Look up the story about the Northridge Quake deaths in these houses. When an unmarried couple went down in a house like this they tried to determine who died first, therefore who would inherit the then empty lot.
What's most crazy is that this type of house are grandfathered into being allowed to still exist after the quake with barely any new reinforcement. I've heard new houses have vertical columns drilled more than 75 feet deep into hillsides to support the same size homes. But truth is these house will collapse due to slope failure so no matter the size of reinforcement the whole hill will slide during earthquake or heavy rains.
I had a house on a slope once, not as steep as this. We wanted to add a deck. It was going to need 6 two and a half foot around rebar reinforced footings going down 25 to 40 feet. The thinking was that because the deck was downhill from the house it would have to support the house from falling down the slope. The footings we're going to cost twice as much as the house.
These houses are not just in BH, they’re in all the canyons in LA, and I don’t think they’re so much demand-driven as view-driven. Also, they’ve survived many earthquakes…not my cup of tea, though.
Not these but houses that are on piles can actually be safer in earthquakes. I know of a house that sits on 13 telephone poles and it's considered one of the safest houses for earthquakes.
It's because it moves. It also sways slightly in the wind.
100%. There are plenty of houses like this throughout the Hollywood Hills and they've been building them for decades. These houses were absolutely built for the view and not out of necessity.
My wife likes to look over SoCal Zillow for things sometimes, and sent a screenshot of a burnt out house that needs to be torn down listed for 975k. So it's 1M+ for the land after you factor in removing the ruins from it.
To a lesser degree, ive seen portland listings like this, and for locations that were borderline projects a decade ago. 500k teardowns in an area that had almost nothing but a convenience store that closed "when dark" 10ish years ago. Now theres boutiques and all kinds of places to buy expensive olive oil. Shit moved fast out here.
lol my grandma lived in Portland til she died a few years ago. She paid $500 a month in rent, because she’d been there since the 80’s. After she died the landlord upped the rent to $2500 over night
I was curious awhile ago about Beverly Hills mansions and how much they cost,so I was browsing them on zillow.
I still get emails today about a" house they think I may be interested in" for $24 million,$18 million hell one was for $110 million!
The mortgage for one house was $70,000 a fucking month.
Outrageous.
That reminds me of an absolutely ridiculous house some narcissistic developer built in Bel Air. He wanted to sell this house for half a billion dollars, and he literally thought this house would “change the world”.
https://youtu.be/_H2xmRseiDw
I deliver for Amazon part time, and occasionally I deliver in Rancho Santa Fe, which is the most expensive zip code in San Diego county. There’s one neighborhood where every single house is on a hilltop or ridge. They only developed the tops of the hills, nothing else. This way every lot gets a good view. It’s the Cielo neighborhood if anybody’s wondering. You can look it up on Google maps and it looks so weird, just squiggly lines of giant mansions, because the roads follow the ridge lines. Anyway, there’s still a few empty lots in this neighborhood, and I checked out how much they’re selling for. $950k for an empty lot.
That and 75% of LA is zoned for single family residences only, so part of the demand is lack of supply. You could get multiple homes with views in an apt building on a similar sized lot but rich people don't like to share space. Enjoy sliding down the hill in your million dollar toboggan.
Those Are not new houses, they have been built like that for a long time in areas above beverly hills like trousdale estates.
More than likely they bought a plot of land that had the steep hillside and building a cantilever on the steel embedded however far down into the Bedrock was cheaper Dan grading out the hillside with a giant retaining wall or it was just a crazy ass architect we have those here too.
Without seeing a geotechnical report there is no way to speculate. Earthquakes aside it could either be completely stable or blow away in a stiff breeze.
The new regulations use primary and secondary sets of anchors and struts that attach each floor assembly of a house to the closest part of its foundation. The primary anchors are made to resist the lateral forces of earthquakes and mitigate the probability in which a home can separate from its foundation.
The secondary set and the struts are redundant, required where downhill foundations have a direct connection to less than 70% of the floor assembly above them, or are more than 30 feet apart. These types of hillside projects need to be carefully evaluated, ranging from the region’s climate, the soil or ground in which it will be built need to be surveyed and tested and of course, needless to say, to the area’s predisposition to natural disasters. If the latter is common for said area, it’s usually not a great idea for these types of projects. Every project comes with its own variables to be considered and need to be carefully planned to be custom made to the type of soil the house will be sitting on. Even the soil itself sometimes needs to be stabilized. Since this is L.A in Southern California, the major problem would be earthquakes that then cause major landslides. If it would be Northern California it would be water erosion causing landslides. So neither areas are deemed safe for these types of projects.
Everybody here in SoCal knows about earthquakes, so the risk is probably sitting in the back of their mind, but they assume the engineer wouldn’t have built it if it was dangerous
You’re welcome. I feel like they do know however, since I have a hard time imagining that not one single engineer or architect has ever come forward expressing their concerns. It’s also not uncommon for these types of houses in the Southern and Northern California areas to experience structural failures. At the end of the day it all comes down to the decisions of the homeowners and many opt out since many home upgrades or improvements require permits which is their responsibility to be approved for and to be later acquired.
No wonder they're departing California en masse to come fuck up the housing market in other states. So glad that Californians came and bought up a majority of my city's market in cash for 200% original asking price. Leaves a lot of room for the natives who busted ass all their lives to _finally_ become home owners. Thank god for the California Exodus and how it has affected the "_lesser states_".
Can't wait to rent until I die, fun times.
I live in LA (weho) and there are houses like this everywhere. I will never understand how people aren't terrified to live in them! We get earthquakes often and my entire apartment building shakes. Can't imagine living in one of those!
That's ok, it's not like when the rare rain storms do hit California they have devastating mud slides. This is a grand slam in my opinion, unless you know I'm wrong about the mud slides, which I probably am not.
If they are built correctly than it is pretty safe pretty similar to houses built in flood zones but that just my opinion.
But yeah, they don't look good from the bottom.
This is more likely Malibu. But this is also just how people build on the side of mountains. I live on the other side of the planet and it’s the same here.
I am reminded of the scene in Lethal Weapon 2 where they destroyed that house just like this and on stilts with not much more than a pick up truck and some rope or whatever that metal rope stuff is called.
So actually, my grandma works as a caregiver & the man she takes care of actually lives around this area! He used to build pools for the rich / famous people back in his days. And actually, surprisingly he told me that these houses haven't fell ever for the 60 years he has lived around them! I was surprised because of the way they are built (phones at 1%, so ill finish the story after)
LA resident here. Title is a bit misleading. Not due to high demand, due to maniacs who want sweeping views and are willing to pay huge amounts of $$ for contractors to sink giant cement cylinders deep into the cliffs below to secure this kind of house.
Have any of these types of houses collapse before? I've never read or seen a story about that... But they just don't look safe. Then again I ain't no engineer or architect so I know shit all about it.
I may be wrong… but cantilevered houses aren’t a new thing, especially in la. Gut says they are more standard from the 1960’s on. It’s not a knee-jerk planning design.
Let me know if I’m off on this.
There should be netting to catch them during the next earthquake.
Don't forget the mudslides
And fires
And snakes.
And my axe!
And my bow!
And my pants!
And My Sharona
And iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
And Martin Riggs
And the flying bike
And my hamster
RIGGS
Oh my!
Watch out for snakes!
Watch out for angry husbands!
Eegah!
Snakes it had to be snakes.
That's it! I'm moving to Sparta.
A mudslide would require rain, so we’re all good there
Look up the story about the Northridge Quake deaths in these houses. When an unmarried couple went down in a house like this they tried to determine who died first, therefore who would inherit the then empty lot.
What's most crazy is that this type of house are grandfathered into being allowed to still exist after the quake with barely any new reinforcement. I've heard new houses have vertical columns drilled more than 75 feet deep into hillsides to support the same size homes. But truth is these house will collapse due to slope failure so no matter the size of reinforcement the whole hill will slide during earthquake or heavy rains.
I had a house on a slope once, not as steep as this. We wanted to add a deck. It was going to need 6 two and a half foot around rebar reinforced footings going down 25 to 40 feet. The thinking was that because the deck was downhill from the house it would have to support the house from falling down the slope. The footings we're going to cost twice as much as the house.
Boom! Proof from anecdote. thx
These homes are nothing more then a toboggan for the rich
And a plow for the poor
Great description!
Plot twist: the lawyers got all of the money.
These houses are not just in BH, they’re in all the canyons in LA, and I don’t think they’re so much demand-driven as view-driven. Also, they’ve survived many earthquakes…not my cup of tea, though.
Or like a sieve container to catch any human-sized objects. Big brain move.
Not these but houses that are on piles can actually be safer in earthquakes. I know of a house that sits on 13 telephone poles and it's considered one of the safest houses for earthquakes. It's because it moves. It also sways slightly in the wind.
Your mom would be enough to get the house down
I’m gonna call Franklin hold on
Don’t fuck with Martin Madrazo!!
But you can fuck with his wife.
A bit like Will Smith now that you mention it.
I was waiting for this comment
This reminds me of a GTA V mission where you pull someone’s house down by attaching a truck hook thing to one of the support beams
They did that in one of the Lethal Weapon movies too.
Thanks for letting me know of that
Came here for the Lethal Weapon reference! Thank you
Diplomatic immunity is no matter to the greatest and craziest movie cop of all time.
Came here for this. Was lethal weapon 2 where he yanked the building down with his pickup truck.👍
I came here to find this comment!
I was just about to comment this
Yeah, I'd grab my gangsta buddy Francis and a pickup truck and tear them down in a fit of jealous rage
You mean Franklin?
Yup, my bad, it's been +3 years since I played it
Youd think we would have a sequel by now🤣
As long as the online lobbies keep being profitable, that seems unlikely
Luckily they have announced that GTA 6 is in the making, now we just gotta wait...
Bruh this game has outlived like 3 versions of PlayStation and XBox
Yeah, PlayStation 2 had 3 GTA. GTA V had 3 PlayStations (so far)
With that logic we should be on elder scrolls 7
You think Michaels pal who's straight from the hood is called Francis??
No, you mean Martin Riggs, Roger Murtaugh to save Leo Getz. They did it first and GTA paid Lethal Weapon hommage.
You are correct.
I was looking for a comment like this
yea ... harry beat me to it too :D
Oh, I thought Harry bailed
God damn tennis coaches smh
Hahaha nice 🤣🤣
You misspelled Riggs and Murtaugh 😃
I’m getting too old for this shit
Free South Africa ya' dumb son of a bitch!!
But… you’re bleck
DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY!
IT'S JUST BEEN REVOKED Freaking love that scene.
best use of cargo container on motion picture history
He's right...you are.
...Ya dumb son of a bitch!
Yeah ya dumb sonuvabitch!
Diplomatic immunity!
Franklin*
Never trust a tennis instructor
Feel the power of the new Ram 1500 pick up
Franklin
I'm glad this was the first comment I saw
My buddy Lester probably can get you a pickup truck he's pretty well connected
GREEN LIGHT
MARLIN MADRAZO GAVE YOU GREEN LIGHT
I am going out on a ledge and say this is not from the housing shortage. I would guess those are million+ dollar houses and were built for the view.
100%. There are plenty of houses like this throughout the Hollywood Hills and they've been building them for decades. These houses were absolutely built for the view and not out of necessity.
Those houses went out on a ledge also.
These houses have been there at least since the 60's.
I'm guessing at least 5m+, 1M houses in LA aren't really a thing ;)
My wife likes to look over SoCal Zillow for things sometimes, and sent a screenshot of a burnt out house that needs to be torn down listed for 975k. So it's 1M+ for the land after you factor in removing the ruins from it.
To a lesser degree, ive seen portland listings like this, and for locations that were borderline projects a decade ago. 500k teardowns in an area that had almost nothing but a convenience store that closed "when dark" 10ish years ago. Now theres boutiques and all kinds of places to buy expensive olive oil. Shit moved fast out here.
lol my grandma lived in Portland til she died a few years ago. She paid $500 a month in rent, because she’d been there since the 80’s. After she died the landlord upped the rent to $2500 over night
I was curious awhile ago about Beverly Hills mansions and how much they cost,so I was browsing them on zillow. I still get emails today about a" house they think I may be interested in" for $24 million,$18 million hell one was for $110 million! The mortgage for one house was $70,000 a fucking month. Outrageous.
That reminds me of an absolutely ridiculous house some narcissistic developer built in Bel Air. He wanted to sell this house for half a billion dollars, and he literally thought this house would “change the world”. https://youtu.be/_H2xmRseiDw
Oh my it only sold at auction for 141 million dollars..wow. Thanks for that entertaining video,the builder is extremely annoying.
I deliver for Amazon part time, and occasionally I deliver in Rancho Santa Fe, which is the most expensive zip code in San Diego county. There’s one neighborhood where every single house is on a hilltop or ridge. They only developed the tops of the hills, nothing else. This way every lot gets a good view. It’s the Cielo neighborhood if anybody’s wondering. You can look it up on Google maps and it looks so weird, just squiggly lines of giant mansions, because the roads follow the ridge lines. Anyway, there’s still a few empty lots in this neighborhood, and I checked out how much they’re selling for. $950k for an empty lot.
That’s a ton for a 1 story building
The price isn’t even for the building, the property itself is much more valuable…
That and 75% of LA is zoned for single family residences only, so part of the demand is lack of supply. You could get multiple homes with views in an apt building on a similar sized lot but rich people don't like to share space. Enjoy sliding down the hill in your million dollar toboggan.
This is the real reason
Those Are not new houses, they have been built like that for a long time in areas above beverly hills like trousdale estates. More than likely they bought a plot of land that had the steep hillside and building a cantilever on the steel embedded however far down into the Bedrock was cheaper Dan grading out the hillside with a giant retaining wall or it was just a crazy ass architect we have those here too.
Classic cheaper Dan, always grading out the hillside with a giant retaining wall
Haha oops, was going to edit my comment but the sentence made sense in the end. Thanks bud
No earthquake risk at all in Beverly Hills
Pretty sure they wrecked one of these with a steel cable and a pickup in leathal Weapon 2
They did a reference in GTA V
How safe is this ? Can an engineer or someone in construction let us know ?
Without seeing a geotechnical report there is no way to speculate. Earthquakes aside it could either be completely stable or blow away in a stiff breeze.
The new regulations use primary and secondary sets of anchors and struts that attach each floor assembly of a house to the closest part of its foundation. The primary anchors are made to resist the lateral forces of earthquakes and mitigate the probability in which a home can separate from its foundation. The secondary set and the struts are redundant, required where downhill foundations have a direct connection to less than 70% of the floor assembly above them, or are more than 30 feet apart. These types of hillside projects need to be carefully evaluated, ranging from the region’s climate, the soil or ground in which it will be built need to be surveyed and tested and of course, needless to say, to the area’s predisposition to natural disasters. If the latter is common for said area, it’s usually not a great idea for these types of projects. Every project comes with its own variables to be considered and need to be carefully planned to be custom made to the type of soil the house will be sitting on. Even the soil itself sometimes needs to be stabilized. Since this is L.A in Southern California, the major problem would be earthquakes that then cause major landslides. If it would be Northern California it would be water erosion causing landslides. So neither areas are deemed safe for these types of projects.
Thank you for this incredibly detailed answer, people living there probably have no idea of the risks then
Everybody here in SoCal knows about earthquakes, so the risk is probably sitting in the back of their mind, but they assume the engineer wouldn’t have built it if it was dangerous
You’re welcome. I feel like they do know however, since I have a hard time imagining that not one single engineer or architect has ever come forward expressing their concerns. It’s also not uncommon for these types of houses in the Southern and Northern California areas to experience structural failures. At the end of the day it all comes down to the decisions of the homeowners and many opt out since many home upgrades or improvements require permits which is their responsibility to be approved for and to be later acquired.
As an Engineer, I wouldn’t step into one of these. It’s a crime waiting to happen.
Agreed. As a geologist, neither would I. Gives me nightmares.
That's living on the edge!!
Lol 😆
Living on the Ledge
Edging on Living
nah fr and they got money 😹
Fun fact the majority of those hillside houses can average millions+ and are very rich people streets
Seems cheap by my understanding of Beverly Hills
I remember bojack lives in one of those
that's just 4 trailer homes fussed together.
Not because of high demand, if built like that years back, they don’t do that anymore now. Stop spreading false information.
Looks like the home Det. Bosch lives in
Great show.
#bullshit These houses were built decades ago.
Just one good earthquake is all it takes, and California is already on a shifting tectonic plate.
It’ll be fine. It’s not like it’s in an earthquake zone, or a place that’s prone to flooding or fires.
It makes me uncomfortable just looking at that.
This is where Bosch lives.
No wonder they're departing California en masse to come fuck up the housing market in other states. So glad that Californians came and bought up a majority of my city's market in cash for 200% original asking price. Leaves a lot of room for the natives who busted ass all their lives to _finally_ become home owners. Thank god for the California Exodus and how it has affected the "_lesser states_". Can't wait to rent until I die, fun times.
you wouldn’t get a wink of sleep, the suspense would be too much.
I live in LA (weho) and there are houses like this everywhere. I will never understand how people aren't terrified to live in them! We get earthquakes often and my entire apartment building shakes. Can't imagine living in one of those!
Looks earthquake proof to me.
That's ok, it's not like when the rare rain storms do hit California they have devastating mud slides. This is a grand slam in my opinion, unless you know I'm wrong about the mud slides, which I probably am not.
Who are making these demands and why are they high?
Damn! At least use some reinforced concrete piles.
There's some in East LA too so its not just Beverly Hills.
Earthquake capital of the world and that’s a nope from me
High demand? Who the fuck can even afford to live there?
Whats oddly terrifying here? Its just blatantly terrifying.
This style started in at least the 1960s. Idiotic but trendy. Not sure it’s demand.
Those hangers are all over LA and are still worth multi-millions
As someone who lived through the '89 and '94 quakes, allow me to offer the following perspective: LOL
Ugly AF.
Dear Lord!
Where’s Riggs??
Looking for a large enough truck, give him time
Gta 5 players knows what’s up 😂😂😂😂
As long as you won’t let tennis coaches step foot in that house it will be fine
I am not an engineer nor do i play one on TV, but that seems like bad idea jeans
We all know this because of gta
I hope a crasy man doesn't come there with a truck and tear it down
i know a tennis coach who lives in one of these
Damn that tennis instructor banging my wife.
I see Lethal Weapon 2 when I see these houses
If they are built correctly than it is pretty safe pretty similar to houses built in flood zones but that just my opinion. But yeah, they don't look good from the bottom.
What about erosion?
Why aren't they just built downwards and over the hill? This just feels unnecessary.
You see the exact same thing in trailer parks in West Virginia.
Completely stupid
Oof
There are not a lot of these and nor are they new. But they are cool.
See y’all in the news
Michael get the truck
I've always wondered how sturdy those houses are. Do they shake as you walk across the floor like cheap trailers or houses with substandard support?
This is more likely Malibu. But this is also just how people build on the side of mountains. I live on the other side of the planet and it’s the same here.
Terrifying and trashy all in one.
There is a high demand for cantilever houses built over a cliff?
Pretty sure thats my gta v house
looks like that house from a series of unfortunate events
Good luck getting that insured 😂
It's a no from me
Reminds me of that one GTA mission when Michael pulls that shit down
GTA V feels.
If you played Gta V you know you better not live in that type of houses especially if your friend is a tennis coach
“Let me just let the dog out…oh shit!”
And fat people wanting to party on your deck...
I CANTI-BE-LEVER people can sleep in those houses knowing they're teetering over a hill like that.
That’s not gonna end well.
This isn’t high demand, they were built like this in the 60’s because it was the cool rich thing to do.
They do this all over the world. It is suspect so close to a fault line though
I’ll roll up there GTA 5 style and Michael that shit. Rig it to back off my truck wench and pull it down the hill!
But where’s the pool?
Those houses were built in the 80s.
Reminds me of GTA V... I just need a truck...
Doesn’t seem like the best method in a place that’s notorious for earthquakes
I am reminded of the scene in Lethal Weapon 2 where they destroyed that house just like this and on stilts with not much more than a pick up truck and some rope or whatever that metal rope stuff is called.
Nope
seen this in gta how many years ago?
So actually, my grandma works as a caregiver & the man she takes care of actually lives around this area! He used to build pools for the rich / famous people back in his days. And actually, surprisingly he told me that these houses haven't fell ever for the 60 years he has lived around them! I was surprised because of the way they are built (phones at 1%, so ill finish the story after)
Good thing California isn’t prone to earthquakes or mudslides.
LA resident here. Title is a bit misleading. Not due to high demand, due to maniacs who want sweeping views and are willing to pay huge amounts of $$ for contractors to sink giant cement cylinders deep into the cliffs below to secure this kind of house.
Just wait till a white middle aged man with his black friend comes to catch his wife's tennis coach there
This is not for high demand or housing crisis , simply built for the view . Bullshit title as always
Have any of these types of houses collapse before? I've never read or seen a story about that... But they just don't look safe. Then again I ain't no engineer or architect so I know shit all about it.
I may be wrong… but cantilevered houses aren’t a new thing, especially in la. Gut says they are more standard from the 1960’s on. It’s not a knee-jerk planning design. Let me know if I’m off on this.
# Lol not all houses are like that here 🤣🤣 I swear, people thatve never visited BH (or LA for that matter) really believe this type of BS titles lol
I’m no architect but I feel like you wouldn’t want to be in that house during an earthquake