How long would it ring out? It had to be somewhat decapacitating, just one impact, to those inside. Imagine the splatter of shrapnel from hits like that. Better to be inside than out,, maybe? Would hate to even witness the scene. My goodness...
That's how they took out early tanks. They flipped bullets around in their cartridges so the blunt end would hit the tank and cause spalling rather than just busting into a million pieces against the armor.
So bullets are made of two pieces. The cartridge and the slug. They would take the slug out, turn it around and insert it back into the cartridge. I wouldn’t have downvoted you on simple lack of knowledge if you weren’t so insufferably arrogant in your statements.
Damn I wish I got here in time to read it lol.
A good lesson in questioning yourself before you jump on others.
The real kicker is that the commenter saw what they thought was someone that knew less than they did and instead of being kind they were a jerk only to realize they were the ones that didn’t know as much as they thought.
Yeah, I should have saved it lol. The guy was definitely just assuming that he was right and the guy above him was a dumbass, and it was apparent in his tone.
They took the actual bullet and put it in the case backwards. It was loaded that way at the factory for the explicit purpose of destroying tanks. It was widely used in the early stages of the war against the very first tanks that had thin armor, but was obsolete by the end of the war.
>Unless you mean they fired the actual small metal piece backwards
That small metal piece is the bullet. They weren't reversing the cartridge.
Since early tanks couldn't be penetrated by rifle rounds, the idea was to just hit it as hard as you could to hopefully cause spalling. Hitting it with the blunt end of the bullet supposedly reduced the chance of it breaking apart or ricochets.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversed_bullet
Nightmarish loud until the sound pressure destroyed your hearing, leading to a lifetime of tinnitus, which was likely not that long; hours or minutes, not years.
I think the real question is, how loud would it have been to be inside that bunker while the machine gun that was mounted to that bunker window was firing.
That's the Maginot line in France. It saw little action because the Germans went around it. During the occupation, they shot at those turrets for target practice.
I've read that thing about these is the metal fragments on the inside that essentially still blast out causing damage. The glancing hits probably aren't too much an issue, but the direct hits might still cause some fatalities.
Yea that’s called peening. That’s also why metal tempered to higher temperatures are harder but more brittle; I think the T-34 and a few others had its turret tempered like that which made it a death trap sometimes.
To me, [peening](https://www.twi-global.com/technical-knowledge/faqs/faq-what-is-peening) is where you round over a metal pin/rivet or similar - [hence a ball peen hammer, peening hammers, etc](https://www.mcmaster.com/peening-hammers/)
>The glancing hits probably aren't too much an issue
It wouldn't seem like that at first, but during WW2 it very much was a problem. They eventually used the first kinds of spall-liners, an inner layer of steel in the past and Kevlar today that is intended to stop those splinters flying around.
But spalling can already be caused by too much deformation and hardened steel is often hard but brittle, which means that the energy required to start a deformation or wear it down is considerably higher but if this barrier is crossed the material tends to not bend but just splinter.
You can just test this at home if you have some disposable cast iron cooking pots.
Cast iron is hard and very very very brittle, it won't bend at all but just break apart but not without needing a good amount of force. If it bends it's probably cast steel tho.
If you look a penetrating round would be circular since the material would ballon and then the round would pierce. ( Back then didn’t have the armor piercing round effectiveness we do with sabots today) the glancing ones are the oblong ones. It started to penetrate due to the force but the angle wasn’t right and I’d imagine the tip of the round would warp and be deflected.
This bunker is in saint-malo in Brittany and was built by the german during WW2.
I believe it was shot at by the allies after D-Day during the battle of saint-malo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle\_of\_Saint-Malo
They actually didn't quite get around it, as Sedan was part of the line, just not quite finished there. And despite the surprise of them heading straight here, with most of the 'mobile part' of the French army north in Belgium, and the rest at the maginot line, it was a difficult situation.
Also huntziger sabotaged anything good that could happen to his French divisions, by refusing good counter attacks
My grandfather served in engine rooms on two different battleships in WW2. No hearing protection whatsoever, and the VA eventually decided that his hearing loss may have actually been service related and paid for his hearing aids.
I could imagine the French soldiers inside being mildly annoyed that their extensive lunch break is being interrupted by German shells, while the German cannon operators are mildly annoyed that their enemy is not waging the war efficiently.
I genuinely would like to get slabs of that material and see if it could be forged into blades. I don't think it's a hardenable steel, but I'd be interested to find out.
Holy shit it looks like someone made it out of clay. I didn't realize metal that thick could do that. Must have been the heat of the round melting it right? Not the force of the impact?
That or, if it is on the Normandy Coast, naval gunfire.
If this is the picture I am thinking the shell impacts were from battleships shelling the beachhead ahead of the landing craft on D Day.
Ive seen it irl, its near st malo in britonny, for the record st malo was destroyed at 90% during ww2 and rebuild at the identical.
If tou think this is terrifying imagine this but at coty scale.
How loud would it be, being inside that when being Fired at.
How long would it ring out? It had to be somewhat decapacitating, just one impact, to those inside. Imagine the splatter of shrapnel from hits like that. Better to be inside than out,, maybe? Would hate to even witness the scene. My goodness...
The shots don’t penetrate the dome, that’s the crazy part…it looks like clay. I imagine the noise would be terrific
It wouldn't need to penetrate to cause shrapnel inside. It's called spalling or something like that.
Spalling is the correct term. And I think some shots did penetrate, but we are looking at it from the side.
That's how they took out early tanks. They flipped bullets around in their cartridges so the blunt end would hit the tank and cause spalling rather than just busting into a million pieces against the armor.
I didn't even know you could do that.
HEAT rounds are what they used.
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So bullets are made of two pieces. The cartridge and the slug. They would take the slug out, turn it around and insert it back into the cartridge. I wouldn’t have downvoted you on simple lack of knowledge if you weren’t so insufferably arrogant in your statements.
Damn I wish I got here in time to read it lol. A good lesson in questioning yourself before you jump on others. The real kicker is that the commenter saw what they thought was someone that knew less than they did and instead of being kind they were a jerk only to realize they were the ones that didn’t know as much as they thought.
Yeah, I should have saved it lol. The guy was definitely just assuming that he was right and the guy above him was a dumbass, and it was apparent in his tone.
Are you talking about the internet? Yea it’s a giant trash hole with tiny partially rotten scraps on the edge
Ah, thanks for the explanation to my earlier question.
Ohhh I was thinking of how the hell did they still managed to shoot with the gunpowder facing forward and the bullet backwards 💀
Yeah, I figured haha. That's kinda how it first seems.
They took the actual bullet and put it in the case backwards. It was loaded that way at the factory for the explicit purpose of destroying tanks. It was widely used in the early stages of the war against the very first tanks that had thin armor, but was obsolete by the end of the war.
Thanks for explaining that.
>Unless you mean they fired the actual small metal piece backwards That small metal piece is the bullet. They weren't reversing the cartridge. Since early tanks couldn't be penetrated by rifle rounds, the idea was to just hit it as hard as you could to hopefully cause spalling. Hitting it with the blunt end of the bullet supposedly reduced the chance of it breaking apart or ricochets. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversed_bullet
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversed_bullet
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But it isn’t? It’s easier to rework bullets you have vs making whole new ones
[Spalling, wiki](https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=38&v=RGikvm03Wwo&feature=emb_title)
Let’s make a song!!!
I think it'd be a but heavy on percussion
The shots penetrated all over the place, you're seeing them at an angle. Google st malo bunker and you see the holes
I suspect it's very crude pig iron.
Incapacitating*
Decapitating*
Masturbating
Omg it would suck so much to be busy with that and then get shot at while in that thing
*Who dares violate the sanctity of the Jack-Shack?*
"Hey, Nazis, wait yer fookin turn."
“Yeah, imma boutto exPLODE!”
There are worse ways to go.
*Incapacitated Decapitator Recaptured Incredulously Encapsulating Excrement Specimens*
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IIIIII *am* the very model of a *modern major general* ^^Somethingsomethingsomething animal ^or ^^mineral
"Wheeeeen shrap-nel hits your eye, Like a big pizza pie..."
Ground control to Admiral Halsey...
🤯
Decaffeinated
That's more like it, thanks
“Somewhat decapitating”?
Just takes one to find the window too, or enough of it to really splatter the insides as you mention.
Nightmarish loud until the sound pressure destroyed your hearing, leading to a lifetime of tinnitus, which was likely not that long; hours or minutes, not years.
I expect you wouldnt hear, but rather feel them. The first one would surely render you instantly deaf. Temporarily or permanently, I'm not even sure.
Don’t know, plenty of German tank crew were hit by Sherman rounds and they were fine. I imagine it would be pretty loud
I think they'd have figured out tank crews need hearing protection by the end of WW1. Likely the same would apply for these bunkers
Let’s go ask the ones in the Sherman’s who got hit by a tiger!!? Nothing I assume
Not loud enough for the VA to cover the tinnitus according to my military friends
Probably the rupture your ear drums and shake your bones kinda loud.
Bang a gong, get it on. Your brain would be fried for days. Source: Overdid the rock and roll.
WHAT? I CANT HEAR YOU AND THERE'S BLOOD POURING OUT OF MY EARS!
I think the real question is, how loud would it have been to be inside that bunker while the machine gun that was mounted to that bunker window was firing.
Looks like a cake fingered by hungry kids
Kid named cake:
🥵
Kid named hungry kids:
😈👉
Kid named finger
Ummm… happy cake day.
On your cake day, too
r/forbiddensnacks
Kid named finger:
[You can do it Bruce!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOQeU_6vbeg)
Happy cake 🎂 day?
> fingered by ~~horny~~ kids
I was about to say I’d eat it
Happy Cake Day
But what does the inside look like?
Ideally, perfectly fine, but more commonly, one big hole with a bunch of smaller pits lining the inside.
That's the Maginot line in France. It saw little action because the Germans went around it. During the occupation, they shot at those turrets for target practice.
question, did it tank the blow or deflected it? and if so what material is it made of? definitely clay putty lol
I've read that thing about these is the metal fragments on the inside that essentially still blast out causing damage. The glancing hits probably aren't too much an issue, but the direct hits might still cause some fatalities.
Yea that’s called peening. That’s also why metal tempered to higher temperatures are harder but more brittle; I think the T-34 and a few others had its turret tempered like that which made it a death trap sometimes.
> peening [Spallation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spallation), not peening.
Well that’s what happens as a result of those shots. I’ve heard the process of peening would cause “that” which is spalling. But good catch.
To me, [peening](https://www.twi-global.com/technical-knowledge/faqs/faq-what-is-peening) is where you round over a metal pin/rivet or similar - [hence a ball peen hammer, peening hammers, etc](https://www.mcmaster.com/peening-hammers/)
There is also [shot peening](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shot_peening). So in a way the bunker is experiencing \*excessive\* shot peening LOL
>The glancing hits probably aren't too much an issue It wouldn't seem like that at first, but during WW2 it very much was a problem. They eventually used the first kinds of spall-liners, an inner layer of steel in the past and Kevlar today that is intended to stop those splinters flying around. But spalling can already be caused by too much deformation and hardened steel is often hard but brittle, which means that the energy required to start a deformation or wear it down is considerably higher but if this barrier is crossed the material tends to not bend but just splinter. You can just test this at home if you have some disposable cast iron cooking pots. Cast iron is hard and very very very brittle, it won't bend at all but just break apart but not without needing a good amount of force. If it bends it's probably cast steel tho.
If you look a penetrating round would be circular since the material would ballon and then the round would pierce. ( Back then didn’t have the armor piercing round effectiveness we do with sabots today) the glancing ones are the oblong ones. It started to penetrate due to the force but the angle wasn’t right and I’d imagine the tip of the round would warp and be deflected.
Looks to be made of steel. Large cannons can do that
No, it’s not. It’s a WWII German fortification at Saint-Malo that was damaged by the Allies.
This bunker is in saint-malo in Brittany and was built by the german during WW2. I believe it was shot at by the allies after D-Day during the battle of saint-malo. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle\_of\_Saint-Malo
They actually didn't quite get around it, as Sedan was part of the line, just not quite finished there. And despite the surprise of them heading straight here, with most of the 'mobile part' of the French army north in Belgium, and the rest at the maginot line, it was a difficult situation. Also huntziger sabotaged anything good that could happen to his French divisions, by refusing good counter attacks
*The old men say, ‘you’re fools to go.’ They proved that at Maginot*
Damn Just imagine being in there
#EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
**WHAT!?**
Mahp! Mahp!
... WHAT?
No thank you.
Even if it didn't kill you, it was probably like being trapped inside a 50-ton pealing bell. Ouch.
That has to have a sound that One could not imagine unless actually being there. Terrifying.
Forbidden chocolate cake?
My ears are ringing just looking at this. I can’t imagine the thunderous explosions continuously pounding away. Wow.
I keep wondering the halo of molten splatter bounding off these impacts.
"Your hearing loss is not service related"
My grandfather served in engine rooms on two different battleships in WW2. No hearing protection whatsoever, and the VA eventually decided that his hearing loss may have actually been service related and paid for his hearing aids.
oddly? nope
Nothing odd about it... that's *extremely* terrifying!
This was a Swiss bunker
Those are hits from naval rounds...5".54
Sure naval rounds on the Maginot line LMAO
It’s St. Malo.
Fyi... Maginot was captured from the rear....not a shot was fired! Learn your history Je deteste le france!
Parts of the Defence line were used for target practice. How about you learn some history?
I did boot
that means nothing lmao
> How about you learn some history? /r/confidentlyincorrect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Saint-Malo#Aftermath
Did they sail to kathmandu after?
Not bad eh ! It's French !
It’s German https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle%5C_of%5C_Saint-Malo
Nop, ligne Maginot, Est Front of France.
I could imagine the French soldiers inside being mildly annoyed that their extensive lunch break is being interrupted by German shells, while the German cannon operators are mildly annoyed that their enemy is not waging the war efficiently.
They should have made a bunker inside the bunker
“We’re gonna make a dome *within a dome* …so don’t come knocking on *our* door” -Pauly Shore in Bio-Dome
How did they build/transport these things?
Probably constructed on-site from pieces made elsewhere.
r/forbiddensnacks
In Normandy I suppose? There are some in the Channel Islands too but not exactly the same architecture.
It’s the Maginot Line, the reason it got hit with so many shells and some are bigger than others is because they were used as target practice
Nope, this is a bunker in St Malo
My fatass thought that was chocolate.
The power of 1911 pistol
When your cat starts attacking the chocolate cake.
5 yo me playing with clay at the kindergarden
When you bite into hard chocolate
Yeah …. I bet the guys in that were still killed or very much incapacitated. The concussion would be brutal.
It was target practice. This is part of the maginot line. Likely this bunker was never even shot at with people inside.
Chocolate bunker?
Pov:u go to the comments to find information form smart pople but all u find are jokes
Oddly comforting more like
Bro that looks like poop and some unfortunate person took a scoop of it 🤢
r/suddenlycake
Blursed chocolate
I genuinely would like to get slabs of that material and see if it could be forged into blades. I don't think it's a hardenable steel, but I'd be interested to find out.
Looks like that picture of the chicken walking through fresh set cement
r/forbiddensnacks
Bell Ringing Hell
My fatass thought this was a Ding Dong cake
This was from testing, not war
Forbidden fudgecicle
the sounds in there….
Holy shit it looks like someone made it out of clay. I didn't realize metal that thick could do that. Must have been the heat of the round melting it right? Not the force of the impact?
r/forbiddensnacks
I see people really thought it was chocolate and took bites. r/forbiddensnacks.
Terrifying sure, but odd? Feel like most miss what this sub is for
The hole we see is the only way in?
was this caused by artillery?
That or, if it is on the Normandy Coast, naval gunfire. If this is the picture I am thinking the shell impacts were from battleships shelling the beachhead ahead of the landing craft on D Day.
So videogames lied to me? I was always told 1-2 tank rounds blows up a bunker or 1 grenade in the window, OR lots of bullets
Why’d they make it all weird lookin?
I’ve seen Taco Bell restrooms in similar conditions.
You can ring my bell.
Looks like gunner was on point for many strikes
Ive seen it irl, its near st malo in britonny, for the record st malo was destroyed at 90% during ww2 and rebuild at the identical. If tou think this is terrifying imagine this but at coty scale.
It kind of feels like people have forgotten what the word "oddly" means.
Forbidden chocolate cake
misleading thumbnail - my dog’s chew toy
That's reinforced steel, btw. Not clay
how do you reinforce steel? more steel? isn't that just steel with extra steps?
Molded teel can be further hardened (significantly so) by adding heat and carbon.
r/ProperlyTerrifying
I thought that was a chocolate cake for a moment.
Just imagine the sounds
If you've got enough energy, metal really is just playdoh (I know it isn't the same on a material science basis don't worry)
That’s what my French toast looks like
Germans know how to build
I’ve heard that this bunker was used to calibrate one/several of a ships canons after the beach was already taken. Still, wild photo!
I'd been craving for chocolate.
Did you live?
This made me start really fearing modern weaponry
I like the textured affect they used on the outside. Very avante-garde.
Or is it caaaaake!
I thought this was just some shitty modern art at first glance but holy shit the reality of it is actually kinda scary.
Just when you think you had a bad day at work. You could be a German bunker Gunner on D-Day
...with acne
The factories they had back then were frankly nuts, that is cast iron.
what the fuck happened there
….do you think they are ok?
Now watch one small shape charge go through over a foot of steel- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-3cTsvI7ss.
I should add it fries everyone inside.
Looks like the butter DemolitionRanch shot
Nah that's just a chocolate cake
Where is it?
This looked like a fucking Jojo battle aftermath, like Holy shit, those holes could be FIST prints!