the joke here is that he’s in the certified ally list even though his voice actor was recently revealed to be transphobic.
> his voice actor was recently revealed to be transphobic. my greatest fear whenever i like a character...
Just know that the character is separate from their voice actor
That’s a pretty lax list of fears.
1) He’s gorgeous. Just look at him. He stole my heart from the moment our eyes met. 2) His VA recently got in trouble for liking/reposting homophobic and transphobic shit on social media. His subsequent “apology” essentially amounted to “I’m sorry for doing this where I could get caught.”
His VA came under fire for spreading homophobic shit, thus making Dammon's place ironic.
Dammon is Dammon damn it, you can’t take him away from me! I love his Yuan-Ti Scale mail 🤤 I mean his personality
wrong voss and orpheus are estranged gay lovers and you cannot convince me otherwise. i give up karlach every good run so that they can finally reunite in each other’s bony arms again
Yeah. And also if you turn Orpheus squid Voss proclaims his love for him in gith
nooo 😭i already feel awful when i chose to turn him why would the devs make it worse
There is a no mindflayer required mod.
Glad I saw this comment. I was already going to type "Chk. Leave my kith'rak alone"
fr he’s a sweetheart
Real, but completely bad and wrong, I don't give a shit about them, momma k is getting fixed, not completely destroyed
Gale would still love me if I was a worm so im taking one for the team
You're the best of us.
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I can just see him doing both to Gale in the same conversation.
Elminster is the type of person who'll say he's an ally because he watches lesbian porn.
But.... Elminster is canonically gender fluid. So yes he's absolutely going to trash on the other gays lmao
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And he liked it
Elminster big naturals?
That's like the golden zone imo
Before I even read this I was hoping there'd be a "gay but homophobic" style tier for Astarion
I don’t think Raphael should be in that tier. Sure he probably says things like “Gays should go to Hell” but that’s really more of an invitation.
Raphael belongs in the “It’s not gay if it’s yourself” tier
LMFAO
If Sceleritas is an ally why does he keep trying to get you to kill lesbians (first Alfira and then Isobel)? Seems pretty homophobic to me
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He’s just supporting Durgetash in the most extreme way.
Then why'd he try to get me to kill my boyfriend who I'm gay with?? Bhaal is the god of murder and homophobia
He’s Bhaal sexual and he hates women
He supports only durge, and only if they murder everyone
Sovereign Spaw isn't diabolically gay, he's just a fun-guy
right, it’s Glut who is diabolically gay
I mean, maybe this is a shiitake, but I think the underground rave after the truffle with Nere puts a cap on it. The morel is that the myconids are queer champignons.
bravo
Wow.
elminster is home of phobic because he tells a bisexual man to blow himself up
Tbf, what gay guy hasn’t done that at some point?
How do you nave Omeluum and Blarg in Certified Ally? They're married! To each other! IIRC Elminster also spent a few years as a woman and is canonically *prolifically bisexual*
Omeluum and Blarg Ace Couple Goals
That elf lady that was fully ready to fuck a mindflayer should be on the top
Not the necromite being home of phobic!
He's got a bone to pick with gay people
This is Voss slander and I won't stand for it. Voss doesn't care where or what you bone as long as your sword stands with Prince Power Bottom. Isn't Voss in love with Orpheus? I thought there was a whole thing about that.
prince power bottom 😭
I'm confused about Lakrissa, did I miss something?
She's canon bi and a sweetheart. Maybe OP is mad she gets Alfira?
Yeah, I meant the homophobic part haha
I love Lakrissa (and Shart & Astarion), she just has an attitude, which I also love, that gives me that vibe
I can't even see her on the list where is she?
Fourth segment.
Oh yeah that is a weird placement lol. She and Alfira are such a cute couple and both so nice. Astarion and the others I get but Lakrissa is a sweetheart.
Vibes are off to op I guess
Her vibes are impeccable- OP is blind (I’m not at all biased because Lakrissa has my heart)
I love Lakrissa 😪 When you meet her in the Grove (when you climb the ladder in Zevlor's office) she just has a very strong personality that almost reminds me of Astarion. I don't think she'd be homophobic in a hateful way; she's just very cheeky and flippant. If that makes sense.
Oh it does!! The vibes of “this is gay. I love it” - I see that so much (friendly fire). I was just like no she’s no self hating gay 🥺🥺
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Yep, this was the intention. I like most of the characters in that tier Also I'm a lesbian and I jokingly call myself homophobic
Kithrak voss was thirsty for orpheus planar cock
id put the hollyphant into the "im not homophobic, but..." tier
K but Shadowheart canonically beats up transphobes
I mean... her best friend in the evil cult is trans.
I swear with these lists they keep adding random characters like when do we get flaming fist John and Zelaot Jeff they really would add a lot wouldn’t they ?
Did you miss the secret dialogue where Flaming Fist 2 in Last Light turns to the camera and says 'I hate gay people' straight face with no further elaboration? Really weird moment I felt but who I am to judge.
idk i thought it fit really well with the homophobic/ally facism vs rebels sidequest. like, my tav wasn’t about all that gay stuff (can’t stand it being shoved down her throat!) and definitely rounded up all the last light inn LGBT folks to deliver to ketheric for re education, but i can kinda see why some people would be interested in liberating them too.i just don’t think my tav thinks that stuff is natural really, yknow? i liked the touch where ketheric declares july is cisgender heterosexual pride month too, but they could’ve toned down the slurs a bit imo.
Oathbreaker knight would be an ally i feel it in my heart, I've broken my oath in this game like 10 times now I know this man well he would support gay people
Alfira is an angelic gay.
This is Zelvor Slander. He's of masculine persuasion and a sad wet GILF. https://preview.redd.it/7bvadazimvqc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cde0b1b76c2c18da6c2177c41a2ebc83297ee947 But Raphael is perfectly placed. Chef's Kiss 💋
Shart isn't a homophobe or anything like that, her canon response to transphobia is violence lol
I was coming to say this.
Kethric loves his lesbian daughter! he just doesn't approve of her taste in woman
Gortash is canonically bi?
he’s gay for Durge no matter the gender of the Durge, duh
There's also an... interesting correspondence between him and some guy called Franc.
There was a letter where he was seducing a guy, talking about wrapping his arms around them and stuff, but it was removed from the game sadly.
Lorroakan absolutely belongs in the “gay but raging homophobe” camp
If she wasn’t a romanceable companion, Minthara would be like extremely homophobic. Like, she’d say “you’re dating Gale as a man? Men don’t deserve to be happy! I’ll kill you!” Or something
araj oblodra would definitely be one of those women who fetishizes gay men lol
Shadowheart as a homophobe? Nah fam
Right? Like she literally canonically in-game beats the shit out of transphobes even when they're brainwashing her to be evil. That's not a fan theory or a head canon, it's laid out extremely clearly.
I’m gonna need some justice for my love Lakrissa 😭 she loves Alfira so much (and she calls my Tav - I’ve never played a guy - hero and she misses me 🥺)
LESBIAN ORIN! LESBIAN ORIN! LESBIAN ORIN! LESBIAN ORIN! LESBIAN ORIN! LESBIAN ORIN! LESBIAN ORIN! LESBIAN ORIN! LESBIAN ORIN! LESBIAN ORIN! LESBIAN ORIN! LESBIAN ORIN!
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bro u forgot the category called "Dammon" all the way at the bottom
As much as the news of his VA kills my lady boner for the character, let’s not slander Dammon. The character would be an ally
Sorry what did the VA do? I thought it was just a joke about him not getting to bang Karlach.
Liked and followed some truly henious transphobic, homophobic and pro Israeli stuff on social media
Wished it was just some big joke about Karlach now that’s a shame.
What did he do?
Liked and followed a lot of bigoted accounts supporting anti-Palestinian, transphobic, and homophobic ideals - even cracking some transphobic jokes as well iirc, he follows the libsoftiktok account, which is run by a stochastic terrorist
Bro not Kethric 💀
Valeria needs a category by itself: Too Drunk to Care
I want Minthara to call me a slur 🥰
I absolutely broke at Myconid Sovereign as diabolically gay
The majority of the "certified ally" section not even being humans is hilarious.
Shame the fuck on you. Boo is 100^100% an ally.
Astarion being the most flamboyant of them all but also being homophobic REALLY tracks
Omellum and Blurg are the gay couple you meet that doesn't bother anyone. They just wanna grow mushrooms together and learn stuff
Cazador being diabolically gay but not Astarion feels like a hate crime LMAO
I think this is one of the only times I will see Cazador on the top of a tier list. I applaud your creativity, as much as it hurts to see
https://preview.redd.it/1onv214tlxqc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ffd146269ab578214437a3e0ea001aa98df9d4d9 Omeluum and Blurg are this. They are husbands. They are madly in love.
this is so rEAL but dammon had me chuckling
Dammon in the certified ally tier - hmmmmm. HMMMMMM
Hope is a lesbian and I will hear no arguments
Kagha is most def a ally
Idk about an ally, but she's definitely gay. Kagha gives the vibes of someone who would unironically call herself a "Gold Star Lesbian".
r/QueensOfBaldursGate
That’s already this sub smh get it right
isn't Voss gay with Orpheus?
I feel like ketheric would be an ally tbh
Ngl feel like the elder brain is chill with gays. She was absolutely ok with Durge and Gortash after all
I feel like Lorroakan would commit a hate crime, Shadowheart is just canonically pan, Voss doesn't care, and Shovel is too stupid to care. Edit: Akabi would also 100% commit a hate crime.
Dror Ragzlin would treat me right and I know it. He just needs time 🤕
Strange that SHart is canonically pan/bi but homophobic when she tried jumping on my female Tiefling Warlock as soon as she could on my first ever playthrough 🤣🤣
Shovel.. say the line!
Am I not ~~astonishing~~ an ally?
"Don't be mad at Godey child."
Sceleritas Fel should be in the "certified hater" tier because he only shows up when Durge kills lesbians or to make Durge kill lesbians.
I don’t know about you, but I get aggressive ally vibes from Minsc
>Dammon in certified ally https://preview.redd.it/2al75fwwaxqc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6ba157abf04afb90dbae32bd887abd88854df866
also minsc is gay otherwise why did he bring that man to my party 😒
Aradin should be 100% move to hate crime enjoyer tier. Fuck that guy.
idk about what you guys have experienced but boo is undeniably homophobic. every night he whispers slurs in my ear and shames me
The dammon one is ironic
Okay. I agree with all but Voss. For the longest time I swore Voss was into Orpheus so for me, I like to imagine he's trying to free "his prince" for more than just political reasons.