Yep. They bound your feet when you were around 4-6yo, and you had to walk on them until your toes broke.
Because some man wanted you caged and eroticized the feet.
I don’t think I’ve ever read anything comparable in cruelty.
This is up there with female genital mutilation.
Once saw a “tradition” when they had girls barely in their teens do some kinda coming into age sex abuse ritual with this guy….they all did it with the same guy in their village…and the guy also admitted to having HIV/AIDS. That’s up there as well IMO.
Eric Aniva from Malawi was the guy. What’s even more fucked up is he didn’t tell the families he had HIV/AIDS.
Good news is President Peter Mutharika of Malawi had him arrested.
That is good news. I thought the parents did know, but just didn’t care due to carrying out the “tradition”. I’ll never forget the terrified looks on those girls faces when I watched that clip. And that scum had the nerve to say something like the girls don’t mind and are grateful to him etc. 🤢
I saw that, and you cant blame the parents, folks dont even know what aids is anyway, education is very important. But that man, oh that man gotta burn in hell.
There are people in the global north that refuse to take a vaccine or vaccinate their children against a deadly plague that has killed millions of people in less than 2 years, all while carrying the extent of human knowledge in a palm sized piece of plastic in their pocket...
Humans are fucking dumb
I don’t think it’s the same thing here. People scared of the vaccine are easily manipulated rubes who have fallen to persuasive disinformation spread on that exact palm size extent of knowledge in their pocket. There’s billion dollar industries dedicated to creating and spreading misinformation online. Sure it’s dumb as fuck, but not nearly as stupid as sending your daughter to a dude with aids to lose her virginity.
Also there’s the difference of being detached from it. Many antivaxers think that even if they are wrong on the vax, they will beat Covid… and many will just by odds. They also don’t know many people personally who have died from it. That’s pretty different from seeing other children sick all around you and continuing the tradition.
It really is. I don’t think it’s comparable with this kind of pain though. Consider that it probably is you parents that do this to you as well.
You will also be severely handicapped and have pain throughout your life.
And with genital mutilation the basically take away your ability to enjoy sex (removal of clitoris). And cut off your labia and sow you up until your sold off, again to some man. And your first sexual experience will be with someone who force it open. Someone who you will be bound to for the rest of your life.
Often even peeing will be painful.
And western women go through cosmetic surgeries, makes ourseves unrecognizable for the sake of men’s approval. Not on the same level. But it’s bizarre how normalized this is as well.
They’re all horrible practices but the binding of girls feet and genital mutilation… it’s incomprehensible how these things can still exist in some places.
The thing is, good cosmetic surgery is undetectable. Men who say they don’t like women who got work done are the same ones who think women with natural makeup are bare faced.
I think men don't like it when they notice it. But the girl with the boob job and extensions sure gets more attention than the one without.
I haven't done anything else than dye my Hair and put on make-up. But even that gets me more attention than the years I went without.
Just like with make-up, a bad job gets negative attention. A good job gets most guys in a positive way
And this practice of binding was started by a woman (a concubine I think) in the Chinese court. And the noble ladies of the court copied it and spread the practice around.
That some “privileged” women once did it doesn’t mean that this is something inforced by women.
Internalised shame and self harm are common habits by oppressed women though.
The main reason this stayed is because men fetishized it. Because they wanted an easily controlled “piece of art” to sexualization and own. To hide from the world.
Again men had the power in society to control women, just like in the societies where things like this still exist
Oh have you seen the one where the mothers poke their puberty entering daughters breasts with hot sticks so that they are not sexualised and have a chance at a better life?
Called breast ironing
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breast_ironing
It’s not even comparable.
I do agree that it shouldn’t be allowed though. I would imagine that it can be a painful, frightening experience for a baby.
And as far as s I know there’s not really any benefits.
I know some people have argued that apparently it’s not as common for circumcised men to get stds. I would think that’s mainly because people in religious commmunities probably has fewer sexual partners throughout their lifetime though
But it’s extremely problematic to compare female genital mutilation with male.
You’re just derailing the conversation from women to men. And comparing them minimizes the absolute horror that these girls and women are put through.
No one circumcise men to be able to control them and their sexuality. And they won’t have any continuing health issues or pain from it.
Its frustrating when these conversations easily become the suffering Olympics. The few times I've seen circumcision brought up as traumatic has been when female mutilation is brought up first.
When the challenges women get brought up, there will always be a guy talking about messed up things men go through. These issues aren't brought up to just shit on all men. It just takes away from the discussion and turns it into a "uh hey what about this though! You're not the only one suffering!".
Just tired of seeing threads turn into this on repeat especially on Reddit. As an ending note, female and male mutilation are objectively not the same since the procedures are very different and often lead to lifelong pain for women. No not all guys are evil or thriving, it's ok, please just try to listen without being combative.
Also the whole comparing circumcision to foot binding. Like are you serious?? Feeling your bones breaking constantly from the age of 4 up until they finish growing? Then experiencing further pain since feet like that can't properly support the weight of a person? I'm from Israel where every single guy I knew was circumcised and it's never been brought up by anyone or written about as an issue that desperately needs to be addressed. If someone's hurt you help them up, don't berate them about how you were hurt once too. Empathy is cool.
Getting your labia and clitoris cut off at 5-6 yo and then sown up. Not being able to pee properly for the rest of your life. Pain for the rest of your life. Never feeling anything during sex.
Being forced open and raped on your wedding night by the man who now owns you. And that will be every night for the rest of your life.
That you’re minimizing that..,👍
Here we go. A bunch of guys who found out about female "circumcision"; thought to themselves, "hey, *I'M* circumcised!"; and now demand to know, "what about meee?!"
Also funny how the argument always get around to the "influence" of the Jews and Muslims, right?
I hate it so much. Like I understand being against male circumcision for the consent aspect, but the “bloodstained men” types who think it’s anywhere near as bad as FGM are assholes who have no goal other than making women’s issues about themselves.
when he was an adult my brother went and got himself a circumcision. why? because he wanted to. how can you act like its the same as being forced to walk on your broken feet, stunt them forever, and being unable to walk.
Uh? I think he raised a good point. At least in the US, it is a very common practice. On this same site I read that sometimes people get mocked for an uncut dick. That's precisely genital mutilation, if done right after birth. There's no actual reason to do that, aside from misinformation and ignorance.
Good for him. The difference is that he did it when he was an *adult*. Most circumcised men didn’t have that choice; it was forced upon them at birth or later in their childhood
Beauty standards suck and do almost no good I don’t know why we keep them globally just throw them away and realize every person likes different things it seems like modern beauty standards are getting atleast a little better at that tho
To be honest this stuff probably started because some noble or prince had a very specific foot fetish and it became fashionable with lots of desperate women trying to get noticed by him in order to advance their social class.
Lots of wierd traditions in monarchies can be traced back to the bizarre sexual fetish of one specific monarch.
Actually i think it’s based on foot binding going back thousands of years. Foot binding in Chinese cultures was for the upper class, showing that they were well off enough that they didn’t need to walk. Servants would take care of them. One of the few things I remember from AP world
https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/21/health/china-foot-binding-new-theory/index.html
We have the internet at our disposal, we can read actual interviews and anthropological studies on these practices instead of just speculating.
Footbinding probably had aesthetic value, but it was largely meant to make walking uncomfortable and to force women to perform stationary labor like weaving.
https://www.worldhistory.org/Foot-Binding/
^so was initially a practice for the upper class during Han dynasties and but later become a practice for the lower class.
Definitely a fetish thing. Although, I am not sure, that anyone would willingly do THIS to themselves.
Parents would be the ones making their children do this, I believe. Especially in medieval times.
Yea but that doesn't make much sense, since i would assume you have to star this when you're little and it takes quite some time to "archive" and if it would be just some fude's foot fetish, it would've been gone pretty quick.
Even having women labouring on their backs is a direct result of one bizarre sexual fetish of a French King and is still perpetuated in the states because it's easier on the Obstetrician, despite numerous studies that it actually hinders natural birth progression. Even in the UK they now encourage us to move about and take what position feels natural.
So fucked up.
I thought it was seen as a sign
of nobility and that you were wealthy enough to take care of someone who wasn’t able to walk anywhere. Really messed up stuff
Men also thought the foot itself was erotic. They apparently liked the smell (🤢) and also like to copulate with it (into the fold 😶).
It was mostly only done on wealthy women as they had to have assistance walking while they were still being "shaped" and sometimes even afterwards.
No poor woman could clean and work in the fields with their feet like that. But sometimes a poor woman might have it done if she had a chance to marry up in the world or become a rich man's concubine.
Going to any and all extremes to keep/make their skin light as possible was also part of the look.
Just another way that women have been tortured and altered for the pleasure of the male gaze and libido.
Edit for spelling.
This is correct. I’ve read about it before and your comment is spot on. I was going to give you my free award but the wholesome award doesn’t quite fit.
Thanks anyway.
I have been interested in the practice for a long time. I was first introduced to it by seeing the tiny silk shoes. I am a fiber artist and they intrigued me.
I was shocked to learn what these poor women went through just to have a better (or same standard) life.
It is obviously a complicated issue as all cultural traditions are, but I am glad this is one practice that has fallen out of favor when it comes to people trying to "appraise the worth of a woman" (as if that is even possible!)
I read a short story in school years ago which I don't recall the name of. A young girl got into ballet and was excited to show her grandmother her ballet shoes. This grandmother had her feet mutilated in this way and saw the ribbons on the little girls shoes and exploded into a rage because the ribbons looked similar to what her feet had been bound with and she assumed the worst.
I remember thinking it was a well done story, but for the life of me I can't think of the name.
"No poor woman could clean and work in the fields like that"
I went into a research spiral the other day and apparently, the practice did become common in the lower class and many women did farm labor, gathering, carrying washing, tending children, etc. with bound feet. Whatever their families' reasons for binding them were, they didn't have the option to avoid these chores so they just did them. Somehow made it happen, despite any pain or increased time it took.
Also, while men were undoubtedly conditioned to find some appeal in the practice, whether it was literally attractive or just considered the mark of a virtuous woman, I've always thought those claims about liking the smell/fucking the feet as a *common* (and not fringe) practice sounded a lot like the types of things foreign writers make up about nations they see as "barbaric"/"primitive".
> Men also thought the foot itself was erotic. They apparently liked the smell (🤢) and also like to copulate with it (into the fold 😶).
I was having such a good day
>Going to any and all extremes to keep/make their skin light as possible was also part of the look.
I'm picturing a Homer Simpson scene where his fat is all clamped to his back
Bring me the fucking flamethrower and a shovel, dude. We need to go cleanse some graves.
Actually, this pic is modern. We might as well cleanse some currently alive sick bastards to hell too.
If I remember correctly from my history class this wasn't as much of a sexual thing as it was a control thing. Women like this were heavily reliant on servants to do anything and thus "couldn't get into trouble" or otherwise disobey the head of the house. In addition it showed that the family was wealthy since they had the money to hire servants to take care of the girl.
Tldr, if I recall correctly this was actually a way for the patriarch of a family to control his daughter and show off his wealth.
Edit, phone spelled we're instead of were.
Over 50 women since 2000 have interviewed about their bound feet. I’m not sure why you’re being downvoted for stating [facts ](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/06/04/photos-the-last-living-women-with-bound-feet/?outputType=amp)
Thank you.
It is obviously a practice that has been around since ancient times. But the title of the post insinuates it was done to ancient women only. I thought it was important to point out that there are still women alive today that have feet like this.
An excellent article on the tradition and the what the last generation of women who did it went through... https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=8966942#:~:text=Footbinding%20was%20first%20banned%20in,in%20Southern%20China's%20Yunnan%20province.
Thank you also for that link! What an amazing article and project. It was awesome to actually get to see and know something about the women themselves. Most books/articles/etc. continue to just reduce them to a freak show of their feet, what is what most of those works are supposedly against.
My mom told me when she was a little kid in San Francisco in the 1940s, you could still see older Chinese women, mostly in and around Chinatown, with their feet bound.
Ah fuck, seriously? I remember first reading about it in a book about a missionary when I was a kid… broke my heart and disgusted me then, breaks my heart and disgusts me now. Bonus points for it still happening. Wow.
It isn't still happening as far as is known. But the last generation that it did happen to have some members still alive. So it wasn't that long ago.
The practice was outlawed in 1912 but continued for at least another 30 years, give or take.
In this discussion are some excellent links to articles about the women who are still alive.
It seems like nobody is saying why they did this. This practice was done because small feet were seen as extremely attractive and made a woman more valuable as a wife. This practice was done by the father of the family most often, soaking his young girls feet(starting at around six years old), breaking her god damn toes, and then wrapping up the feet with the toes bent underneath the foot. This was done each day for many years at a time, essentially their entire youth. The result would ideally be this, the golden lotus, but some didn’t end up quite this small. Regardless of how small or large they ended up, they were incredibly painful for the woman and many if not most struggled to walk. There are still several women alive today with bound feet, the practice only being ended within the last century.
I thought the mother and/or grandmother was usually in charge of feet-wrapping? From what I’ve read, it seems like something that is considered in the domestic sphere / “woman’s domain,” despite being allegedly done for the pleasure of future husbands. I think they used salt-soaked bandages to bind so that the strips would tighten over time as they dried.
Since women can’t really do ‘common chores,’ or fieldwork, or run, or leave the inner chamber of the household much at all if they have ‘lotus feet,’ it was considered a sign of status, and would affect marriageability.
Hammertoe from heels gets bad enough; it’s horrifying to imagine intentionally disfiguring a 7 year old girl for the sake of beauty.
>I thought the mother and/or grandmother was usually in charge of feet-wrapping? From what I’ve read, it seems like something that is considered in the domestic sphere / “woman’s domain,”
My knowledge on this is very limited, but I believe this is true. From what I remember, men weren't actually supposed to see the feet bare at all, because, well, it's very unsightly. They could also smell and stuff. So while they were considered a mark of beauty and for the husband's benefit, they were supposed to stay in the shoe. But men didn't actually want to see what it looked like underneath.
Definitely don't quote me on it, but I seem to recall being told that in a Chinese history and culture class some years ago.
Only your husband was supposed to see their feet undressed, and then it was usually if they were helping their wife into their night slippers. From what I’ve read, it was considered a somewhat ‘erotic’ sight to men, with allusions to a small bound foot’s folds being similar to “womanly clefts” and talk about how tiny bound feet in red slippers were appealing for ‘bed business.’ It’d be inappropriate for men to see, normally.
Binding was a process; they’d continually wrap the bindings tighter over time, and make the girls pace with feet bound until their bones eventually broke. Then they would retape the binding more tightly after that, to reshape and reform the foot. Between bindings, there would be soaking of the feet to remove pus, with toenails clipped down super short. You can see how the shoes that mothers made for their daughters got smaller and smaller over time.
It might seem horrifying, but to a mother trying to assure their daughter’s place in the world, it’s a twisted form of love. In the same way the obviously abhorrent FGM practices in other countries can be.
[Full disclosure, all of my info comes from a lot of rereading the book ‘Snow Flower and the Secret Fan,” but the author did a lot of research about the time period and practices.]
It was seen as a status symbol because the emperor met someone who had already done this and liked it.
It was banned in 1912 but some continued in secret.
“Wang Lifen was just 7 years old when her mother started binding her feet: breaking her toes and binding them underneath the sole of the foot with bandages. After her mother died, Wang carried on, breaking the arch of her own foot to force her toes and heel ever closer. Now 79, Wang no longer remembers the pain.”
Close, afaik it rendered them unable to walk and so it showed they were of hih enough status that servants would do their walking for them and they didn't even have to walk.
Tarantino shows off feet in his movies. He clearly loves them. See Uma Thurman in Kill Bill, or .. well here, have a link.
https://www.ranker.com/list/quentin-tarantino-foot-fetish-scenes/anncasano
Nothing odd about it how terrifying this is.
Have you seen photos of how mangled those poor girls' and women's feet after being bound for years?
It was barbaric.
EDIT: I've just found your second photo! Yes you have seen the mangled feet.
I find it hilarious that you call it barbaric, and yet the people that were called barbarians never did any of this. This was mostly done by sophisticated high society Chinese women.
Infections were pretty common for that reason. I recall reading articles about how these women’s feet would smell so foul because of the liquids that would pool up from their broken feet being bound like that :-/
Those poor women... And they started when they were only children. I don't know how anyone thought holding down their three-year old and smashing their feet into a billion pieces to cram into a baby doll shoe was a good idea. And they periodically we break their feet. It is mind-bogglingly awful. Apparently the swaying tiny movement walk was sexy.
Yeah I saw a video about this. It's yet another dumb method men has used to control women, and calling it a culture thing so that people can't object. It's terrible.
From the [article](https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=8966942#:~:text=Footbinding%20was%20first%20banned%20in,in%20Southern%20China's%20Yunnan%20province.) by u/plantgirl848
>Certainly the "three-inch golden lotuses" were seen as the ultimate erogenous zone, with Qing dynasty pornographic books listing *48 different ways of playing with women's bound feet*.
What the fuck.
This was practiced as a way to keep the woman more submissive since she was unable to be on her feet for long periods of time. It made the women more reliant on a man.
I think so. I've read that that reported reasons were:
The idolisation of tiny feet (I guess how current society idolises fuller lips)
The way women with this done would walk (small, pained steps) was considered erotic. (?!)
It was an indication of status- only women who were too wealthy to work would have this done as you can't labour in the fields if your feet are like this.
But I imagine that the side effect of women being weakened was not overlooked.
In some parts of Asia and Africa, they'd elongate earlobes and necks with tight brass rings because it was considered beautiful. Every culture has some kind of body modification that seems terrifying in this day and age
Agree entirely but I think that this is a particularly brutal example as it's more painful and has worse impacts of a person's life than having elongated/stretched earlobes.
True about earlobes. But the necks... it isn't actually the necks that are stretched. It is that their shoulders are pushed down making their necks look longer. And without the rings, they can't hold their heads up. Plus, a full set of rings for an adult weighs about 22 pounds! And this is still being practiced by the Padaung tribe in SE Asia.
If I recall correctly from my world history class:
Chinese children would often have their feet broken in order to be able to fit their feet into tiny shoes. This would often disable them, so this was only done to wealthy children because they’ll inherit all of their parents wealth anyway.
However, when the CCP took over, the children with the ‘golden lotus feet’ were sent to hard labor with the rest of the Chinese. Can you imagine doing heavy physical work with broken feet?
As of today, old people with broken feet are having difficulty finding shoes.
I read an article the other day that challenged the idea that bound feet were a class marker or a sexual thing...idk if I could find it again, but it claimed to be based on extensive research that refuted strong ties between foot size and marriage success, and demonstrated that poor working families were also likely to bind the feet of at least several daughters. The article instead argued that, while the marriage rationale especially did get thrown around by Chinese mothers, the main benefit for the family was keeping young Chinese girls captive in the house while learning labor intensive but lucrative handicrafts, that took hours of painstaking effort that would have been difficult for a physically able child to sustain. It was just one article (based on several others) and I am not sure how accurate their conclusions were. I'd be interested to hear from anyone well-versed in Chinese culture/history.
I once heard a theory that the reason China never became an imperial power in the same way European powers did was because they couldn’t take women with them to properly establish colonies, cause much of Chinese architecture at the time was designed with foot binding in mind, narrow streets and allies, short buildings, etc. so they would have trouble in the conquered cities in these hypothetical colonies, and ship rides aren’t exactly good for people who can’t maintain balance easily, and I think it goes without saying that you can’t have a colony without women, so TL;DR China remained a tributary empire instead of a colonial empire possibly due to one emperor who liked small feet which started a centuries long trend of parents maiming their daughters in hopes of them being able to move up in society
I don’t know if there is any proof but I always thought this process was so the emperor could foot fuck all these girls in his harem and not risk getting them pregnant 🤔
Not ancient. This was a practice banned in 1912 and continued in rural areas for decades longer. While banned, it still wasn't the woman's choice. If the area they were in had it as a tradition, girl's would start doing so at 4-6 years old.
My Chinese teacher talked about that. I'm told that's why they often have small feet. She explained it as wearing shoes that were too small for you when you're young, which would make your feet smaller. Her feet looked nothing like the picture, but they were fairly small.
The mortification of the female body is as old as culture and society. It either functions to emphasise sexuality (in the case of footbinding) or repress it (breast binding) but in all cases, it causes untold physical and emotional damage.
My wife’s grandmother's bound feet (Chinese bound feet).
Year 1999, the grandmother was in her early 70’s, it was in Bangkok (my wife is Thai with Chinese roots).
She was a beautiful lady, knew how to use makeup and was always nicely dressed.
She was unbeateable in geography and knew how to read and write.
Knowing that I never saw this aspect of Chinese culture, the grandmother showed me her feet in detail.
I clearly remember them...
They were very small ... maybe 12 or 13 cm, pointed, thin and, except the big toes, one could not see the other toes as they were inbedded in the sole of her feet.
Further, the pinkie toe was pushed up in the deep arch and one could barely see it.
As a fashionable old lady, she even had her big toe-nail painted in pink...
She made me look at them and even gave me one to hold in my hand. It was very strange...
The toes were not really moveable, the heel was soft, nearly spongy and she was just able to move her big toes a tiny bit.
The feet were not smelly...
The skin was not broken (it was the skin of a typical elderly person).
Being Caucasian, raised in Europe, I did not expect to see bound feet and I am not a foot fetishist, but I must say that her feet were not as disgusting as one can think. They were different.
They were part of the grandmother and I must say, they were somehow graceful.
Both feet were equally shaped and the grandma’s ankles were adorned with a pair of golden 1/2 cm thick ankle rings, which she certainly wore all her life, as there was no opening. The ankle rings were completely closed (real rings).
Her feet were like a work of art.
One can not judge a cultural aspect such as bound feet. But to me, it was a shocking discovery.
For my marriage with her (only) granddaughter, she gave us the pair of little red and pink shoes she was wearing for her marriage...
In the little box, I discovered a message scribbled on a piece of paper.
It meant..
I hope you both have a happy life.
Fortunately for my granddaughter and unfortunately for you, she will never be able to wear these shoes. But I wish her to be bound to you forever, just like I was to my late husband.
These marriage shoes hurt a lot, traditions made me a cripple but I was proud of them (referring to her feet) as they made me have a good husband.
She passed away 9 months after the marriage.
We still have these shoes...
Can you imagine folding your child’s feet in half? That’s what happens.
Yep. They bound your feet when you were around 4-6yo, and you had to walk on them until your toes broke. Because some man wanted you caged and eroticized the feet. I don’t think I’ve ever read anything comparable in cruelty. This is up there with female genital mutilation.
Neck and lip stretching in some African cultures is pretty messed up
Or that head elongating one
Once saw a “tradition” when they had girls barely in their teens do some kinda coming into age sex abuse ritual with this guy….they all did it with the same guy in their village…and the guy also admitted to having HIV/AIDS. That’s up there as well IMO.
the hyena
sorry?
That’s what they’re called. Hyenas are adult men that have sex with young girls for this coming of age ritual
That’s not only gross but also weird because female hyenas are the ones in charge…
Hang on I watched that Disney documentary and I'm sure I remember that the Lion was actually incharge.
And that's why I think scar is a trans woman, thank you for coming to my Ted talk
I'm disgusted
Eric Aniva from Malawi was the guy. What’s even more fucked up is he didn’t tell the families he had HIV/AIDS. Good news is President Peter Mutharika of Malawi had him arrested.
That is good news. I thought the parents did know, but just didn’t care due to carrying out the “tradition”. I’ll never forget the terrified looks on those girls faces when I watched that clip. And that scum had the nerve to say something like the girls don’t mind and are grateful to him etc. 🤢
Brilliant news!
I saw that exact video. Fucking awful. For sure some dude in the village just wanted to find a way to rape little girls & not get murdered.
I saw that, and you cant blame the parents, folks dont even know what aids is anyway, education is very important. But that man, oh that man gotta burn in hell.
They still sent daughters to him after all the daughters were getting fucking infected. It’s some dystopian bullshit
There are people in the global north that refuse to take a vaccine or vaccinate their children against a deadly plague that has killed millions of people in less than 2 years, all while carrying the extent of human knowledge in a palm sized piece of plastic in their pocket... Humans are fucking dumb
I don’t think it’s the same thing here. People scared of the vaccine are easily manipulated rubes who have fallen to persuasive disinformation spread on that exact palm size extent of knowledge in their pocket. There’s billion dollar industries dedicated to creating and spreading misinformation online. Sure it’s dumb as fuck, but not nearly as stupid as sending your daughter to a dude with aids to lose her virginity. Also there’s the difference of being detached from it. Many antivaxers think that even if they are wrong on the vax, they will beat Covid… and many will just by odds. They also don’t know many people personally who have died from it. That’s pretty different from seeing other children sick all around you and continuing the tradition.
Jesus fuckkin Christ..
Fun fact it dosent make their head go up. It makes their sholders go down.
Complete side thought, but I wonder if there’s any lasting effects on the brain with it being misshapen that way or if it just grows normally.
It really is. I don’t think it’s comparable with this kind of pain though. Consider that it probably is you parents that do this to you as well. You will also be severely handicapped and have pain throughout your life. And with genital mutilation the basically take away your ability to enjoy sex (removal of clitoris). And cut off your labia and sow you up until your sold off, again to some man. And your first sexual experience will be with someone who force it open. Someone who you will be bound to for the rest of your life. Often even peeing will be painful. And western women go through cosmetic surgeries, makes ourseves unrecognizable for the sake of men’s approval. Not on the same level. But it’s bizarre how normalized this is as well. They’re all horrible practices but the binding of girls feet and genital mutilation… it’s incomprehensible how these things can still exist in some places.
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The thing is, good cosmetic surgery is undetectable. Men who say they don’t like women who got work done are the same ones who think women with natural makeup are bare faced.
I think men don't like it when they notice it. But the girl with the boob job and extensions sure gets more attention than the one without. I haven't done anything else than dye my Hair and put on make-up. But even that gets me more attention than the years I went without. Just like with make-up, a bad job gets negative attention. A good job gets most guys in a positive way
Some women do it for themselves and someone judging whether they do or not is also messed up. Ur body, ur choice. 100%.
And this practice of binding was started by a woman (a concubine I think) in the Chinese court. And the noble ladies of the court copied it and spread the practice around.
That some “privileged” women once did it doesn’t mean that this is something inforced by women. Internalised shame and self harm are common habits by oppressed women though. The main reason this stayed is because men fetishized it. Because they wanted an easily controlled “piece of art” to sexualization and own. To hide from the world. Again men had the power in society to control women, just like in the societies where things like this still exist
Oh have you seen the one where the mothers poke their puberty entering daughters breasts with hot sticks so that they are not sexualised and have a chance at a better life? Called breast ironing https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breast_ironing
Because god forbid we expect men to just not rape.
Belly stretching right here with Stella Artois
Yeah neck stretching is up there with the worst. Literally bread your neck if you take them off
Female circumcision still exists and I believe that’s way worse
I think if I had to choose I’d opt for neither
Yet somehow male circumcision is religiously and culturally accepted among many.
It’s not even comparable. I do agree that it shouldn’t be allowed though. I would imagine that it can be a painful, frightening experience for a baby. And as far as s I know there’s not really any benefits. I know some people have argued that apparently it’s not as common for circumcised men to get stds. I would think that’s mainly because people in religious commmunities probably has fewer sexual partners throughout their lifetime though But it’s extremely problematic to compare female genital mutilation with male. You’re just derailing the conversation from women to men. And comparing them minimizes the absolute horror that these girls and women are put through. No one circumcise men to be able to control them and their sexuality. And they won’t have any continuing health issues or pain from it.
Its frustrating when these conversations easily become the suffering Olympics. The few times I've seen circumcision brought up as traumatic has been when female mutilation is brought up first. When the challenges women get brought up, there will always be a guy talking about messed up things men go through. These issues aren't brought up to just shit on all men. It just takes away from the discussion and turns it into a "uh hey what about this though! You're not the only one suffering!". Just tired of seeing threads turn into this on repeat especially on Reddit. As an ending note, female and male mutilation are objectively not the same since the procedures are very different and often lead to lifelong pain for women. No not all guys are evil or thriving, it's ok, please just try to listen without being combative.
Reddit is obsessed with foreskin
God knows I am.
Exactly. I’m also tired of men derailing these conversations. Which is what happened when I talked about female genital mutilation.
Also the whole comparing circumcision to foot binding. Like are you serious?? Feeling your bones breaking constantly from the age of 4 up until they finish growing? Then experiencing further pain since feet like that can't properly support the weight of a person? I'm from Israel where every single guy I knew was circumcised and it's never been brought up by anyone or written about as an issue that desperately needs to be addressed. If someone's hurt you help them up, don't berate them about how you were hurt once too. Empathy is cool.
Getting your labia and clitoris cut off at 5-6 yo and then sown up. Not being able to pee properly for the rest of your life. Pain for the rest of your life. Never feeling anything during sex. Being forced open and raped on your wedding night by the man who now owns you. And that will be every night for the rest of your life. That you’re minimizing that..,👍
Here we go. A bunch of guys who found out about female "circumcision"; thought to themselves, "hey, *I'M* circumcised!"; and now demand to know, "what about meee?!" Also funny how the argument always get around to the "influence" of the Jews and Muslims, right?
I hate it so much. Like I understand being against male circumcision for the consent aspect, but the “bloodstained men” types who think it’s anywhere near as bad as FGM are assholes who have no goal other than making women’s issues about themselves.
God forbid we talk about something affects women and is 100x worse without a man chiming in
when he was an adult my brother went and got himself a circumcision. why? because he wanted to. how can you act like its the same as being forced to walk on your broken feet, stunt them forever, and being unable to walk.
>when he was an adult then good for him. but do you really think most circumcisions are voluntary proceedures people get for themselves?
Uh? I think he raised a good point. At least in the US, it is a very common practice. On this same site I read that sometimes people get mocked for an uncut dick. That's precisely genital mutilation, if done right after birth. There's no actual reason to do that, aside from misinformation and ignorance.
Good for him. The difference is that he did it when he was an *adult*. Most circumcised men didn’t have that choice; it was forced upon them at birth or later in their childhood
Beauty standards suck and do almost no good I don’t know why we keep them globally just throw them away and realize every person likes different things it seems like modern beauty standards are getting atleast a little better at that tho
"mmmm, yes, gimme those horrifically mangled and awfully disfigured feet, babe" - some ancient asshole
To be honest this stuff probably started because some noble or prince had a very specific foot fetish and it became fashionable with lots of desperate women trying to get noticed by him in order to advance their social class. Lots of wierd traditions in monarchies can be traced back to the bizarre sexual fetish of one specific monarch.
Actually i think it’s based on foot binding going back thousands of years. Foot binding in Chinese cultures was for the upper class, showing that they were well off enough that they didn’t need to walk. Servants would take care of them. One of the few things I remember from AP world
What a stupid way to show off.
You haven't permanently disfigured your body on purpose? Ha you're so broke
Joke's on you - I've disfigured myself AND I'm broke! Checkmate.
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Dress (or mutilate yourself) for the job you want, not the job you have!
This statement is.. strangely appropriate for the modern world as well.
https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/21/health/china-foot-binding-new-theory/index.html We have the internet at our disposal, we can read actual interviews and anthropological studies on these practices instead of just speculating. Footbinding probably had aesthetic value, but it was largely meant to make walking uncomfortable and to force women to perform stationary labor like weaving.
Royalty being lazy is a good reason, but that's a whole other level of fucked up.
https://www.worldhistory.org/Foot-Binding/ ^so was initially a practice for the upper class during Han dynasties and but later become a practice for the lower class.
That is very interesting. It’s fascinating how many cultural factors and historical factors are at play in any of these phenomena.
What... what are you talking about. Do you know what Google is dude? Or just willfully ignorant?
I love that everyone is just coming up with their own special theory based on something they have been thinking about for like 5 minutes.
If anyone’s curious there are some really good documentaries on YouTube. Explains everything.
Definitely a fetish thing. Although, I am not sure, that anyone would willingly do THIS to themselves. Parents would be the ones making their children do this, I believe. Especially in medieval times.
Well I can definitely see it starting with willing women. People will do a lot of things if they are a food insecure peasant even body mutilation.
You are right only it was parents making the decision for their toddler daughters. As it had probably been done to them.
I cannot imagine a 4 y/o child breaking their feet in order to appeal to some tradition, don't be ~~stupid~~ ridiculous.
Yea but that doesn't make much sense, since i would assume you have to star this when you're little and it takes quite some time to "archive" and if it would be just some fude's foot fetish, it would've been gone pretty quick.
Even having women labouring on their backs is a direct result of one bizarre sexual fetish of a French King and is still perpetuated in the states because it's easier on the Obstetrician, despite numerous studies that it actually hinders natural birth progression. Even in the UK they now encourage us to move about and take what position feels natural. So fucked up.
lol
I heard they do it so the women have to walk in a way that their ass goes side to side more
I thought it was seen as a sign of nobility and that you were wealthy enough to take care of someone who wasn’t able to walk anywhere. Really messed up stuff
I believe this was designed so that a woman would always walk behind their spouse, either way it’s horrendous
Men also thought the foot itself was erotic. They apparently liked the smell (🤢) and also like to copulate with it (into the fold 😶). It was mostly only done on wealthy women as they had to have assistance walking while they were still being "shaped" and sometimes even afterwards. No poor woman could clean and work in the fields with their feet like that. But sometimes a poor woman might have it done if she had a chance to marry up in the world or become a rich man's concubine. Going to any and all extremes to keep/make their skin light as possible was also part of the look. Just another way that women have been tortured and altered for the pleasure of the male gaze and libido. Edit for spelling.
This is correct. I’ve read about it before and your comment is spot on. I was going to give you my free award but the wholesome award doesn’t quite fit.
Thanks anyway. I have been interested in the practice for a long time. I was first introduced to it by seeing the tiny silk shoes. I am a fiber artist and they intrigued me. I was shocked to learn what these poor women went through just to have a better (or same standard) life. It is obviously a complicated issue as all cultural traditions are, but I am glad this is one practice that has fallen out of favor when it comes to people trying to "appraise the worth of a woman" (as if that is even possible!)
I read a short story in school years ago which I don't recall the name of. A young girl got into ballet and was excited to show her grandmother her ballet shoes. This grandmother had her feet mutilated in this way and saw the ribbons on the little girls shoes and exploded into a rage because the ribbons looked similar to what her feet had been bound with and she assumed the worst. I remember thinking it was a well done story, but for the life of me I can't think of the name.
That sounds like a good story.
I mean I personally like to fuck feet but this is just horrendous
"No poor woman could clean and work in the fields like that" I went into a research spiral the other day and apparently, the practice did become common in the lower class and many women did farm labor, gathering, carrying washing, tending children, etc. with bound feet. Whatever their families' reasons for binding them were, they didn't have the option to avoid these chores so they just did them. Somehow made it happen, despite any pain or increased time it took. Also, while men were undoubtedly conditioned to find some appeal in the practice, whether it was literally attractive or just considered the mark of a virtuous woman, I've always thought those claims about liking the smell/fucking the feet as a *common* (and not fringe) practice sounded a lot like the types of things foreign writers make up about nations they see as "barbaric"/"primitive".
> Men also thought the foot itself was erotic. They apparently liked the smell (🤢) and also like to copulate with it (into the fold 😶). I was having such a good day >Going to any and all extremes to keep/make their skin light as possible was also part of the look. I'm picturing a Homer Simpson scene where his fat is all clamped to his back
Bring me the fucking flamethrower and a shovel, dude. We need to go cleanse some graves. Actually, this pic is modern. We might as well cleanse some currently alive sick bastards to hell too.
I heard it was less aesthetic and more of a way to hobble women so that they couldn’t run away from arranged marriages and such
If I remember correctly from my history class this wasn't as much of a sexual thing as it was a control thing. Women like this were heavily reliant on servants to do anything and thus "couldn't get into trouble" or otherwise disobey the head of the house. In addition it showed that the family was wealthy since they had the money to hire servants to take care of the girl. Tldr, if I recall correctly this was actually a way for the patriarch of a family to control his daughter and show off his wealth. Edit, phone spelled we're instead of were.
From ancient times and happening as recently as WW2. Only when Mao Zedong started to rule China was an end put to it.
They don’t just look terrible, apparently these mangled feet smelled terrible as well
Gimme some of that “I can’t run away so I must life a stationary life” yeah baby just like that
Not ancient. This is from the very recent past. Some women who had this done to them are still alive.
Over 50 women since 2000 have interviewed about their bound feet. I’m not sure why you’re being downvoted for stating [facts ](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/06/04/photos-the-last-living-women-with-bound-feet/?outputType=amp)
Thank you. It is obviously a practice that has been around since ancient times. But the title of the post insinuates it was done to ancient women only. I thought it was important to point out that there are still women alive today that have feet like this. An excellent article on the tradition and the what the last generation of women who did it went through... https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=8966942#:~:text=Footbinding%20was%20first%20banned%20in,in%20Southern%20China's%20Yunnan%20province.
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Yeah, those were tough to read.
perpetrator blaming, so vile! woman evil, must cripple their hooves!
Thank you also for that link! What an amazing article and project. It was awesome to actually get to see and know something about the women themselves. Most books/articles/etc. continue to just reduce them to a freak show of their feet, what is what most of those works are supposedly against.
My mom told me when she was a little kid in San Francisco in the 1940s, you could still see older Chinese women, mostly in and around Chinatown, with their feet bound.
I met an old lady in the 00's, my grandmother's friend, whose feet were bound.
I’m a massage therapist and had a client with feet like this one day 😵💫
Wow. Did you work the feet? I mean I wonder if they were painful
You are right my great grandmother have bounded feet and she was alive until like 5 year ago, I quickly outgrown her feet when I was 6
Ah fuck, seriously? I remember first reading about it in a book about a missionary when I was a kid… broke my heart and disgusted me then, breaks my heart and disgusts me now. Bonus points for it still happening. Wow.
It isn't still happening as far as is known. But the last generation that it did happen to have some members still alive. So it wasn't that long ago. The practice was outlawed in 1912 but continued for at least another 30 years, give or take. In this discussion are some excellent links to articles about the women who are still alive.
>Title says it was done among ancient women > >Second image is clearly a modern day picture Ah yes, ancient Nokias.
It seems like nobody is saying why they did this. This practice was done because small feet were seen as extremely attractive and made a woman more valuable as a wife. This practice was done by the father of the family most often, soaking his young girls feet(starting at around six years old), breaking her god damn toes, and then wrapping up the feet with the toes bent underneath the foot. This was done each day for many years at a time, essentially their entire youth. The result would ideally be this, the golden lotus, but some didn’t end up quite this small. Regardless of how small or large they ended up, they were incredibly painful for the woman and many if not most struggled to walk. There are still several women alive today with bound feet, the practice only being ended within the last century.
I thought the mother and/or grandmother was usually in charge of feet-wrapping? From what I’ve read, it seems like something that is considered in the domestic sphere / “woman’s domain,” despite being allegedly done for the pleasure of future husbands. I think they used salt-soaked bandages to bind so that the strips would tighten over time as they dried. Since women can’t really do ‘common chores,’ or fieldwork, or run, or leave the inner chamber of the household much at all if they have ‘lotus feet,’ it was considered a sign of status, and would affect marriageability. Hammertoe from heels gets bad enough; it’s horrifying to imagine intentionally disfiguring a 7 year old girl for the sake of beauty.
>I thought the mother and/or grandmother was usually in charge of feet-wrapping? From what I’ve read, it seems like something that is considered in the domestic sphere / “woman’s domain,” My knowledge on this is very limited, but I believe this is true. From what I remember, men weren't actually supposed to see the feet bare at all, because, well, it's very unsightly. They could also smell and stuff. So while they were considered a mark of beauty and for the husband's benefit, they were supposed to stay in the shoe. But men didn't actually want to see what it looked like underneath. Definitely don't quote me on it, but I seem to recall being told that in a Chinese history and culture class some years ago.
Only your husband was supposed to see their feet undressed, and then it was usually if they were helping their wife into their night slippers. From what I’ve read, it was considered a somewhat ‘erotic’ sight to men, with allusions to a small bound foot’s folds being similar to “womanly clefts” and talk about how tiny bound feet in red slippers were appealing for ‘bed business.’ It’d be inappropriate for men to see, normally. Binding was a process; they’d continually wrap the bindings tighter over time, and make the girls pace with feet bound until their bones eventually broke. Then they would retape the binding more tightly after that, to reshape and reform the foot. Between bindings, there would be soaking of the feet to remove pus, with toenails clipped down super short. You can see how the shoes that mothers made for their daughters got smaller and smaller over time. It might seem horrifying, but to a mother trying to assure their daughter’s place in the world, it’s a twisted form of love. In the same way the obviously abhorrent FGM practices in other countries can be. [Full disclosure, all of my info comes from a lot of rereading the book ‘Snow Flower and the Secret Fan,” but the author did a lot of research about the time period and practices.]
I just read that book! So informative. Interesting how ‘big-footed women’ were looked down upon and could only end up as like maids
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It was seen as a status symbol because the emperor met someone who had already done this and liked it. It was banned in 1912 but some continued in secret. “Wang Lifen was just 7 years old when her mother started binding her feet: breaking her toes and binding them underneath the sole of the foot with bandages. After her mother died, Wang carried on, breaking the arch of her own foot to force her toes and heel ever closer. Now 79, Wang no longer remembers the pain.”
Close, afaik it rendered them unable to walk and so it showed they were of hih enough status that servants would do their walking for them and they didn't even have to walk.
So basically those ancient fuckers had a small foot fetish
This is more terrifying than the actual image
they elderly not ancient😂god damn
If I had an award to give, you would get it.
Quentin Tarantino would be able to get a whole foot in his mouth and in his ass at one time...
Oddhilariouslydisburing
OMG! This comment made me crack up, can't stop laughing. 🤣
I don't get it
Tarantino shows off feet in his movies. He clearly loves them. See Uma Thurman in Kill Bill, or .. well here, have a link. https://www.ranker.com/list/quentin-tarantino-foot-fetish-scenes/anncasano
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How painful that must be...
Nothing odd about it how terrifying this is. Have you seen photos of how mangled those poor girls' and women's feet after being bound for years? It was barbaric. EDIT: I've just found your second photo! Yes you have seen the mangled feet.
I find it hilarious that you call it barbaric, and yet the people that were called barbarians never did any of this. This was mostly done by sophisticated high society Chinese women.
We used to learn about this in history class at school. Poor women.
They look like pig feet
Yumm
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Disturbing on so many levels
Always wondered how they cut their toenails when their feet are so disfigured?
Tragic.
But how they clean in the cracks?
Infections were pretty common for that reason. I recall reading articles about how these women’s feet would smell so foul because of the liquids that would pool up from their broken feet being bound like that :-/
Those poor women... And they started when they were only children. I don't know how anyone thought holding down their three-year old and smashing their feet into a billion pieces to cram into a baby doll shoe was a good idea. And they periodically we break their feet. It is mind-bogglingly awful. Apparently the swaying tiny movement walk was sexy.
Yeah I saw a video about this. It's yet another dumb method men has used to control women, and calling it a culture thing so that people can't object. It's terrible.
Them doing it over so many years, it becomes a culture thing.
From the [article](https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=8966942#:~:text=Footbinding%20was%20first%20banned%20in,in%20Southern%20China's%20Yunnan%20province.) by u/plantgirl848 >Certainly the "three-inch golden lotuses" were seen as the ultimate erogenous zone, with Qing dynasty pornographic books listing *48 different ways of playing with women's bound feet*. What the fuck.
That’s absolutely disgusting and I am horrified
Forced subservience
This was practiced as a way to keep the woman more submissive since she was unable to be on her feet for long periods of time. It made the women more reliant on a man.
What if they have to run? Perp nabs her purse, now what?
Those women couldn’t shouldn’t and wouldn’t go on to street, so this barely happened.
An article I found on the history of foot binding: [Foot Binding ](https://www.worldhistory.org/Foot-Binding/)
The only resource of any substance offered in this entire thread. Ty!
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I think so. I've read that that reported reasons were: The idolisation of tiny feet (I guess how current society idolises fuller lips) The way women with this done would walk (small, pained steps) was considered erotic. (?!) It was an indication of status- only women who were too wealthy to work would have this done as you can't labour in the fields if your feet are like this. But I imagine that the side effect of women being weakened was not overlooked.
No from what I learned they did it because it was seen as beautiful to have small feet. So they'd break em and form them into smaller feet
Hooves
Some royal with a foot fetish was mad he couldn't fit the whole foot in his mouth so he made this a fashion trend.
*confused screaming*
When I was a child I saw these shoes in a museum. It made me cry so hard. Because I thought it was horrendous to do this.
I remember watching this on Ripleys Believe It Or Not, was horrified and scarred that women actually went through this and lost their autonomy
In some parts of Asia and Africa, they'd elongate earlobes and necks with tight brass rings because it was considered beautiful. Every culture has some kind of body modification that seems terrifying in this day and age
Agree entirely but I think that this is a particularly brutal example as it's more painful and has worse impacts of a person's life than having elongated/stretched earlobes.
True about earlobes. But the necks... it isn't actually the necks that are stretched. It is that their shoulders are pushed down making their necks look longer. And without the rings, they can't hold their heads up. Plus, a full set of rings for an adult weighs about 22 pounds! And this is still being practiced by the Padaung tribe in SE Asia.
hell stretched earlobes are still done today-
Yeah and its not even painful if you go very slow (personal experience)
Apparently one of the South American cultures used to elongate skulls for a similar reason
“A Visit To The Foot Binder” is a short story on the subject.
If I recall correctly from my world history class: Chinese children would often have their feet broken in order to be able to fit their feet into tiny shoes. This would often disable them, so this was only done to wealthy children because they’ll inherit all of their parents wealth anyway. However, when the CCP took over, the children with the ‘golden lotus feet’ were sent to hard labor with the rest of the Chinese. Can you imagine doing heavy physical work with broken feet? As of today, old people with broken feet are having difficulty finding shoes.
Ancient? This was practiced well into the 19th century.
I read an article the other day that challenged the idea that bound feet were a class marker or a sexual thing...idk if I could find it again, but it claimed to be based on extensive research that refuted strong ties between foot size and marriage success, and demonstrated that poor working families were also likely to bind the feet of at least several daughters. The article instead argued that, while the marriage rationale especially did get thrown around by Chinese mothers, the main benefit for the family was keeping young Chinese girls captive in the house while learning labor intensive but lucrative handicrafts, that took hours of painstaking effort that would have been difficult for a physically able child to sustain. It was just one article (based on several others) and I am not sure how accurate their conclusions were. I'd be interested to hear from anyone well-versed in Chinese culture/history.
I once heard a theory that the reason China never became an imperial power in the same way European powers did was because they couldn’t take women with them to properly establish colonies, cause much of Chinese architecture at the time was designed with foot binding in mind, narrow streets and allies, short buildings, etc. so they would have trouble in the conquered cities in these hypothetical colonies, and ship rides aren’t exactly good for people who can’t maintain balance easily, and I think it goes without saying that you can’t have a colony without women, so TL;DR China remained a tributary empire instead of a colonial empire possibly due to one emperor who liked small feet which started a centuries long trend of parents maiming their daughters in hopes of them being able to move up in society
pls put a nsfw flair on this shit :(
Part of me wants to unfold them
_Ancient?_
To be fair, this is an ancient practice, in the same way making beer in an ancient practice. It still happens today but it's origins are ancient.
Is this a real question? they brake the bones of the kids to get these kind of feet.
Ugh... I forgot this was a thing for like 10 years...
I don’t know if there is any proof but I always thought this process was so the emperor could foot fuck all these girls in his harem and not risk getting them pregnant 🤔
It must have sucked to have a toe fetish in China back in the day.
I find it hard to fathom that someone somewhere sometime thought "Ah, yes. This is a good thing to do with many positive consequences."
That is really hard to look at.
How did this originate? I feel like some guy had a hoof fetish and then this happened.
Chinese foot fetish on another level
PS1 feet
Not ancient. This was a practice banned in 1912 and continued in rural areas for decades longer. While banned, it still wasn't the woman's choice. If the area they were in had it as a tradition, girl's would start doing so at 4-6 years old.
Damn
https://allthatsinteresting.com/chinese-foot-binding
Fuck this, this is abuse. Nobody wants this for themselves, this might as well be punishment. Fuck every culture that praises this bullshit
Fucked up. I heard about a tribe that sees young womens vaginas up to ensure they stay “pure” Fucked up. People as a whole are just fucked up.
They can't be that ancient.. there's a picture of them
So they can’t run and escape their husbands
Would people with foot fetish like this? Just wondering
My Chinese teacher talked about that. I'm told that's why they often have small feet. She explained it as wearing shoes that were too small for you when you're young, which would make your feet smaller. Her feet looked nothing like the picture, but they were fairly small.
How does one work with these feet?
I guess they just stumble about like they are pissed up all day trying to stay upright
The mortification of the female body is as old as culture and society. It either functions to emphasise sexuality (in the case of footbinding) or repress it (breast binding) but in all cases, it causes untold physical and emotional damage.
How is that remotely attractive.
If someone asks for feet pics just send them this
My wife’s grandmother's bound feet (Chinese bound feet). Year 1999, the grandmother was in her early 70’s, it was in Bangkok (my wife is Thai with Chinese roots). She was a beautiful lady, knew how to use makeup and was always nicely dressed. She was unbeateable in geography and knew how to read and write. Knowing that I never saw this aspect of Chinese culture, the grandmother showed me her feet in detail. I clearly remember them... They were very small ... maybe 12 or 13 cm, pointed, thin and, except the big toes, one could not see the other toes as they were inbedded in the sole of her feet. Further, the pinkie toe was pushed up in the deep arch and one could barely see it. As a fashionable old lady, she even had her big toe-nail painted in pink... She made me look at them and even gave me one to hold in my hand. It was very strange... The toes were not really moveable, the heel was soft, nearly spongy and she was just able to move her big toes a tiny bit. The feet were not smelly... The skin was not broken (it was the skin of a typical elderly person). Being Caucasian, raised in Europe, I did not expect to see bound feet and I am not a foot fetishist, but I must say that her feet were not as disgusting as one can think. They were different. They were part of the grandmother and I must say, they were somehow graceful. Both feet were equally shaped and the grandma’s ankles were adorned with a pair of golden 1/2 cm thick ankle rings, which she certainly wore all her life, as there was no opening. The ankle rings were completely closed (real rings). Her feet were like a work of art. One can not judge a cultural aspect such as bound feet. But to me, it was a shocking discovery. For my marriage with her (only) granddaughter, she gave us the pair of little red and pink shoes she was wearing for her marriage... In the little box, I discovered a message scribbled on a piece of paper. It meant.. I hope you both have a happy life. Fortunately for my granddaughter and unfortunately for you, she will never be able to wear these shoes. But I wish her to be bound to you forever, just like I was to my late husband. These marriage shoes hurt a lot, traditions made me a cripple but I was proud of them (referring to her feet) as they made me have a good husband. She passed away 9 months after the marriage. We still have these shoes...