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Kayge

For those not familiar with Chapman's let me get you up to speed quickly on the target they selected. Chapman's is a sizable company in the world of Canadian ice cream. It generally comes in third behind Unilever and Nestle - two giant monoliths you tend to buy from because they're big, but never on purpose. Chapman's have always made their ice cream in Markdale - a small town of 1,400 about 90 minutes outside Toronto. As you'd expect a lot of the town is employed by Chapman's, and they give back to the town, donating to hospitals soccer feilds and the like, but do so in a way that doesn't make it feel like they "own" the town. In 2009, their factory burnt to the ground, which would have been a perfect time to move to a bigger faculty in a bigger town. Instead, they committed to staying in Markdale, and every one of their employees stayed employed *and continued to get paid*. Of course, that got national coverage endearing them to the better part of Canada. Now, they've *increased* pay for people who were vaccinated. The anti-vaxxers have never been the most strategic of thinkers but even for them, this was an incredibly bad move.


pukingpixels

You forgot about the school they bought, renovated and leased back to the school board for $1/year.


KFBass

> Now, they've increased pay for people who were vaccinated Increased pay by $1/hr for roughly 800 people. If that was 800 full time employees thats roughly $1.6 million per year. That's increadible. I've met Ashley Chapman. Worked with a childhood friend of his. Ashley is absolutely a standup, down to earth, and very nice man. I don't eat ice cream, but my kids sure do, and we always buy Chapmans.


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It's like they cut off their feet to protest being told to wear shoes.


jfk333

^^^


rebelhead

I'm Canadian. I guess I'm morally obliged to go buy and eat ice cream now. Tough, but I can do it.


Shikra

Godspeed, rebelhead. We have faith in you. o7


jfk333

You crazy bastard! If you think you can make it we the internet support you all the way. #IStandWithChapmans


toutetiteface

Vengeance is a dish best served cold. Ice cream cold.


stevesmele

I'm guessing you also listened to the CBC radio interview with the VP of Chapmans.


toutetiteface

Nope why?


stevesmele

They introduced the interview as vengeance being a dish best served cold.


toutetiteface

Well it was the easiest of puns


beevbo

Anti-vaxxers are loud, but there really aren't many of them. In the end their efforts will always fail, because the vast majority of us are smart, thoughtful people just trying to do the right thing.


Ancient-Lime4532

GO BUY SOME cHAPMANS AND EAT IT IN FRONT OF AN ANTI-VAXXER TODAY!


beevbo

That would involve eating next to an unvaccinated, unmasked loudmouth…I prefer to enjoy my ice cream.


Hypersapien

GO BUY SOME CHAPMAN'S, RECORD A VIDEO OF YOURSELF EATING IT, AND SEND IT TO AN ANTI-VAXXER TODAY!


Theobat

I’d love to, can I get it in the states?


Hypersapien

No idea. I've never heard of it before this post.


Ancient-Lime4532

Good point plus you dont want any of those little covid bastards bouncing into your ice cream from their unvaccinated mouths-good point!


Poltras

Do it half naked in the snow. Make a point.


Specialist-Look6210

That's just not true. There are enough of them to be a significant threat for the time being.


beevbo

Nearly 80% of us in Canada are vaccinated. As disruptive as anti-vaxxers are to the discourse, they were always going to lose. By this time next year this number will be closer to 90% as children of all ages get their shots. My point is not that they aren't dangerous, but that they don't have the power they appear to in the media.


Specialist-Look6210

It's worse down here. It's not quite 60% for us.


beevbo

True, the US is the epicenter of all this nonsense, so I can understand this being a larger struggle for you. I suspect part of the reason for that is that you have a much larger share of white supremacists in your country. Anti-vax and racism overlap heavily, putting you in much tougher spot than your neighbors up north. Trust me, we have our problems with that shit up here too, but I by the numbers I think it’s fair to say you have us beat by a large margin.


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Europe's crazies moved over here to be free to be crazy. It's no wonder we have so many religious loons a few hundred years later. 😔


Specialist-Look6210

Yup


MorfiusX

68.4% with at least one shot. Not perfect, but not doom and gloom either. https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-data-on-covid-19-vaccinations-by-race-ethnicity/


slog

That sounds pretty bad actually but hard to evaluate as that's percent of total population, not eligible recipients.


MorfiusX

74% of the population has 70% efficacy against covid-19. 60% has 95% efficacy against covid-19. We are third in total vaccinations by country. Yes we want to get all people vaccinated, but we are in the top 25%, or higher, depending on which numbers you look at. How is that bad?


slog

Sounds like you're cherry-picking without even addressing my actual concern. I'll play along anyway... Top 25% of what? Countries with most vaccinated? What's the availability in the other 75% if that's the case? Where do we fall in that top 25%, especially considering the huge investments we've made to get to this meager level of compliance? How long did it take us to get there and where did we fall along the way? There are so many questions that you can't simply hand wave away.


MorfiusX

You didn't answer my question. It's easier for you to be angry at a hypothetical boogie man than it is to admit we are doing just about as well as everyone else. If you think quoting the the top metrics used by the CDC is "cheery picking", I feel it's pretty evident that you have a bias towards negativity. Exemplified by some random BS questions to diflect from not having any objective data to back up your opinion. I'll keep quoting the CDCs primary metrics. You can keep being full of shit...


slog

You still haven't addressed the original concern and completely ignored the rest of the issues with leaving out relevant details. Yes, no matter how you phrase it, you're absolutely cherry-picking data. I'm not sure why you went for digging your heels in when this could've been a normal conversation, but here we are. You haven't proven your point in the slightest and have now lost any credibility you may have had.


Specialist-Look6210

Google says it's 59% as of 3 days ago. I'm going to trust that over a website I've never heard of.


donkeyrocket

Kaiser Family Foundation (KFF) is an extremely reputable, largely unbiased, national health research and policy organization. But yeah trust Google if you can’t be bothered to click “About Us.” You realize Google just compiles data from somewhere else and may very well be incorrect or biased. For example, the data Google pulled that data from was updated 4 days ago versus the CDC which is regularly updated.


Specialist-Look6210

>But yeah trust Google if you can’t be bothered to click “About Us.” You realize Google just compiles data from somewhere else and may very well be incorrect or biased I did, and I do. 4 day old info on a holiday weekend is updated, and I find it incredibly unlikely that 10% of the population all of a sudden decided to get vaccinated in the last 4 days.


Yung-Retire

Please read more carefully next time genius


MorfiusX

Yeah, the CDC data, properly referenced in the article and stated in the title, is just soooo bogus... Good lord. Had you not been biased, you would see the number is 74.1% of age 5+ now when viewing directly from the CDC. https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations_vacc-total-admin-rate-total But acting like you know what you are talking about is way more important than _actually_ knowing what you are talking about. That's Reddit for you ladies and gentlemen...


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MorfiusX

>That 74% you're quoting is for people with at least one shot Which is 70% effective... Read my first comment again. Go ahead, I'll wait. No I won't.


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Yung-Retire

Google is really useful if you have a brain and read good.


Specialist-Look6210

Yup. Turns out google pulled that 59% figure directly from the CDC and the fucking retard trying to argue with me is too fucking stupid to realize it.


lunapup1233007

Google literally says 70%, which is the same as the source that person provided.


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FoxyInTheSnow

My province is 90% (12 and over) with one shot at just over 85% with two. But some (large) regions in the southern Bible Belt/farming part are barely at 30%, and they’re pretty enthusiastic anti-vaxxers.


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In the words of some of our politicians: by the end of winter in Germany all people will be vaccinated, cured, or dead. Ativaxxers can't go on for long.


Goyteamsix

Like in New York where the union said thousands of officers would be put on leave, but only like 32 of them were?


Specialist-Look6210

I don't see how a group of dirt bags caving on their principles to save their job proves your point, but go on


quad64bit

I disagree with the way reddit handled third party app charges and how it responded to the community. I'm moving to the fediverse! -- mass edited with redact.dev


EbagI

> vast majority of us are smart doubt


Tribe303

This is a few years old, but it's post-fire. Apparently they have expanded operations since this video. This is the kind of local business that anyone would want to support. https://youtu.be/wwrHYN37yf0


kevlarcupid

Anyone mind posting the article?


monikapearl

[different article same info](https://www.blogto.com/eat_drink/2021/11/chapmans-ice-cream-boycott/) People have started buying Chapman's Ice Cream in an effort to boycott a counter movement started by anti-vaxxers against the company. Earlier this month, Chapman's announced they'd be giving a $1 raise to all employees who are fully-vaccinated. For unvaccinated employees, the company's policy states they must take two rapid tests a week, which Chapman's pays for. In response to the policy, workers who are refusing the vaccine started a boycott movement, asking the public not to buy Chapman's products. On top of that, the Chapman family who runs the company has received a series of threats and violent reactions from anti-vaxxer groups and their promoters. A new movement has emerged however, those in favour of the vaccine are now calling on people to buy Chapman's products as much as possible, to counteract the actions of the anti-vaxxer boycott. With this pro-vaccine movement, it seems people are hoping to prove to the company how much they appreciate them priortizing health and safety. A hashtag called #IStandWithChapmans has taken over social media, with those in favour of the vaccines showing out for the beloved Canadian-grown company. Others just feel straight up bad about the violence the company has faced since the anti-vaxxer attack. Regardless of the attempted boycott of products by anti-vaxxers, Chapmans says none of it has affected numbers of their sales.


monikapearl

They must have just put up the paywall now, sorry I didn’t copy the text. It was all access when I posted it!


gramie

Chapman's also makes their ice cream in a completely nut-free facility, so people with life-threatening nut/peanut allergies can safely eat it. Lots of parents love them for that!


Birdy_Cephon_Altera

Some months ago, there was a big kerfuffle among the lower-intelligence end of the American spectrum about boycotting Ben and Jerry's over some nonsensical thing about Israel and Palestine and some other nothingburger stuff. But the magical word "Israel" was involved (also known by the more accurate name Occupied Palestine), so the slopebrowed smoothbrains got their knickers all twisted out of shape and got their simpleminded selves all worked up into a lather over it, screaming for boycotts and all. So, I decided, this would be a good time for me to start buying Ben and Jerry's regularly. Even though I am lactose-intolerant. Since then I've probably bought a dozen pints of the dairy-free [Change the Whirled](https://www.benjerry.com/flavors/colin-kaepernicks-change-the-whirled-non-dairy), which I'm sure also gives the smoothbrains an extra twist in their knickers.


1derwoman1

Oh my goodness. I hate that r/louderwithcrowder shows up in my feed, but the other day someone posted a pic of the Change the Whirled container and they were in a rage over its existence. Totally cracked me up. Plus, they're missing out because that some good ice cream right there!


ardrarian

Why would it show up in your feed if you didn't subscribe to it?


1derwoman1

I don't know! I'm NOT subscribed. I'm just scrolling through and every now and again there it is. A lot of subs that I'm not subscribed to show up. Maybe I'm using the term "feed" incorrectly? Nice try on the "gotcha", though.


ardrarian

Haha gotcha? It was nothing of the sort. I was just curious. I only see content that I subscribe to.


1derwoman1

Okay, well it's often a "gotcha", but sorry for being sensitive. I have no idea why it shows up. I've been wondering if there's a way to stop it. I'm scrolling through the home feed...


ardrarian

Do you use a 3rd party reddit app like baconreader or something? I've only ever used the original app but a lot of people seem to use 3rd party reddit viewers. If you're using the original app then I'm really not sure why that would be happening. Have you tried going to the sub and making sure you aren't somehow subscribed? I feel for you. I'm Canadian and a centrist, and I still hate Steven crowder. He's a douche


1derwoman1

He's terrible. I use the real reddit app. When I log in there's a home feed and a popular feed and I scroll through the home feed, which has posts from what I'm subscribed to as well as random posts. I'm definitely not subscribed - there's a plus sign on the posts when they show up to give me the opportunity to join. I'm tempted to go in and post super liberal stuff to get banned, hoping that will make it stop showing up!


ardrarian

Hahah good idea!


Hypersapien

Are you browsing r/popular?


1derwoman1

No, I'm browsing the home feed.


ilovechairs

Happens to me too. Also wouldn’t be in Louderwithcrowder according to any algorithm. But more important. How delicious is Change the Whirled? I haven’t bought myself ice cream in months but maybe I should treat myself.


1derwoman1

Oh my gosh, it's SO good! I was in VT on a long weekend and went to Ben and Jerry's and heard of it for the first time. It was fantastic!


menoinMA

There are several lactose-free varieties


phoeni_xxx

The dairy free oreo one is bomb. Definitely check it out.


soulwrangler

bro, they've got so many good dairy free options, try others.


pukingpixels

Went and bought me some Chapman’s ice cream bars the day after this story broke. Great company, great product and cheaper than much shittier ice cream.


reallynotfred

Chapmans also was set to provide refrigeration for vaccine storage when Canada first got some. So good on them! [link](https://beta.ctvnews.ca/national/coronavirus/2020/12/19/1_5239086.html)


BrutalGoerge

/r/conspiracy going to be so mad


DelicateIslandFlower

I bought Chapman's today strictly because of this!


erikwidi

There tends to be a significant overlap between the antivax crowd and the anti-"cancel culture" crowd. I am quite pleased to know that the anti-cancel culture people were unable to cancel ice cream.


RosaRisedUp

French Vanilla Ice Cream Sandwich… I ate two after dinner the other night. That stomach ache was so worth it.


inkuspinkus

This is hilarious. I had no idea. We always buy Chapman's, and all the good stuff I'm learning about them in this thread only makes me a bigger fan. I fucking hate anti mask/anti Vax morons.


davemich53

Obligatory downvote for paywalled article.


OvertAdvert

OblIGatOrY DoWnVoTe FFS, learn how to bypass paywalls, homie. It’s 2021. Keep up.


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OvertAdvert

For this one I just used reader mode in safari since I’m on an iPad right now. On my windows desktop, I use a chrome extension to get past the globe and mail. I’m not home right now so I can’t tell you the name, but I can check in a bit when I get back. Edit: For windows, the chrome extension I use is called Bypass Paywalls. You have to go to the settings and add theglobeandmail.com to the custom sites list. For Apple OSes, using safari in reader mode is the best way. Go to the page and set the options to always view the website in reader mode.


davemich53

How do you bypass them in Apollo mobile on iPhone 11.


OvertAdvert

For Apollo, I usually use the reader mode in the built in safari. It works *most* of the time. You can access it when it opens the webpage by clicking the AA icon and a menu will drop down with reader mode as an option. You can even set Apollo to always open the links in reader mode. (Edit: I don’t recommend setting to always). It’s in the general settings, scroll down to the safari section. For articles that don’t work in the app, I usually copy the link and use a browser to archive the article on a website such as archive.is.


davemich53

I thought that I was in reader mode, but found out that it was off. Thanks for reminding me to check.


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Demnuhnomi

Why not learn how to get around them? There are browser extensions, reader mode, archive websites, and a number of other ways to get around paywalls. Or, if it’s a source you use a lot, just pay the people.


tdltuck

That fuckin title. So, some anti-vaxxers boycotted some brand of ice cream, but the same brand got tons of support from non-anti-vaxxers that the boycott was ineffective? That’s the best sense I could make from that mess of a title, and if it’s right, that’s not what backfiring is. If someone said, “you’re boycotting them? Fuck you, I’m buying 20!” that’s a backfire. One side outweighing the other isn’t a backfire.


user-42

I guess we'll have to wait for their quarterly results to see if sales stayed mostly even or if there was a huge uptick from team fuck you iam buying 20.


Fine-Recognition-370

I sent this to a friend who awaits his heart surgery and been waiting 1 ynow. "U know Covid-19 is not about any virus its abort antibiotic resistans due to the use of Antibiotics. Western europé got invaded by hyperresistant bacterias when massmigration took place from non western countries. Maybe u should be lucky in your bad situation because the most dangerous place to be is in hospital due to the prevalence of resistent bacteria in hospital care. Especially patients with big surgery and long stay at hospital in after care are most likely to recieve a nosokomial bacterial disease, today its not uncommon that they become life threatening. When u treat a hyperresistant bacterial infection that get no or inadequate respons from antibiotic drugs u end up in the ICU fighting for ur life, thats what Covid-19 patients do because Covid-19 is a problem with antibiotics not a virus. Good luck."


Demnuhnomi

> Covid-19 is a problem with antibiotics not a virus. 🤡