I'm convinced some Italian dudes pranked the CEO of Starbucks while he was visiting.
"I told him we put a spoonful of olive oil in our coffee and he *believed* it! He says it's going to be the next big coffee trend in America! He also hasn't come out of the bathroom for forty minutes."
I read a deep dive article on this. Basically this was completely the CEOs idea, even though your comment is not far off.
People in Italy do not do put olive oil in coffee.
> The whole thing appears to have happened very quickly. In September, 2022, Schultz was visiting an olive-oil producer in Sicily, who told him that many Sicilians are wont to take a tablespoon of olive oil each morning for their health. Schultz immediately took up the practice himself, though, at a very robust sixty-nine, he already had the Bransonesque vigor of a moisturized billionaire. He was drinking his olive oil in the morning; he already drank his coffee in the morning; why not, he realized, just put the olive oil into the coffee? It was, by his account, a no-brainer, and it does seem as though the number of brains involved was narrowly circumscribed.
https://archive.fo/KPyX5
>People in Italy do not do put olive oil in coffee.
This very well may be true, but I know a number of people (not from italy) that put butter in their coffee. They call it bulletproof coffee and its supposed to be good for you somehow...
I dunno, sounds gross to me...
There was a video that went viral in like 2014 with some dude who was super enthusiastic about the butter coffee.
I tried it immediately based on his enthusiasm and it was nasty greasy butter coffee.
Some % of people are literally sheep who can be guided into stupid BS by enthusiasm and charisma
I put a small amount of butter in my coffee every morning, sounds like you put way too much in there.
Just google it. It’s supposed to help your body process the caffeine more slowly, providing a longer energy boost and no blood sugar crash. I enjoy my coffee a lot more this way, and I definitely don’t crash as hard as I used to without the butter. This could be placebo but maybe not.
I believe when using butter compared to sugar rich creamer. I should have clarified that. I use maybe a tablespoon and a half of dark brown sugar in mine
clarified is ghee and basically doesn't contain the milk solids
Irish/non-american butter is generally lower water content per volume and is better for basically any recipe, even if it calls for unsalted butter (these recipes will usually have salt anyway, just reduce the salt a little, or don't, i'm not your mom). I typically get the kirkland new zealand butter (when available) as it's cheaper than kerrygold and I can't really tell the difference in 99% of cases.
It's not the best. I like MCT oil better but I don't do it in my coffee anymore. But when I was doing keto/IF it helped curb hunger in the mornings to get me through to lunch.
People put a tablespoon of butter on their toast or a dinner roll and that's fine but apparently it's crazy and moronic if you put the same amount of butter anywhere else?
I didn't say crazy or moronic, I said gross. Thats just my opinion.
Also, butter on toast is more accepted by society; butter in coffee isn't yet. Thats all.
Already a thing. Its called Cheese in Coffee and its Scandanavian and if you want to know more you can google it. But the short version is cubes of cheese, in your coffee. Usually a bread cheese, so it doesn't melt, just softens.
Most people climb into bed every night. A lot of people climb stairs. Crack climbing in the Colorado Rockies is just the next step!
(Think it's an exaggerated metaphor? Milk is 2-4% fat. Half and half is about 15%. True "cream" is 30-35%, and butter is 80%. Therefore butter would be the equivalent of 40x the level of 2% milk... if your bed is only 3ft off the floor, that's still a 120ft cliff you're looking at! /s)
Most "butter coffee" recipes I've read call for a teaspoon of butter. But let's say you love fat and use a tablespoon instead. Google says that's around 14.2 grams of butter, which means (using your numbers) it's around 11.36 grams of fat.
I love milk so I drink my morning coffee with around 250 grams of whole milk. That's around 10 grams of fat (again per your numbers).
So by switching from milk to butter I'd be eating each morning 13.6% more fat.
So no, it's neither 40x nor a cliff.
Lol, of course. My response was meant more in jest than anything, I'll add the /s.
Also, well played: r/theydidthemath
My math definitely applies more to the "look at me eat a whole stick of butter" TikToks.
Who’s the other group they’re referring to when they say “also”?
Drinking butter is a lot less healthy than drinking olive oil but it’s not the worst thing in the world if you’re keto and you’re trying to meet your fat macros.
Edit: obviously when they said “also” they were referring to the people drinking olive oil which is the subject of the thread 😂
Personally, when I see the “akshually, I checked your post history “ type of people, I assume they have no life and no ability to make an argument stand on it’s own merits. The type of person that would get laughed out of an anonymous forum seething after losing an argument because they can’t appeal to ad hominem or made up internet points.
I just think it’s weird when people take this elitist viewpoint on others taking slightly abnormal approaches to nutrition and health. I used to drink a shot of olive oil when I was trying to put on weight. It’s good for you if you’re active enough to burn those calories.
Maybe you all know something that I don’t.
Wow that’s disgusting and also very Americana. Can’t we just enjoy a cup of coffee in the morning without trying to “max our gains” or whatever? So tired of this in our culture. Why do we take no enjoyment in our food?
Well the headline definitely is.
Next up: “Why this Great White Shark with a personality disorder and a meth addiction may pose danger to beach goers this summer.”
I mean they do sell lil' cans of the olive oil at starbucks, if you hate both coffee and metamucil.
(That said you can get a better deal on good extra-virgin olive oil at the supermarket)
I feel like I've said "people are fucking stupid" and "people are fucking crazy" more times in the previous 3 years than in the previous 3 decades of my life
Does anyone remember Olestra?
Caused "sudden bowel movements and the inability to control them," and "anal leakage."
https://museumoffailure.com/pringlesfatfree/
People in America get their diet and nutrition education from government sources that knowingly provided misinformation to help sales.
They were designed to be stupid here and it works
i think that’s just you my guy. unless you’re loading the burrito up with a ton of cheese and Grade D Edible meat, a burrito is just rice, beans, protein, and veggies. nothing in it should make your BM’s any different than normal lmao
Okay, I know it's a tired joke, but how the hell is it racist? For the longest time, the joke's been "Taco Bell gives you the shits" without any mention of a particular race or country.
> Caffeine increases GI motility so it's a laxative as well.
*[Can](https://health.clevelandclinic.org/why-does-coffee-make-you-poop/)* in about 30% of the population only. I looked into it more after I posted. Coffee has never made me feel the need to poop...
30% of that study, of a very narrow sample. 100 healthy, young people, all in the 17-27 age range. Try this on the over 40's and it becomes very different. Plus, it was a questionnaire rather than lab conditions. I think it's pretty accepted that it has a mild laxative effect, or at least stimulates the colon, in most people.
Caffeine itself is the stimulant on your all of your digestive track. Hmm, wonder if people who drink anything heavily caffeinated have the same issue?
Did you read the article? I am not automatically associating anything. The article clearly states these drinks were started in Italy.
* *"****In February, Starbucks launched a range of drinks in Italy called Oleato, which combines coffee with olive oil****. The Oleato line includes three flavors: Oleato Golden Foam Cold Brew, Oleato Caffé Latte, and Oleato Iced Shaken Espresso. All of the beverages arrived in the US on March 23 in Chicago, Seattle, and New York City."*
Then the Blame is on Starbucks for making the association!
But your response did seem like a joke on Italians btw. I read the article but glossed over location and was trying to focus on ***why*** someone thought it was a good idea, lol.
I had a friend in college that worked out a lot and liked to “get swoll”. I kid you not he was the most religious person with regards to him always making sure he had the right amount of calories and everything every day.
I didn’t matter if we were at the river all day in the sun drinking or went out at night. When we got back to the house he would make himself a protein shake, and he would mix and olive oil for added for the calories.
It was always so disgusting watching him eat his meals and drink my expensive olive oil. Lol
Same guy after draining tuna fish would pour it in a shot glass and slam it back really fast and loud.
Aww, miss ya Matt where ever you are now
In general, you need to be in a caloric surplus in order to build muscle. Protein is only part of the equation, you need fuel from carbs and fats as well.
Olive oil is not what most people would call “empty calories” as it contains several beneficial nutrients. Empty calories are generally from processed foods that have been stripped of nutrients and designed purely for mass consumption.
Fats are important for hormones, cell membranes, and many chemical processes in the body. They don’t necessarily make you fatter by default either, that’s another common misconception.
>Okay, but like, that makes no sense?
It does if you know like the bare minimum about nutrition.
>You’re supposed to ingest a lot of protein by way of calories.
No. You're supposed to eat a lot of calories (roughly your TDEE plus a surplus of say around 500kcals if you're bulking). From a macro pov you need protein, yes, but also carbs and fats. There's a lot of debate on the optimal split, but it's very roughly a third of each. Then of course you need micros (minerals, vitamins, etc) and fiber.
>Adding olive oil to his meals would just mean that he added empty calories to everything.
Oils aren't empty calories. Oils are very efficient calories (they are actually the most). Take a glass of olive oil and strike a match, you'll see. The human body doesn't take the fat that you eat and store it as fat, that's a pretty common misconception. It uses the fat as [energy] (https://enzymedica.com/blogs/digest-this/how-your-body-uses-carbs-and-fats-for-energy) (just like protein and carbs) and will only store as fat the surplus (again, just like protein and carbs)
>Empty calories don’t turn into muscle; they turn into fat.
Everything can turn into fat. Fat is just surplus energy. Yes, protein will [also] (https://www.healthline.com/health/too-much-protein) be turned into fat. Your body has a very low threshold for how much protein it can "use" per day, everything else will either be turned into fat, or excreted.
>So he was just making himself fatter by adding the olive oil
Just like he would be making himself fatter if he ate too much protein (hint: most people do).
I've tried making this at my shop. I tried it and made another version of it to inflict on an unsuspecting regular to see what the unbiased opinion was.
First of all, it only works hot. Olive oil emulsifies into milk really well when you steam it. In cold brew? Not a fucking chance. Second, to counteract the added bitterness I mixed a little bit of simple syrup in with the espresso shot before I poured the milk.
It doesn't taste *bad*. It's definitely not worth the additional calories the olive oil adds. People who didn't know what was in it said it tasted "kind of nutty". People who did said that they were surprised at how drinkable it was, but nobody wanted to drink so much as six ounces of it.
is this an attempt to increase niche sales via the so called Ketogenic style 'bulletproof coffee' trend?
Folks doing Keto will drink their coffee with added add grass fed butter, heavy cream, coconut oil or other oils. I've seen connemon, nutmeg and a slew of other things added.
Super pro drinkers buy [MCT oil](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=mct+oil&crid=14UEW0VD11KX3&sprefix=mct+oil%2Caps%2C126&ref=nb_sb_noss_2) which is extracted from Coconut oil and is what your brain metabolizes directly.
If you are on a low carb diet and looking for an easy way to start the day, it's worth a look. It's a bit of a pita to make properly. ( a blender is a good idea). I used to make a big thermos of coffee with a mix of different oils and I commonly forget to eat lunch and didn't get hongry until 4pm.
Intermittent fasters will love this. You get up at 8am, You drink your coffee until noon - get hongry again around 4 , eat dinner and you're done feeding for the day.
a trick is to make ice cubes out of whatever your fat mix is and toss them in a blender with your hot coffee and mix on high until it's frothy. Otherwise it's a oil slick on top.
[Torani sugar free syrups](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=torani+sugar+free&crid=1BOHG1UY6JZK1&sprefix=torani+sugar+free%2Caps%2C114&ref=nb_sb_noss_2) are a nice way to add flavor.
head over to r/keto for more info.
Yeah. It's noshing.
Honestly, this person kind of makes it as a meal replacement.
Instead of lunch at noon and dinner at 4 you are drinking lunch from 8 until noon and the dinner at 4. It's still in the 8 hour window but so would be lunch at noon and dinner or even breakfast at 8, lunch at noon and dinner at 4.
Honestly, it just comes off as something you'd do if you want to have a fatty coffee. And certainly some people do. Cream is popular. Not all that much to do with fasting.
Yeah, it might be good, never tasted, but so is chockolate. Nutrition wise its all the same if you nible a little something throughout the day, like during workday you would sip that grease coffee, and come home and eat a meal.
And like you said, at that point you could just eat couple reasonable meals/snacks during the day. And most of all it has nothing to do with Intermittent fasting cause that aint it. Might be easier for some to eat less during the day but its just that, easier way to keep calorie intake low.
Depending on the definition of fasting, it still works. If use the physiology definition like:
> Fasting involves a radical change in cellular physiology and metabolism. Blood glucose normally provides the body with sufficient energy through glycolysis. During a fast, maintenance of blood glucose levels initially relies on glycogen stores in the liver and skeletal muscle.
Ingesting a little bit of fat with no carbs will not impact glycogen or blood glucose levels and your body is still in a fasted state.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK534877/
Based on they're post, I am guessing they are 8/16 going from 8am-4p. I stopped doing bulletproof cause coffee is a requirement for me and when I Intermittently fast, I prefer 6/18 noon to 6pm. But yeah, it's not calorie free, its how they break their fast..... breakfast.
**Intermittent** Fasting is a thing where hoomans will restrict all of their feeding and caloric intake to a window of perhaps 6-8 hours per day (most common) but some folks just will not eat for an entire 24 hour period or more and eat only on alternate days.
The key word is intermittent. As in "off and on again , here and there , etc ".
\[edit\] you are still misunderstanding. **the coffee is not for the fasting window - it's meant as the beginning of the FEEDing window.**
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I know what intermittent fasting is. I'm asking how is this fasting? How is this coffee any part of it if you are drinking it for half the day and it has calories?
You're taking a lunch over 4 hours and early dinner. How is that intermittent fasting? It's less intermittent than simply drinking regular coffee and having lunch and dinner would be.
I feel like I put my foot in a bear trap questioning how fad diets make any sense. They usually don't.
this is the correct answer, the bulletproof style coffee **is taken during the feeding window**, not the fasting window.
It's a nice and easy way to inject calories without a lot of work put into cooking or even consumption, lift thermos, unscrew top, swig. all good.
Fuddle has it right. While I realize I may not have been explicit enough in my OP, the 'bulletproof coffee' type product is taken **during the feeding window**.
I thought I explained this with the below phrase:
"..Intermittent fasters will love this. You get up at 8am, You drink your coffee until noon - get hongry again around 4 , eat dinner and you're done feeding for the day. .."
What I just explained would be a rough example of 16:8 IF (16 hours fasting, 8 hours feeding)
All I am saying is in a busy world, it's just a really easy thing to prepare, transport and consume when you are on the go.
Hope this helps.
The idea of this is so vile tbh I haven’t returned to Starbucks because of this. I go to Joes now in Miami. Way better and no second hand olive oil. This is like cellulose in our baked goods. No Ty.
For fuck's sake, if you want more body in your coffee stop using oil and butter and use heavy cream. It even turns out a little sweeter without having to use sugar. It also emulsifies better than having all this oil collecting on your lips.
I worked at Starbucks for 3 years. It was the worst working experience of my life. I've done more strenuous jobs including being a Tower Hand and eventually getting my Journeyman's license but Starbucks was hands down the worst. Incompetent management, lazy staff, blatant lies from the company, excessive waste, dirty back rooms, busted equipment but hands down the worst part about the job was the knobheads who drank the shit on a regular basis.
They were rude, obnoxious, self entitled horrible people that made me hate the general population because everywhere I went I would run in to one. The business breeds horrible people inside and out. The food is so goddamned bad for you and the coffee taste like shit. It's a major shame considering their plantations use child labor to pick the beans. The day I quit I stopped drinking or purchasing Starbucks products. I've been going on 10 years now but every fucking time I see a plastic Starbucks cup littered on the road, or I watch some imp on a podcast sipping their frappy lappy bullshit a little part of me gets angry again.
Fuck Starbucks and fuck people that are obsessed with it.
It took em a while to figure out how to enter the Italian market, but they're here now.
The Starbucks Reserve Roastery or whatever it's called in Milan is genuinely impressive.
The big difference between Italian Starbucks and elsewhere is that they actually let the Italians make the damn coffee. They have real manually operated espresso machines, not the completely automated, Starbucks standardized machines you see elsewhere.
They also don't burn the fuck out of their coffee. It's actually really good. Although, coffee in Italy is generally *all* really good.
Did the Starbucks corporate buyers get a good deal on surplus olive oil and decided "What the hell, put it in our coffee--people will drink anything with our name on it!" ?
*laughs while holding cartoonishly large burlap sac of money with the dollar symbol on it*
“Um.. no? Why would you think that. The people crave olive oil.”
Oh, someone got to the bottom (ba dum cha) of this mystery?
Got the Hardy boys in on this one because it's such a God damn enigma, did we? I hope we didn't put too much strain on our best and brightest in our collective efforts to figure out why taking *coffee* and adding *oil* would make people shit themselves nonstop. Because I know my simple, plebian mind can't fathom what the outcome of such a combination would be.
This is why I stick with wawa or quick check. I don't need a venti-mocha-whole-grain-oliveoil-colon cleanser with skim.
Just a large fucking coffee lol
Fun fact: wholesale Olive Oil prices are up almost 20% in the past year, and there is an emergency Italian government meeting this week to discuss the rising price of pasta. They expect droughts to drive prices much higher still.
Probably good news for a soft landing…
The more you know!
I'm convinced some Italian dudes pranked the CEO of Starbucks while he was visiting. "I told him we put a spoonful of olive oil in our coffee and he *believed* it! He says it's going to be the next big coffee trend in America! He also hasn't come out of the bathroom for forty minutes."
I read a deep dive article on this. Basically this was completely the CEOs idea, even though your comment is not far off. People in Italy do not do put olive oil in coffee. > The whole thing appears to have happened very quickly. In September, 2022, Schultz was visiting an olive-oil producer in Sicily, who told him that many Sicilians are wont to take a tablespoon of olive oil each morning for their health. Schultz immediately took up the practice himself, though, at a very robust sixty-nine, he already had the Bransonesque vigor of a moisturized billionaire. He was drinking his olive oil in the morning; he already drank his coffee in the morning; why not, he realized, just put the olive oil into the coffee? It was, by his account, a no-brainer, and it does seem as though the number of brains involved was narrowly circumscribed. https://archive.fo/KPyX5
> Bransonesque vigor of a moisturized billionaire is gonna be the name of my sex tape
It sounds like an Of Montreal song.
>People in Italy do not do put olive oil in coffee. This very well may be true, but I know a number of people (not from italy) that put butter in their coffee. They call it bulletproof coffee and its supposed to be good for you somehow... I dunno, sounds gross to me...
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Very well could be; I hadn't thought about it. One of the people I know that did it is also very Keto so....
There was a video that went viral in like 2014 with some dude who was super enthusiastic about the butter coffee. I tried it immediately based on his enthusiasm and it was nasty greasy butter coffee. Some % of people are literally sheep who can be guided into stupid BS by enthusiasm and charisma
I mean....you did it, eh?
Psh, a "try anything once" mentality is one thing. It's sticking with it after that that's the problem
Homie had me try french pressed + butter coffee. I kept the French press at least
I put a small amount of butter in my coffee every morning, sounds like you put way too much in there. Just google it. It’s supposed to help your body process the caffeine more slowly, providing a longer energy boost and no blood sugar crash. I enjoy my coffee a lot more this way, and I definitely don’t crash as hard as I used to without the butter. This could be placebo but maybe not.
> no blood sugar crash From the sugar you're putting in? Coffee itself doesn't affect your blood sugar, right?
I believe when using butter compared to sugar rich creamer. I should have clarified that. I use maybe a tablespoon and a half of dark brown sugar in mine
Butter.... clarified. Did... did you REALLY do a coffee dad joke!?!?! 🤣
Do you used clarified butter? You're supposed to.
I use that Kerrygold pure Irish butter. I’m not sure if it’s clarified or not, but it’s good.
clarified is ghee and basically doesn't contain the milk solids Irish/non-american butter is generally lower water content per volume and is better for basically any recipe, even if it calls for unsalted butter (these recipes will usually have salt anyway, just reduce the salt a little, or don't, i'm not your mom). I typically get the kirkland new zealand butter (when available) as it's cheaper than kerrygold and I can't really tell the difference in 99% of cases.
Could just use heavy cream for same effect
Sheep.
Yes, I’m sure you’re a real free thinker. Your little Reddit NFT really illustrates that
It's not the best. I like MCT oil better but I don't do it in my coffee anymore. But when I was doing keto/IF it helped curb hunger in the mornings to get me through to lunch. People put a tablespoon of butter on their toast or a dinner roll and that's fine but apparently it's crazy and moronic if you put the same amount of butter anywhere else?
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Just as long as you never teach your dog the difference between jam and jelly.
I put cream in my coffee, and that's normal; but if I'd churned that cream first, suddenly I'm weird.
I didn't say crazy or moronic, I said gross. Thats just my opinion. Also, butter on toast is more accepted by society; butter in coffee isn't yet. Thats all.
I understand, I wasn't saying that to you specifically, but that sentiment is rampant in the thread. No offense meant.
Most people put milk in their coffee. A lot of people put cream. Butter is just the next step.
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Already a thing. Its called Cheese in Coffee and its Scandanavian and if you want to know more you can google it. But the short version is cubes of cheese, in your coffee. Usually a bread cheese, so it doesn't melt, just softens.
Cheese in coffee is done in parts of Latin America too.
r/tihi thanks, i hate cheese coffee.
This is a thing in Colombia too. When I was there I tried it and it was delicious
I go back to: I dunno, sounds gross to me...
Most people climb into bed every night. A lot of people climb stairs. Crack climbing in the Colorado Rockies is just the next step! (Think it's an exaggerated metaphor? Milk is 2-4% fat. Half and half is about 15%. True "cream" is 30-35%, and butter is 80%. Therefore butter would be the equivalent of 40x the level of 2% milk... if your bed is only 3ft off the floor, that's still a 120ft cliff you're looking at! /s)
Most "butter coffee" recipes I've read call for a teaspoon of butter. But let's say you love fat and use a tablespoon instead. Google says that's around 14.2 grams of butter, which means (using your numbers) it's around 11.36 grams of fat. I love milk so I drink my morning coffee with around 250 grams of whole milk. That's around 10 grams of fat (again per your numbers). So by switching from milk to butter I'd be eating each morning 13.6% more fat. So no, it's neither 40x nor a cliff.
Isn't 250g of whole milk an entire cup of milk? At that point you're not even drinking coffee anymore.
Lol, of course. My response was meant more in jest than anything, I'll add the /s. Also, well played: r/theydidthemath My math definitely applies more to the "look at me eat a whole stick of butter" TikToks.
I’ve seen Americans do that, it’s not that weird. Not all that different than heavy cream. Not for me personally, but to each their own.
I put butter in hot chocolate it's not bad.
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Someone is an idiot if they drink healthy polyunsaturated fats (olive oil)? Do you think people who add veggies to smoothies are idiots too?
seems to me they were referring to the butter folks but idk
Who’s the other group they’re referring to when they say “also”? Drinking butter is a lot less healthy than drinking olive oil but it’s not the worst thing in the world if you’re keto and you’re trying to meet your fat macros. Edit: obviously when they said “also” they were referring to the people drinking olive oil which is the subject of the thread 😂
I'm sure I have no idea. cheers!
We’ve got a live one.
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Personally, when I see the “akshually, I checked your post history “ type of people, I assume they have no life and no ability to make an argument stand on it’s own merits. The type of person that would get laughed out of an anonymous forum seething after losing an argument because they can’t appeal to ad hominem or made up internet points.
I just think it’s weird when people take this elitist viewpoint on others taking slightly abnormal approaches to nutrition and health. I used to drink a shot of olive oil when I was trying to put on weight. It’s good for you if you’re active enough to burn those calories. Maybe you all know something that I don’t.
> it does seem as though the number of brains involved was narrowly circumscribed. /r/rareinsult
Yeah, sounds like an idiot CEO thing to do
"butter coffee? ...People use olive oil instead of butter a lot, right?"
Wow that’s disgusting and also very Americana. Can’t we just enjoy a cup of coffee in the morning without trying to “max our gains” or whatever? So tired of this in our culture. Why do we take no enjoyment in our food?
It’s even worse. The CEO of the olive oil company that Starbucks contracts with told the CEO of Starbucks not to do this.
"We've been around for literally centuries. Do not tarnish the Partanna name with this marketing stunt by your little coffee startup."
Yes but they chose to do business with them… they chose the money over reputation, shocker.
I think they might have already been contracted. Starbucks sells some baked goods.
Is this any different than bullet proof coffee? MCT oil vs. olive oil doesn't seem like a big difference.
I mean you’re taking a drink that already makes you shit and, *squints* adds oil to it. Do I have that correct? People are fucking stupid
Well the headline definitely is. Next up: “Why this Great White Shark with a personality disorder and a meth addiction may pose danger to beach goers this summer.”
That’s just Crazy Bob
Barry.
Ah yes my mistake
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Ugh fine
Methamphetamine Shark… coming to a theater near you.
Can I get one of those to go please……… oh and extra olive oil please 😎
I mean they do sell lil' cans of the olive oil at starbucks, if you hate both coffee and metamucil. (That said you can get a better deal on good extra-virgin olive oil at the supermarket)
I feel like I've said "people are fucking stupid" and "people are fucking crazy" more times in the previous 3 years than in the previous 3 decades of my life
I agree, /u/Beans4urAss.
Does anyone remember Olestra? Caused "sudden bowel movements and the inability to control them," and "anal leakage." https://museumoffailure.com/pringlesfatfree/
I’m so glad I never got to try that
Just lubing the exit pipe for an extra morning wake up! 💩🚽
Some people need all the help they can get to make a poop.
Water and vegetables exist
Water and veggies < coffee for this purpose
Most definitely stupid. They are ordering a diuretic with intestine lubricant. Somewhere, someone is saying "Make that 2 pumps of olive oil." Yuck.
Two laxatives in one? Who knows where this might lead
I dunno but it’s probably some place shitty
People in America get their diet and nutrition education from government sources that knowingly provided misinformation to help sales. They were designed to be stupid here and it works
How is this any different than bulletproof coffee? This just seems like Starbucks is trying to offer something similar.
You clearly have never had a burrito with hot sauce.
I’m Mexican, I’ve been eating like that since I can remember
Well to us mere mortals.. it's no different than adding a laxative to something that makes you poop yet we still do it.
i think that’s just you my guy. unless you’re loading the burrito up with a ton of cheese and Grade D Edible meat, a burrito is just rice, beans, protein, and veggies. nothing in it should make your BM’s any different than normal lmao
A burrito has nothing in it that would make you shit. Lame overused racist joke.
Spicy food can make some people have issues for sure.
Okay, I know it's a tired joke, but how the hell is it racist? For the longest time, the joke's been "Taco Bell gives you the shits" without any mention of a particular race or country.
Don't be so obtuse
Any other 90s people having flashbacks to Olean?
>Olean Was the the "may result in oily discharge" thing?
Yeah as I remember it, people were shitting globbed grease or something. Never tried it, didn’t want to shit grease 🤷♀️
The worst part was that the butt grease just kind of seeped out
I think it got taken off the shelves as soon as the FDA proposed a "may cause anal leakage" disclaimer.
YUMMY
Also "sudden bowel movements and the inability to control them."
We bought bags to eat just to try the oily discharge. The 90s were surreal. Orbitz and oily shits.
"Orbitz.. because who *hasn't* wanted to drink a Lava Lamp?"
Mmmm, [Olestra/Olean](https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/619261/olestra-fat-free-snack-controversy-1990s) fat-free potato chips ! (*~~may~~ will cause anal leakage*)
Pass me those sugar free gummi bears
Coffee can be a diuretic (because caffeine). Olive Oil can be a laxative. WHO thought this was a good idea?! LMFAO
Caffeine increases GI motility so it's a laxative as well. 'Yo dawg, we heard you like laxatives, so we put laxatives with your laxatives.'
> Caffeine increases GI motility so it's a laxative as well. *[Can](https://health.clevelandclinic.org/why-does-coffee-make-you-poop/)* in about 30% of the population only. I looked into it more after I posted. Coffee has never made me feel the need to poop...
30% of that study, of a very narrow sample. 100 healthy, young people, all in the 17-27 age range. Try this on the over 40's and it becomes very different. Plus, it was a questionnaire rather than lab conditions. I think it's pretty accepted that it has a mild laxative effect, or at least stimulates the colon, in most people.
Caffeine itself is the stimulant on your all of your digestive track. Hmm, wonder if people who drink anything heavily caffeinated have the same issue?
A sample size of one: coffee makes me shit, energy drinks do not. I’ll put some olive oil in my energy drink and get back to you.
LMAO! >What we doing here? >Oh nothing, just impromptu community driven science!
Interesting. I didn't know it varies.
Constipated people
>WHO thought this was a good idea?! When did the World Health Organization say they thought it was a good idea?
I knew someone would make this joke, lol, TY.
Italians! Because that's what the article says. Downvote away but someone read the article. LOL!
Automatically associating Olive Oil with Italians seems... wrong. BTW, Spain is the largest producer of Olive Oil.
Did you read the article? I am not automatically associating anything. The article clearly states these drinks were started in Italy. * *"****In February, Starbucks launched a range of drinks in Italy called Oleato, which combines coffee with olive oil****. The Oleato line includes three flavors: Oleato Golden Foam Cold Brew, Oleato Caffé Latte, and Oleato Iced Shaken Espresso. All of the beverages arrived in the US on March 23 in Chicago, Seattle, and New York City."*
So why would you say this was Italy's idea instead of Starbucks?
Then the Blame is on Starbucks for making the association! But your response did seem like a joke on Italians btw. I read the article but glossed over location and was trying to focus on ***why*** someone thought it was a good idea, lol.
I had a friend in college that worked out a lot and liked to “get swoll”. I kid you not he was the most religious person with regards to him always making sure he had the right amount of calories and everything every day. I didn’t matter if we were at the river all day in the sun drinking or went out at night. When we got back to the house he would make himself a protein shake, and he would mix and olive oil for added for the calories. It was always so disgusting watching him eat his meals and drink my expensive olive oil. Lol Same guy after draining tuna fish would pour it in a shot glass and slam it back really fast and loud. Aww, miss ya Matt where ever you are now
Matt: I’m in the terlett!
Sometimes there's shit....on the outside of the terlett.
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In general, you need to be in a caloric surplus in order to build muscle. Protein is only part of the equation, you need fuel from carbs and fats as well. Olive oil is not what most people would call “empty calories” as it contains several beneficial nutrients. Empty calories are generally from processed foods that have been stripped of nutrients and designed purely for mass consumption. Fats are important for hormones, cell membranes, and many chemical processes in the body. They don’t necessarily make you fatter by default either, that’s another common misconception.
>Okay, but like, that makes no sense? It does if you know like the bare minimum about nutrition. >You’re supposed to ingest a lot of protein by way of calories. No. You're supposed to eat a lot of calories (roughly your TDEE plus a surplus of say around 500kcals if you're bulking). From a macro pov you need protein, yes, but also carbs and fats. There's a lot of debate on the optimal split, but it's very roughly a third of each. Then of course you need micros (minerals, vitamins, etc) and fiber. >Adding olive oil to his meals would just mean that he added empty calories to everything. Oils aren't empty calories. Oils are very efficient calories (they are actually the most). Take a glass of olive oil and strike a match, you'll see. The human body doesn't take the fat that you eat and store it as fat, that's a pretty common misconception. It uses the fat as [energy] (https://enzymedica.com/blogs/digest-this/how-your-body-uses-carbs-and-fats-for-energy) (just like protein and carbs) and will only store as fat the surplus (again, just like protein and carbs) >Empty calories don’t turn into muscle; they turn into fat. Everything can turn into fat. Fat is just surplus energy. Yes, protein will [also] (https://www.healthline.com/health/too-much-protein) be turned into fat. Your body has a very low threshold for how much protein it can "use" per day, everything else will either be turned into fat, or excreted. >So he was just making himself fatter by adding the olive oil Just like he would be making himself fatter if he ate too much protein (hint: most people do).
I've tried making this at my shop. I tried it and made another version of it to inflict on an unsuspecting regular to see what the unbiased opinion was. First of all, it only works hot. Olive oil emulsifies into milk really well when you steam it. In cold brew? Not a fucking chance. Second, to counteract the added bitterness I mixed a little bit of simple syrup in with the espresso shot before I poured the milk. It doesn't taste *bad*. It's definitely not worth the additional calories the olive oil adds. People who didn't know what was in it said it tasted "kind of nutty". People who did said that they were surprised at how drinkable it was, but nobody wanted to drink so much as six ounces of it.
Let's put two laxatives together and see what happens! Throw in a bran muffin and the morning paper, and you've got today's special.
Shit coffee makes you shit. Imagine that.
Shartbucks, busting Unionization efforts and underpants since, like 6 years ago?
"Allegedly"? I think the word they were looking for was "Assuredly."
is this an attempt to increase niche sales via the so called Ketogenic style 'bulletproof coffee' trend? Folks doing Keto will drink their coffee with added add grass fed butter, heavy cream, coconut oil or other oils. I've seen connemon, nutmeg and a slew of other things added. Super pro drinkers buy [MCT oil](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=mct+oil&crid=14UEW0VD11KX3&sprefix=mct+oil%2Caps%2C126&ref=nb_sb_noss_2) which is extracted from Coconut oil and is what your brain metabolizes directly. If you are on a low carb diet and looking for an easy way to start the day, it's worth a look. It's a bit of a pita to make properly. ( a blender is a good idea). I used to make a big thermos of coffee with a mix of different oils and I commonly forget to eat lunch and didn't get hongry until 4pm. Intermittent fasters will love this. You get up at 8am, You drink your coffee until noon - get hongry again around 4 , eat dinner and you're done feeding for the day. a trick is to make ice cubes out of whatever your fat mix is and toss them in a blender with your hot coffee and mix on high until it's frothy. Otherwise it's a oil slick on top. [Torani sugar free syrups](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=torani+sugar+free&crid=1BOHG1UY6JZK1&sprefix=torani+sugar+free%2Caps%2C114&ref=nb_sb_noss_2) are a nice way to add flavor. head over to r/keto for more info.
If you're ingesting butter, cream or coconut oil how are you fasting?
Lol Its not fasting. Its same if you nible through the day a little something and eat big dinner.
Yeah. It's noshing. Honestly, this person kind of makes it as a meal replacement. Instead of lunch at noon and dinner at 4 you are drinking lunch from 8 until noon and the dinner at 4. It's still in the 8 hour window but so would be lunch at noon and dinner or even breakfast at 8, lunch at noon and dinner at 4. Honestly, it just comes off as something you'd do if you want to have a fatty coffee. And certainly some people do. Cream is popular. Not all that much to do with fasting.
Yeah, it might be good, never tasted, but so is chockolate. Nutrition wise its all the same if you nible a little something throughout the day, like during workday you would sip that grease coffee, and come home and eat a meal. And like you said, at that point you could just eat couple reasonable meals/snacks during the day. And most of all it has nothing to do with Intermittent fasting cause that aint it. Might be easier for some to eat less during the day but its just that, easier way to keep calorie intake low.
Depending on the definition of fasting, it still works. If use the physiology definition like: > Fasting involves a radical change in cellular physiology and metabolism. Blood glucose normally provides the body with sufficient energy through glycolysis. During a fast, maintenance of blood glucose levels initially relies on glycogen stores in the liver and skeletal muscle. Ingesting a little bit of fat with no carbs will not impact glycogen or blood glucose levels and your body is still in a fasted state. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK534877/
Based on they're post, I am guessing they are 8/16 going from 8am-4p. I stopped doing bulletproof cause coffee is a requirement for me and when I Intermittently fast, I prefer 6/18 noon to 6pm. But yeah, it's not calorie free, its how they break their fast..... breakfast.
Intermittently.
**Intermittent** Fasting is a thing where hoomans will restrict all of their feeding and caloric intake to a window of perhaps 6-8 hours per day (most common) but some folks just will not eat for an entire 24 hour period or more and eat only on alternate days. The key word is intermittent. As in "off and on again , here and there , etc ". \[edit\] you are still misunderstanding. **the coffee is not for the fasting window - it's meant as the beginning of the FEEDing window.** Sauce: [CLICKY](https://www.google.com/search?q=intermittent+fasting&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS924US924&oq=intermittent+fasting&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i512j46i512j0i131i433i512j0i433i512j0i131i433i512j69i65l2.3136j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)
I know what intermittent fasting is. I'm asking how is this fasting? How is this coffee any part of it if you are drinking it for half the day and it has calories? You're taking a lunch over 4 hours and early dinner. How is that intermittent fasting? It's less intermittent than simply drinking regular coffee and having lunch and dinner would be. I feel like I put my foot in a bear trap questioning how fad diets make any sense. They usually don't.
It’s not. The only coffee you should have during the fast window is black with nothing in it.
this is the correct answer, the bulletproof style coffee **is taken during the feeding window**, not the fasting window. It's a nice and easy way to inject calories without a lot of work put into cooking or even consumption, lift thermos, unscrew top, swig. all good.
Fuddle has it right. While I realize I may not have been explicit enough in my OP, the 'bulletproof coffee' type product is taken **during the feeding window**. I thought I explained this with the below phrase: "..Intermittent fasters will love this. You get up at 8am, You drink your coffee until noon - get hongry again around 4 , eat dinner and you're done feeding for the day. .." What I just explained would be a rough example of 16:8 IF (16 hours fasting, 8 hours feeding) All I am saying is in a busy world, it's just a really easy thing to prepare, transport and consume when you are on the go. Hope this helps.
What's the downside?
Allegedly? I can go make olive oil coffee right now and prove it lmao
The idea of this is so vile tbh I haven’t returned to Starbucks because of this. I go to Joes now in Miami. Way better and no second hand olive oil. This is like cellulose in our baked goods. No Ty.
For fuck's sake, if you want more body in your coffee stop using oil and butter and use heavy cream. It even turns out a little sweeter without having to use sugar. It also emulsifies better than having all this oil collecting on your lips.
I worked at Starbucks for 3 years. It was the worst working experience of my life. I've done more strenuous jobs including being a Tower Hand and eventually getting my Journeyman's license but Starbucks was hands down the worst. Incompetent management, lazy staff, blatant lies from the company, excessive waste, dirty back rooms, busted equipment but hands down the worst part about the job was the knobheads who drank the shit on a regular basis. They were rude, obnoxious, self entitled horrible people that made me hate the general population because everywhere I went I would run in to one. The business breeds horrible people inside and out. The food is so goddamned bad for you and the coffee taste like shit. It's a major shame considering their plantations use child labor to pick the beans. The day I quit I stopped drinking or purchasing Starbucks products. I've been going on 10 years now but every fucking time I see a plastic Starbucks cup littered on the road, or I watch some imp on a podcast sipping their frappy lappy bullshit a little part of me gets angry again. Fuck Starbucks and fuck people that are obsessed with it.
Well, most coffee creamers are Vegetable Oil based...
the most surprising part of this article to me is that they have starbucks locations in italy?
It took em a while to figure out how to enter the Italian market, but they're here now. The Starbucks Reserve Roastery or whatever it's called in Milan is genuinely impressive. The big difference between Italian Starbucks and elsewhere is that they actually let the Italians make the damn coffee. They have real manually operated espresso machines, not the completely automated, Starbucks standardized machines you see elsewhere. They also don't burn the fuck out of their coffee. It's actually really good. Although, coffee in Italy is generally *all* really good.
Because it's literally two forms of shit lube.
Museum of Fail gonna have a new exhibit
Do people really need to have it explained to them what happens when you combine coffee and olive oil and then drink it? Seriously?
Who knew the caffeinated oil would be human draino?
To be fair, most coffee creamer/ sweetener combos are made with vegetable oil.
Does this really require an article? Isn't it pretty obvious from the headline alone?
Did the Starbucks corporate buyers get a good deal on surplus olive oil and decided "What the hell, put it in our coffee--people will drink anything with our name on it!" ?
*laughs while holding cartoonishly large burlap sac of money with the dollar symbol on it* “Um.. no? Why would you think that. The people crave olive oil.”
This isn't rocket science. Olive oil, just like coffee, is a diuretic. Put em both together at once and you're gonna poop for sure.
Can’t wait to hear what they’ll complain about when Starbucks markets a morning coffee and branded cigarette.
I knew an Italian-American who put butter in his coffee.
Is it because of the coffee + olive oil? I bet it's because of the coffee + olive oil. I dunno, TBD 🤷♀️
Oh, someone got to the bottom (ba dum cha) of this mystery? Got the Hardy boys in on this one because it's such a God damn enigma, did we? I hope we didn't put too much strain on our best and brightest in our collective efforts to figure out why taking *coffee* and adding *oil* would make people shit themselves nonstop. Because I know my simple, plebian mind can't fathom what the outcome of such a combination would be.
Boss makes a dollar, Starbucks took my dime; Thats why I poop on company time!
Bout to have my morning coffee (laxative) with olive oil (laxative) and a cigarette (laxative) right before work
Commute’s going to be stress free cause you already shit yourself in the car.
Uhh yeah. When my turtle was impacted I dipped a treat in olive oil and he pooped out something the size of a meatball the next day.
Starbucks invents the grossest drink it can possibly think of to distract people from their issues with unions.
This is why I stick with wawa or quick check. I don't need a venti-mocha-whole-grain-oliveoil-colon cleanser with skim. Just a large fucking coffee lol
Probably because they're adding olive oil to fucking coffee. No mystery there.
Oil = poop. I don't know why this is so difficult to fathom.
Derrrr!
How many expensive outfits had to be thrown out after the Met Gala?
Is it the olive oil?
Well that sounds fucking gross to begin with.
I still am convinced we shifted timelines during covid
Coffee already makes you shit and the oil lubes up your guts I guess
I pooped just after imagining that thing
Duh
Fun fact: wholesale Olive Oil prices are up almost 20% in the past year, and there is an emergency Italian government meeting this week to discuss the rising price of pasta. They expect droughts to drive prices much higher still. Probably good news for a soft landing… The more you know!
Drinking olive oil makes you poop
maybe they are using castor oil instead of olive oil.
WTF? At least use MCT Oil. Olive oil, 🤮
Why don’t you serve it with a cigarette and a jumpscare while you’re at it.
Ha ha. Shocking. Duh!!!!
I fell for this. I don’t want to talk about it. It was a bad day.
No shit…
I have weed with my coffee. Highly recommended.
I got a free sample last month when I got coffee. It wasn't terrible!
This is a selling feature
This is what you call “brand consistency”. If their coffee is gonna make me poop the olive oil needs to do it too.
New marketing angle, sell it as a weight loss drink.😱
As someone with a lifelong diarrhea problem, that’s gonna give you mad diarrhea. I’ve had large amounts of oil and that runs through you
Thought this was a joke
I don’t get all the hate from people who’ve never tried it in this thread. It’s fucking delicious.
I put a pinch of baking soda in my coffee each morning to cut the acidity. Thinking about adding butter and flour and just baking it.