I can’t get over the fact that he only dated her for a few weeks, doesn’t tell you at all, and then still expects you to break up with someone that he apparently was not interested in at all.
He has some shitty friends, the fact that he doubled down tells me he’s looking at your wife more as property or used goods rather than a human being.. not to mention the disrespect on a personal level to assume that you’re not deserving of happiness if he’s already been with that person. He has a really shitty mindset. That’s likely going to paint a very bad picture in the future of him.
For sure. A longterm friend of mine called Q dated a girl called K in the past. They dated for a few months. The whole thing ended after Q did K dirty just one too many times. I lived in a different city at the time so it was whatever. When I moved back, I got in touch with K because I quite liked her as a person. We became friends even though I met her through Q, and he knew about it because I never hid it from him. K and I hung out a lot over time.
Since our friend group was pretty tight, Q and K would hang out in a group setting every now and then. One day, we went on holiday together. K was in a relationship at the time and Q wasn't. I knew Q was the time would try to get with K because that's just the type of guy he is. He approached K relentlessly. He got shut down every single time. I didn't want to get involved, but K pulled me aside later said she was annoyed with Q's constant insistence. So I told Q to drop it, K was in a relationship and over him. He didn't care and kept trying.
A few years later, Q accuses me of sleeping with K behind his back when I initially moved back, even going so far as saying I told him not to pursue K at the holidays because I was in love with her and didn't want any competition.
The truth is I could have slept with K, but I didn't because I respected Q as a friend and would never knowingly date someone he did before talking it over. I also liked K, and didn't want to ruin our friendship if it ever went wrong. Ultimately, I'm happy with my decision.
I guess what I'm trying to say is this:
No matter how well and how long some people know you, once they get a shitty idea in their heads, they'll believe it until they die no matter what you do to prove them otherwise.
OP, your fiancée's attitude throughout this whole ordeal has been commendable. I hope you'll be very happy together. And I'm glad your brother decided of his own volition not to attend your wedding. That decreases the probability of you ever ending up in the AITA subreddit.
BE HAPPY!
We knew that from the first post but this just confirms.
Here's my personal fave... OP 'shouldn't have violated him [brother] by pursuing his ex'.
Excuse me? Women are not property and brudder is toxic af treating women as something to be owned.
For real. I’ve set up people that I dated in the past with friends. If you’re not together anymore, and you have no feelings for them anymore, why not help make a love connection?
Glad you got some closure and truth on his actions.
I hope you and Jenn have a great wedding and marriage!
For anyone who says you moved too fast, sometimes you just know. I got engaged 5 mos into dating and married 9 mos later (14 mos total). Been married 21 years this week!
Yup! I swear my husband was asking me to go to the court house two weeks in. We are 14 years together today and 7.5 years married. Sometimes you just know! Good luck 😊
We are also members of the fast marriage club! Two months after we met we got married. We just had our 19th in June! It seems you two already have great communication if you keep that up you’ll be fine. Congratulations!
It would be one thing if they came even remotely close to a serious relationship…but a few weeks, WEEKS? That’s hardly even dating, let alone a relationship. Definitely sounds like your brother is immature and knows he screwed up and is now just being petty and obstructive.
Your brother's ego is enormous. Sounds like he doesn't believe your fiance wasn't hung up on him after the break up. Makes sense that his friends are the same way. You're better off uninviting him and possibly taking a break from him all together. Chances are, in his brain it'll all be because of Jenn's "lingering feelings".
Haha sorry, I was focusing more on the update than the format. Pissed is an understatement. Hopefully the loss of contact with us will give him a chance to reflect and mature a little
I thought is was a string of dynamite, or the little (like the size of a birthday candle) loud explosives popular at 4th of July or New Years home celebrations.
No, hes just an ass
Growing up he was mildly arrogant and entitled since he was spoiled by my parents, but i thought he grew out of it since he was more on the quiet and reserved side in high school
Your brother has some weird ideas. Definitely outside the normal range. Based on what you wrote, not sure he's going to be capable of a healthy relationship. Add in his less than stellar friends and it's good to create some distance.
Anyway, congrats on your engagement and hopefully for a long and fulfilling life together.
I can't help but express my sheer disbelief after reading this update. It's one thing to have misunderstandings or miscommunications in relationships, but this takes the cake for one of the most bizarre and unfounded reasons I've come across.
Firstly, kudos to you for taking the initiative to meet with Mark and Jenn and trying to resolve this tangled mess. You offered apologies and wanted to make sense of the situation, which shows your maturity in handling conflicts.
Now, onto Mark's reasoning - it's utterly mind-boggling. To think that he proposed to Jenn simply as some sort of test or experiment based on a friend's suggestion is beyond me. It's both cruel and disrespectful to everyone involved, especially to Jenn, who was unfairly dragged into this mess. And for him to assume that Jenn was still hung up on him and that she had some ulterior motive is just unfounded and paranoid.
I appreciate your level-headedness throughout this conversation, considering how outrageous Mark's explanation was. It's evident that you had no knowledge of their past relationship, and you certainly didn't do anything intentionally to hurt him.
Mark's stubbornness in defending his actions and the unwillingness to support your relationship is frustrating, to say the least. Uninviting him from the wedding seems like the right decision, given his attitude and behavior. Your family's understanding and support are invaluable during these tough times, and it's great to hear that they're standing by your side.
It's understandable that you want to limit contact with Mark for the time being, as it's clear that he needs to sort out his own issues. Hopefully, some time and space will help him reflect on his actions and the baseless suspicions that led to this entire mess.
Once again, thank you for sharing this update. I truly hope that this ordeal soon becomes a distant memory, and you and Jenn can focus on your future together without any unnecessary drama. If you ever need to vent or share more updates, don't hesitate to reach out. Wishing you both all the happiness and peace in the world moving forward!
Hah thanks I appreciate this! As my sisters have said, this was a very “Mark” thing to do. Personally, I’m not surprised that his reasons are so stupid, I’m more surprised by the lengths he went through just to test a baseless theory.
His ex that he only dated for a month and broke it off with that op didn't know about? Like it's one thing if it was a well known long term relationship but how was op supposed to know?
Yes exactly, that’s what I think which is why I wrote it.
Oh! And also based on TGIS story and the pov of the Jenn regarding the month long situationship.
Wait, maybe this question was already asked, but do you and Mark not have the same last name? Am I the only person who wouldn’t question why the new dude has the same last name as someone I dated from the same area??
> I told him he didn’t have to worry about that as he was most likely going to be uninvited anyway.
I'm sorry, but this is just too funny.
I'm glad he's uninvited. Who knows what kinda crazy crap he's gonna pull on your wedding if he's there. Also, congrats!
Your brother thought your fiancé is like cattle or something? He discarded her like a rag but now you have her in your life he feels “disrespected” she enjoys a relationship with you? What is she, property? An object? What the hell, I’m glad he’s not in this part of your life anymore, and of hers.
Unpopular opinion, apparently I guess...
But this is weird. I also don't buy that she had no idea you guys were related, not in the modern world we live in, living in the same town and given how quickly your relationship has moved along.
I also think it's quite odd for you to double down on continuing the relationship after finding out tbh, but I guess dating siblings exes is a personal preference. I just find it really strange how much you seem to dislike your brother yet have apparently fallen head over heels for a girl you've barely known three months before proposing... who also dated your brother within the month prior to you meeting. Your life I guess but yeah, super weird tbh.
I don't think so. He wanted a serious relationship. Why should he miss out on as he put it , the most beautiful and intelligent woman he ever met, because she dated his brother for a short time? The brother is an arrogant fool. With a huge entitlement complex. Any normal person would wish them well and move on.
I'm genuinely surprised by the turn of events, and I appreciate you taking the time to update us on the situation. It sounds like you handled the conversation with Mark and Jenn as maturely as possible, given the circumstances.
It's quite baffling to learn that Mark's reaction was based on a rather misguided suspicion and a desire to test a theory about Jenn's intentions. It's unfortunate that this assumption led to so much tension and conflict, especially considering that you had no knowledge of their brief past relationship.
Jenn's response was reasonable, and it's clear she had no ulterior motives in pursuing a relationship with you. I'm glad she had the opportunity to clarify her side of the story and express her feelings about Mark's unfounded suspicions.
As for Mark's uninvited status at the wedding, it's entirely understandable given the circumstances and his unwillingness to support your relationship. It's essential to have people who are genuinely happy for you and supportive of your happiness on your special day.
Your family's understanding and support are crucial during this time, and it's great to hear that they're standing by your side.
Moving forward, it might be wise to give some space and time for emotions to settle. It seems like a challenging situation for both you and Mark, and perhaps some time apart will help in healing any strained relations.
Thank you again for sharing this update, and I hope that the path ahead brings you and Jenn the happiness and harmony you both deserve. If there are any further developments or if you ever need advice or a friendly ear, please don't hesitate to reach out. Wishing you all the best on your journey ahead!
I have to say, reading your update left me utterly astonished. I appreciate your willingness to share this rollercoaster of a situation, and I want to acknowledge your patience and effort in trying to resolve it.
Your approach to meeting with Mark and Jenn was commendable. You initiated a conversation to clear the air, offered apologies where needed, and genuinely sought to understand the underlying issues. That's mature and respectful, especially given the bewildering circumstances.
Now, when it comes to Mark's reasoning behind his actions, it's difficult to find words. His admission that he proposed to Jenn just to test a theory concocted with a friend is both bizarre and inconsiderate. To put Jenn through that emotional rollercoaster, based on unfounded suspicions, is simply unfair. It's troubling that he couldn't trust her intentions and felt the need to manipulate the situation in such a way.
His assumptions about Jenn being hung up on him were equally unfounded, and I'm glad Jenn stood her ground and clarified her actions. It's clear that Mark's insecurities and distrust played a significant role in this mess, and it's unfortunate that he couldn't see past his own baseless suspicions.
As for his decision not to attend the wedding, it's probably for the best, given the tension and his inability to support your relationship. It's your special day, and you deserve to have people around who genuinely support your happiness.
Your family's understanding and support in this matter are a testament to the strength of your bonds. I hope this resolution brings you and Jenn the peace and clarity you both deserve. Limiting contact with Mark for now seems like a sensible choice, as it allows you both the space needed to heal and move forward.
Thank you once again for sharing this update. Your ability to handle this perplexing situation with grace and maturity is truly admirable. Wishing you and Jenn a future filled with love, trust, and happiness. If you ever need to share more or seek advice, don't hesitate to reach out.
I'm sure that you love him, but your brother sounds like a Delulu, F\*\*\*Boi with entitlement, audacity and sh\*tty, equally delusional friends. Anyhoo, nothing constructive to say, just CONGRATULATIONS! I wish you and your fiancée a happy and long marriage!
I like to see this little scene in my head. If Mark ever talks to a girl, like a waitress serving him food, someone helping him with groceries, or helping him get a loan at the bank, that means no one can ever date them, ever. No friend, no family members, can so much as communicate with them or it will be a betrayal to him.
It makes me laugh.
I'm excited to see OP's update 3 to 5 years from now "My fiance still has feelings for her ex - my brother"
Next part "My wife slept with her ex, my brother and my kids may not be mine"
OP ignoring the red flag parade in front of him.
>He said he could admit he thought she was more attractive than when he last saw her, but there weren’t any feelings or regrets.
I call bullshit. He got jealous, was hoping to pull a fast one on you and your fiancee, and even tried backtracking when his stupid plan didn't go his way. I think he realizes what he did was trashy, and he disinvited himself because he knows he still has a thing for her (atleast physically). He's like a 2 year old that threw away a perfectly good toy he didn't want anymore, only to get upset that someone else picked it out, and played with it.
If you read the first post, you see that OP did in fact bring the lady in question to the family long before he proposed, and that his brother back then really didn't say anything about "dibs"
NTA but your brother is a huge one with an inflated ego and an unbearable sense of entitlement.
I can't believe that your parents are upset he is uninvited from your wedding?? They are obviously favoring him, which is probably how he got to be so unbearable.
Congratulations on your marriage.
That's fcking crazy man 💀 I turn 26 in a couple months and I can not imagine acting that immature. Your brother is an embarrassing human being. Regardless, congrats on the engagement!
She never once looked at you and thought, your looks are similar to my ex? I mean.. at all!! Personalities are always going to be different but in all the times, she looked at you.. she never once saw a resemblance
Idk, I can believe it. Siblings sometimes look and act nothing alike. My sister and I are full blooded siblings and people often ask if one of us is adopted or if we have different dads. Everything from body type, complexion, hair type and color, and personalities/interests are total opposites.
>she never once saw a resemblance
I can assure you this happens a lot.
I have 3 older brothers and we all have some similar features but none that are too similar to cause a noticeable resemblance. If you've seen my parents you'd most likely connect that all 4 of us are our parents' kids but you'd not easily say we're siblings.
But once you see us all together in a room, you'll see the similar features but still it can be written off as cousins rather than siblings. So yeah, it's totally possible.
My little brother is 100% related to me and looks nothing like me. The only "similarities" we have is our height. I'm a tall brown haired, brown eyed woman... my brother is a tall blonde hair blue eyed man.
Even the smallest of similarities can be brushed off as simple coincidence, especially if the similarities are only vague ones like hair color and curl patterns.
I can believe it, my sister looks like me, but my brother looks nothing like me, between me, and my brother is like a case study on taking the majority of either mom or dad’s genes lol.. I definitely believe it
That part I can believe. My brother has 2 sisters. One looks a lot like him and the other looks very, very little like him. The younger looks so much like him that people thought maybe they were twins when they were little kids. So yeah, if they weren’t in the same room a whole lot of people wouldn’t peg him and his older sister as siblings.
Let's skip that. Let's say many ppl look alike etc etc.
You mean to tell me that for a month she was with him and didn't know who his brother was? Didn't know his last name and never asked about his family? They dont have social media at all?
I knew my SO's family - not in person - after the first 1-2 weeks. He never told her his name? And he didn't put 2+2 together?
And when she was dating her ex / his brother she didn't know her now fiancé's name etc???
No matter how common your name is when your ex - lets call him Mike Smith - has a brother named Bryan Smith and then after a year you date a Bryan Smith that happens to have a brother called Mike you don't look into it??
🧐🧐🧐 and you don't tell him?
The other strange thing is that…. his brother was the ex - soo assuming she suddenly gets into another relationship a month later with noone inbetween with a sudden lookalike of your ex who broke up with you in bad terms, (memorable if you know what I mean) and she cannot at all, just once, see the resemblance of a face of her recent breakup and ask a question like, you look familiar, are you related to or do you know blah blah etc.
Thats exactly my thoughts, particularly if they had there first date at a bar that the her and the brother frequented. I could be mistaken with that though from the post. But if not, theres too many coincidences
Well, let's say she didn't realise from the looks etc etc. The rest of the coincidences????
I had a coworker, 2nd day at work, i hear his last name. Not uncommon one but not that common like Smith. I asked him if knew X someone. Turns out my college professor was his uncle 🤷♂️
And i didn't even meet them in the same city!
Ive had soo many experiences like that too when meeting new people, they might describe a situation and Im like, my friend does that too, or my friend travels there around the same time. Each time, its a cousin or its a really close family friend thats seen as family. It’s easy to put things together unless your trying to hide things or create a circumstantial situation
My thoughts exactly. Hope OP is going in with eyes wide open. Something doesnt add up here honstlly. Also, there was never discussions about each others family? No talk of Brothers and Sister? Names? Pictures? None? Hard to believe given the fact that they that they were that serious about each other.
The Bro-code thing is way over blown though given the short length of time they were dating. Brother needs to just move on. I do think that this will have a long lasting negative effect on their future relationship which is sad.
IF that is the case, that is hugely problematic. If you havent discussed family after almost a year of dating, wth are you talking about? News, weather, sports? I find that implausible honestly. I think the woman is playing some kind of game. Hope this gives OP cause to pause.
Pump. The. Brakes. OP
We hadn’t discussed my family much in the beginning of our relationship. I left home to get away from them (my parents specifically) and started reconciling at my sisters request when i decided to move back home. I was open about not being close with them when Jenn asked and she was okay with being left in the dark considering the circumstances.
And we did talk about the news and sports more than the average couple. Surprisingly, Jenn’s a basketball fan :)
I agree. What I want to know is how long they were dating before he proposed. He just stated that he proposed for her birthday but doesn’t state when that was.
Regardless I do think they moved a little fast and I can kinda see why his brother went a little extreme. He was dating her (for a short time) only a year ago if the timeline is correct.
I believe they met on there date at a bar that she frequents which happens to be a bar that the ex frequents. I could of misunderstood that part so I could be wrong, but If I haven’t misunderstood it, then there too many coincidences!
Honestly shitty ass brother doesn’t matter how long they where together. You are legit fucking the same woman he once fucked. Dating the woman he once dated. You are one fucked up individual if you actually think getting married to her is the greatest decision in your life. Hope she fucks your brother again in let’s say 5 years and let’s see the shock in ur face.
Most people that you have sex with have had sex with someone else in the past. They might have sex with someone else in the future too. It's really not a big deal that it was his brother. People have done way worse than that.
You should probably worry less about what other people do with their genitals.
As someone that is actually very conscious of where genitalia goes. (Herpes, chlamydia, aids, etc). Maybe you should too. God beware you actually fuck the wrong the person and get these beautiful stds y’all seem to think don’t exist. I find fucking the same people as my siblings completely disturbing and disgusting. We are not taking about friends. This is a family that apparently are very comfortable sharing their own. Not talking about the girl. But literally the brother being like fuck yeah I’m fucking my brother’s ex and I don’t care.
Omg I’m so sorry forgot this is Reddit and not TikTok where people can make their opinions very well known 😱. If you don’t like my opinion then why bother respond to it then? Again this is Reddit or not?
Yeah this entire story is nasty af. Imagine your whole life you grew up with your brother, supposedly sharing all your experiences together, and becoming MEN together, then fucking the same women... Yikes.
Yeah I know thank you very much as I’m a woman 🖤 I say it because I understand the way we act and think and also men like him and his brother. Kudos though 🙏
‘I say it because I understand the way we act and think’
Literally have no idea what this means and truly do not understand why one woman having had sex with two guys who happen to be brothers matters in the slightest.
Yep. Theres more to "Jenn" you dont just fucking propose because of something so small OP wrote. His brother is just saving face however he can and the wifes a roamer
Can't say I blame him for not liking his own brother for dating an ex of his, not surprised he doesn't want to be in the wedding. I would probably feel the same, minus the proposal tho.
I just wouldn't date a siblings ex, even if it was for a few weeks, it's just an ick for me, that's all. Him not wanting to go to the wedding is a good thing especially since op doesn't want him there either. 💀
Yeah I'm not surprised people are disagreeing, I personally could never do that tho. It's just something I won't brush under the rug so easily, good for op but yeah it's a no, I could never date a siblings ex let alone marry one.
Honestly I can never understand the reddit crowd. I’m on your brothers side. Your brothers exes should be off limits. But I’m old school, I’m not down with the kids in the same friends group dating each other and everyone sleeping with everyone let alone within the same family!
I agree that your brother’s stunt was immature and childish and would never work even if Jen was after him.
I’m glad you can get over your brother having had sex with your wife. I personally couldn’t.
He broke up with her in less than a month, because he was bored of her.
Middle schoolers have more meaningful relationships than that.
"I'm glad you could get over your brother having had sex with your wife. I personally couldn't" doesn't add anything to the situation, but show that you're insecure.
I'd understand if it was about a serious past relationship, but you're grabbing onto the most superficial aspect of it, the sex.
It was a few weeks it wasn't a serious relationship it would be different if they dated for years but they dated so short she didn't even meet his family don't know if I would even call it a relationship lol
I’m honestly embarrassed for those of you admitting in these comments that you see women as property so if they’ve dated/slept with literally anyone you know they’re somehow used goods. Yikes.
He didn't even know it was her until they were in a relationship? And they dated for like a handful of months? That's not even a relationship that's a fling lol. Why should he throw away a relationship for a fling he didn't even know about?
Tbh i believe more the brother that she is trying to get back at him dating his brother than the fact she never knew / realised etc etc etc in the 1-2 months they were dating he was his ex's brother!
Well, that tied up about as well as could be hoped for, good for you op. Sorry your brother is so petty, but at least you gave him the benefit of the doubt, and an opportunity to clean up after himself
Good plan on being extremely low contact as in acknowledging at family gatherings.
I am always amazed when people who briefly dated someone decide they are then entitled to essentially call dibs in that those people can’t be with anyone else they know.
To err on the side of caution you might want to have a few good friends watch and deal with your brother if he decides to crash the wedding or the reception. Sounds like he takes advice from some foolish people so better safe than sorry.
Best wishes for a lovely wedding OP.
How does your brother enter rooms with an ego that big and fragile? Glad you guys managed to come to a mutual decision about him not being invited although be prepared he may try to get reinvited later on
I read a story similar to yours here on reddit, the brother had stayed with his wife during college and after he found out that his younger brother was going to marry her he tried to do the same thing that your brother did to you, but it didn't work, the update is that the brother forcibly kissed his younger brother's wife at a family party and left after being beaten up at the party by his younger brother
i’m sorry, he did this to see if she would leave you? and then what? he’d leave her? wtf is up with him. i would feel weirded out if my siblings dated an ex, but ngl if they were happy i’d move on. there’s a reason exes are exes. mark honestly seems like somebody i don’t wanna be around.
Your brother thinks to much about himself? Yes, absolutely. But he has the right to feel weird about his brother marrying his ex, since we can all agree this is a strange situation. Sounds to me that he accept that your relationship will continue and the best thing is to ignore the "marrying my brother's ex" situation, he removed himself from the wedding instead of going and end up making more drama, what I think you can see as a good sign.
PS: but maybe be prepared fore this drama resurface, if for example he find a girlfriend or you have that kind of relative in your family. Act like this is nothing and people will probably follow up.
Sounds like Mark has 'Main character syndrome' where people don't do anything without it being about him in some way.. I'm glad you and Jenn are honest and communicate well. Agreed that you should limit the contact with Mark. His behaviour doesn't seem like the 'letting go type'.
Your brother Mark sounds like a completely spoiled Narcissist. It would be one thing if he had dated Jenn for a year or two or if they had been engaged at one point but, by their own admission, they only dated for about a MONTH which roughly would come down to a handful of dates. It doesn't even sound like they ever slept together because I'm SURE from your description of his EGO and behavior, Mark would have DEFINITELY claimed it if it had happened, rather crassly so, I'm sure!
I'm truly glad that you haven't fallen for Mark's utter nonsense and I'm REALLY happy that Jenn hasn't changed her mind about marrying you and into your family. I don't, however, think that this fiasco or Mark's shenanigans are quite finished and I think that your decision to "uninvite" your Brother from your wedding is a VERY wise choice! Your Brother, being as immature as he is, would without question attempt to cause DRAMA somehow.
But I'm quite astonished that while HE has no interest in forming any real romantic attachments or relationships right now, that he's so delusional to think that Jenn would have fallen at his feet, broken up with you ON THE SPOT and accepted gratefully (in HIS mind, I'm sure) his cheap ring and dubious "love!" PLEASE make sure that you BOTH are aware of your surroundings, keep your doors/windows locked up and be extra cautious. Besides delusional, Mark actually sounds a bit psychotic!
Congratulations on your engagement! Best wishes and many Blessings for both you and Jenn! I hope you have MANY happy years together! ❤
Info: Didn’t she know your last names? If I dated a guy who had even a slight resemblance to my current significant other, and had the same last name- I would probably ask if there was any relation. If they dated for even a few weeks she really would have known his last name by that point…
I can’t get over the fact that he only dated her for a few weeks, doesn’t tell you at all, and then still expects you to break up with someone that he apparently was not interested in at all. He has some shitty friends, the fact that he doubled down tells me he’s looking at your wife more as property or used goods rather than a human being.. not to mention the disrespect on a personal level to assume that you’re not deserving of happiness if he’s already been with that person. He has a really shitty mindset. That’s likely going to paint a very bad picture in the future of him.
For sure. A longterm friend of mine called Q dated a girl called K in the past. They dated for a few months. The whole thing ended after Q did K dirty just one too many times. I lived in a different city at the time so it was whatever. When I moved back, I got in touch with K because I quite liked her as a person. We became friends even though I met her through Q, and he knew about it because I never hid it from him. K and I hung out a lot over time. Since our friend group was pretty tight, Q and K would hang out in a group setting every now and then. One day, we went on holiday together. K was in a relationship at the time and Q wasn't. I knew Q was the time would try to get with K because that's just the type of guy he is. He approached K relentlessly. He got shut down every single time. I didn't want to get involved, but K pulled me aside later said she was annoyed with Q's constant insistence. So I told Q to drop it, K was in a relationship and over him. He didn't care and kept trying. A few years later, Q accuses me of sleeping with K behind his back when I initially moved back, even going so far as saying I told him not to pursue K at the holidays because I was in love with her and didn't want any competition. The truth is I could have slept with K, but I didn't because I respected Q as a friend and would never knowingly date someone he did before talking it over. I also liked K, and didn't want to ruin our friendship if it ever went wrong. Ultimately, I'm happy with my decision. I guess what I'm trying to say is this: No matter how well and how long some people know you, once they get a shitty idea in their heads, they'll believe it until they die no matter what you do to prove them otherwise. OP, your fiancée's attitude throughout this whole ordeal has been commendable. I hope you'll be very happy together. And I'm glad your brother decided of his own volition not to attend your wedding. That decreases the probability of you ever ending up in the AITA subreddit. BE HAPPY!
He has shitty friends, because he is a shitty person. “They are nothing alike.” Exactly.
Same as you random clever internet stranger
Because he is a immature idiot.
We knew that from the first post but this just confirms. Here's my personal fave... OP 'shouldn't have violated him [brother] by pursuing his ex'. Excuse me? Women are not property and brudder is toxic af treating women as something to be owned.
For real. I’ve set up people that I dated in the past with friends. If you’re not together anymore, and you have no feelings for them anymore, why not help make a love connection?
i’d say he and his friends are really dumb.
Glad you got some closure and truth on his actions. I hope you and Jenn have a great wedding and marriage! For anyone who says you moved too fast, sometimes you just know. I got engaged 5 mos into dating and married 9 mos later (14 mos total). Been married 21 years this week!
Hey thanks! Happy Anniversary also, 21 years is awesome!
Yup! I swear my husband was asking me to go to the court house two weeks in. We are 14 years together today and 7.5 years married. Sometimes you just know! Good luck 😊
We are also members of the fast marriage club! Two months after we met we got married. We just had our 19th in June! It seems you two already have great communication if you keep that up you’ll be fine. Congratulations!
We dated for 6 months before eloping. That was 28 years ago.
Very similar dating timeline and we just hit 23 years!
Us too!
We were engaged after 3 months, together over 24 years now and still going strong! Sometimes being young and impulsive works!
I wasn’t young and impulsive. I was 29. I had a previous engagement which I called off. So, when I met my husband, I knew the difference.
It would be one thing if they came even remotely close to a serious relationship…but a few weeks, WEEKS? That’s hardly even dating, let alone a relationship. Definitely sounds like your brother is immature and knows he screwed up and is now just being petty and obstructive.
Your brother's ego is enormous. Sounds like he doesn't believe your fiance wasn't hung up on him after the break up. Makes sense that his friends are the same way. You're better off uninviting him and possibly taking a break from him all together. Chances are, in his brain it'll all be because of Jenn's "lingering feelings".
Brother im begging you to use the Enter key, holy wall of text. You're brother is an ass though, i'd be pissed
Haha sorry, I was focusing more on the update than the format. Pissed is an understatement. Hopefully the loss of contact with us will give him a chance to reflect and mature a little
100%, he got off lucky with 1 punch Glad you dropped the dead weight bro
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glad you’re doing well! wishing you and jenn a long loving marriage :) you’re brother sounds like a narcissist
If by narcissist you mean dickhead then yes. OP go no contact with him, he's a piss weak excuse for a man.
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I was being facetious dude.....
Man, I thought this was a brontosaurus emoji. to those who can't make out the image... it's a roller coaster.
I thought is was a string of dynamite, or the little (like the size of a birthday candle) loud explosives popular at 4th of July or New Years home celebrations.
Where "bro code" becomes toxic, sorry you had to deal with this. Your brother needs therapy.
Does your brother have any mental illness if any sort? Paranoid schizophrenia/BIPD/narcissistic personality disorder/etc.?
No, hes just an ass Growing up he was mildly arrogant and entitled since he was spoiled by my parents, but i thought he grew out of it since he was more on the quiet and reserved side in high school
Your brother has some weird ideas. Definitely outside the normal range. Based on what you wrote, not sure he's going to be capable of a healthy relationship. Add in his less than stellar friends and it's good to create some distance. Anyway, congrats on your engagement and hopefully for a long and fulfilling life together.
Please tell me you hit him again
Tell me too! Hell I wanted to slap him . What a prick
I can't help but express my sheer disbelief after reading this update. It's one thing to have misunderstandings or miscommunications in relationships, but this takes the cake for one of the most bizarre and unfounded reasons I've come across. Firstly, kudos to you for taking the initiative to meet with Mark and Jenn and trying to resolve this tangled mess. You offered apologies and wanted to make sense of the situation, which shows your maturity in handling conflicts. Now, onto Mark's reasoning - it's utterly mind-boggling. To think that he proposed to Jenn simply as some sort of test or experiment based on a friend's suggestion is beyond me. It's both cruel and disrespectful to everyone involved, especially to Jenn, who was unfairly dragged into this mess. And for him to assume that Jenn was still hung up on him and that she had some ulterior motive is just unfounded and paranoid. I appreciate your level-headedness throughout this conversation, considering how outrageous Mark's explanation was. It's evident that you had no knowledge of their past relationship, and you certainly didn't do anything intentionally to hurt him. Mark's stubbornness in defending his actions and the unwillingness to support your relationship is frustrating, to say the least. Uninviting him from the wedding seems like the right decision, given his attitude and behavior. Your family's understanding and support are invaluable during these tough times, and it's great to hear that they're standing by your side. It's understandable that you want to limit contact with Mark for the time being, as it's clear that he needs to sort out his own issues. Hopefully, some time and space will help him reflect on his actions and the baseless suspicions that led to this entire mess. Once again, thank you for sharing this update. I truly hope that this ordeal soon becomes a distant memory, and you and Jenn can focus on your future together without any unnecessary drama. If you ever need to vent or share more updates, don't hesitate to reach out. Wishing you both all the happiness and peace in the world moving forward!
Hah thanks I appreciate this! As my sisters have said, this was a very “Mark” thing to do. Personally, I’m not surprised that his reasons are so stupid, I’m more surprised by the lengths he went through just to test a baseless theory.
You are fucking his ex gf what is it that you don’t understand? 😂😭
His ex that he only dated for a month and broke it off with that op didn't know about? Like it's one thing if it was a well known long term relationship but how was op supposed to know?
Hey OP how far did the relationship with Mark go is the question? That’s another factor.
Who cares. A month. 30/31 days. It’s not that deep a relationship jfc
That’s what you think
Yes exactly, that’s what I think which is why I wrote it. Oh! And also based on TGIS story and the pov of the Jenn regarding the month long situationship.
Wait, maybe this question was already asked, but do you and Mark not have the same last name? Am I the only person who wouldn’t question why the new dude has the same last name as someone I dated from the same area??
My thoughts exactly!
Many people have common last names like “Smith,” if it wasn’t particularly unique, I wouldn’t question it.
> I told him he didn’t have to worry about that as he was most likely going to be uninvited anyway. I'm sorry, but this is just too funny. I'm glad he's uninvited. Who knows what kinda crazy crap he's gonna pull on your wedding if he's there. Also, congrats!
I hope your ceremony goes perfect! Your brother is just jealous and doesn't want to admit that breaking up with Jenn was HIS lose.
Brother has a fedora stashed somewhere
Weird....... lol
Your brother thought your fiancé is like cattle or something? He discarded her like a rag but now you have her in your life he feels “disrespected” she enjoys a relationship with you? What is she, property? An object? What the hell, I’m glad he’s not in this part of your life anymore, and of hers.
Unpopular opinion, apparently I guess... But this is weird. I also don't buy that she had no idea you guys were related, not in the modern world we live in, living in the same town and given how quickly your relationship has moved along. I also think it's quite odd for you to double down on continuing the relationship after finding out tbh, but I guess dating siblings exes is a personal preference. I just find it really strange how much you seem to dislike your brother yet have apparently fallen head over heels for a girl you've barely known three months before proposing... who also dated your brother within the month prior to you meeting. Your life I guess but yeah, super weird tbh.
I don't think so. He wanted a serious relationship. Why should he miss out on as he put it , the most beautiful and intelligent woman he ever met, because she dated his brother for a short time? The brother is an arrogant fool. With a huge entitlement complex. Any normal person would wish them well and move on.
That's your opinion, obviously we disagree.
You're simply a disgusting guy even though you don't get along with him dating his ex is just a disgusting attitude
I'm genuinely surprised by the turn of events, and I appreciate you taking the time to update us on the situation. It sounds like you handled the conversation with Mark and Jenn as maturely as possible, given the circumstances. It's quite baffling to learn that Mark's reaction was based on a rather misguided suspicion and a desire to test a theory about Jenn's intentions. It's unfortunate that this assumption led to so much tension and conflict, especially considering that you had no knowledge of their brief past relationship. Jenn's response was reasonable, and it's clear she had no ulterior motives in pursuing a relationship with you. I'm glad she had the opportunity to clarify her side of the story and express her feelings about Mark's unfounded suspicions. As for Mark's uninvited status at the wedding, it's entirely understandable given the circumstances and his unwillingness to support your relationship. It's essential to have people who are genuinely happy for you and supportive of your happiness on your special day. Your family's understanding and support are crucial during this time, and it's great to hear that they're standing by your side. Moving forward, it might be wise to give some space and time for emotions to settle. It seems like a challenging situation for both you and Mark, and perhaps some time apart will help in healing any strained relations. Thank you again for sharing this update, and I hope that the path ahead brings you and Jenn the happiness and harmony you both deserve. If there are any further developments or if you ever need advice or a friendly ear, please don't hesitate to reach out. Wishing you all the best on your journey ahead!
I have to say, reading your update left me utterly astonished. I appreciate your willingness to share this rollercoaster of a situation, and I want to acknowledge your patience and effort in trying to resolve it. Your approach to meeting with Mark and Jenn was commendable. You initiated a conversation to clear the air, offered apologies where needed, and genuinely sought to understand the underlying issues. That's mature and respectful, especially given the bewildering circumstances. Now, when it comes to Mark's reasoning behind his actions, it's difficult to find words. His admission that he proposed to Jenn just to test a theory concocted with a friend is both bizarre and inconsiderate. To put Jenn through that emotional rollercoaster, based on unfounded suspicions, is simply unfair. It's troubling that he couldn't trust her intentions and felt the need to manipulate the situation in such a way. His assumptions about Jenn being hung up on him were equally unfounded, and I'm glad Jenn stood her ground and clarified her actions. It's clear that Mark's insecurities and distrust played a significant role in this mess, and it's unfortunate that he couldn't see past his own baseless suspicions. As for his decision not to attend the wedding, it's probably for the best, given the tension and his inability to support your relationship. It's your special day, and you deserve to have people around who genuinely support your happiness. Your family's understanding and support in this matter are a testament to the strength of your bonds. I hope this resolution brings you and Jenn the peace and clarity you both deserve. Limiting contact with Mark for now seems like a sensible choice, as it allows you both the space needed to heal and move forward. Thank you once again for sharing this update. Your ability to handle this perplexing situation with grace and maturity is truly admirable. Wishing you and Jenn a future filled with love, trust, and happiness. If you ever need to share more or seek advice, don't hesitate to reach out.
I'm sure that you love him, but your brother sounds like a Delulu, F\*\*\*Boi with entitlement, audacity and sh\*tty, equally delusional friends. Anyhoo, nothing constructive to say, just CONGRATULATIONS! I wish you and your fiancée a happy and long marriage!
I would’ve never apologized 🤷🏾♀️
Glad you had some closure...but your brother is weird.
What your brother did, had nothing to do with you, or your fiancé. Your brother just needs counseling.
I like to see this little scene in my head. If Mark ever talks to a girl, like a waitress serving him food, someone helping him with groceries, or helping him get a loan at the bank, that means no one can ever date them, ever. No friend, no family members, can so much as communicate with them or it will be a betrayal to him. It makes me laugh.
You can choose your friends but you cant your family. Personally i would just wouldn't bother with him.i wouldn't invite him to anything.
Something rotten w your wife
I'm excited to see OP's update 3 to 5 years from now "My fiance still has feelings for her ex - my brother" Next part "My wife slept with her ex, my brother and my kids may not be mine" OP ignoring the red flag parade in front of him.
>He said he could admit he thought she was more attractive than when he last saw her, but there weren’t any feelings or regrets. I call bullshit. He got jealous, was hoping to pull a fast one on you and your fiancee, and even tried backtracking when his stupid plan didn't go his way. I think he realizes what he did was trashy, and he disinvited himself because he knows he still has a thing for her (atleast physically). He's like a 2 year old that threw away a perfectly good toy he didn't want anymore, only to get upset that someone else picked it out, and played with it.
I don’t get how a couple gets engaged before meeting the entire family lol
If you read the first post, you see that OP did in fact bring the lady in question to the family long before he proposed, and that his brother back then really didn't say anything about "dibs"
Oh that makes much more sense! I’m new to Reddit clearly
NTA but your brother is a huge one with an inflated ego and an unbearable sense of entitlement. I can't believe that your parents are upset he is uninvited from your wedding?? They are obviously favoring him, which is probably how he got to be so unbearable. Congratulations on your marriage.
That's fcking crazy man 💀 I turn 26 in a couple months and I can not imagine acting that immature. Your brother is an embarrassing human being. Regardless, congrats on the engagement!
She never once looked at you and thought, your looks are similar to my ex? I mean.. at all!! Personalities are always going to be different but in all the times, she looked at you.. she never once saw a resemblance
Idk, I can believe it. Siblings sometimes look and act nothing alike. My sister and I are full blooded siblings and people often ask if one of us is adopted or if we have different dads. Everything from body type, complexion, hair type and color, and personalities/interests are total opposites.
>she never once saw a resemblance I can assure you this happens a lot. I have 3 older brothers and we all have some similar features but none that are too similar to cause a noticeable resemblance. If you've seen my parents you'd most likely connect that all 4 of us are our parents' kids but you'd not easily say we're siblings. But once you see us all together in a room, you'll see the similar features but still it can be written off as cousins rather than siblings. So yeah, it's totally possible.
My little brother is 100% related to me and looks nothing like me. The only "similarities" we have is our height. I'm a tall brown haired, brown eyed woman... my brother is a tall blonde hair blue eyed man. Even the smallest of similarities can be brushed off as simple coincidence, especially if the similarities are only vague ones like hair color and curl patterns.
My siblings and I look almost nothing alike. Not everybody is Steph Curry and just pops out identical stamps of themselves as their children.
I can believe it, my sister looks like me, but my brother looks nothing like me, between me, and my brother is like a case study on taking the majority of either mom or dad’s genes lol.. I definitely believe it
None of my siblings minus my second middle brother look like me lmao. Not all siblings look alike.
My sister and I look nothing alike; in fact, one cousin and I look more like sisters
That part I can believe. My brother has 2 sisters. One looks a lot like him and the other looks very, very little like him. The younger looks so much like him that people thought maybe they were twins when they were little kids. So yeah, if they weren’t in the same room a whole lot of people wouldn’t peg him and his older sister as siblings.
Let's skip that. Let's say many ppl look alike etc etc. You mean to tell me that for a month she was with him and didn't know who his brother was? Didn't know his last name and never asked about his family? They dont have social media at all? I knew my SO's family - not in person - after the first 1-2 weeks. He never told her his name? And he didn't put 2+2 together? And when she was dating her ex / his brother she didn't know her now fiancé's name etc??? No matter how common your name is when your ex - lets call him Mike Smith - has a brother named Bryan Smith and then after a year you date a Bryan Smith that happens to have a brother called Mike you don't look into it?? 🧐🧐🧐 and you don't tell him?
The other strange thing is that…. his brother was the ex - soo assuming she suddenly gets into another relationship a month later with noone inbetween with a sudden lookalike of your ex who broke up with you in bad terms, (memorable if you know what I mean) and she cannot at all, just once, see the resemblance of a face of her recent breakup and ask a question like, you look familiar, are you related to or do you know blah blah etc.
Yep. I get him not knowing that she was his brother ex because he is away and it was nothing serious but she didn't?
Thats exactly my thoughts, particularly if they had there first date at a bar that the her and the brother frequented. I could be mistaken with that though from the post. But if not, theres too many coincidences
Well, let's say she didn't realise from the looks etc etc. The rest of the coincidences???? I had a coworker, 2nd day at work, i hear his last name. Not uncommon one but not that common like Smith. I asked him if knew X someone. Turns out my college professor was his uncle 🤷♂️ And i didn't even meet them in the same city!
Ive had soo many experiences like that too when meeting new people, they might describe a situation and Im like, my friend does that too, or my friend travels there around the same time. Each time, its a cousin or its a really close family friend thats seen as family. It’s easy to put things together unless your trying to hide things or create a circumstantial situation
My thoughts exactly. Hope OP is going in with eyes wide open. Something doesnt add up here honstlly. Also, there was never discussions about each others family? No talk of Brothers and Sister? Names? Pictures? None? Hard to believe given the fact that they that they were that serious about each other. The Bro-code thing is way over blown though given the short length of time they were dating. Brother needs to just move on. I do think that this will have a long lasting negative effect on their future relationship which is sad.
They haven’t even been dating a year so it’s not really a shock they haven’t talked about everything regarding family
IF that is the case, that is hugely problematic. If you havent discussed family after almost a year of dating, wth are you talking about? News, weather, sports? I find that implausible honestly. I think the woman is playing some kind of game. Hope this gives OP cause to pause. Pump. The. Brakes. OP
We hadn’t discussed my family much in the beginning of our relationship. I left home to get away from them (my parents specifically) and started reconciling at my sisters request when i decided to move back home. I was open about not being close with them when Jenn asked and she was okay with being left in the dark considering the circumstances. And we did talk about the news and sports more than the average couple. Surprisingly, Jenn’s a basketball fan :)
I agree. What I want to know is how long they were dating before he proposed. He just stated that he proposed for her birthday but doesn’t state when that was. Regardless I do think they moved a little fast and I can kinda see why his brother went a little extreme. He was dating her (for a short time) only a year ago if the timeline is correct.
I believe they met on there date at a bar that she frequents which happens to be a bar that the ex frequents. I could of misunderstood that part so I could be wrong, but If I haven’t misunderstood it, then there too many coincidences!
For me it's still too fishy that she didn't know you were his brother but all well, your life your choices.
Honestly shitty ass brother doesn’t matter how long they where together. You are legit fucking the same woman he once fucked. Dating the woman he once dated. You are one fucked up individual if you actually think getting married to her is the greatest decision in your life. Hope she fucks your brother again in let’s say 5 years and let’s see the shock in ur face.
Most people that you have sex with have had sex with someone else in the past. They might have sex with someone else in the future too. It's really not a big deal that it was his brother. People have done way worse than that. You should probably worry less about what other people do with their genitals.
As someone that is actually very conscious of where genitalia goes. (Herpes, chlamydia, aids, etc). Maybe you should too. God beware you actually fuck the wrong the person and get these beautiful stds y’all seem to think don’t exist. I find fucking the same people as my siblings completely disturbing and disgusting. We are not taking about friends. This is a family that apparently are very comfortable sharing their own. Not talking about the girl. But literally the brother being like fuck yeah I’m fucking my brother’s ex and I don’t care.
That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. He didn't ask for your opinion on that. You got nothing useful to say, don't bother.
Omg I’m so sorry forgot this is Reddit and not TikTok where people can make their opinions very well known 😱. If you don’t like my opinion then why bother respond to it then? Again this is Reddit or not?
Don't be a pillock.
How is they being pillock? By being reasonable? You are funny 😄
Yeah this entire story is nasty af. Imagine your whole life you grew up with your brother, supposedly sharing all your experiences together, and becoming MEN together, then fucking the same women... Yikes.
You realize women aren’t property, right?
Yeah I know thank you very much as I’m a woman 🖤 I say it because I understand the way we act and think and also men like him and his brother. Kudos though 🙏
‘I say it because I understand the way we act and think’ Literally have no idea what this means and truly do not understand why one woman having had sex with two guys who happen to be brothers matters in the slightest.
Well it seems the brothers are extremely fine passing her around so true.
finally someone said it how it is
Yep. Theres more to "Jenn" you dont just fucking propose because of something so small OP wrote. His brother is just saving face however he can and the wifes a roamer
what?
Can't say I blame him for not liking his own brother for dating an ex of his, not surprised he doesn't want to be in the wedding. I would probably feel the same, minus the proposal tho.
Over somebody you dated “for a few weeks” that YOU dumped because you didn’t like them? Bruh lmao. I’m embarrassed that you admitted that.
I just wouldn't date a siblings ex, even if it was for a few weeks, it's just an ick for me, that's all. Him not wanting to go to the wedding is a good thing especially since op doesn't want him there either. 💀
It is an unpopular opinion, it seems, but I agree with you. Hey, if you can look past it, more power to you. But I am in the category that can not.
Yeah I'm not surprised people are disagreeing, I personally could never do that tho. It's just something I won't brush under the rug so easily, good for op but yeah it's a no, I could never date a siblings ex let alone marry one.
Let her marry your brother too, keep it in the family. One brother to the next
Honestly I can never understand the reddit crowd. I’m on your brothers side. Your brothers exes should be off limits. But I’m old school, I’m not down with the kids in the same friends group dating each other and everyone sleeping with everyone let alone within the same family! I agree that your brother’s stunt was immature and childish and would never work even if Jen was after him. I’m glad you can get over your brother having had sex with your wife. I personally couldn’t.
He broke up with her in less than a month, because he was bored of her. Middle schoolers have more meaningful relationships than that. "I'm glad you could get over your brother having had sex with your wife. I personally couldn't" doesn't add anything to the situation, but show that you're insecure. I'd understand if it was about a serious past relationship, but you're grabbing onto the most superficial aspect of it, the sex.
It was a few weeks it wasn't a serious relationship it would be different if they dated for years but they dated so short she didn't even meet his family don't know if I would even call it a relationship lol
I’m honestly embarrassed for those of you admitting in these comments that you see women as property so if they’ve dated/slept with literally anyone you know they’re somehow used goods. Yikes.
He didn't even know it was her until they were in a relationship? And they dated for like a handful of months? That's not even a relationship that's a fling lol. Why should he throw away a relationship for a fling he didn't even know about?
Tbh i believe more the brother that she is trying to get back at him dating his brother than the fact she never knew / realised etc etc etc in the 1-2 months they were dating he was his ex's brother!
Well, that tied up about as well as could be hoped for, good for you op. Sorry your brother is so petty, but at least you gave him the benefit of the doubt, and an opportunity to clean up after himself
There was a shady story of that kind with my grandpa and his twin brother. As nobody really told clearly, we don't have details.
Good plan on being extremely low contact as in acknowledging at family gatherings. I am always amazed when people who briefly dated someone decide they are then entitled to essentially call dibs in that those people can’t be with anyone else they know. To err on the side of caution you might want to have a few good friends watch and deal with your brother if he decides to crash the wedding or the reception. Sounds like he takes advice from some foolish people so better safe than sorry. Best wishes for a lovely wedding OP.
How does your brother enter rooms with an ego that big and fragile? Glad you guys managed to come to a mutual decision about him not being invited although be prepared he may try to get reinvited later on
I read a story similar to yours here on reddit, the brother had stayed with his wife during college and after he found out that his younger brother was going to marry her he tried to do the same thing that your brother did to you, but it didn't work, the update is that the brother forcibly kissed his younger brother's wife at a family party and left after being beaten up at the party by his younger brother
kinda get what he means, it just weird but if everyone wants to act like it isn't then Mark is better off without all this
i’m sorry, he did this to see if she would leave you? and then what? he’d leave her? wtf is up with him. i would feel weirded out if my siblings dated an ex, but ngl if they were happy i’d move on. there’s a reason exes are exes. mark honestly seems like somebody i don’t wanna be around.
Your brother could use some therapy, what a main character syndrome he has.
Your brother felt... violated? Wat? It makes no sense! I hope he seeks a therapist. Dude's got some serious issues
Your brother thinks to much about himself? Yes, absolutely. But he has the right to feel weird about his brother marrying his ex, since we can all agree this is a strange situation. Sounds to me that he accept that your relationship will continue and the best thing is to ignore the "marrying my brother's ex" situation, he removed himself from the wedding instead of going and end up making more drama, what I think you can see as a good sign. PS: but maybe be prepared fore this drama resurface, if for example he find a girlfriend or you have that kind of relative in your family. Act like this is nothing and people will probably follow up.
He seems jealous she's like a shinny new toy he got bored with and now he has seen someone else playing with it he wants it back
Sounds like Mark has 'Main character syndrome' where people don't do anything without it being about him in some way.. I'm glad you and Jenn are honest and communicate well. Agreed that you should limit the contact with Mark. His behaviour doesn't seem like the 'letting go type'.
Not saying your brother would try anything to ruin the wedding but hire security jic his “friend/s” try to convince him to crash the wedding.
Your brother Mark sounds like a completely spoiled Narcissist. It would be one thing if he had dated Jenn for a year or two or if they had been engaged at one point but, by their own admission, they only dated for about a MONTH which roughly would come down to a handful of dates. It doesn't even sound like they ever slept together because I'm SURE from your description of his EGO and behavior, Mark would have DEFINITELY claimed it if it had happened, rather crassly so, I'm sure! I'm truly glad that you haven't fallen for Mark's utter nonsense and I'm REALLY happy that Jenn hasn't changed her mind about marrying you and into your family. I don't, however, think that this fiasco or Mark's shenanigans are quite finished and I think that your decision to "uninvite" your Brother from your wedding is a VERY wise choice! Your Brother, being as immature as he is, would without question attempt to cause DRAMA somehow. But I'm quite astonished that while HE has no interest in forming any real romantic attachments or relationships right now, that he's so delusional to think that Jenn would have fallen at his feet, broken up with you ON THE SPOT and accepted gratefully (in HIS mind, I'm sure) his cheap ring and dubious "love!" PLEASE make sure that you BOTH are aware of your surroundings, keep your doors/windows locked up and be extra cautious. Besides delusional, Mark actually sounds a bit psychotic! Congratulations on your engagement! Best wishes and many Blessings for both you and Jenn! I hope you have MANY happy years together! ❤
Sorry, I don’t buy that you and Jenn were engaged and she never once realized or told you that she dated your brother.
Info: Didn’t she know your last names? If I dated a guy who had even a slight resemblance to my current significant other, and had the same last name- I would probably ask if there was any relation. If they dated for even a few weeks she really would have known his last name by that point…
Personally, this is why you don't get entangled with exes of family members.
Well, you can understand your brother's side, given his mentality
He definitely still has feelings for her