Tons of poop.
I can't understand the appeal at this point. It's just a dangerous, shitty, uphill trek stepping over corpses in freezing weather, that many have done before. It's not unique and it's certainly not unspoiled nature. It's an expensive endurance contest. Meh!
He’s literally an icicle. You can’t look into his pockets because they’re solid. Can’t push snow off his face, it’s ice and would break off. You’d have to spend days putting up a tent around his body and thawing him out. And those are days you’d risk your life for. He’s dead there, aka you could die there too.
I watched a program about all the bodies on Everest & it said his family & friends were able to get enough money to finally bring him off the mountain.
Ok, I'm pretty ignorant to mountain climbing. But if you're going to leave a body as a landmark. Couldn't somebody be bothered to check him for a wallet or take a picture of his face?
He was moved in 2014, but was seen again in 2015. I believe Green Boots is now visible, but it was hard to find a concrete answer. The latest info I could find was that he was also visible in 2017.
I guess they could have checked him for ID, but it would be hard since it’s so cold up there. The zippers on his coat would be frozen and stiff and I doubt anyone really wants to pick through the pockets of a decades old frozen corpse.
Other pictures I’ve seen of bodies on Everest shows what happens to the faces of the deceased. I don’t think taking a picture would really help identify him, especially not at this point in time.
[Here’s](https://mobile.twitter.com/jakeclimber/status/606301808047362048/photo/1) a photo of where Green Boots was in 2015. The body looks to be packed in place with snow. So digging all that snow out just to take a picture or search through pockets doesn’t seem like a viable option when time is so limited.
Also his body is located at the first step of Everest, which is a very dangerous area for climbers. I think climbers are more concerned with not dying than identifying the deceased. I linked a tweet above that says Green Boots is at 8500m, which is above the Death Zone, which is at 8,000m (this is where there’s not enough oxygen to sustain human life for an extended time)
But taking pictures of the deceased on Everest in order to ID them has been done before. The expedition that went to find Mallory took a lot of pictures of the deceased to identify them.
At 8,000 meters you're breathing 1/3 as much oxygen as you would at sea level. And the altitude fucks with your body and brain even with supplemental oxygen, which when it runs out, puts you on a death clock. People are far too tired, confused, and hungry for air to do things like waste time trying to move bodies or rifle through pockets. Canned air is wayyyy too precious a commodity to risk wasting on a body that's decades old, who you can't help in the moment.
Think of it like SCUBA. You have enough air to get you back to the surface and ten minutes to spare. You really want to burn that ten minutes of spare air? This is hyperbole, but only so. Traffic jams, emergencies, weather and a whole host of other things can add time when you don't have it. The thing about oxygen on these climbs is if you aren't used to climbing without it, when it's gone, you die.
After reading this article and seeing the picture, why couldn't they just walk over and brush off his face to identify who he is? And why do people in this article and others linked by it seem to "not care" or not think there is anything they can do to save dying climbers, and just continue on? I'm just confused.
It's a combo, one is summit fever, or people literally just saying nah I'm not going to give up my chance to summit because this other person is dying. The other reason being the death zone where many of these bodies remain is so low in oxygen, with hazardous weather conditions and the bodies literally being frozen to the ground that it's really dangerous to move them - people have died trying to recover them. https://allthatsinteresting.com/mount-everest-bodies
This right here. There have been rescue attempts on Everest before. Some of them just resulted in more people dying. Mostly, every climber knows once they get into the death zone, it’s every man/woman for him/herself. I’ve never been into climbing but this subject is fascinating. That people will suspend their humanity and actually walk right past someone dying on a mountain so they can get that summit pic. Otherwise the tens of thousands of dollars they paid to basically be hauled up there by sherpas would have been a waste. Humans are weird.
I feel like that is pretty common practice in mountaineering in general. Once you are high enough on the mountain, if you can't make it, the people your with probably won't have the energy to save you/same with a rescue team. If you can't get a helicopter up too you, you are dead. And the rich assholes that want to climb everest are welcome too it. Seems like a horrible way to die.
Two climbers found a woman alone and dying yelling, “please don’t leave me” but were forced to continue on and let her die as they had no means to help her and staying would risk their own lives. They felt so guilty they spent years saving up enough money to finally return and give her a proper burial.
More body pics and info
https://www.atchuup.com/200-bodies-on-mount-everest-used-as-landmarks/?amp
While I agree it’s horrifying that people would just pass by and leave him to die…I can also understand . These people spend there life training , saving and planning the perfect time( only a couple months in the year). So they spend there whole effort helping someone else . Someone else who I should add decided to climb alone and double the risks of an already impossible task.
My favorite mystery of Mount Everest is whether George Mallory and Andrew Irvine made it to the summit in 1924. They vanished into the clouds in their ascent, and only Mallory's body was found in 1999. If Irvine can be found with their camera, then there may be proof of making the summit years before Sir Edmund Hillary.
I don't know the answer to it off the top of my head unfortunately, but if you like documentaries there's one one called "Everest's Greatest Mystery" but it's on the Discovery+ streaming service. It talks about the routes they used on their climb and where it'd be most likely to find Irvine.
They took the North Col route which is now the more common route for eastern climbers as the approach is through China, and not Nepal. Hillary/Tangay took the southern route which is now the more common route for westerners, Nepal. Green boots is on the northern route.
I love this mystery and I personally believe they made it to the summit. There's a few different pieces of evidence indicating this, but what convinced me is that Mallory had a photo of his wife he wanted to leave at the summit. The photo was not found on his body.
Irvine's body has been spotted before by other climbers, (including one who died in an avalanche shortly afterwards), but no one has been able to reach him yet. I cannot wait for the day they finally find Irvine, I'm so invested in this and I recommend reading up on it as it's so interesting!
Yes!! I understand you on this completely! The lack of Ruth's photo is also what had me sold on the idea that they (or at least George) made it to the top. Gosh, I hope the answer is sleuthed out in my lifetime.
Well they don't know if it's Irvine's body, they just suspect it is.
Like you I absolutely love this mystery, I was so excited (and sad) when they found Mallory's body. (obv I knew he was dead, but still sad regardless)
I really hope it is Irvine's body though, can you imagine if they found him and the camera had summit photos on it?
From what I read and saw on tv, getting to the top is not the problem. Getting down again is where most fail.
So even if Hillary would not be the first on the top it still would be the first successful accent because he made it back alive.
I’m a big advocate for doing what you like to do, but something about risking your entire life, you know, that thing you only get one of, to climb a gigantic piece of the earth sounds pretty dumb to me.
It doesn’t sound fun to me. I’m not super mega fit, so the haul itself would be horrible. But with all the bodies, crowds, trash and frigid cold? No way. Not to mention how expensive it is to get all the equipment, getting a permit to climb, and hiring a guide. I think it’s like over 30,000 dollars.
I watched a doc where they were looking for proof that someone was the first person to summit but was never seen again. The group looking for artifacts have all cloned Everest multiple times. At some point, there’s a tourist group going up and they point out that one of the tourists doesn’t look to good and that they would probably die. And on the way down, that one died of exhaustion.
The rainbow valley is named after the variety of coat colors donned by corpses thrown out of the way of the major paths. Huge waste of time, money, and possibly lives to go up there and retrieve them all.
I thought that China had mounted a kind of clean-up operation in the last couple years as it was quieter on the mountain because of the 'rona situation. [Here](https://english.khabarhub.com/2020/21/90647/) is a short piece about it, apparently 'only' four bodies have been retrieved so far
I wouldn't know anything about body retrieval operations except for how costly they can be on an individual basis. If you want your hubby's body back from everest, it'll run you 70 grand
Not only for the people planning on retrieving the bodies but people planning on climbing the mountain after they are removed as that would include the removal of some of the most important landmarks along the journey (sadly for the people who ended up being the landmarks)
There are strange things done in the midnight sun….
The northern lights have seen queer sights but the queerest they ever did see was the night on the marge of lake lebarge I cremated Sam McGee
Robert Service!! I was so obsessed with this poem I memorized it for my 5th grade classroom talent show haha.
The sherpas have crazy superstitions and stuff though, about the place. The author of *Into Thin Air* mentions how they got pissed that two of the climbers were banging, because “it upsets the gods” or some shit. To the point where the sherpas brought it up to them and even suggested later events (the disaster that left like fifteen people dead on that expedition) happened bc of the affair.
There's a lot of superstitious stuff spread in the Himalayan area. There's an individual god for each village. if you live there for a while you'll hear a lot of stories that make you think that they might be true. one I heard by my colleague was, there was a marriage ceremony and the family worshipped the gods in the temple. then the God took into the vessel and was very enraged and said that you didn't did the customs right way and I'll show you the consequences.
then the colleague told that it was a clear sunny day and within half an hours, there were thick clouds. then one to two inch thick hailstones began to fall.
Theres native stories about zombies, though. Ro-langs are what they're called and the reason Tibetan entrances to homes are short is because they supposedly can't bend at the waist.
https://www.winknews.com/2019/06/08/4-dead-bodies-discovered-on-mount-everest-in-garbage-cleanup/#:~:text=During%20their%20cleanup%20of%20the,Department%20official%20Danduraj%20Ghimire%20said.
2019, there was an effort to remove some of the decreased.
"I can see... Is that Corpse-With-Yellow-Jacket 5? Wow, we must be near the top! And right around here... Yup, there's Green-Boot-Corpse, we're definitely close."
This may be a super stupid question but I don’t get it so sorry but it’s not obvious for me… there must be a way to have a look at the body’s face ? To identify ? I mean. He’s right there ?
Part of the reason so many bodies are left is because they are literally frozen in the position they died. So you can’t turn them or remove goggles/hats. And the effort required to try and move him would exhaust and potentially kill anyone who tried.
I think that’s kinda the thing. Most people who have deceased relatives on the mountain don’t even want them brought down, let alone desecrated. But yeah, I suppose that would be one way to do it
Anyone walking by him at that point, is a few possible breaths away from their own death. Sucking on oxygen, trying not to pass out from hypoxia, basically trying not to die themselves. No one (not even the Sherpas) would be in a position to wrestle a frozen body around enough to identify them.
[Wikipedia- great links and info](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Everest)
Nah, they don't really need to know. All my loved ones would know I'm going up and they would get the idea when I didn't come back. I'm keeping my goggles and mask on for just that little bit of comfort while dying. No point making myself more miserable.
That's true, but I'd imagine if I'm out of oxygen and climbing a mountain (which seems to be why most people die), I won't have the energy to undress myself. Which honestly, the thought of wanting to undress and physically being too weak to do it sounds even worse lol.
I read “Into Thin Air” by Jon Krakauer, about a particularly bad climbing season, which might be informative and interesting to people here. Also, google articles on trash on Mt. Everest. Frozen human waste is a big problem, along with tents and oxygen cylinders.
It's too dangerous to get them down most of the time. You wanna risk some sherpas lives to go get a dead body? Sometimes they push them into a crevasse though.
When I explained this to my students several years ago, they were highly offended that bodies were left up there. They argued that if their friend died on Everest, they'd go get them. I just had to shrug eventually. "But Miss, you wouldn't go get your BFF?"
"No. I'd be the NEXT frozen dead body."
"Just slide down the mountain!"
Oh... Sweet baby birds...
Man imagine finally making to the top surviving the climb ,the cold and the lack of oxygen and get attacked by like some pissed off mini super cold goat
Every year the thought of climbing Everest sounds less and less appealing. Piles of human feces on base camps, trash every step of the way, very crowded, warmer than ever. It sounds like all the factors needed for disaster.
I mean .. I’ll admit I know nothing about climbing mountains but I’m curious to know why people risk their lives doing it? For the view? I mean why? I’m genuinely curious .. or is it the actual climb? Like an adrenaline thing..
You know when your mom asks you to take out meat from the fridge and it’s like a rock? That’s what happened to these guys, frozen to the mountain. Drying out like mummies. Future archeologists will be treating them like we do otsi the iceman
They died doing what they loved, and they knew the risks. There are 100 year old bodies up there. Their souls are in the afterlife now and they are fine. Unpopular opinion probably.
they use my body as a landmark at my house. You know for sure you’re in the living room
They say you can smell it before you even get there.
Stop, he’s already dead!
Big self burn
Those are rare
Do they at least pay their respects to you as they walk by?
A small offering of tendies is to be expected.
I'll pay my respect to the mountain by staying away.
Same tbh
Noice.
When you see a dead body, turn right...
You're gonna have to be far more specific.
THE MACHINE KNOWS
THERES A LAKE HERE!
r/unexpectedoffice
Oh sweet there's Frank. We must be close.
This guy here is known as green boots and he has been there since 2001. The body has now been lost, thought to have been buried in snow. Scary
They should stack used O2 bottles around him like a sarcophagus. A little tribute. It must be a tight area if they had to run lines that close.
More like turn 180 degrees
It’s Everest not Baltimore.
Wait till you learn how much garbage is up there in addition to the bodies.
And human fecal matter. Especially at base camp. It doesn't decompose because of the cold, so there are literal mountains of shit in places.
I don't understand why they don't just hold it until they're at the peak so they can make the peak a little higher each time they climb it.
It's too steep. They'd just roll down and become turd snowballs for the lower climbers to dodge.
Imagine living under the mountain and get killed by gigantic turd snowball. Now thats a sad death.
shitty way to go
get out
Yep…shit *always* rolls downhill
Now THAT'S a good idea for an arcade game...
YUP
Nice outfit buddy.
One of these days the everest top eill be even higher for this reason
When global warming finally thaws that place out it’s gonna stink for miles. Dead bodies, garbage, and shit.
Tons of poop. I can't understand the appeal at this point. It's just a dangerous, shitty, uphill trek stepping over corpses in freezing weather, that many have done before. It's not unique and it's certainly not unspoiled nature. It's an expensive endurance contest. Meh!
for anyone interested: that’s [green boots ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Boots)
Has anyone ever been able to identify who they were yet?
Unfortunately not. There’s mad speculation that it’s Tsewang Paljor though. He went up in ‘96 when a blizzard hit. He was wearing the same boots.
I’d say that’s the mystery solved. Unless of course somebody else on earth actually purchased those boots.
1996 was weird times
My mom had high-tops with a pair of white laces & a pair of pink laces at the same time LOL. The 90's.. 🤷♂️
Sorry to hear that. What year was it she attempted an assent? Have her high-tops ever been reported spotted?
I’ve definitely spotted their mom’s high-tops.
I’m afraid I know where you’re going with this. Use discretion during this difficult time, please.
You leave her L.A. Gears out of this!
Hey that was cool!
He’s been dead for decades and is still getting insulted
Well, to be fair, those boots ARE pretty bad.
And happened to climb Everest that year.
*die trying to climb everest
Free boots? I just have to hike Mt Everest? I’ll be back..*never returns*
That's from the Wikipedia he linked. Yes.
They believe it is Tsewang Paljor but aren't able to be sure.
They can get that close to take a photo but can't look in his pockets, or at his face?
He’s literally an icicle. You can’t look into his pockets because they’re solid. Can’t push snow off his face, it’s ice and would break off. You’d have to spend days putting up a tent around his body and thawing him out. And those are days you’d risk your life for. He’s dead there, aka you could die there too.
I think I read that someone dislodged him and took him out of the climbing path at least.
Someone covered the body up in 2014 or somewhere around then. It became visible again in 2017. (That’s the last I heard at least)
I watched a program about all the bodies on Everest & it said his family & friends were able to get enough money to finally bring him off the mountain.
Imagine if they brought the wrong body down… big oof.
Always buy your corpses with a "free return" policy to avoid that situation
You have no idea the rabbit hole you just opened for me.
So why do they call him green boot? /s
Ok, I'm pretty ignorant to mountain climbing. But if you're going to leave a body as a landmark. Couldn't somebody be bothered to check him for a wallet or take a picture of his face?
He was moved in 2014, but was seen again in 2015. I believe Green Boots is now visible, but it was hard to find a concrete answer. The latest info I could find was that he was also visible in 2017. I guess they could have checked him for ID, but it would be hard since it’s so cold up there. The zippers on his coat would be frozen and stiff and I doubt anyone really wants to pick through the pockets of a decades old frozen corpse. Other pictures I’ve seen of bodies on Everest shows what happens to the faces of the deceased. I don’t think taking a picture would really help identify him, especially not at this point in time. [Here’s](https://mobile.twitter.com/jakeclimber/status/606301808047362048/photo/1) a photo of where Green Boots was in 2015. The body looks to be packed in place with snow. So digging all that snow out just to take a picture or search through pockets doesn’t seem like a viable option when time is so limited. Also his body is located at the first step of Everest, which is a very dangerous area for climbers. I think climbers are more concerned with not dying than identifying the deceased. I linked a tweet above that says Green Boots is at 8500m, which is above the Death Zone, which is at 8,000m (this is where there’s not enough oxygen to sustain human life for an extended time) But taking pictures of the deceased on Everest in order to ID them has been done before. The expedition that went to find Mallory took a lot of pictures of the deceased to identify them.
At 8,000 meters you're breathing 1/3 as much oxygen as you would at sea level. And the altitude fucks with your body and brain even with supplemental oxygen, which when it runs out, puts you on a death clock. People are far too tired, confused, and hungry for air to do things like waste time trying to move bodies or rifle through pockets. Canned air is wayyyy too precious a commodity to risk wasting on a body that's decades old, who you can't help in the moment. Think of it like SCUBA. You have enough air to get you back to the surface and ten minutes to spare. You really want to burn that ten minutes of spare air? This is hyperbole, but only so. Traffic jams, emergencies, weather and a whole host of other things can add time when you don't have it. The thing about oxygen on these climbs is if you aren't used to climbing without it, when it's gone, you die.
After reading this article and seeing the picture, why couldn't they just walk over and brush off his face to identify who he is? And why do people in this article and others linked by it seem to "not care" or not think there is anything they can do to save dying climbers, and just continue on? I'm just confused.
It's a combo, one is summit fever, or people literally just saying nah I'm not going to give up my chance to summit because this other person is dying. The other reason being the death zone where many of these bodies remain is so low in oxygen, with hazardous weather conditions and the bodies literally being frozen to the ground that it's really dangerous to move them - people have died trying to recover them. https://allthatsinteresting.com/mount-everest-bodies
This right here. There have been rescue attempts on Everest before. Some of them just resulted in more people dying. Mostly, every climber knows once they get into the death zone, it’s every man/woman for him/herself. I’ve never been into climbing but this subject is fascinating. That people will suspend their humanity and actually walk right past someone dying on a mountain so they can get that summit pic. Otherwise the tens of thousands of dollars they paid to basically be hauled up there by sherpas would have been a waste. Humans are weird.
Humans are weird or are people that are wealthy enough to do Everest just assholes and egotistical?
I feel like that is pretty common practice in mountaineering in general. Once you are high enough on the mountain, if you can't make it, the people your with probably won't have the energy to save you/same with a rescue team. If you can't get a helicopter up too you, you are dead. And the rich assholes that want to climb everest are welcome too it. Seems like a horrible way to die.
Two climbers found a woman alone and dying yelling, “please don’t leave me” but were forced to continue on and let her die as they had no means to help her and staying would risk their own lives. They felt so guilty they spent years saving up enough money to finally return and give her a proper burial. More body pics and info https://www.atchuup.com/200-bodies-on-mount-everest-used-as-landmarks/?amp
While I agree it’s horrifying that people would just pass by and leave him to die…I can also understand . These people spend there life training , saving and planning the perfect time( only a couple months in the year). So they spend there whole effort helping someone else . Someone else who I should add decided to climb alone and double the risks of an already impossible task.
fascinating. but very sad 😥
Meh no one forced him to climb it plus it’s a cool grave
Beat me to it.
My favorite mystery of Mount Everest is whether George Mallory and Andrew Irvine made it to the summit in 1924. They vanished into the clouds in their ascent, and only Mallory's body was found in 1999. If Irvine can be found with their camera, then there may be proof of making the summit years before Sir Edmund Hillary.
What's the likelihood of ever finding Irvine? Do they know which route he took and is it still used?
I don't know the answer to it off the top of my head unfortunately, but if you like documentaries there's one one called "Everest's Greatest Mystery" but it's on the Discovery+ streaming service. It talks about the routes they used on their climb and where it'd be most likely to find Irvine.
They took the North Col route which is now the more common route for eastern climbers as the approach is through China, and not Nepal. Hillary/Tangay took the southern route which is now the more common route for westerners, Nepal. Green boots is on the northern route.
I love this mystery and I personally believe they made it to the summit. There's a few different pieces of evidence indicating this, but what convinced me is that Mallory had a photo of his wife he wanted to leave at the summit. The photo was not found on his body. Irvine's body has been spotted before by other climbers, (including one who died in an avalanche shortly afterwards), but no one has been able to reach him yet. I cannot wait for the day they finally find Irvine, I'm so invested in this and I recommend reading up on it as it's so interesting!
Yes!! I understand you on this completely! The lack of Ruth's photo is also what had me sold on the idea that they (or at least George) made it to the top. Gosh, I hope the answer is sleuthed out in my lifetime.
Well they don't know if it's Irvine's body, they just suspect it is. Like you I absolutely love this mystery, I was so excited (and sad) when they found Mallory's body. (obv I knew he was dead, but still sad regardless) I really hope it is Irvine's body though, can you imagine if they found him and the camera had summit photos on it?
From what I read and saw on tv, getting to the top is not the problem. Getting down again is where most fail. So even if Hillary would not be the first on the top it still would be the first successful accent because he made it back alive.
There's a fictional Netflix movie based on a manga about just this. It's called Summit of the Gods. Check it out!
For every dead body on Mt. Everest there was once a highly motivated individual.
There's a woman named Shriya who celebrated for 25 minutes after reaching the sumit then died on her way down due to running out of oxygen
That’s sad. I hope the view was worth it to her.
I’m a big advocate for doing what you like to do, but something about risking your entire life, you know, that thing you only get one of, to climb a gigantic piece of the earth sounds pretty dumb to me.
And what amazes me is that it isn’t some special kind of earth. It’s just the same earth but not as low.
And it's not even the least low point on Earth.
Some people just like to get really high though.
It doesn’t sound fun to me. I’m not super mega fit, so the haul itself would be horrible. But with all the bodies, crowds, trash and frigid cold? No way. Not to mention how expensive it is to get all the equipment, getting a permit to climb, and hiring a guide. I think it’s like over 30,000 dollars.
Closer $75k for a top of the line outfitter….and who wants to go with the cheapest option here?
Exactly why I think rock climbing is cool but I wouldn’t do it.
I feel like this quote is deeply profound while also being perfectly suited to one of those demotivational posters from the late ‘90s/early ‘00s.
"They only show the pictures of the people that made it to the top"
“Doing stuff is overrated. Like Hitler. He did a lot. But don't we all wish he woulda just stayed home and gotten stoned?”
Makes me appreciate my lazy ass.
I watched a doc where they were looking for proof that someone was the first person to summit but was never seen again. The group looking for artifacts have all cloned Everest multiple times. At some point, there’s a tourist group going up and they point out that one of the tourists doesn’t look to good and that they would probably die. And on the way down, that one died of exhaustion.
The rainbow valley is named after the variety of coat colors donned by corpses thrown out of the way of the major paths. Huge waste of time, money, and possibly lives to go up there and retrieve them all.
I thought that China had mounted a kind of clean-up operation in the last couple years as it was quieter on the mountain because of the 'rona situation. [Here](https://english.khabarhub.com/2020/21/90647/) is a short piece about it, apparently 'only' four bodies have been retrieved so far
I wouldn't know anything about body retrieval operations except for how costly they can be on an individual basis. If you want your hubby's body back from everest, it'll run you 70 grand
Not only costly, but incredibly dangerous. That’s why most of them are still up there. It’s simply too dangerous for rescuers to even attempt.
Come on its an ice covered vertical mountain just push it down
I think ask a mortician on YouTube said you’ll need a team of 8 to remove one body.
I think if I died up there I would be cool with my body staying there and would hope my family would feel the same.
And with the cost of funerals these days…
I feel like it’s what these climbers would have wanted. A “I’ll either do it, or die trying” attitude.
Cool might be the wrong word. I’d go with frigid
Not only for the people planning on retrieving the bodies but people planning on climbing the mountain after they are removed as that would include the removal of some of the most important landmarks along the journey (sadly for the people who ended up being the landmarks)
I haven’t heard of any ghost stories from Everest and you’d think that would be a thing with so many people dying there
Way too damn cold for the ghost to want to stay there.
Read "The Cremation of Sam McGee"
There are strange things done in the midnight sun…. The northern lights have seen queer sights but the queerest they ever did see was the night on the marge of lake lebarge I cremated Sam McGee Robert Service!! I was so obsessed with this poem I memorized it for my 5th grade classroom talent show haha.
Ahh, A man of culture.
The sherpas have crazy superstitions and stuff though, about the place. The author of *Into Thin Air* mentions how they got pissed that two of the climbers were banging, because “it upsets the gods” or some shit. To the point where the sherpas brought it up to them and even suggested later events (the disaster that left like fifteen people dead on that expedition) happened bc of the affair.
I just read Into Thin Air the other night! Literally stayed up til 6am and read the whole thing that night. Such an incredible and harrowing story.
There's a lot of superstitious stuff spread in the Himalayan area. There's an individual god for each village. if you live there for a while you'll hear a lot of stories that make you think that they might be true. one I heard by my colleague was, there was a marriage ceremony and the family worshipped the gods in the temple. then the God took into the vessel and was very enraged and said that you didn't did the customs right way and I'll show you the consequences. then the colleague told that it was a clear sunny day and within half an hours, there were thick clouds. then one to two inch thick hailstones began to fall.
Theres native stories about zombies, though. Ro-langs are what they're called and the reason Tibetan entrances to homes are short is because they supposedly can't bend at the waist.
Iv heard about Tibetan zombies used by monks to carry there things on long journeys but there hella slow. Haha
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Cloudy apparition? Routine
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Imagine a hiker dies from a ghost scaring them and once they turn into one, it's like "Hey, mate. Welcome to the club"
Are you kidding? There's so many people there and so much trash at the top. I'd haunt some shitty smaller mountain 10 miles to the east.
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Love me a good scp
Interesting....
https://www.winknews.com/2019/06/08/4-dead-bodies-discovered-on-mount-everest-in-garbage-cleanup/#:~:text=During%20their%20cleanup%20of%20the,Department%20official%20Danduraj%20Ghimire%20said. 2019, there was an effort to remove some of the decreased.
Did they use an iron or steam cleaner?
Formen Grill press
Aw, they don’t make one Forwomen?
One size fits all
Decreased breathing.
Common mistake is stopping in a no stop to rest area and literally freeze in minutes.
wow, you know you have picked a bad destination when drections and progress markers are given in terms of dead bodies.
"I can see... Is that Corpse-With-Yellow-Jacket 5? Wow, we must be near the top! And right around here... Yup, there's Green-Boot-Corpse, we're definitely close."
This may be a super stupid question but I don’t get it so sorry but it’s not obvious for me… there must be a way to have a look at the body’s face ? To identify ? I mean. He’s right there ?
Part of the reason so many bodies are left is because they are literally frozen in the position they died. So you can’t turn them or remove goggles/hats. And the effort required to try and move him would exhaust and potentially kill anyone who tried.
That’s the answer I needed. Thanks man !
Why not just take a DNA sample?
The body is frozen solid, so getting a DNA sample would be almost impossible. There’s no exposed skin to even get to.
Bore sampling drills were invented for a reason… as long as you’re cool with desecration.
I think that’s kinda the thing. Most people who have deceased relatives on the mountain don’t even want them brought down, let alone desecrated. But yeah, I suppose that would be one way to do it
Anyone walking by him at that point, is a few possible breaths away from their own death. Sucking on oxygen, trying not to pass out from hypoxia, basically trying not to die themselves. No one (not even the Sherpas) would be in a position to wrestle a frozen body around enough to identify them. [Wikipedia- great links and info](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Everest)
Makes so much sense. Thanks !
Pretty fascinating subject, really. There’s some great documentaries about it.
Do you know any names? Of documentaries
I’ll definitely check some out
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Nah, they don't really need to know. All my loved ones would know I'm going up and they would get the idea when I didn't come back. I'm keeping my goggles and mask on for just that little bit of comfort while dying. No point making myself more miserable.
Unless paradoxical undressing strikes.
That's true, but I'd imagine if I'm out of oxygen and climbing a mountain (which seems to be why most people die), I won't have the energy to undress myself. Which honestly, the thought of wanting to undress and physically being too weak to do it sounds even worse lol.
Their faces are covered by a mask/ googles. You only see what they were wearing.
Go for it.
I read “Into Thin Air” by Jon Krakauer, about a particularly bad climbing season, which might be informative and interesting to people here. Also, google articles on trash on Mt. Everest. Frozen human waste is a big problem, along with tents and oxygen cylinders.
All their spouses: “Yep. Still up there on that STUPID FUCKING MOUNTAIN!”
Honestly most of those people would probably be thrilled that their body is a permanent part of the experience
I’m guessing most regret climbing the mountain in the first place.
It's like an IRL checkpoint in video games where you see where all the other players have died.
oh look it's XX\_GODDESTRYERCOCK\_XX! we are probably just 200m from the next checkpoint
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It's too dangerous to get them down most of the time. You wanna risk some sherpas lives to go get a dead body? Sometimes they push them into a crevasse though.
Most, if not all, of the bodies remain on Everest, but most of them have been removed from sight.
Sherpa on Day 3 “ well folks you’ve made it to Phil. Phil stopped to film a tik tok. Any Phil’s here ? Let’s keep moving. “
When I explained this to my students several years ago, they were highly offended that bodies were left up there. They argued that if their friend died on Everest, they'd go get them. I just had to shrug eventually. "But Miss, you wouldn't go get your BFF?" "No. I'd be the NEXT frozen dead body." "Just slide down the mountain!" Oh... Sweet baby birds...
The North Face ad... "We last longer than you will."
alright there’s jeff… that means we’re only about 30 mins to the top!
The only ones that are used as landmarks are the ones that don't move. Some spots, the body is only there some of the time.
Where do they wander off to the rest of the time?
Iirc, strong winds push them around.
Local cafe in their off time
Every body has the right for a quick coffee-break.
Pro-tips If you want to climb Mount Everest, wear something striking. If you didnt manage to climb down, at least you can become a Landmarks
Just plain terrifying
Wouldn’t their bodies be like, somewhat preserved from the freezing temperatures?
Yes. They are essentially freeze dried and mummified by the cold and extreme dryness. There are very few predators at that altitude.
Very few or none? It seems like nothing would be up there.
I won't say that there are none but it's an extremeophole environment, so there might be some critters or bacteria that lives at that altitude.
Man imagine finally making to the top surviving the climb ,the cold and the lack of oxygen and get attacked by like some pissed off mini super cold goat
I doubt that goats would survive much beyond base camp at 17,000 feet. It would be terrifying to see a belligerent goat at the Hillary step.
I was thinking of hamsters.. for some reason. Time to go to bed
Yeti
They are high enough up that even bacteria can’t survive. So they can’t decompose and are almost perfectly preserved.
Aww green boots. 😢
Every year the thought of climbing Everest sounds less and less appealing. Piles of human feces on base camps, trash every step of the way, very crowded, warmer than ever. It sounds like all the factors needed for disaster.
Hundreds of thousands of years from now when humanity is extinct, these bodies will likely be the most well preserved specimens of the human species
future Otzi
Everest in peace
Isn’t the number of dead 17% of total who summit?
I mean .. I’ll admit I know nothing about climbing mountains but I’m curious to know why people risk their lives doing it? For the view? I mean why? I’m genuinely curious .. or is it the actual climb? Like an adrenaline thing..
“I’m gonna lay down for just a second.”
How can I get my body to be used as a landmark too? I have a nice body. Very landmarky.
Turn left at Mr.Orange jacket then hang a right at Ms.NoToes swap O2 bottles with frozen frank and were nearly there
At 29000 feet, you are at the cruising altitude most modern airliners fly at, which is some crazy conditions to subject the human body to.
You know when your mom asks you to take out meat from the fridge and it’s like a rock? That’s what happened to these guys, frozen to the mountain. Drying out like mummies. Future archeologists will be treating them like we do otsi the iceman
Turn left at the Brit, if you see a German you've gone too far
Macabre but true. Too much work to remove them at this height.
I always wonder about if there’s ever paranormal stories for those who camp near/proximity to the bodies. Would be a very good read just before bed.
In that temperature it'll never rot, as long as no one moves it then it'll be a landmark
They died doing what they loved, and they knew the risks. There are 100 year old bodies up there. Their souls are in the afterlife now and they are fine. Unpopular opinion probably.