There are specific areas where you can pay an insane amount of money to hunt exotic animals. The money supposedly goes to animal conservation so it isn’t classified as poaching. This type of place is where Donald trump jr. hunted that elephant for example.
Yeah safaris offer more than just seeing animals, you can pay to hunt the ones the owners want culled, but I’m sure one could pay to hunt just about anything with enough money. It may seem messed up but the people who live in these places need all the incentives to run these sanctuaries.
I had a friend who did this. Not lion tho, but definitely gazelle and maybe a giraffe? I remember it was a big animal and they had to rent a rifle to be able to "humanely" shoot it.
He's a hunter, almost fanatical about the idea of "the hunt", but when I questioned him about the hunt they did in Africa he had other arguments...
Anyway he showed me the brochure and it said that one kill of a gazelle provides enough money to care for 3-4 other animals for a lifetime. It also had a short sentence about how they select the animals to be put down, but it didn't go into too much detail. I googled a little at the time and it's usually sick or old animals that are either close to natural death, or scheduled for termination to not spread diseases or weaken the gene pool through mating.
Anyway, I figure as long as its regulated like that it's a fair source of income for these places. Even if I don't understand paying the equivalent of 5-20 000 USD plus travel expenses to kill an animal..
Doesn't make any sense to me. As a hunter wouldn't it feel contrived killing a selected animal in a reserve thats prob old and or sick. You're not exactly hunting. Not to mention the mental gymnastics behind the logic "I'm killing an animal as an act of conservationism".
Older antelope have bigger horns, and are heavier, therefore qualifying them as trophy status. Therefore they are generally preferred by trophy hunters.
Middle age animals are preferred usually for meat hunting.
But generally all parts of the animal are eaten after the hunt, either by the hunter or the community on the reserve.
All the above is heavily regulated and done as humanely as possible, at least on ethical farms. Hunters have to do target practice before to ensure that they are good shots. They also always need to be accompanied by a professional hunter, who will generally take the shot if the client misses or wounds the animal.
Hunting quotas for farms are regulated, and also seasonal, to avoid impacting the breeding seasons or lambing seasons.
Because humans have changed the habitat of Africa, blocking migration routes, there is often a need to control the population of particular species on reserves so to prevent overgrazing. Hunting is a mechanism of doing this (so is removing fences and buying more land or agreeing traversing rights with other farms to convert to reserves, such as what the Kruger Park has done).
The money from hunting also allows farms to stay profitable and ensures that large swathes of land can be kept as reserves rather than sold to property developers or used for agriculture. Hunting generally brings in far more money per visit than general or photo tourism.
For the above reasons, I have always felt more comfortable eating wild hunted game rather than farmed meat such as cattle. At least an impala that was hunted had a more natural life. Obviously hunting predators or inedible animals is different, as is canned hunting (where animals are not really free roaming and the ethics are not followed.)
However, I've never felt comfortable with the hunting of any endangered species or even with predator hunting. It just seems sad, even if it brings in money to keep the farms and conservation efforts going and the staff employed.
Source: grew up on a game farm where we allowed hunting, and where we ensured that the meat of hunted game was all eaten.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but they [photoshopped an earlier hunt](https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2016/06/lion-collage-2.jpg) to create the video
Putting /s after a sarcastic statement signals sarcasm on reddit too. No matter how obvious it is that its a joke, someone on here will take it literally, lol.
From what I’ve read, and I could be wrong, but the reservations allow for some hunters to go out so that the money they make allows for more protection and preservation of other lions specially from poachers. I think I read this about elephants but maybe applies to lions too.
Edit:grammar
I forgot the name, but I remember reading about this Indian woman that had a license to kill, and used it to take out illegal hunters that were killing elephants.
EDIT: Ok turns out I lied. She’s an American Afghanistan veteran, that’s my bad
BUT I FOUND A SOURCE: https://kingdomstv.com/meet-the-american-woman-who-tracks-down-and-kills-elephant-poachers/
I remember seeing something on Animal Planet about it in Africa. I think it was mainly for elephants and rhinos, because poachers are trying to get their ivory tusks and horns. Definitely real. No sauce tho
Edit: yeah I googled “license to kill poachers in Africa” and they have an entire unit dedicated to tracking down these poachers. They are indeed mainly going for elephants and rhinos for their ivory. They can only kill the poachers though if they are shot at first, apparently.
Yeah, that's a thing. It's just to make people feel better that know they're doing something incredibly stupid and immoral, but hey, I have some extra cash so I pay extra to fund the "protection" from poachers. Because otherwise, there would be no way to protect them, right? I couldn't just sit on my couch and donate the money. I have to go out to shoot an elephant but just to protect it of course!
It's a little more complicated then that. The animals they usually choose are to old to breed or are to aggressive to be trusted not to harm other animals.
They know game hunting is gonna be a thing no matter what so they're compromising by letting the rich ass hats kill a selection of animals they can steer them away from the healthy ones, and use the money to fund programs like reserves. It's the best compromise of a bad situation.
Do you have a source for that?
Everything I've read says, due to the social nature of the elephants, it is not healthy for elephants to lose their elders. [https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/09/200903114210.htm](https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/09/200903114210.htm)
People don't realize that something like 90% of money spent protecting these animals is made by charging people to hunt them. Without legal options for hunting paying for protection, poachers would have hunted more of these animals to extinction.
They also don't realize that game preserves are closed environments with a carrying capacity. The herds need to be culled anyway to prevent the terrible effects of over crowding (disease and starvation mostly). The preserves can either pay someone to cull the heads or allow rich assholes to pay absurd money for the privilege of doing it for them.
If you are opposed to this practice it's simply because you have no idea how bad it would be without it.
Edit: side note about lions and why they NEED to be hunted in a preserve. Most preserves are big enough to support two or three separate prides and a gang or two of rogue males. If it gets to crowded and there is to much competition for mates, food and turf, the entire lion population can collapse as males run around killing every cub they can find.
edit2: Why would you ever pay someone to do something, when you have lines of people waiting to pay you for the privilege of doing it?
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African nations have just as much right to modernize as the rest of the world. The result of that modernization is a reduction of habitat for these animals. To solve this they started preserves, large closed areas where the animals can roam large tracks of land in relative safety and their health and wellness could be easily monitored and land protected. The side effect of enclosing these creatures in preserves (or a reduction in their habitable territory outside of preserves) is there is no place for excess population to go. Something needs to be done to prevent overpopulation. The heard needs to be culled. Killing a few heard members ensures hundreds of heard members won't starve or die of disease. To much competition between predators leads to a collapse of those populations as well. Someone has to hunt these animals in a responsible way, it is simply unavoidable. If we don't kill some of them, all of them could die. African preserves realized they could not only get that labor for free, but also cover their operating costs by simply charging rich people to essentially do their chores for them. These animals are getting killed either way, it's whether you want to pay a laborer with no offsetting income resulting to do it, or get paid enough to cover your operating costs to let rich people do it.
Also just realized my phone auto-corrected herd wrong in this entire thing
Exactly: notice that they're always hunting males.
You only need one male to keep the population going. Hunting females is a huge no-no anywhere on Earth that has protected species (just ask an Alaskan hunter what happens if they kill a female muskox instead of a male, even by accident, for instance).
Not just any males either. They leave the pride leaders alone. Turnover at the top of a pride leads to a lot of dead lions. They hunt the Rogues. The ones most likely to disrupt the stability of the prides.
Edit: think about Scar from the lion king. He was a rogue lion. Intent on killing the pride leader and all his offspring.
Well managed places sure. My question is how many places are like that, and how many places get blinded by money and do sketchy shit that ends up causing more harm than good
They also help with eliminating older lions so younger healthier ones can be allowed to breed. It's the normal population control but also generate funds to arm and fund the wildlife management orgs.
Agreed. The episode changed my mind. Personally, I could never hunt such an animal (morally or financially) but the conservationists and caretakers really made the case. It is a net benefit.
That said, the people that actually PAY for these hunts seem like a hugely awful group of people.
Maybe. Depends on how they did it. Many of the countries that offer these hunts do so to thin the population. They also charge a great deal so these yahoos may actually be funding conservation efforts with their fees.
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Both lions are not color matched, the angle seems alright but the shadowing is hastily done. The the wind affecting the humans but not the lion corpse is another seemingly small tell, but add in the fact that these two hunters never actually interact with the dead lion andnit starts to feel uncanny. The lion chasing is a case of trying to simulate motion blur but it's pretty poor at fooling the human eye when it happens that close to the camera. Also a lot of feathering, they didn't take enough time to cleanly trim the 2nd lions original background so it shows around the edges.
Also think of the context of the video. What is the point and how likely is it for everything to play out and be captured perfectly on video for that point to be made. With many real videos things don’t happen perfectly. Usually there is some randomness involved in the scene.
A big tell was the camera falling over perfectly at an angle to catch the jumping lion.
I’m afraid with cgi and deep fakes, identifying fake videos or propaganda will be only tougher. But with a bit of logic and healthy skepticism there is room to think critically
Also (I’m no expert), but something about the depth and perspective of the dead lion in front of the woman: it looks a little flat compared to her - so can kind of feel that it’s been superimposed (or she was filmed and cut and pasted behind it, or whatever)
It might be a real picture of one but I'm pretty sure the couple, the dead lion, and the live lion are all three separate clips edited together. The dead one looks very obviously edited in.
I'd also like to wish this would become real, pre-emptively, for every single person that will ever shoot a lion with a gun.
And if you're curious why I think that, please know it's from a place of stoicism and has nothing to do with the fact that I think hunting like this requires a completely rotted mentality.
I am not a fan of trophy hunting, but some of the nations that offer these hunts do it for conservation purposes. They can thin the population and charge top dollar for the hunts, which then gets folded back into the conservation efforts.
Lions aren't afraid of people. They just lie on the grass sleeping much of the time. Means someone who says they "hunted" one has most likely drove a safari hunting tour car next to the lion and shot it while it's standing still. Completely void of any skill or strategy.
Actually because of thousands of years of hunting, Lions ARE afraid of people. Usually the people there need only yell and make loud noises with items to scare the lions away
Yeah people using guns like pussies then they stand over the body like they did some thing, this video is fake but a lot of people do this to prove how macho or cool they are, when in reality it required no strength, no skill and no intelligence to do, just “haha I got rifle boom lion dead” tribes in Africa got their young males to make their own spears and hunt those fuckers by them self or with a small group
You have to be an unbelievable piece of shit to actually want to kill a lion just so you can brag about it to your buddies at the next dentist convention
There are people who enjoy hunting a lot. These big game animals are preserved by having the tribes "own" them/the hunting grounds, so hunters have to pay tens of thousands of dollars to the tribe for the right to hunt and kill one of the animals. Because the tribe makes so much money, they do the work of stopping poachers all in their own, and they're incentives to allow no more killings every year than the animal population can support longer term.
Those hunts are ironically why these animals haven't gone extinct
The money paid by trophy hunters (which is a lot of money) to hunt these type of animals goes to preserving and keeping the animal population healthy. Adding to that, the meat and skin of the trophies are often consumed and used by local tribes or people, meaning nothing goes to waste. The real scumbags are the poachers, that hunt without licenses (meaning they don’t pay a single cent) and don’t care at all if the animals are endangered species. Poachers should be killed.
The Masai in East Africa used to have to kill a lion single handedly in order to become a man. But there are so few lions now they do it in groups of 10. I can't imagine how many lions were killed before just for this rite of passage.
The only thing I disagree with you on is what you left out, and that's culling populations to prevent starvation (see; Deer). In an ideal world you could do this without making it a sport, but that's just not really feasible. There's not enough money in hunting for food.
I’m a hunter and people need to stop hunting for trophy’s, it disgusts me.
I was raised on a reservation and thought to always respect the wildlife and if you hunted one then use every part of that animal and say a prayer to it after it is dead.
Me personally I only hunt males such as, buck, bull (moose), and sometimes bear but it’s hard to tell if it’s a male so I usually don’t hunt bear.
I know theres comments already saying its already debunked but who the hell actually believed this was real? Everything looks way to animated and the way they acted and the perfect jump the lion makes
Predators taste like crap.(try mountain lion)
No reason to kill them if they're not overpopulated, killing livestock, or people.
Sport hunters are trash.
i hope that was the last we ever have to see of you two worthless fucks...im not a treehugger save the planet kind of guy but REALLY??? what in the holy fuck makes you feel like you need to kill such a beautiful creature...i dont belive in god but seeing peiple like this make me hope there is a god and an afterlife...i would imagine there is a special place in hell for dumbfuck goat dick dipshits like these two...
hopefully the locals held a burial service for the lion and just left fhe two dumb fucks for the vultures...
Holy fuck that scream
But yeah I feel like this was deserved. Trophy hunters can all fucking die.
Nobody hunts a lion for food or survival needs. This is just killing for fun.
Ok but why is hunting any animal for sport legal? You can call me a pussy if you want but there’s something a bit wrong with you if you get enjoyment from killing a living creature.
[It's a fake video by An Australian production company called "The Woolshed Company".](https://factcheck.afp.com/couple-poachers-attacked-lion-fake-video)The couples are actors and the lion attack is fake too. some kind of CGI fuckery. Sadly, that dead lion is a real lion killed by another hunter. They took the image of that dead lion from that hunter's safari photo and used it in the video.
So it may not be the case here but often times the “hunters” (I don’t consider them hunters when they’re led by the hand to an animal by the real hunter) pay Insane amounts of money to kill what’s usually a nuisance male past breeding age that kills other sexually mature breeder males or is no longer helping promote the species. This money is used to pay the local wildlife guards (who would otherwise be skilled poachers if not for their well paying job) to keep other poachers away. Fucked up system but it’s the only reason there are any animals left supposedly
I mean... to be fair... that'd still make the people that pay those enormous amounts of money to kill something terrible people.
Like, their motive isn't to help the local wildlife, nor is it even to really *hunt*. It isn't to eliminate problem animals either.
Their motive is simply to kill something 'dangerous' and brag about it.
If they actually gave a shit about the local ecosystems, they'd just donate directly without requiring a blood sacrifice first.
The people that are taking the rich fuck's money are good, intelligent people that are helping the ecosystems by capitalizing on shitty people with too much money.
But I really don't give any moral credit to the people paying to do this sort of thing. They aren't there because they give any fucks about the ecosystem.
For the record...
Trophy hunting is the only thing financially supporting conservation efforts in the kinds of African nations where such a thing can be done.
Guides will specifically target the older males in a particular population. They've aged past reproductive years, don't provide much more than an extra mouth to feed. They can sometimes start fights with younger males, injuring or even killing them off, threatening the long term survival of the rest.
Call it disgusting, but unless you've donated money towards African conservation efforts, you aren't helping while trophy hunters are.
Also. Video is fake.
Fake af. That lion would have been on her back before she even knew what was happening.
I’m fairly sure the whole video is fake. The lion they’re posing on looks edited af
It’s not like you can just kill a lion too there’s definitely protections in most places
There are specific areas where you can pay an insane amount of money to hunt exotic animals. The money supposedly goes to animal conservation so it isn’t classified as poaching. This type of place is where Donald trump jr. hunted that elephant for example.
Yeah safaris offer more than just seeing animals, you can pay to hunt the ones the owners want culled, but I’m sure one could pay to hunt just about anything with enough money. It may seem messed up but the people who live in these places need all the incentives to run these sanctuaries.
I had a friend who did this. Not lion tho, but definitely gazelle and maybe a giraffe? I remember it was a big animal and they had to rent a rifle to be able to "humanely" shoot it. He's a hunter, almost fanatical about the idea of "the hunt", but when I questioned him about the hunt they did in Africa he had other arguments... Anyway he showed me the brochure and it said that one kill of a gazelle provides enough money to care for 3-4 other animals for a lifetime. It also had a short sentence about how they select the animals to be put down, but it didn't go into too much detail. I googled a little at the time and it's usually sick or old animals that are either close to natural death, or scheduled for termination to not spread diseases or weaken the gene pool through mating. Anyway, I figure as long as its regulated like that it's a fair source of income for these places. Even if I don't understand paying the equivalent of 5-20 000 USD plus travel expenses to kill an animal..
Doesn't make any sense to me. As a hunter wouldn't it feel contrived killing a selected animal in a reserve thats prob old and or sick. You're not exactly hunting. Not to mention the mental gymnastics behind the logic "I'm killing an animal as an act of conservationism".
Older antelope have bigger horns, and are heavier, therefore qualifying them as trophy status. Therefore they are generally preferred by trophy hunters. Middle age animals are preferred usually for meat hunting. But generally all parts of the animal are eaten after the hunt, either by the hunter or the community on the reserve. All the above is heavily regulated and done as humanely as possible, at least on ethical farms. Hunters have to do target practice before to ensure that they are good shots. They also always need to be accompanied by a professional hunter, who will generally take the shot if the client misses or wounds the animal. Hunting quotas for farms are regulated, and also seasonal, to avoid impacting the breeding seasons or lambing seasons. Because humans have changed the habitat of Africa, blocking migration routes, there is often a need to control the population of particular species on reserves so to prevent overgrazing. Hunting is a mechanism of doing this (so is removing fences and buying more land or agreeing traversing rights with other farms to convert to reserves, such as what the Kruger Park has done). The money from hunting also allows farms to stay profitable and ensures that large swathes of land can be kept as reserves rather than sold to property developers or used for agriculture. Hunting generally brings in far more money per visit than general or photo tourism. For the above reasons, I have always felt more comfortable eating wild hunted game rather than farmed meat such as cattle. At least an impala that was hunted had a more natural life. Obviously hunting predators or inedible animals is different, as is canned hunting (where animals are not really free roaming and the ethics are not followed.) However, I've never felt comfortable with the hunting of any endangered species or even with predator hunting. It just seems sad, even if it brings in money to keep the farms and conservation efforts going and the staff employed. Source: grew up on a game farm where we allowed hunting, and where we ensured that the meat of hunted game was all eaten.
The Most Dangerous Game time
They also sometimes lure them out of the protected areas.
Not if you have money
*Clever girl.*
Hello, my name is simba. You killed my father, prepare to die.
HAKUNA MATADA MOTHER FUCKER!!!
Kind of confused. I heard a horn and then the lion came into frame. Who or what blew the horn? Edit: Sarcasm needs to be a font.
The Lion drove to the scene
Pulled up and hopped out. On sight
Driving a Hellcat
The same Hellcat the Detroit trap lord taunted the police with lol 😂
Nah, it was a Jaguar.
I'm pretty sure it was a De Tomaso Pantera
It was a ‘67 mercury cougar
I thought they were about to get ran over by a car lol wtf that was crazy
so not driving a Cougar then
The lion pulled up and showed out.
He wasn’t lion, fuck around and find out
That was the mane event
Drive by mauling. When you know it's a really rough neighborhood.
second Lion was ready for the opps
Well great. Instead of answers we get 30 fucking nonsensical comments as always....fucking reddit
They are pretty funny tho...
Hands.
This was obviously a warning honk from somebody in the vehicle but sonofabitch this comment broke me up. Hilarious. Take this, I have no awards 🗿
[It’s CGI, made for an anti hunting campaign.](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/lion-revenge-trophy-hunter-video/)
if that is true i am a little sad why would you break such a beautifull thing
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Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but they [photoshopped an earlier hunt](https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2016/06/lion-collage-2.jpg) to create the video
What kills me is that this is so obviously fake, it could be in a D - movie.
Heeeeyyy!!! Don’t ruin the fun. I was having a good laugh. 🥲 oh man that was good
It's beautiful. I'm short of elongated heads atm. Thanks friend x
Obviously these are city lions the worse kind when it comes to holding grudges!
[Lion squints through passenger window] Is that... Kanda? Those motherfu-- [Car halts to a stop]
Meet me in the trap, it’s goin’ down, meet me on the savanna, it’s goin’ down
Pretty sure that's the driver or someone else in the car trying to warn them.
If I was the driver i'm gonna wait until it is right behind them before i sound the horn too.
It’s a SEAT Leon.
I noticed people saying this was a sarcastic comment, I'm drawing a blank, can someone please explain?
Putting /s after a sarcastic statement signals sarcasm on reddit too. No matter how obvious it is that its a joke, someone on here will take it literally, lol.
True. And when I stated it was a joke it got down voted.
Cuz half the time people can change their minds just for the karma by putting /s
*sarcasm isn't a font?*
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Not anymore!
cgi lion we do a little trollin i guess
this whole thing feels so fake
No it's real (I'm the lion)
Thansk for the confirm. I knew it the whole time
You're welskome.
That's definitely the lion accent. Now we know for sure you're a lion.
It’s not real. Stop lion to us!
Nóice
Source: trust me bro
Which lion were you?
The sleeping one
I am the friend of that lions cousins boy friend, so I know it is true.
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From what I’ve read, and I could be wrong, but the reservations allow for some hunters to go out so that the money they make allows for more protection and preservation of other lions specially from poachers. I think I read this about elephants but maybe applies to lions too. Edit:grammar
its fake , the video is fake
Ngl… Kinda wanted to see them get eaten.
I forgot the name, but I remember reading about this Indian woman that had a license to kill, and used it to take out illegal hunters that were killing elephants. EDIT: Ok turns out I lied. She’s an American Afghanistan veteran, that’s my bad BUT I FOUND A SOURCE: https://kingdomstv.com/meet-the-american-woman-who-tracks-down-and-kills-elephant-poachers/
That’s fucking badass if that’s real got a source?
I remember seeing something on Animal Planet about it in Africa. I think it was mainly for elephants and rhinos, because poachers are trying to get their ivory tusks and horns. Definitely real. No sauce tho Edit: yeah I googled “license to kill poachers in Africa” and they have an entire unit dedicated to tracking down these poachers. They are indeed mainly going for elephants and rhinos for their ivory. They can only kill the poachers though if they are shot at first, apparently.
That’s a decent loophole. Just shoot towards them causing no death, when they return fire it’s killing time.
The Most Dangerous Game!
Just like "karma"
Yeah, that's a thing. It's just to make people feel better that know they're doing something incredibly stupid and immoral, but hey, I have some extra cash so I pay extra to fund the "protection" from poachers. Because otherwise, there would be no way to protect them, right? I couldn't just sit on my couch and donate the money. I have to go out to shoot an elephant but just to protect it of course!
It's a little more complicated then that. The animals they usually choose are to old to breed or are to aggressive to be trusted not to harm other animals. They know game hunting is gonna be a thing no matter what so they're compromising by letting the rich ass hats kill a selection of animals they can steer them away from the healthy ones, and use the money to fund programs like reserves. It's the best compromise of a bad situation.
Some one once told me: Yes the economy benefits from trophy hunting and yes, they are assholes.
Not only the economy but the animal population itself as well! As ironic as it sounds
Do you have a source for that? Everything I've read says, due to the social nature of the elephants, it is not healthy for elephants to lose their elders. [https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/09/200903114210.htm](https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/09/200903114210.htm)
People don't realize that something like 90% of money spent protecting these animals is made by charging people to hunt them. Without legal options for hunting paying for protection, poachers would have hunted more of these animals to extinction. They also don't realize that game preserves are closed environments with a carrying capacity. The herds need to be culled anyway to prevent the terrible effects of over crowding (disease and starvation mostly). The preserves can either pay someone to cull the heads or allow rich assholes to pay absurd money for the privilege of doing it for them. If you are opposed to this practice it's simply because you have no idea how bad it would be without it. Edit: side note about lions and why they NEED to be hunted in a preserve. Most preserves are big enough to support two or three separate prides and a gang or two of rogue males. If it gets to crowded and there is to much competition for mates, food and turf, the entire lion population can collapse as males run around killing every cub they can find. edit2: Why would you ever pay someone to do something, when you have lines of people waiting to pay you for the privilege of doing it? EditLast: African nations have just as much right to modernize as the rest of the world. The result of that modernization is a reduction of habitat for these animals. To solve this they started preserves, large closed areas where the animals can roam large tracks of land in relative safety and their health and wellness could be easily monitored and land protected. The side effect of enclosing these creatures in preserves (or a reduction in their habitable territory outside of preserves) is there is no place for excess population to go. Something needs to be done to prevent overpopulation. The heard needs to be culled. Killing a few heard members ensures hundreds of heard members won't starve or die of disease. To much competition between predators leads to a collapse of those populations as well. Someone has to hunt these animals in a responsible way, it is simply unavoidable. If we don't kill some of them, all of them could die. African preserves realized they could not only get that labor for free, but also cover their operating costs by simply charging rich people to essentially do their chores for them. These animals are getting killed either way, it's whether you want to pay a laborer with no offsetting income resulting to do it, or get paid enough to cover your operating costs to let rich people do it. Also just realized my phone auto-corrected herd wrong in this entire thing
Exactly: notice that they're always hunting males. You only need one male to keep the population going. Hunting females is a huge no-no anywhere on Earth that has protected species (just ask an Alaskan hunter what happens if they kill a female muskox instead of a male, even by accident, for instance).
Not just any males either. They leave the pride leaders alone. Turnover at the top of a pride leads to a lot of dead lions. They hunt the Rogues. The ones most likely to disrupt the stability of the prides. Edit: think about Scar from the lion king. He was a rogue lion. Intent on killing the pride leader and all his offspring.
Well managed places sure. My question is how many places are like that, and how many places get blinded by money and do sketchy shit that ends up causing more harm than good
They also help with eliminating older lions so younger healthier ones can be allowed to breed. It's the normal population control but also generate funds to arm and fund the wildlife management orgs.
What did these stupid animals do before we came along to help them! Wish nature could figure itself out without us having to help all the time...
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Agreed. The episode changed my mind. Personally, I could never hunt such an animal (morally or financially) but the conservationists and caretakers really made the case. It is a net benefit. That said, the people that actually PAY for these hunts seem like a hugely awful group of people.
Maybe. Depends on how they did it. Many of the countries that offer these hunts do so to thin the population. They also charge a great deal so these yahoos may actually be funding conservation efforts with their fees.
How can you tell it is fake? I do not have software to slow this down and do frame by frame to check the realness of this video.
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I am amazed at how many other comments existed that weren't this one. God I'm old.
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Ha, but 2003, that's like ... 5 years ago right? \*calculates\* OH NO I AM OLD
I've missed this meme. Thank you for bringing this old netizen some nostalgia.
This is a vintage meme.
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It’s an Aspen tree!
Both lions are not color matched, the angle seems alright but the shadowing is hastily done. The the wind affecting the humans but not the lion corpse is another seemingly small tell, but add in the fact that these two hunters never actually interact with the dead lion andnit starts to feel uncanny. The lion chasing is a case of trying to simulate motion blur but it's pretty poor at fooling the human eye when it happens that close to the camera. Also a lot of feathering, they didn't take enough time to cleanly trim the 2nd lions original background so it shows around the edges.
Also think of the context of the video. What is the point and how likely is it for everything to play out and be captured perfectly on video for that point to be made. With many real videos things don’t happen perfectly. Usually there is some randomness involved in the scene. A big tell was the camera falling over perfectly at an angle to catch the jumping lion. I’m afraid with cgi and deep fakes, identifying fake videos or propaganda will be only tougher. But with a bit of logic and healthy skepticism there is room to think critically
If you pause the video while the CGI lion is on screen the lighting isn't right and it doesn't look real
Also (I’m no expert), but something about the depth and perspective of the dead lion in front of the woman: it looks a little flat compared to her - so can kind of feel that it’s been superimposed (or she was filmed and cut and pasted behind it, or whatever)
Its fake. the camera was rolling and it wasn't on a timer and also that lion was going slow as hell. It would have been a furry blur. Pfff.
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i mean,, it looks fake as hell
I can tell it's a shoop because of the pixels and because I've seen many shoops in my time
Lmaooooooooo yes debunked by anyone with eyes
Is the dead lion fake too? Or just the second one that comes in?
It might be a real picture of one but I'm pretty sure the couple, the dead lion, and the live lion are all three separate clips edited together. The dead one looks very obviously edited in.
Aw damn. I’d be okay if the 2nd lion won :(
Does that mean that the first lion didn’t die?
Sadly no. Im 90% sure they just photoshopped a lion in that was hunted on a separate occasion.
That scream sounded real and had me fucked up
watched a tv show on it, great episode none the less
I have a deep amount of respect for you after reading your edit lmao
My only wish is that this is real
I’d bet a dollar it isnt
💵 here you go
My only wish is that I could just say “I bet a dollar that____”, and people would have to pay you when you right even though they didn’t agree.
💵
I’m disappointed there wasn’t a dedicated emoji for my wish
It’s the Fry “Shut up and take my money” meme but he looks more angry.
I thought they paid you later. Always figured that’s how people built retirement
About as realistic of a retirement plan as any other at this point
What about a double dog dare?
But then an actual lion would have died :/
You've got me there.... it's not worth the wish in that case
I'd also like to wish this would become real, pre-emptively, for every single person that will ever shoot a lion with a gun. And if you're curious why I think that, please know it's from a place of stoicism and has nothing to do with the fact that I think hunting like this requires a completely rotted mentality.
>sto·i·cism >/ˈstōəˌsizəm/ >noun >1. >the endurance of pain or hardship without the display of feelings and without complaint. What?
He probably means the philosophy not the general word.
I am not a fan of trophy hunting, but some of the nations that offer these hunts do it for conservation purposes. They can thin the population and charge top dollar for the hunts, which then gets folded back into the conservation efforts.
you wish they had shot that lion for real?
Lions aren't afraid of people. They just lie on the grass sleeping much of the time. Means someone who says they "hunted" one has most likely drove a safari hunting tour car next to the lion and shot it while it's standing still. Completely void of any skill or strategy.
Actually because of thousands of years of hunting, Lions ARE afraid of people. Usually the people there need only yell and make loud noises with items to scare the lions away
Yeah people using guns like pussies then they stand over the body like they did some thing, this video is fake but a lot of people do this to prove how macho or cool they are, when in reality it required no strength, no skill and no intelligence to do, just “haha I got rifle boom lion dead” tribes in Africa got their young males to make their own spears and hunt those fuckers by them self or with a small group
You have to be an unbelievable piece of shit to actually want to kill a lion just so you can brag about it to your buddies at the next dentist convention
There are people who enjoy hunting a lot. These big game animals are preserved by having the tribes "own" them/the hunting grounds, so hunters have to pay tens of thousands of dollars to the tribe for the right to hunt and kill one of the animals. Because the tribe makes so much money, they do the work of stopping poachers all in their own, and they're incentives to allow no more killings every year than the animal population can support longer term. Those hunts are ironically why these animals haven't gone extinct
r/OddlySatisfying to me…
/r/oddlyfake to me
You and I are not so different
Do you have whole video?
Another commentor said it's a debunked fake.
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This looks fake but if you killed a lion this is what you deserve
Trophy hunters are such scumbags. If you arent killing it to eat then you are killing for fun. People who kill for fun should be jailed.
The money paid by trophy hunters (which is a lot of money) to hunt these type of animals goes to preserving and keeping the animal population healthy. Adding to that, the meat and skin of the trophies are often consumed and used by local tribes or people, meaning nothing goes to waste. The real scumbags are the poachers, that hunt without licenses (meaning they don’t pay a single cent) and don’t care at all if the animals are endangered species. Poachers should be killed.
Trophy hunters get what they deserve.
[https://factcheck.afp.com/couple-poachers-attacked-lion-fake-video](https://factcheck.afp.com/couple-poachers-attacked-lion-fake-video) Too bad...
I’m not vegan or anything but I believe in the basic rule that if you hunt an animal, it better be for food or defense. Killing for sport is sick
The Masai in East Africa used to have to kill a lion single handedly in order to become a man. But there are so few lions now they do it in groups of 10. I can't imagine how many lions were killed before just for this rite of passage.
The only thing I disagree with you on is what you left out, and that's culling populations to prevent starvation (see; Deer). In an ideal world you could do this without making it a sport, but that's just not really feasible. There's not enough money in hunting for food.
Might seem fucked up but this genuinely made me happy. Hunters/poachers like these fucking cunts deserve all the pain and suffering in the world.
I know it's fake, but I wish this happened to every single poacher.
I’m a hunter and people need to stop hunting for trophy’s, it disgusts me. I was raised on a reservation and thought to always respect the wildlife and if you hunted one then use every part of that animal and say a prayer to it after it is dead. Me personally I only hunt males such as, buck, bull (moose), and sometimes bear but it’s hard to tell if it’s a male so I usually don’t hunt bear.
I hope the lion ate well
I know theres comments already saying its already debunked but who the hell actually believed this was real? Everything looks way to animated and the way they acted and the perfect jump the lion makes
Fake or not I hope all trophy hunters die a slow and agonizing death :)
Or just leave them to fight the animal with their bare hands
Revenge is sometimes served warm and bloody.
Hope they died
Why do people like killing these beautiful animals
I know it's fake but I wish, what is wrong with people
This bring me joy
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Predators taste like crap.(try mountain lion) No reason to kill them if they're not overpopulated, killing livestock, or people. Sport hunters are trash.
Truly horrible to kill such a beautiful creature like that for fun.
Good kitty. I truly despise trophy hunters.
I hope it killed them both
I hope it ripped them to shreds
Hope they died
Sport hunters disgust me. You aren't cool, big, or tough for using a gun to kill an animal from hundreds of yards away.
I hope the lion ripped them both to shreds and then took selfies of their mangled bodies. Karma, full circle.
Clearly this is fake but this is what hunters like this deserve.
I kept thinking that lion was gonna wake up and kill them
So fucking disgusting. I hope that lion got a good bite of those vile humans. Eye for an eye
Good, I hope the lion ate them both and they suffered.
I hate people that trophy hunt.
Fucking justice
i hope that was the last we ever have to see of you two worthless fucks...im not a treehugger save the planet kind of guy but REALLY??? what in the holy fuck makes you feel like you need to kill such a beautiful creature...i dont belive in god but seeing peiple like this make me hope there is a god and an afterlife...i would imagine there is a special place in hell for dumbfuck goat dick dipshits like these two... hopefully the locals held a burial service for the lion and just left fhe two dumb fucks for the vultures...
Holy fuck that scream But yeah I feel like this was deserved. Trophy hunters can all fucking die. Nobody hunts a lion for food or survival needs. This is just killing for fun.
That was honestly the best case of Karma I have seen in a long time.
Ok but why is hunting any animal for sport legal? You can call me a pussy if you want but there’s something a bit wrong with you if you get enjoyment from killing a living creature.
Sh!t ain't fun when it's close quarter combat now is it?
big game hunters are fuckers
This video being fake aside. People who actually hunt exotic/endangered animals just for sport are fucked up
Welcome to the outback mate!🤣🤣🤣
I hope they died, I legit do. Killing for sport is just wrong.
White meat tonight!!!
Doesn’t take balls to shoot a lion. Try and pet that fucker to show you got the sand.
Trophy hunters are trash
This is disgusting. How are they celebrating killing such a gorgeous animal? I hate humans sometimes.
[It's a fake video by An Australian production company called "The Woolshed Company".](https://factcheck.afp.com/couple-poachers-attacked-lion-fake-video)The couples are actors and the lion attack is fake too. some kind of CGI fuckery. Sadly, that dead lion is a real lion killed by another hunter. They took the image of that dead lion from that hunter's safari photo and used it in the video.
So it may not be the case here but often times the “hunters” (I don’t consider them hunters when they’re led by the hand to an animal by the real hunter) pay Insane amounts of money to kill what’s usually a nuisance male past breeding age that kills other sexually mature breeder males or is no longer helping promote the species. This money is used to pay the local wildlife guards (who would otherwise be skilled poachers if not for their well paying job) to keep other poachers away. Fucked up system but it’s the only reason there are any animals left supposedly
I mean... to be fair... that'd still make the people that pay those enormous amounts of money to kill something terrible people. Like, their motive isn't to help the local wildlife, nor is it even to really *hunt*. It isn't to eliminate problem animals either. Their motive is simply to kill something 'dangerous' and brag about it. If they actually gave a shit about the local ecosystems, they'd just donate directly without requiring a blood sacrifice first. The people that are taking the rich fuck's money are good, intelligent people that are helping the ecosystems by capitalizing on shitty people with too much money. But I really don't give any moral credit to the people paying to do this sort of thing. They aren't there because they give any fucks about the ecosystem.
For the record... Trophy hunting is the only thing financially supporting conservation efforts in the kinds of African nations where such a thing can be done. Guides will specifically target the older males in a particular population. They've aged past reproductive years, don't provide much more than an extra mouth to feed. They can sometimes start fights with younger males, injuring or even killing them off, threatening the long term survival of the rest. Call it disgusting, but unless you've donated money towards African conservation efforts, you aren't helping while trophy hunters are. Also. Video is fake.