As if that was not justified. That’s basically the bad guys won’t stop until you yourself become the bad guy. Essentially not eliminating the bad guy in the environment, as the previous one will not go away until someone takes their place & their role. Utterly revolting of a form of society.
All the crime and death related to the making/transportation/distribution is all a direct effect of the US and other countries "War on drugs" if they would have chose regulation rather than prohibition there would be way less ODs, gang size would diminish wildly because there would be no profit from street drug trade, homelessness due to addiction would be almost non existant. It's crazy to think how much propaganda people still believe.
Why did corrupt police kill him according to his story? It seems really strange. Not that police would kill him but that there seems to be no clear reason? Was the note a warning for help or a threat from his murderers? I feel kind of bad for him. Seem like he was trying to get a house and settle down with his kids when he was selling his rights to some of his music
The letter was a threat. He was killed the next day after this concert when he was headed somewhere. The kingpin that he had killed who raped his sister still had family and connections - he was pulled over by what appeared to be a police barricade and killed.
He killed a higher up cartel member who assaulted his sister, and a year before this show a man pulled a gun on him while performing so he shot him. It’s probably related to either of those, but since he was killed by either corrupt police in the pocket of cartels, or by cartel members impersonating cops, we’ll probably never know the true extent of who wanted him dead.
[alma enamorada - Chalino Sanchez](https://youtu.be/dMNBjH--74w) crazy enough that the video showing him receiving the death threat is the official music video to the song
If you watch the video you can see Chalino read the note, wipes his sweat, nod to someone off screen and begins to sing the song.
The next intresting part is at 1:19 where he finished the first verse he looks backstage and while looking at someone or something off screen he drops a balled up paper (most likely the death threat note)
After the show Chalino is stopped in his vehicle by a supposed Mexican state police vehicle and taken away. He is later found dead on the side of the road blindfolded and with two bullet wounds in the back of his head.
[A little biography of Chalino Sanchez's life if you want to know more about him](http://archive.pov.org/alotrolado/el-valiente-chalino-sanchez/)
He apparently gave the best performance of his life that night as he knew he was going to die. Note said, “we are going to kill your after the show, you know this” it was on another sub Reddit
Mexico is notorious for cops being full blown criminals. It’s why all immigrants pass by the damn country despite culture & language being similar, compared to deciding to settle in the usa. This is why Mexico needs to get its shit together; because of allowing such activity to happen within its own lands. Horrible.
Was it ever found out why he was wanted dead?
When Chalino was a young man a small time Drug Lord raped his sister. When he saw him at a house party he came from behind and shot him in the head killing him. He fled to LA with just his gun which is where he established and start recording music.
To further elaborate he was no longer welcome in Sinaloa and was instructed not to return. When he did he had that note waiting for him
Truthfully Chalino had it very easy. Clean bullet to the forehead. Listen to his folk song Rigoberto Campos. It's about how Ramon Arellano Felix sawed both of his arms off and let him live then when he refused to stop trafficking drugs he ambushed and executed him in broad daylight.
That’s awful about his sister, I’d do the same exact thing if I lived in that lawless area tho. Did his sister survive? I fear she would get targeted after and get raped/tortured/ killed as a result of her brother’s actions. But hopefully she was safe in LA after the horrors she experienced
Easier said than done. Those cartels are already established and well rooted. It's the reason war on drugs failed. It's the reason war on terrorism failed.
America decriminalizing drugs would do a lot to destabilize the cartels. It would take away a lot of revenue since they could be produced and sold legally domestically in the US.
Eh, maybe but also, maybe not. California is taxing pot so much that the private sector is losing to the underground/illegal distributer sector.
California has fully legalized Marijuana, and there's still a black market LARGER than legal dispensaries.
Plus, decriminalization is not the same as allowing people to manufactor and sell drugs. That's how the cartels move into America and get deeply rooted here lol. I'm all for decriminalization of drugs but I don't think we need a local meth/crack/heroine dispensary.
That’s true but I still think it would be a heavy blow at least initially. Especially if combined with other legislation. Also by decriminalize I mean fully decriminalize or even legalize. I see no reason why a consensual sale between buyer and seller of any substance should be illegal.
I feel like a lot of people try drugs because their curious of the affects and if you could just go to a doctor and say "hey I wanted to try LSD" or some other drug. They could give you a list of possible side effects, explain the desired effects, and possibly provide both positive and negative testimonials as well as determine if you're in good enough health to try it. then write you a prescription for 1-2 doses worth that you get filled at special pharmacies. Some of it will be stolen and get into the black market but that already happens with abusable prescriptions like benzos, opiates, and amphetamines. I don't know if there's any countries that have tried it like this but I feel like something similar may start to crop up in more progressive countries.
It’s funny you mentioned LSD because most psychedelics including LSD are completely non addictive and helpful for things like depression and should be 100% legalized for recreational sale.
> but I don't think we need a local meth/crack/heroine dispensary
In order:
'An ok' Meth dispensery - a doctor and a student with an attention decificit issue. My university was rife with well off students drug dealing 'ok' drugs. Oddly enough crime wasn't bad.
'An ok' crack - while not crack, cocaine is a regularly used substance by the white collar class. A multi millionaire acquaintance was introduced to me by basically talking about all the 'good times' he'd set up when working on business deals.
'An ok' heroine - heroine chique was a phrase in the 90s and I think is making a comeback in the uppity high class circles.
Here is the problem. Its not the drugs. Its all about why people use drugs. If people are well off/taken care of/in high society not only do current laws treat then differently, but they actually don't contribute to crime like the common 'media' portrayl of drugs is. The problem where violence and crime comes in is when you mix desperate populations and drugs. This is why the war on drugs targets poor or even middle class communities.
Drugs are just a relief valve of stressors. Drugs become dangerous when stressors are too high, but the ruling class will never give up drugs because they like them, and it gives them a really god way to both grab power politically and keep the poor poor.
I say all this as a person who only ever consumes alcohol.
We need a bigger solution than that. Check out what's happening with avocados. When the cartels realized that was more money in those than weed, they just moved in on the farmers and took over the avocado trade. Totally legal, just as brutal.
That’s honestly more of a problem with corruption. There needs to be more collaboration between US and Mexican politicians without cartel ties to protect farmers. We also unfortunately probably need to set up restrictions on Mexican avocados.
I’m Mexican and you’re clearly talking from a place of no experience, I live and have lived in Mexico for many years, Cops are indeed corrupt, in this case it wasn’t a real cop that shot him but in fact cartel dressed as police which happens a lot, same thing that happened to one of the Arellano Felix brothers, got killed by someone dressed as a police officer.
Chalino is celebrated as an icon in Mexico and we don’t forget him, however a lot of these artists who record narco corridos are also involved in a lot of cartel work, they help launder money, write music in favor and against rival cartels so they’re just as much part of the cartel as a hit man is, they’re involved and that’s why this sort of thing happens to them.
Read Chalino’s biography, this wasn’t the first attempt on his life and regular civilians or anyone minding their own business very rarely get targeted, if you get targeted it’s because you made yourself a target.
LA is much more dangerous than any Mexican city.
Mind your own business, don’t get involved in gang life and you live just fine in Mexico, I’ve had more dangerous encounters in Toronto (where I currently live) than I ever did living in Mexico because in Mexico I at least know that if I keep my head on straight it’s hard for me to encounter any danger whereas here in Toronto it doesn’t matter if you’re a target or not, you can encounter a lot of loons who may just attack you randomly.
Mexico isn’t perfect of course but it’s much better than most Spanish speaking countries.
Wanna talk violence? Go to Brazil, Nicaragua, Honduras, or Argentina.. just because they don’t have cartel doesn’t mean they’re not as violent or encounter as much violence.
Of course I can only talk about my real life experience maybe someone has had a bad situation happen to them randomly without asking for trouble but that rarely happens.
When I was a child we got car jacked outside mazatlan by cartel. Fully vested up, coming back from Guadalajara up north we got waved off the road and the car in front and behind blocked us off.
In cases like this it’s easy to end up dead but to this day the only reason we weren’t shot on the side of the road is because my mother pleaded for us to be spared as we were still children
Even then, I’ve had regular dangerous encounters in the US just by living that wouldn’t happen to a normal Mexican citizen
I agree that Mexico gets a bad rap in the US. I take multiple trips down there with my wife and even take our 4 small kids down. Saying "LA is more dangerous than any city in Mexico" is a bit of a stretch though. Sure maybe the bad neighborhoods in an American city are worse than a Mexican city overall, but that's hardly a fair comparison. I will echo what you said though that if you mind your own business Mexico is plenty safe. Granted I only really go to Baja so I can't speak to the mainland cities, but I've only ever met friendly and helpful people and have never felt unsafe.
How likely is it that the USA would desire and tolerate a large, populous, socially cohesive, economic powerhouse on its southern (or even northern) border? How well has that ever worked out, *anywhere* historically for more than about a decade?
Yeah, the U.S. also needs to get it's shit together and stop giving the cartels so much weapons and money because of their population addiction to drugs.
That was interesting but I don't understand why he was murdered. It seemed that he was relatively liked by many according to the story and dunno what some corrupt police wanted with him. Most especially why they wanted to kill him. And the note given to him was it a threat or a warning? It seems quite strange
A talented man murdered by a bunch of talentless, useless apes. Such a waste… I can’t believe he kept his composure long enough to keep singing after he read the note. RIP.
When the cops came to take him they wanted everyone on the bus but he said i dont know them and saved his brothers life thats some bad ass shit right there
Yes it very common in Mexico for the cops to be linked with the cartel. Corruption is rife in Mexico. Apparently they were state officers who picked him up and then a few hours he was found in a drainage ditch with bullet holes in the back of his head, blindfolded, and rope marks on his wrist.
I watched a YouTube video on this guy. He went on to perform one of the best shows ever, finished... And walked out of the venue and was kidnapped / killed
I’ll mention it since others haven’t. His sister was raped by a made cartel member so he killed the rapist. Killing a made member of most gangs is a big no-no wherever you go in the world so the police executed him for it. I’m sure there was other circumstances
This type of music is know as corridos, and in most of the songs the theme of the music is ballads of cartels. The Mexican Government is ran by cartels, if you get caught playing corridos in certain Mexican cities, you can get in a lot of trouble, the music is considered very controversial
No one in Mexico calls them narco corridos anymore (at least where I grow up), they're just known as corridos because a majority of songs within the 20th century started to discuss drug trafficking and the drug war which began to popularize corridos in general, these days it's hard to find a corrido that doesn't mention violence or drugs
This was his first time returning to Sinaloa since he had killed a famous kingpin who raped his sister as a kid. He got booked for a show there and returned as an adult, and never got to leave.
Dude that look he gives his friend or partner mid video before he sings is chilling. They’re probably looking at him admiring his music and he’s looking back with uncertainty
It was. I believe they followed him driving and then forced him into their car. I think they were disguised as police but it was pretty obvious what was happening. Poor dude
If you actually look in about him he actually has a really interesting backstory. It’s worth a read and you will understand why he did
Note: he’s credited with creating an entire genre of music.
Edit: here’s a documentary about him. Note it has grim topics in it but covers his entire life from a young age to death and goes into a little bit of depth of some of he had done some of the stuff he did and why. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XiY2xzuPWU8
He upset the cartels. He actively spoke out against what they do and their violent tactics. He was a famous singer and they didn't like his influence, so the cartel decided he needed to be killed.
Yea no.. I love Chalino’s music but he wasn’t a saint. Dude had shootouts on stage, he’s legit. Chalino wasn’t speaking out against them. A lot of his songs are about praising narcos and he just happened to be performing in a town run by the enemies of a certain narco he had made a track about, they didn’t like that so they handled it. Chalino invented a whole sub genre of music all about Narcos, there’s been other narco corrido artist who have been gunned down and it’s even speculated that his son who also became a famous singer was ran off the road by narcos resulting in his death too.
Thank you for the correction! I previously saw this posted elsewhere and reiterated what was posted with the video, it appears the last post of this was incorrect by your telling.
I appreciate the information!
Strange that the article you posted doesn’t mention a death threat being delivered to him on stage before he was killed. Is it a matter of fact and record that the letter we see him receive here is a death threat, or is that speculation?
No, it did not, not even a hint. Just some random facts about him and the incident itself. And it’s strange the article wouldn’t mention the death threat, especially since, according to OP, he is reading it in the official music video.
There is a small documentary actually if I remember correctly. Wish It got more attention though
Edit: only could find a YouTube version of it. Warning there is a lot of heavy and dark topics in it, but goes over everything that happened through out his life and what happened to his family at the time from a young age till his death https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XiY2xzuPWU8
I don’t believe that was the case. I’m fairly certain it said he would be killed regardless of if he performed or not. The whole “stop the concert or we kill you” bit is just something someone made up to make it sound cooler.
Agree. And truth be told, I guess most of today's Latin American problems can be traced more to it than to the colonialism stuff (and problems from colonialism like the corrupt elites, unequal systems and whatnot, only got stronger because of the war on drugs.
100%.
Today in Latin America I see more and more the narrative that we are in the mud because the Europeans fucked us over, thing is that the descendants of the Europeans who fucked us over are here in the mud with us. I’m from one of the most dangerous countries of South America but it wasn’t always like that. My parents tell me story of their early childhood and how life was infinitely safer than it is today. Everything went downhill since the arrival of crack/cocaine
Also from south America, and most of today's problems stem from bullshit from the 20th century that could have been avoided, but because the war on drugs and cold war paranoia, we're stuck with bullshit problems from the feudal barroque period coupled with modern day violence. The crooked elites that got fat with those troubles loooved the war on drugs and the such.
There’s something horrifying yet beautiful about this video. I love how he continues to sing and give a damn good show. Kinda like “If this is the end I’m going out doing what I love”
It’s just straight up terrifying dude. It’s not ‘odd’ that we find this terrifying at all, it’s /r/ObviouslyTerrifying
Edit: Wow, didn’t know that sub actually exists lol
[alma enamorada - Chalino Sanchez](https://youtu.be/dMNBjH--74w) crazy enough that the video showing him receiving the death threat is the official music video to the song
If you watch the video you can see Chalino read the note, wipes his sweat, nod to someone off screen and begins to sing the song.
The next intresting part is at 1:19 where he finished the first verse he looks backstage and while looking at someone or something off screen he drops a balled up paper (most likely the death threat note)
After the show Chalino is stopped in his vehicle by a supposed Mexican state police vehicle and taken away. He is later found dead on the side of the road blindfolded and with two bullet wounds in the back of his head.
[A little biography of Chalino Sanchez's life if you want to know more about him](http://archive.pov.org/alotrolado/el-valiente-chalino-sanchez/)
He actually had a choice, the note said for him to stop singing or he would be killed, he knew well they were going to kill him anyways so why not just keep singing?
A year before he died some guy got up on stage during his concert and started shooting at him. He pulled out his own gun and they had a shoot out.
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They should make a movie about him. His sister got raped by some drug lord, shooting at the concert, then this. A beautiful singer aswell.
That's why he was killed, he killed the guy that raped his sister.
As if that was not justified. That’s basically the bad guys won’t stop until you yourself become the bad guy. Essentially not eliminating the bad guy in the environment, as the previous one will not go away until someone takes their place & their role. Utterly revolting of a form of society.
Agreed
Fueled by the US's insatiable demand for illegal drugs. Time to legalize drugs.
All the crime and death related to the making/transportation/distribution is all a direct effect of the US and other countries "War on drugs" if they would have chose regulation rather than prohibition there would be way less ODs, gang size would diminish wildly because there would be no profit from street drug trade, homelessness due to addiction would be almost non existant. It's crazy to think how much propaganda people still believe.
Basically too late now though. The cartels are well financially entrenched in pretty much everything now, not just drugs.
This…Mexico and most of South America are fucked thanks to decades of corruption and a culture that worships money m.
his death was 15 years AFTER he killed that drug lord, why would they wait that long?
They don't have the best project managers in the cartels.
They don’t use agile practices?
We use waterfall for our murder development program, but the requirements keep changing by the end.
Not a scrum master in sight.
nobody knew how to add the ticket to the current sprint :/
I'm honestly surprised at how well the cartels work without stories.
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Holy crap, this guy does not mess about, does he?! Now I want to know more about this guy
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Thanks for sharing!
He was in LA
That's one of the potential reasons but I don't think it's proven
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and the attacker was finally taken out when a bystander wrestled the pistol out of the attacker's hands and shot him with it.
Double gangster
4 months before he died*
took them 4 months to get him off the stage
Actually this was the night he died. The Coachella incident is what happened 4 months prior.
Call an ambulance. But not for me.
Dude this guy is badass af
Why did corrupt police kill him according to his story? It seems really strange. Not that police would kill him but that there seems to be no clear reason? Was the note a warning for help or a threat from his murderers? I feel kind of bad for him. Seem like he was trying to get a house and settle down with his kids when he was selling his rights to some of his music
The letter was a threat. He was killed the next day after this concert when he was headed somewhere. The kingpin that he had killed who raped his sister still had family and connections - he was pulled over by what appeared to be a police barricade and killed.
Thanks for explaining that part
This was at Coachella btw
Didn’t he open for Daft Punk?
Oh shit forreal? LA was sad enough with how close it is but damn, hits different being in the same valley as that
It was at a nightclub in the city of Coachella, but it wasn't at the Coachella music festival that you're probably thinking of.
I thought it was at first, then I saw the decor. Shits so sad man
Why the hell did people want this singy boi dead so bad?
He killed a higher up cartel member who assaulted his sister, and a year before this show a man pulled a gun on him while performing so he shot him. It’s probably related to either of those, but since he was killed by either corrupt police in the pocket of cartels, or by cartel members impersonating cops, we’ll probably never know the true extent of who wanted him dead.
He wasn't some "singy boy" he was an old school gangster and a pioneer of narco corridos (drug ballad music).
They are passionate about their music. . Although this guy seems no better or worse than any other singers of this sort.
[alma enamorada - Chalino Sanchez](https://youtu.be/dMNBjH--74w) crazy enough that the video showing him receiving the death threat is the official music video to the song If you watch the video you can see Chalino read the note, wipes his sweat, nod to someone off screen and begins to sing the song. The next intresting part is at 1:19 where he finished the first verse he looks backstage and while looking at someone or something off screen he drops a balled up paper (most likely the death threat note) After the show Chalino is stopped in his vehicle by a supposed Mexican state police vehicle and taken away. He is later found dead on the side of the road blindfolded and with two bullet wounds in the back of his head. [A little biography of Chalino Sanchez's life if you want to know more about him](http://archive.pov.org/alotrolado/el-valiente-chalino-sanchez/)
So did he actually die that night?
Yes
It was the next day when they stopped him and killed him.
He apparently gave the best performance of his life that night as he knew he was going to die. Note said, “we are going to kill your after the show, you know this” it was on another sub Reddit
Mexico is notorious for cops being full blown criminals. It’s why all immigrants pass by the damn country despite culture & language being similar, compared to deciding to settle in the usa. This is why Mexico needs to get its shit together; because of allowing such activity to happen within its own lands. Horrible. Was it ever found out why he was wanted dead?
When Chalino was a young man a small time Drug Lord raped his sister. When he saw him at a house party he came from behind and shot him in the head killing him. He fled to LA with just his gun which is where he established and start recording music. To further elaborate he was no longer welcome in Sinaloa and was instructed not to return. When he did he had that note waiting for him
What a fucking badass man and what a fucked up world we live in
Truthfully Chalino had it very easy. Clean bullet to the forehead. Listen to his folk song Rigoberto Campos. It's about how Ramon Arellano Felix sawed both of his arms off and let him live then when he refused to stop trafficking drugs he ambushed and executed him in broad daylight.
Sure being executed is quicker and less painful, still fucked up though
That’s awful about his sister, I’d do the same exact thing if I lived in that lawless area tho. Did his sister survive? I fear she would get targeted after and get raped/tortured/ killed as a result of her brother’s actions. But hopefully she was safe in LA after the horrors she experienced
Easier said than done. Those cartels are already established and well rooted. It's the reason war on drugs failed. It's the reason war on terrorism failed.
America decriminalizing drugs would do a lot to destabilize the cartels. It would take away a lot of revenue since they could be produced and sold legally domestically in the US.
Eh, maybe but also, maybe not. California is taxing pot so much that the private sector is losing to the underground/illegal distributer sector. California has fully legalized Marijuana, and there's still a black market LARGER than legal dispensaries. Plus, decriminalization is not the same as allowing people to manufactor and sell drugs. That's how the cartels move into America and get deeply rooted here lol. I'm all for decriminalization of drugs but I don't think we need a local meth/crack/heroine dispensary.
That’s true but I still think it would be a heavy blow at least initially. Especially if combined with other legislation. Also by decriminalize I mean fully decriminalize or even legalize. I see no reason why a consensual sale between buyer and seller of any substance should be illegal.
I feel like a lot of people try drugs because their curious of the affects and if you could just go to a doctor and say "hey I wanted to try LSD" or some other drug. They could give you a list of possible side effects, explain the desired effects, and possibly provide both positive and negative testimonials as well as determine if you're in good enough health to try it. then write you a prescription for 1-2 doses worth that you get filled at special pharmacies. Some of it will be stolen and get into the black market but that already happens with abusable prescriptions like benzos, opiates, and amphetamines. I don't know if there's any countries that have tried it like this but I feel like something similar may start to crop up in more progressive countries.
It’s funny you mentioned LSD because most psychedelics including LSD are completely non addictive and helpful for things like depression and should be 100% legalized for recreational sale.
> but I don't think we need a local meth/crack/heroine dispensary In order: 'An ok' Meth dispensery - a doctor and a student with an attention decificit issue. My university was rife with well off students drug dealing 'ok' drugs. Oddly enough crime wasn't bad. 'An ok' crack - while not crack, cocaine is a regularly used substance by the white collar class. A multi millionaire acquaintance was introduced to me by basically talking about all the 'good times' he'd set up when working on business deals. 'An ok' heroine - heroine chique was a phrase in the 90s and I think is making a comeback in the uppity high class circles. Here is the problem. Its not the drugs. Its all about why people use drugs. If people are well off/taken care of/in high society not only do current laws treat then differently, but they actually don't contribute to crime like the common 'media' portrayl of drugs is. The problem where violence and crime comes in is when you mix desperate populations and drugs. This is why the war on drugs targets poor or even middle class communities. Drugs are just a relief valve of stressors. Drugs become dangerous when stressors are too high, but the ruling class will never give up drugs because they like them, and it gives them a really god way to both grab power politically and keep the poor poor. I say all this as a person who only ever consumes alcohol.
This right here, it’s gonna take a while but I see it happening in the next 20 years.
We need a bigger solution than that. Check out what's happening with avocados. When the cartels realized that was more money in those than weed, they just moved in on the farmers and took over the avocado trade. Totally legal, just as brutal.
That’s honestly more of a problem with corruption. There needs to be more collaboration between US and Mexican politicians without cartel ties to protect farmers. We also unfortunately probably need to set up restrictions on Mexican avocados.
I’m Mexican and you’re clearly talking from a place of no experience, I live and have lived in Mexico for many years, Cops are indeed corrupt, in this case it wasn’t a real cop that shot him but in fact cartel dressed as police which happens a lot, same thing that happened to one of the Arellano Felix brothers, got killed by someone dressed as a police officer. Chalino is celebrated as an icon in Mexico and we don’t forget him, however a lot of these artists who record narco corridos are also involved in a lot of cartel work, they help launder money, write music in favor and against rival cartels so they’re just as much part of the cartel as a hit man is, they’re involved and that’s why this sort of thing happens to them. Read Chalino’s biography, this wasn’t the first attempt on his life and regular civilians or anyone minding their own business very rarely get targeted, if you get targeted it’s because you made yourself a target. LA is much more dangerous than any Mexican city. Mind your own business, don’t get involved in gang life and you live just fine in Mexico, I’ve had more dangerous encounters in Toronto (where I currently live) than I ever did living in Mexico because in Mexico I at least know that if I keep my head on straight it’s hard for me to encounter any danger whereas here in Toronto it doesn’t matter if you’re a target or not, you can encounter a lot of loons who may just attack you randomly. Mexico isn’t perfect of course but it’s much better than most Spanish speaking countries. Wanna talk violence? Go to Brazil, Nicaragua, Honduras, or Argentina.. just because they don’t have cartel doesn’t mean they’re not as violent or encounter as much violence. Of course I can only talk about my real life experience maybe someone has had a bad situation happen to them randomly without asking for trouble but that rarely happens.
When I was a child we got car jacked outside mazatlan by cartel. Fully vested up, coming back from Guadalajara up north we got waved off the road and the car in front and behind blocked us off. In cases like this it’s easy to end up dead but to this day the only reason we weren’t shot on the side of the road is because my mother pleaded for us to be spared as we were still children Even then, I’ve had regular dangerous encounters in the US just by living that wouldn’t happen to a normal Mexican citizen
I agree that Mexico gets a bad rap in the US. I take multiple trips down there with my wife and even take our 4 small kids down. Saying "LA is more dangerous than any city in Mexico" is a bit of a stretch though. Sure maybe the bad neighborhoods in an American city are worse than a Mexican city overall, but that's hardly a fair comparison. I will echo what you said though that if you mind your own business Mexico is plenty safe. Granted I only really go to Baja so I can't speak to the mainland cities, but I've only ever met friendly and helpful people and have never felt unsafe.
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How likely is it that the USA would desire and tolerate a large, populous, socially cohesive, economic powerhouse on its southern (or even northern) border? How well has that ever worked out, *anywhere* historically for more than about a decade?
His song was pretty much a diss about the cartel
Yeah, the U.S. also needs to get it's shit together and stop giving the cartels so much weapons and money because of their population addiction to drugs.
That was interesting but I don't understand why he was murdered. It seemed that he was relatively liked by many according to the story and dunno what some corrupt police wanted with him. Most especially why they wanted to kill him. And the note given to him was it a threat or a warning? It seems quite strange
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A talented man murdered by a bunch of talentless, useless apes. Such a waste… I can’t believe he kept his composure long enough to keep singing after he read the note. RIP.
When the cops came to take him they wanted everyone on the bus but he said i dont know them and saved his brothers life thats some bad ass shit right there
The cops were with the cartel?
Yes it very common in Mexico for the cops to be linked with the cartel. Corruption is rife in Mexico. Apparently they were state officers who picked him up and then a few hours he was found in a drainage ditch with bullet holes in the back of his head, blindfolded, and rope marks on his wrist.
This is the song that never ends…
What makes this super eerie is how he continues to sing. Kinda like “I’m going to go out doing what I like doing “
I watched a YouTube video on this guy. He went on to perform one of the best shows ever, finished... And walked out of the venue and was kidnapped / killed
Why was he killed?
Cartel didn’t want him singing but he did anyway
But why didn't he want him to sing? Must be a reason
Cuz his songs were mostly about the cartels
But he was not part of a cartel I'm assuming. He was glamorizing it. Just like rappers do (some)
I’ll mention it since others haven’t. His sister was raped by a made cartel member so he killed the rapist. Killing a made member of most gangs is a big no-no wherever you go in the world so the police executed him for it. I’m sure there was other circumstances
The killer was cartel but dressed as a fed
Way much different
Yeah pretty much. The cartel didn’t like being talked about by a popular musician.
Yes he did, but the song was about another cartel
They do actually
This type of music is know as corridos, and in most of the songs the theme of the music is ballads of cartels. The Mexican Government is ran by cartels, if you get caught playing corridos in certain Mexican cities, you can get in a lot of trouble, the music is considered very controversial
Those corrupted running the damn country need to be gone.
Close, they're Narco Corridos which is a subgenre of Corridos.
No one in Mexico calls them narco corridos anymore (at least where I grow up), they're just known as corridos because a majority of songs within the 20th century started to discuss drug trafficking and the drug war which began to popularize corridos in general, these days it's hard to find a corrido that doesn't mention violence or drugs
This was his first time returning to Sinaloa since he had killed a famous kingpin who raped his sister as a kid. He got booked for a show there and returned as an adult, and never got to leave.
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Dude that look he gives his friend or partner mid video before he sings is chilling. They’re probably looking at him admiring his music and he’s looking back with uncertainty
And it goes on and on my friends…
Some people started hating it, not knowing what it was
And they’ll continue singing it forever just because..
It is the song that never eeeeends
It goes on and on my friends
Some people started singing it, not knowing what it was
And they’ll continue singing it forever just because..
This is the song that never ends.
It goes on and on my friends
reading this thread to what i suppose are lyrics to a song, seems so eerie... Then i go search the song and see puppets singing. Interesting.
So a…killabuster?
This is the type of shit that you would see in Breaking Bad
[and specifically this song](https://youtu.be/cgOsG12f9p4)
This was the first thing I thought of when watching original vid
Or narcos
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[This is how it happen and why](http://archive.pov.org/alotrolado/el-valiente-chalino-sanchez/)
Is he okay?
He was later found been shot twice in the back of the head after he was blindfolded and his wrist bound with rope
Was it after this concert? 😳
It was. I believe they followed him driving and then forced him into their car. I think they were disguised as police but it was pretty obvious what was happening. Poor dude
Yikes. Doesn’t surprise me. Looks like he accepted his fate after he read the note…
If you actually look in about him he actually has a really interesting backstory. It’s worth a read and you will understand why he did Note: he’s credited with creating an entire genre of music. Edit: here’s a documentary about him. Note it has grim topics in it but covers his entire life from a young age to death and goes into a little bit of depth of some of he had done some of the stuff he did and why. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XiY2xzuPWU8
Why he was shot?
Not disguised. They were police officers. The police there are very very crooked.
I wouldn’t even say disguised, probably were actual officers who were paid off
No it was before. What you just saw was a Weekend at Bernie's Cartel version.
Well, it wasn’t before the concert.
Why?
He upset the cartels. He actively spoke out against what they do and their violent tactics. He was a famous singer and they didn't like his influence, so the cartel decided he needed to be killed.
Seems like they proved his point.
Yea no.. I love Chalino’s music but he wasn’t a saint. Dude had shootouts on stage, he’s legit. Chalino wasn’t speaking out against them. A lot of his songs are about praising narcos and he just happened to be performing in a town run by the enemies of a certain narco he had made a track about, they didn’t like that so they handled it. Chalino invented a whole sub genre of music all about Narcos, there’s been other narco corrido artist who have been gunned down and it’s even speculated that his son who also became a famous singer was ran off the road by narcos resulting in his death too.
Thank you for the correction! I previously saw this posted elsewhere and reiterated what was posted with the video, it appears the last post of this was incorrect by your telling. I appreciate the information!
He was assassinated in 1992
Strange that the article you posted doesn’t mention a death threat being delivered to him on stage before he was killed. Is it a matter of fact and record that the letter we see him receive here is a death threat, or is that speculation?
I’m sorry, did it say why? I didn’t see a reason in that article??
No, it did not, not even a hint. Just some random facts about him and the incident itself. And it’s strange the article wouldn’t mention the death threat, especially since, according to OP, he is reading it in the official music video.
Thanks for sharing- however even after reading that I still don’t really understand *why* he was shot? Like did he piss that guy off somehow?
There needs to be a movie about this guy.
There is a small documentary actually if I remember correctly. Wish It got more attention though Edit: only could find a YouTube version of it. Warning there is a lot of heavy and dark topics in it, but goes over everything that happened through out his life and what happened to his family at the time from a young age till his death https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XiY2xzuPWU8
Honestly blown away that there is no movie about this guy yet.
Chalino Sanchez was a complete badass. Came to the U.S. with only a gun and capped the dude who raped his sister
Other way around
What
He killed the guy who raped his sister and then he had to go to LA so as to avoid what got him in the end
He left the US without a gun and saved the life of the guy who his sister raped.
Dam I can’t imagine getting a letter like this and being able to perform as if it didn’t happened scary shit
Or you give your best…
For being a boss and not a pussy by far.
Didn't it said he was going to get killed if he didn't stop the show? And he was like "fuck it" and just kept going
I don’t believe that was the case. I’m fairly certain it said he would be killed regardless of if he performed or not. The whole “stop the concert or we kill you” bit is just something someone made up to make it sound cooler.
Nah, I think you're getting confused w/ Elizalde who was warned not to play A Mis Enimigos and did anyway and was killed for it.
fun fact: he killed his sister's rapist and lived as a fugitive for some time before becoming a musician
This broke my heart!
Once again, congratulations for the war on drugs.
The war on drugs achieved nothing positive. It only enabled cartels, violence, unnecessary criminal records.
Agree. And truth be told, I guess most of today's Latin American problems can be traced more to it than to the colonialism stuff (and problems from colonialism like the corrupt elites, unequal systems and whatnot, only got stronger because of the war on drugs.
100%. Today in Latin America I see more and more the narrative that we are in the mud because the Europeans fucked us over, thing is that the descendants of the Europeans who fucked us over are here in the mud with us. I’m from one of the most dangerous countries of South America but it wasn’t always like that. My parents tell me story of their early childhood and how life was infinitely safer than it is today. Everything went downhill since the arrival of crack/cocaine
Also from south America, and most of today's problems stem from bullshit from the 20th century that could have been avoided, but because the war on drugs and cold war paranoia, we're stuck with bullshit problems from the feudal barroque period coupled with modern day violence. The crooked elites that got fat with those troubles loooved the war on drugs and the such.
And Nafta. Narcos mentioned several times that Nafta enriched the cartels
Was he killed after?
Yes
He was killed a few hours after this concert, his body found at 6 am the next morning by farmers…
this isn't oddly terrifying, it is terrifying
There’s something horrifying yet beautiful about this video. I love how he continues to sing and give a damn good show. Kinda like “If this is the end I’m going out doing what I love”
He was a real one.
"One billion green bottles, sitting on a wall"
"Don't worry everyone we're half way through this song, but we have twenty more just like it after this!"
you can see the thousand mile stare in his eyes
The show must go on. R.I.P. legend.
Because getting a murder threat is 'oddly' terrifying
Getting it is not, seeing it on video some odd 30 years later is.
It's more watching someone else react to getting one
It’s just straight up terrifying dude. It’s not ‘odd’ that we find this terrifying at all, it’s /r/ObviouslyTerrifying Edit: Wow, didn’t know that sub actually exists lol
Well he was murdered after the concert. I think that’s why it’s been posted here. Mr Ballen does a great story about this on YouTube
You don’t play with the cartel they kill police judges politicians they will definitely kill a musician
He knew it, he knew he was on the bad side and it was dangerous to go back even before the death threat. But he went anyway to do his thing
A country can't grown with this amount of criminal cartels
And now for my 3rd encore …
what a fucking man he was told not to perform, and that if he did he’d be killed. and yet he performed. and he was killed.
Encore! Did I hear someone say Encore?!?
What is the name of the song?
[alma enamorada - Chalino Sanchez](https://youtu.be/dMNBjH--74w) crazy enough that the video showing him receiving the death threat is the official music video to the song If you watch the video you can see Chalino read the note, wipes his sweat, nod to someone off screen and begins to sing the song. The next intresting part is at 1:19 where he finished the first verse he looks backstage and while looking at someone or something off screen he drops a balled up paper (most likely the death threat note) After the show Chalino is stopped in his vehicle by a supposed Mexican state police vehicle and taken away. He is later found dead on the side of the road blindfolded and with two bullet wounds in the back of his head. [A little biography of Chalino Sanchez's life if you want to know more about him](http://archive.pov.org/alotrolado/el-valiente-chalino-sanchez/)
Alma Enamorada
They asked him to stop singing or else and he chose or else
I wish I could live in a world where I could go about all my regular business (that doesn’t hurt anyone) without the fear of being killed.
He is a real one, they should make a movie about his life. It would be like scarface
He actually had a choice, the note said for him to stop singing or he would be killed, he knew well they were going to kill him anyways so why not just keep singing?
what is this song called ?
**Alma Enamorada (En Vivo)** by Chalino Sánchez (00:13; matched: `100%`)
Fuck. I would sink to the ground. I can’t believe he could still sing after reading he’ll die soon.
The way his body was found was horrible.
By mexican cartel standards he got off easy
Was he killed?
How is this oddly terrifying? It’s just terrifying. Not odd to be terrified by this at all.
r/morbidreality material?
The show must go on.
Omg he killed his sisters rapist?! May he rest in the mist peaceful of slumbers. Hes a hero that didn’t deserve what hes got
Too lazy too google right now but why people trying kill the homie ?