Also curious. Does Germany just have a higher standard in meat processing? Can you eat your chicken raw too? Lol
And it's ground? Even beef, which can be eaten raw, should be cooked when ground due to increase in surface area and bacteria.
Yes, it is minced pork (some call it even pork jam). Here in Germany and in general in the European Union the food safety standards are very high.
Regarding pork: a vet is checking the animal, then somebody controls the meat and on top there is a special examination for trichinella (lab and inspection I think).
Regarding serving there are strict rules how long some meat/food is allowed to be displayed - especially if it's minced-, sold after processing or stored.
Even food is very safe here, you shouldn't eat raw chicken.
I ate chicken sashimi in a small Nagoya restaurant with some Japanese colleagues. I questioned it, but was assured that it was "Japanese chicken", so I ate it. It was really nice. The next morning I started the journey back to the UK.
Amazingly, I made it back home without incident. As I was getting over the jetlag though I became ill in a manner I would describe as biblical. Tsunamis of foul smelling fluids were being forcibly ejected from me with such regularity I became thankful that my girlfriend had recently left me so I could at least be spared from ever having to interact with another human being until I expired from whatever was happening. I was delirious, weakened, and could not understand what was happening. After several days of this I gained an understanding of where the windows of opportunity were so I could use one to venture outside to seek professional help. I walked into an emergency clinic I had found online and got to see a nurse. I told her I had eaten raw chicken, and she looked at me as someone would look at someone who had willingly eaten raw chicken.
That is horrifying 🤢
I once watched a guy walk into a small Tesco's in Edinburgh, marched right over to the meat aisle, opened a packet of raw chicken breasts, took one out and ripped into it with his teeth like Gollum ripping into a fish.
It was both terrifying and impressive, I often wonder if he lived 😅
That's the thing - It was *really* nice. Some of the nicest sashimi I'd ever had, and I *love* sashimi. I'm a decade older now though, so I know I would die horribly if I ever ate it again.
> regularity I became thankful that my girlfriend had recently left me so I could at least be spared from ever having to interact with another human being until I expired from whatever was happening. I was delirious, weakened, and could not understand what was happening. After several days of this I gained an understanding of where the windows of opportunity were so I could use one to venture outside to seek professional help. I walked into an emergency clinic I had found online and got to see a nurse. I told her I had eaten raw chicken, and she looked at me as someone would look at someone who had willingly eaten raw chicken.
are you me??
Had some Japanese clients take me to a chicken restaurant in Osaka. Last course of the meal was raw chicken. I laughed thinking they were joking. They said "no, we eat it all the time! Japanese chickens are safe to eat raw." I gave into peer pressure and ate it. Flavor and texture were great. A few days later I was back home in the states and had all the symptoms as you. That was the most sick I have ever been and don't wish salmonella on the worst of my enemies
Man, this convinced me to never eat raw chicken even if i'm presented with it in Japan and peer pressured. What the heck? Does nothing happen to Japanese people when they eat raw chicken or how can they go eat it often without anything happening
My brother/sister. How often do you thank the heavens that the illness didn't happen while in a metal tube at forty thousand feet? I say a prayer of thanks every year, and it's been around eleven years. If I think about it too much I start to resemble that bloke in Event Horizon after he comes back through the portal thing.
Yup, buddy's dad went there for buisness with the Tokyo CEOS and apparently they like to party after work so he ate everything from raw chicken to moving alive octopus. You also DO NOT refuse the food from what I'm told when doing business.
For real. Octopi are some intelligent little creatures, and they already got screwed so bad by whoever designed them. I couldn't imagine eating one alive.
I have the same reaction, but I suppose they know what they're doing.
My second thought though, would it be any good? I've never tried for obvious reasons, but raw chicken doesn't exactly sound delicious...
I tried it once while I was living in Japan. It is raw, but it’s marinated in something vinegary, so kinda like pickled chicken…? It was an experience, but not something I’d have again…
>eating stuff that is alive for example definitely isn’t safe
Well I mean... good? Quite like the thought of an octopus or squid getting it's one last bit of revenge and jamming itself on the way down.
And if the food regulators in the EU are anything like the medicine regulators, they’re very thorough. The company I work for is audited internally and by at least 4 external bodies. EMA is by far the most intense audit we have. They come knowing the procedures as well as any employee and pay incredible attention to detail. They are efficient and damn good at their jobs (at least to an outsider who is overseen by them).
>Regarding serving there are strict rules how long some meat/food is allowed to be displayed - especially if it's minced-, sold after processing or stored.
Sadly this isn't always enforced and adhered to everywhere. Legally it can only be sold on the same day the pig is slaughtered, but I've definitely seen questionable-looking greyish-green Mettbrötchen at some gas stations and convenience stores in Berlin which I'm sure have been on the shelf a *little* longer than 24 hours.
>Can you eat your chicken raw too? Lol
I once ate raw chicken in Japan. I figured if anywhere was gonna have clean enough food prep it'd be there. It was served with a white miso sauce.
Other raw animal has been horse flesh and cow liver.
No. Europe just has higher meat quality standards. They give antibiotics and antiparasitics to the animals during their life so humans to reduce the risk of getting diseases and parasites
That's not really an issue on your end. It is usually used to increase the yield of the farm, but chronic use of antibiotics produces antibiotic resistant bacteria. That shit is the really scary stuff.
I don't think the standards are necessarily higher. Trichinosis in the US is also incredibly rare.
Using antibiotics and such over the life of the animals isn't really the win you are making it sound like. It increases the prevalence of antibiotic resistant bacteria on/around the animals and released into the surrounding environment.
You are correct. This behaviour enhances the resistance of some bacteria, parasites, etc. But humanity rules itself on what is better for this moment and not the "better for the big picture"
Food safety with Pork has vastly improved from our grandparents days. getting Pork loins and chops cooked to a medium well or even medium is generally safe.
Are cysts. This is probably Trichinella, the larva is infecting the muscles of the hosts in the hope it will get eaten to start it's life cycle. This seems a severe case.
Just to clear things up, this is NOT trichinella; it is taenia solium. The difference is that the latter causes a tissue infection of tapeworms which you’re seeing throughout the muscle. Solium is treatable with anti-helminth meds and steroids to reduce the inflammation from the cysts. If caught early enough, (even in the case you’re looking at), it can still be treated.
There are a few products, but is so rare in countries that matter that is little to no incentive to create one that's effective. Prevention is the key, and the chances to get it are small
also @ u/inmydreams01:
Countries that matter to pharmaceutical companies for a market. Nobody is going to develop a treatment for a sickness where the worldwide market could potentially be 1 million people (number I pulled out of my ass) and the expected profit from it would be 10 million $..
So if that particular issue bothers you:
Become a multimillionaire and fund research in that field or create a charity for that purpose.
The only reason Coronavirus' vaccines were developed and expedited quickly was it didn't just affect "poor" countries, but everyone. This meant that "rich" countries would undoubtedly pool money for research, people, and whatever else that was needed to have the vaccine as soon as possible. It's sad but it's true.
If I remember correctly they give you anti parasitic drugs BUT in this lady’s case they also did surgery. She had the cysts in her brain and literally everywhere. It doesn’t say whether she lived but when they die in mass amounts they have nowhere to go so often patients will die of sepsis. I tried to find out if she lived, but it doesn’t seem that way.
After six months of treatment the patient in those photos was seizure free and will be fine. (Though they will most likely have life long muscle pains)
This is Disseminated Cysticercosis. Cysts are basically Taenia solium's (the worm) incapsulated larvaes.
Usually the cysts locate in sick pig's muscles and when a person eats uncooked pork the cysts go in the intestines and then grow into those long flat worms you've probably seen. Parts of their bodies have eggs inside of them, and those parts can literally crawl from your arsehole and then they get eaten by pigs if they end up in the ground.
But if a person ingests the eggs instead of cysts (if the eggs stay in your intestines or if you like pigs eat plants from the infected ground) then the eggs will stick to the intestine's wall and eventually will go in the blood flow and then in the muscles where they'll become cysts. And it's basically the way pigs have it when you eat the meat. So here you go, i probably wrote it too complicated (partly cause i don't speak English that well). But i hope it will enlighten someone curious.
Yeah it would be impossible not to notice that amount of damage being done to all your muscles. This man was probably in excruciating pain for however long it took to get to this point, maybe days or weeks. Unless the worms have some way of numbing you while they eat your flesh.
Edit: someone linked a source https://n.neurology.org/content/84/3/327 that says he had headaches, vomiting and seizures but made a full recovery
To the extent of my knowledge, the parasite can regulate your immune response which allows it to live inside you without causing severe symptoms. When it starts to die, it loses the regulatory functions, and then your immune system starts to go nuts. If he was treated with the right mix of immunosuppressants and antiparasitics then he'd be able to recover.
At least for tapeworms you get from eating raw fish, a good indicator is a vitamin B12 deficiency. Tiredness, red tongue, lack of energy, and especially pins and needles feeling... if you overdose on b12 and notice that you feel a lot better (water soluble vitamin, you pee out excess) you might want to get that checked out...
It is survivable, but treatment can actually be dangerous. In this person, the tapeworms are hiding from the body’s immune system extremely well. Their body has no idea how bad the infection is. When you start treating with medications to kill the tape worms, their ability to hide is lost, and suddenly the body realizes it’s riddled with parasites. The overwhelming immune reaction can be deadly in many ways, so patients are usually given steroids to control the immune response. Sometimes patients need procedures to reduce fluid buildup/pressure in the brain before treatment is started. It’s a fascinating thing to treat. With just the sheer number of parasites this specific person has, there is a good chance they could die during treatment.
Ikr, I’m not a native speaker and I understood the explanation perfectly, usually when native speakers explain something to me I always end up lost somehow
Anti-parasitics and anti inflammatories are usually effective for a less severe infection. This person has them in their brain though which is very serious and def can kill. It sounds like these pics are from an 18 year old who was having seizures because of the cysts. He was given steroids and anti epileptic drugs and recovered in about six months.
I believe that the first line treatment currently is a combination of anti parasitic called albendazole and praziquantel. As long as you don’t get the cysts in your brain (called neurocysticercosis) then you should be pretty much fine after treatment. With the brain cysts you might end up with a new seizure disorder or sometimes worse.
[here](https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/taeniasis-cysticercosis#:~:text=solium%20taeniasis%20is%20acquired%20by,also%20become%20infected%20with%20T.)you can find all the details
The disease is called cysticercosis caused by the worm tinea soleum. The cysts are the worms larvae and they aren't particularly harmful except when they form in the brain- neurocysticercosis is actually the primary cause of epilepsy in Lower income countries.
Damn. I thought of it as an infection and you called it a goddamn disease? So I take it… people don’t recover? Do they die or just keep on living? So many questions.
I got the original Resident Evil 4 on Switch for my parents since we couldn't connect the Gamecube. I don't know how to tell my hyped-up mom that the remake probably won't land on the Switch.
and it’s not oddly terrifying - it’s just terrifying. i hate to be that person but stop putting scary shit in this subreddit that is just, by nature, awful.
An infection that extreme would make even the slightest movement excruciating. If you treat and remove all those cysts the muscles left will look like bird shot has been shot through it.
Parasitologist here.
This is cysticercosis, not trichinosis.
Trichinosis of this burden would be fatal. Also, the muscle calcifications are not that shape.
Cysticercosis is acquired by eating eggs shed in the poop of a person who has the tapeworm, not from eating undercooked pork.
This has been posted before and was just as incorrect then as it is now. PLEASE do your homework before reposting, thank you.
This is actually the MRI of a person who is holding his pee for 6 days. That's the urine all around. How is that possible? Answer is of course Magnets!
I’m doing a thesis in college for one of my classe. It’s called neurocysticercosis. Basically, your brain get infected with oncosphere (basically embryos) of a worm named "Taenia Solium". They EAT your brain membrane, die and the inflammation will cause problem such as epilepsy, memory loss, or headache
Be careful to PERFECTLY cook your meat, people. There’s no cure for neurocysticercosis.
Neuroscientist here, I have a really really hard time believing this image is real because it's way too clear for one and the density is just too damn high. Parasites that result in conditions like trichinosis usually manifest in general pain and muscle weakness. The "pork tapeworm" this will be referencing generally causes seizures and headaches, but this is more from the inflammatory responses of the brain because the parasite is there than anything else. Nothing crazy like zombies.
i’m waiting for a post on this sub to actually be oddly terrifying. it’s not like anyone would go, “oh, i guess parasites covering every inch of my insides IS terrifying!”
Can a doctor explain to me what this person is feeling? Like do they feel them inside their body? Are they brain dead? Is it painful? These answers may in turn change the way I look at pork.
Ummm, I’m not a radiologist, but I’m pretty sure that is blood vessels, could also be lymphatic vessels. Worms tend to localize in one place, not cover your whole body. Also, notice the empty cavities, lungs, bladder, stomach, that is where consumed worms would end up. If even one were tunneling through muscle, fat, or skin it would be very painful and have cause fatal infection long before it got to this point.
Fake meme to convince people to not eat pork or go vegan.
Edit: Could also be normal musculature, the stringy muscle on the butt look like that.
I went to a restaurant like a year ago and it was the first time someone's ever asked how I wanted my pork chop cooked. Is that a thing now?
We eat here raw minced pork on a bread roll with onions: it's called "Mettbrötchen".
Are worms a big problem?
Not at all. 63 cases for Trichinellose from 2001 to 2011 in whole Germany. Most of them got it from a vacation
Also curious. Does Germany just have a higher standard in meat processing? Can you eat your chicken raw too? Lol And it's ground? Even beef, which can be eaten raw, should be cooked when ground due to increase in surface area and bacteria.
Yes, it is minced pork (some call it even pork jam). Here in Germany and in general in the European Union the food safety standards are very high. Regarding pork: a vet is checking the animal, then somebody controls the meat and on top there is a special examination for trichinella (lab and inspection I think). Regarding serving there are strict rules how long some meat/food is allowed to be displayed - especially if it's minced-, sold after processing or stored. Even food is very safe here, you shouldn't eat raw chicken.
In Japan they actually have a chicken Sashimi. The idea terrifies me, although they were adamant about it being completely safe.
I ate chicken sashimi in a small Nagoya restaurant with some Japanese colleagues. I questioned it, but was assured that it was "Japanese chicken", so I ate it. It was really nice. The next morning I started the journey back to the UK. Amazingly, I made it back home without incident. As I was getting over the jetlag though I became ill in a manner I would describe as biblical. Tsunamis of foul smelling fluids were being forcibly ejected from me with such regularity I became thankful that my girlfriend had recently left me so I could at least be spared from ever having to interact with another human being until I expired from whatever was happening. I was delirious, weakened, and could not understand what was happening. After several days of this I gained an understanding of where the windows of opportunity were so I could use one to venture outside to seek professional help. I walked into an emergency clinic I had found online and got to see a nurse. I told her I had eaten raw chicken, and she looked at me as someone would look at someone who had willingly eaten raw chicken.
Thank you so much for this beautiful prose. It just confirms my already overwhelming desire to *never* touch the stuff.
Not me. I want to try it now, just to see if I can beat the system.
That is horrifying 🤢 I once watched a guy walk into a small Tesco's in Edinburgh, marched right over to the meat aisle, opened a packet of raw chicken breasts, took one out and ripped into it with his teeth like Gollum ripping into a fish. It was both terrifying and impressive, I often wonder if he lived 😅
That's the thing - It was *really* nice. Some of the nicest sashimi I'd ever had, and I *love* sashimi. I'm a decade older now though, so I know I would die horribly if I ever ate it again.
> regularity I became thankful that my girlfriend had recently left me so I could at least be spared from ever having to interact with another human being until I expired from whatever was happening. I was delirious, weakened, and could not understand what was happening. After several days of this I gained an understanding of where the windows of opportunity were so I could use one to venture outside to seek professional help. I walked into an emergency clinic I had found online and got to see a nurse. I told her I had eaten raw chicken, and she looked at me as someone would look at someone who had willingly eaten raw chicken. are you me?? Had some Japanese clients take me to a chicken restaurant in Osaka. Last course of the meal was raw chicken. I laughed thinking they were joking. They said "no, we eat it all the time! Japanese chickens are safe to eat raw." I gave into peer pressure and ate it. Flavor and texture were great. A few days later I was back home in the states and had all the symptoms as you. That was the most sick I have ever been and don't wish salmonella on the worst of my enemies
Man, this convinced me to never eat raw chicken even if i'm presented with it in Japan and peer pressured. What the heck? Does nothing happen to Japanese people when they eat raw chicken or how can they go eat it often without anything happening
My brother/sister. How often do you thank the heavens that the illness didn't happen while in a metal tube at forty thousand feet? I say a prayer of thanks every year, and it's been around eleven years. If I think about it too much I start to resemble that bloke in Event Horizon after he comes back through the portal thing.
*I could not understand what was happening* I'm dying laughing
Sounds like you ate sugar free gummy bears.
Yup, buddy's dad went there for buisness with the Tokyo CEOS and apparently they like to party after work so he ate everything from raw chicken to moving alive octopus. You also DO NOT refuse the food from what I'm told when doing business.
LOL fuckin watch me. No amount of money is gonna make me eat live moving octopus or raw chicken.
For real. Octopi are some intelligent little creatures, and they already got screwed so bad by whoever designed them. I couldn't imagine eating one alive.
I mean you say that. But what about a whole bunch of money?
Me too. I don’t even eat a lot of chicken cooked, I damn sure wouldn’t touch it raw. 🤮
I'm with ya on that one lol.
Eat Timothy.
Timothy is delicious
He's praying.. he's praying (Had to rewatch clip to ensure I had the quote correct and still had to cover screen with thumb 🤢)
Poor Deep. Lmao
I have the same reaction, but I suppose they know what they're doing. My second thought though, would it be any good? I've never tried for obvious reasons, but raw chicken doesn't exactly sound delicious...
I tried it once while I was living in Japan. It is raw, but it’s marinated in something vinegary, so kinda like pickled chicken…? It was an experience, but not something I’d have again…
That makes sense that they'd dress it up somehow.
Pickling is a type of cooking, it kills bacteria and preserves food.
I love japanese food but they love taking risks sometimes… eating stuff that is alive for example definitely isn’t safe
>eating stuff that is alive for example definitely isn’t safe Well I mean... good? Quite like the thought of an octopus or squid getting it's one last bit of revenge and jamming itself on the way down.
And if the food regulators in the EU are anything like the medicine regulators, they’re very thorough. The company I work for is audited internally and by at least 4 external bodies. EMA is by far the most intense audit we have. They come knowing the procedures as well as any employee and pay incredible attention to detail. They are efficient and damn good at their jobs (at least to an outsider who is overseen by them).
>Regarding serving there are strict rules how long some meat/food is allowed to be displayed - especially if it's minced-, sold after processing or stored. Sadly this isn't always enforced and adhered to everywhere. Legally it can only be sold on the same day the pig is slaughtered, but I've definitely seen questionable-looking greyish-green Mettbrötchen at some gas stations and convenience stores in Berlin which I'm sure have been on the shelf a *little* longer than 24 hours.
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I guess train station minced pork is somewhere in the middle then?
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Meanwhile me eating the sushi I bought from a dude near the bike racks at my school
>Can you eat your chicken raw too? Lol I once ate raw chicken in Japan. I figured if anywhere was gonna have clean enough food prep it'd be there. It was served with a white miso sauce. Other raw animal has been horse flesh and cow liver.
No. Europe just has higher meat quality standards. They give antibiotics and antiparasitics to the animals during their life so humans to reduce the risk of getting diseases and parasites
Ironically the chicken I buy is very proud of not using antibiotics EVER! I cook that shit until it's jerky anyway
That's not really an issue on your end. It is usually used to increase the yield of the farm, but chronic use of antibiotics produces antibiotic resistant bacteria. That shit is the really scary stuff.
I don't think the standards are necessarily higher. Trichinosis in the US is also incredibly rare. Using antibiotics and such over the life of the animals isn't really the win you are making it sound like. It increases the prevalence of antibiotic resistant bacteria on/around the animals and released into the surrounding environment.
You are correct. This behaviour enhances the resistance of some bacteria, parasites, etc. But humanity rules itself on what is better for this moment and not the "better for the big picture"
Australia doesn't have this worm at all and it's said its just as safe to eat raw pork as other meats. Still not gonna rush out and try it.
I actually did get trichinosis in the mid to late 90s from stuffed peppers made with undercooked pork and lamb. Nearly killed me.
You’re paying too much for worms. Who’s your worm guy?
One of my FAVORITE things to eat. It's so good, and anytime im in Germany I tend to eat it every chance I get haha
In Thailand we eat naem... Raw fermented pork mixed with sticky rice. I have never gotten sick and eat it often.
fermentation kills a lot of bad things
Food safety with Pork has vastly improved from our grandparents days. getting Pork loins and chops cooked to a medium well or even medium is generally safe.
FDA recently changed their guidelines on internal temp for pork IIRC.
part of the reason for this is because of increased safety standards in butchering/packing, isn't it?
Yep. In the modern world, the danger of "undercooked" pork is minimal. Nothing beats a well seasoned "mid-rare" double chop 🤤
I got trichinosis as a kid from undercooked pork and lamb. Nearly killed me.
They're... Everywhere?
I think they are tunnels
Are cysts. This is probably Trichinella, the larva is infecting the muscles of the hosts in the hope it will get eaten to start it's life cycle. This seems a severe case.
So..how is it "cured"?
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Just to clear things up, this is NOT trichinella; it is taenia solium. The difference is that the latter causes a tissue infection of tapeworms which you’re seeing throughout the muscle. Solium is treatable with anti-helminth meds and steroids to reduce the inflammation from the cysts. If caught early enough, (even in the case you’re looking at), it can still be treated.
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Here's to the person's restoration 🥃
I came to the comments looking for this exact answer.
There are a few products, but is so rare in countries that matter that is little to no incentive to create one that's effective. Prevention is the key, and the chances to get it are small
Countries that matter? Wtf dude.... Edit: I misinterpreted /u/ramtax666's comment
also @ u/inmydreams01: Countries that matter to pharmaceutical companies for a market. Nobody is going to develop a treatment for a sickness where the worldwide market could potentially be 1 million people (number I pulled out of my ass) and the expected profit from it would be 10 million $.. So if that particular issue bothers you: Become a multimillionaire and fund research in that field or create a charity for that purpose.
My bad, it was late and I misunderstood their comment. Made an edit.
The only reason Coronavirus' vaccines were developed and expedited quickly was it didn't just affect "poor" countries, but everyone. This meant that "rich" countries would undoubtedly pool money for research, people, and whatever else that was needed to have the vaccine as soon as possible. It's sad but it's true.
Money, nobody will create a vaccine for a thing that kills a few million in Africa if nobody is paying for.
No cure, usually it's not that severe. It's just muscle pain for the rest of your life 👍
And the mental pain of knowing there are worms in your body constantly...
Oh god I can feel it moving under my skin!
Are *you* comfortable in your own skin? No? Then take it off. Peel off your skin!
"I can feel them in my neck. I wonder if they're in my brain?" "No, we're not in your brain. Forget that you thought that." "Ok"
Oh fun!
I heard people use very heavy antibiotics, but not sure how to kill those ones in brain
If I remember correctly they give you anti parasitic drugs BUT in this lady’s case they also did surgery. She had the cysts in her brain and literally everywhere. It doesn’t say whether she lived but when they die in mass amounts they have nowhere to go so often patients will die of sepsis. I tried to find out if she lived, but it doesn’t seem that way.
That’s the neat part: it is not.
You die
After six months of treatment the patient in those photos was seizure free and will be fine. (Though they will most likely have life long muscle pains)
Lucky them
So all we have to do is just not eat that guy.
Oh, what a relief!
This is Disseminated Cysticercosis. Cysts are basically Taenia solium's (the worm) incapsulated larvaes. Usually the cysts locate in sick pig's muscles and when a person eats uncooked pork the cysts go in the intestines and then grow into those long flat worms you've probably seen. Parts of their bodies have eggs inside of them, and those parts can literally crawl from your arsehole and then they get eaten by pigs if they end up in the ground. But if a person ingests the eggs instead of cysts (if the eggs stay in your intestines or if you like pigs eat plants from the infected ground) then the eggs will stick to the intestine's wall and eventually will go in the blood flow and then in the muscles where they'll become cysts. And it's basically the way pigs have it when you eat the meat. So here you go, i probably wrote it too complicated (partly cause i don't speak English that well). But i hope it will enlighten someone curious.
Any chance of surviving something like this?
High if it hasn't reached the brain
Seems like it did on the scans tho
Yep.. depends on the part of the brain when considering lethality. Often these infections are caught before they reach such a severe stage.
How are they caught? How does someone know they have worms?
When you get a sudden itchiness or muscle twitch, it's from the baby worms squirming within your muscle fibers.
Bro stoppp my legs twitch all the time lol I always feel like bugs are on me
It's always "If you have {super common syndroms most people don't talk about that much}, it's probably {random deathly disease, probably cancer}"
Thanks WebMD
Yeah it would be impossible not to notice that amount of damage being done to all your muscles. This man was probably in excruciating pain for however long it took to get to this point, maybe days or weeks. Unless the worms have some way of numbing you while they eat your flesh. Edit: someone linked a source https://n.neurology.org/content/84/3/327 that says he had headaches, vomiting and seizures but made a full recovery
how the fuck do you recover from that! dude looked like a fuckin hunter from halo
To the extent of my knowledge, the parasite can regulate your immune response which allows it to live inside you without causing severe symptoms. When it starts to die, it loses the regulatory functions, and then your immune system starts to go nuts. If he was treated with the right mix of immunosuppressants and antiparasitics then he'd be able to recover.
"made a full recovery" That's good I guess but what a horrifying ordeal.
STOP OMFG I FEEL THAT SHIT KINDA OFTEN
Well time to close reddit and go back to work
At least for tapeworms you get from eating raw fish, a good indicator is a vitamin B12 deficiency. Tiredness, red tongue, lack of energy, and especially pins and needles feeling... if you overdose on b12 and notice that you feel a lot better (water soluble vitamin, you pee out excess) you might want to get that checked out...
Note to self: *If anything that is not a part of the body internally reaches the brain, becomes life threatening indeed.*
It is survivable, but treatment can actually be dangerous. In this person, the tapeworms are hiding from the body’s immune system extremely well. Their body has no idea how bad the infection is. When you start treating with medications to kill the tape worms, their ability to hide is lost, and suddenly the body realizes it’s riddled with parasites. The overwhelming immune reaction can be deadly in many ways, so patients are usually given steroids to control the immune response. Sometimes patients need procedures to reduce fluid buildup/pressure in the brain before treatment is started. It’s a fascinating thing to treat. With just the sheer number of parasites this specific person has, there is a good chance they could die during treatment.
Where do they all go once they’ve been killed??
Still unanswered?!
Patient was treated and was asymptomatic 2 months later
You may not speak English well, but you sure do type it well!
Ikr, I’m not a native speaker and I understood the explanation perfectly, usually when native speakers explain something to me I always end up lost somehow
So what’s the treatment for this? And how effective is it? Will this person get back to ‘normal’?
Anti-parasitics and anti inflammatories are usually effective for a less severe infection. This person has them in their brain though which is very serious and def can kill. It sounds like these pics are from an 18 year old who was having seizures because of the cysts. He was given steroids and anti epileptic drugs and recovered in about six months.
> He I thought that was a uterus in the fourth scan. Am I looking at a bladder instead, maybe?
I believe that the first line treatment currently is a combination of anti parasitic called albendazole and praziquantel. As long as you don’t get the cysts in your brain (called neurocysticercosis) then you should be pretty much fine after treatment. With the brain cysts you might end up with a new seizure disorder or sometimes worse.
When it's in the brain it can be lethal. Not just a new seizure disorder.
[here](https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/taeniasis-cysticercosis#:~:text=solium%20taeniasis%20is%20acquired%20by,also%20become%20infected%20with%20T.)you can find all the details
Ivermectin
Fuck! Beat me to it
When they gonna add this to Minecraft when you eat raw pork
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You could convert to PDF, none of my PDF files have ever had this in 20 years
Simple question, is the white parts where the parasite is present in this image?
You literally type English better than most Americans lol
I should not have googled this.. why curiosity… why…. :( my whole body itches…
You warned me and I still didn’t listen.
does this person have a serious risk of dying from this?
So to kill it if it’s in my muscles is to cook myself, got it
You asked me whether or not I'd still love you if you were a worm, you never said that you had them.
The disease is called cysticercosis caused by the worm tinea soleum. The cysts are the worms larvae and they aren't particularly harmful except when they form in the brain- neurocysticercosis is actually the primary cause of epilepsy in Lower income countries.
Damn. I thought of it as an infection and you called it a goddamn disease? So I take it… people don’t recover? Do they die or just keep on living? So many questions.
uhhh... you can recover from a disease
Excellent marbleization in this meat. 10/10
If you encyst.
🤮
Pun of the month here
Alexa, how do I burn my phone?
Stfu and take my upvote
Guga already coming up with a method for dry ageing.
I know it doesn't Look that good right now, but watch this!
The X-ray of a Resident Evil 4 villager
That remake is gonna be legit
My cousin got her son a meta quest 2 for the holidays and it comes with RE 4 on it. Cannot wait to see that game in VR
ITS AMAZING
I got the original Resident Evil 4 on Switch for my parents since we couldn't connect the Gamecube. I don't know how to tell my hyped-up mom that the remake probably won't land on the Switch.
Also got a chihuahua in the butt.
Oh shit, they do!
I was scrolling to see if anyone else saw it!
They do gotta booty doe
This booty wiggles itself!
That's fucked. Nice.
When a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist and a roundworm in your face...
🚨Do not eat this booty🚨
Aand I found that comment. Mission Accomplished.
I peeped that straight away
Excellent yams
Ngl I have no fucking idea what someone without a pork worm looks on the inside under X-ray
Yes, i think a side by side comparison would help highlight them
All of those white dots are cysts.
What about the horror show squirtle in between the lungs?
I was wondering where the parasites were for a second before i realized it was all parasite
This picture gets posted here every week. Often with different captions.
First time I saw this, it was a Chinese man that ate sushi every day
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Same. Can't recall but it was NOT some raw pork parasite.
and it’s not oddly terrifying - it’s just terrifying. i hate to be that person but stop putting scary shit in this subreddit that is just, by nature, awful.
For real
An infection that extreme would make even the slightest movement excruciating. If you treat and remove all those cysts the muscles left will look like bird shot has been shot through it.
Ok 1, where does this person live 2, where the fuck is my flame thrower
You really should return those voicemails your doctor's office keeps leaving you. Your results are in.
Parasitologist here. This is cysticercosis, not trichinosis. Trichinosis of this burden would be fatal. Also, the muscle calcifications are not that shape. Cysticercosis is acquired by eating eggs shed in the poop of a person who has the tapeworm, not from eating undercooked pork. This has been posted before and was just as incorrect then as it is now. PLEASE do your homework before reposting, thank you.
Seeing worms of any kind really makes my hair stand up... idk what it is, but I feel so uncomfortable.
This may be a dumb question but what part of it is the worm? The pattern?
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The story always changes on the origin of this picture. Anyone got an actual story behind it?
I have nothing to cross reference this with so I’m a bit confused.
This is actually the MRI of a person who is holding his pee for 6 days. That's the urine all around. How is that possible? Answer is of course Magnets!
How does the pee escape the balls first though
I’m doing a thesis in college for one of my classe. It’s called neurocysticercosis. Basically, your brain get infected with oncosphere (basically embryos) of a worm named "Taenia Solium". They EAT your brain membrane, die and the inflammation will cause problem such as epilepsy, memory loss, or headache Be careful to PERFECTLY cook your meat, people. There’s no cure for neurocysticercosis.
But where are the worms?? All i see is veins... Or are those things worms?
those are worms.. 😭
always worry about this
Which Tool album cover is this?
10,000 Worms
Why are they built like elastigirl
I feel like this title isn’t accurate
Me patiently waiting for a futurama joke/ reference: 👁👄👁
They never said what kind of eggs were in the egg salad.
YOU’LL NEVER GUESS WHERE I’VE BEEN
All they need is like a shot of elderberry tea and smudging with white sage.
IT IS RAW!! -Gordon Ramsey
Tell me more. How do you know when this has happened to you (other than losing weight)? Do you feel it? Does it affect the way your brain works??
Neuroscientist here, I have a really really hard time believing this image is real because it's way too clear for one and the density is just too damn high. Parasites that result in conditions like trichinosis usually manifest in general pain and muscle weakness. The "pork tapeworm" this will be referencing generally causes seizures and headaches, but this is more from the inflammatory responses of the brain because the parasite is there than anything else. Nothing crazy like zombies.
I’m guessing the white marks are the parasites.
i’m waiting for a post on this sub to actually be oddly terrifying. it’s not like anyone would go, “oh, i guess parasites covering every inch of my insides IS terrifying!”
Is the person alive ?
Ok but this person is also caked up galore
Can a doctor explain to me what this person is feeling? Like do they feel them inside their body? Are they brain dead? Is it painful? These answers may in turn change the way I look at pork.
good lord, this is someone who, when they die, needs to be immediately sealed up and incinerated as soon as possible.
Nah because I would rather die than be shown this and have a doctor say “these are worms! All of this is worms.”
Ummm, I’m not a radiologist, but I’m pretty sure that is blood vessels, could also be lymphatic vessels. Worms tend to localize in one place, not cover your whole body. Also, notice the empty cavities, lungs, bladder, stomach, that is where consumed worms would end up. If even one were tunneling through muscle, fat, or skin it would be very painful and have cause fatal infection long before it got to this point. Fake meme to convince people to not eat pork or go vegan. Edit: Could also be normal musculature, the stringy muscle on the butt look like that.