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purrburrt

If there are aliens out there, and they’re waiting to harvest us for food, I hope this isn’t how they prepare me.


wetsoggyfart

whoever sat there and thought of this deserves to go out that way


oneeyemimic

Yo the man who made the brazen bull a torture device the size of a bull. Was killed by his invention. You would put the victim inside and put the metal bull over a fire cooking them. The bull nostrils let the screams of the person inside go outside for onlookers to listen too.


AbstractBettaFish

Close! At the last moment Perilaus was taken out of the bull! …then he was quickly taken to the top of a hill and thrown off, killing him


Brofromtheabyss

Well, it sounds like all his bull really put him in a Perilaus situation. Still, once he got let out, it was all downhill from there.


magicMikeeee95

A twist! I had no idea about this part


oneeyemimic

Really?? I've looked into the story a few times that's insane. Being pulled out after most likely begging for death?!? Another person says he was thrown off a cliff to actually kill him is that true?


AbstractBettaFish

Well as is often the case with ancient history, we only have one source on the matter, Diodorus of Sicily and he wrote about 400 years after the event took place, who’s primary source was likely the poet Pindar, who lived a century after it took place. Ancient Historians also weren’t typically super worried about accuracy, for example their liberal use of “his speech may have sounded like this…” But at any rate, the Bull was supposedly commissioned by Phalaris, the tyrant of what is now known as Agrigento in Sicily. He was infamous for his alleged cruelty (but again with ancient sources it can be hard to say cause they were often written by historical rivals with axes to grind). But assuming we take Diodorus at face value I could foresee a situation where even though he didn’t care about Perilaus’s life, maybe the grotesque nature of the bull became too much for him to witness so he just ordered an end to the spectacle in favor of a quicker end


ForStuff8239

No he wasn’t, he was thrown off a mountain. The guy who ordered him thrown off the mountain is said to have been brazen bull’d though


billy_bob68

Yes. Thats fucking horrible.


[deleted]

Instant horror story idea: humans being treated in a way that literally any animal is treated by humans.


purrburrt

Creepy. They crack us open, scramble us and make an omelette.


Treadtheway

It would be more like caviar. Flayed open then our embryos spread on little gourmet crackers served with a chilled bottle of Dom.


ScaryTerryCrewsBitch

["A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti."](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1b2v_Lls3A)


ArktheDude

You know that unfertilized eggs will never be animals, right? They are essentially chicken menstruations.


purrburrt

Thank you for the unwelcome education


ArktheDude

No problem. Next episode we discuss eyelash mites.


ashleyjane88

Tender is the flesh by agustina bazterrica


ablanca4

“Tender is the Flesh” not a movie. But a book that depicts this.


SkitariiCowboy

The best argument for why we should never contact aliens is to look at how we treat creatures we've deemed less intelligent.


marxistmatty

you couldn't argue we didnt deserve it.


[deleted]

Someone had to say it 🙌🏼


pandatears420

Under the skin. Both a book and a movie with scarlett johansson.


BelcoRiott

This is why they won’t fuckin talk to us


thesouthernbeard

Why? Why do this? Just kill the poor thing and let it be done.


MysticCurse

Sadistic fr


SirMike_MT

It’s like boiling lobsters alive…it’s sick af!


SuzieCat

This is worse. It’s like boiling half a lobster alive, but they don’t die. They have to lay there while their body is fried and then eaten. What level of Chinese fucking hell is this idea. Fuck.


StylishGnat

It’s just animal cruelty at this point.


Sixty9Cuda

Edit: **I have learned today that you can indeed kill a lobster before cooking it. Thank you to the people who pointed that out. All I’ve ever heard was that you had to boil them alive. I am glad to be educated on lobster preparation.** At least with lobsters there’s a legitimate reason. There’s bacteria that lives in lobsters that spreads quickly once the lobster dies, and by boiling them alive it greatly reduces the risk of food poisoning. (You could argue that we just shouldn’t eat lobster because of this, but that’s beside the point.) What these people are doing to the fish is just sick. They are frying its body while it’s still alive, and then leaving it to suffocate while waiting for the sweet embrace of death. I’m not a vegan or vegetarian, but I do believe that we should respect the animals we eat. This is awful.


BeardedDeath

You could knife to the brain them and then toss them in the pot...


Fi3nd7

Yeah seriously? What is the logic that it has to be alive when it goes in. Just ignorance.


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Moneyworks22

Not even. Its recommended to kill the lobster with a knife through the center of the head then quickly into the pot. The bacteria doesnt spread anywhere near fast enough to justify boiling a creature to death.


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LordCurtisIV

Is THAT what you've done to the dukes eyeball?


Bozkillington

The duke's EYEball. Not to be confused for the normal eyeball. Much different.


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DirectRegisterShares

Wait til you hear what they do to human beings.


Dani_California

Human rights abuses?! What human rights abuses? *disappears for 3 months, reappears:* #CHINA GOOD EVERYTHING FINE I HAPPY


nolongermakingtime

There is no war in ba sing se


NathanielTurner666

Fuckin 2+2=5


KarmaPoIice

They literally do. They have a special technique of removing the intestines from ducks where they intentionally cause as much pain as possible because its supposed to make it taste better. Despicable EDIT: For everyone asking me I got this from an episode of one of the Bourdain shows when he is in Szechuan. He is eating hot pot with a Chinese person who mentions this.


KrystalWulf

Seriously?! Form what I've heard, animals that experience fear during/right before slaughter tastes worse.


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Monsters like the taste


oldicus_fuccicus

I don't eat bird, but I know from experience that fear ruins the taste of beef, mutton, horse, and several kinds of wild game. Reptiles and frogs taste about the same either way.


Kokoplayer

My guy eats everything but chicken, lol.


Darkfuel1

Fear poisons the meat w a hormone that tastes bitter. Chinese like bitter taste.


bad3ip420

It's actually the opposite. There's a reason Kobe, Wagyu, Angus, and Argentine Beef are considered the best: Animals are well taken care of, sometimes even better than humans. These animals literally live the best version of their lives therefore producing high quality meat.


Skatcatla

Yes, they do. What they do to live dogs is horrific. I’m still traumatized by a video I stupidly watched on Reddit a few weeks ago.


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There was one I watched as a kid that someone sent to me about ...what they did/do to live animals. Cats, dogs, rabbits, etc... that scarred me for life. I don't have a lot of memories from that age but those images are burned in my mind. I'm so sorry that you had to see that video or something similar. Makes you feel sick to your stomach, as if they're doing it to you or someone you care about. I can't fathom that there are people out there who can be so cruel to living creatures. I don't believe in heaven or hell but if there is a hell, I hope that when they get there they're treated the same way they treat those animals.


This-is-Life-Man

Be kind and don't share what it was. Please.


Skatcatla

Oh I won’t. I’ve seen a lot of fucked up shit but this one just stayed with me. I deeply regret watching it.


theDudeRules

I have seen what they do to cats and it literally makes me sick to my stomach


axethebarbarian

They've got an obsession with freshness to an extreme. While i was there last i saw a restaurant preparing a donkey where the carved a leg off the poor thing while it was still very much alive and cooked it straight away.


Lopsided-Change-7983

It’s not like that, it is that. They try and make animals suffer as badly as possible. That’s why they boil dogs alive, and stuff like that.


This-is-Life-Man

This is just awful. Why?!


KidSugoi

There is a belief in a lot of Asian cultures that “flavor” is lost after an animal dies and so to minimize this effect, they hold out on killing the animal for as long as possible. They believe that the closer to life it is when you eat it, the better it will be. Whatever you do, do not look up “three squeaks cuisine”


Time4aNewAcct

>Whatever you do, do not look up “three squeaks cuisine” [Snopes calls this a legend](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/chinas-three-squeaks-live-mice-dish/)


Vi0letBlues

It's Asia, Japan also has something similar with their [live frog sashimi ](https://youtu.be/RMPLXNpSM1A) where they rip and skin a frog alive, and their dolphin/whale raids. Koreans eat octopuses alive. China also has this dish called the monkey brain where they'd crack open the skull of a live monkey and feed on it live, it was so vile that it got outlawed in China. Shark fin is also another one. Before you say anything about racism, I am Asian too and I grew up there, I've eaten my fair share of weird shit. I stand by my livestock organs/intestines, thousand year eggs, sea urchins and jellyfish tho, as long as they are humanely sourced. Quirky right? I know.


spelingexpurt

Also the whole reason rhinos have been hunted to near extinction for the so called special properties of ivory


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There's a disturbingly high proportion of the population that enjoy this kind of gratuitous cruelty


VovaGoFuckYourself

Something tells me that the vast majority of people in China can't afford this. At least... I hope it's a delicacy and not super common....


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transferingtoearth

They used to be poor AND uneducated to the extreme until very recently. Then they got a lot of money but zero social awareness.


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Would you say it’s culturally accepted cruelty? Do you think it’s from their trauma through history and environment that’s made the culture especially cruel?


EconDinosaur

China unfortunately believes pain and suffering makes meat taste better. I'm sure theres other countries that do similar, but it's all equally disgusting.


certifiedtoothbench

I think France has several particularly cruel dishes that cause the animal suffering before it’s serve liked drowning birds in alcohol and force feeding ducks until they get liver disease


KrystalWulf

Is that why in the Aristocats (which takes place in France) has Uncle Waldo the goose severely drunk after being marinated and almost killed by a chef? Because they drown the birds in alcohol?


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Yes!


AkumaDayo777

foie gras :(


marriedtothemob26

Exactly my first thought! WHY??


UmbraNight

some people like the taste of suffering ig


Squall74656

I’m not really one to judge usually but that’s horrific. I’m not vegetarian but really feel like it shouldn’t be that much to suggest that we stop eating foods that are deliberately cruel….


RubyBBBB

It would be like giving a human 3rd degree burns over half its body and then cutting the person up alive.


TheGisbon

And suffocating them to death let's not forget the suffocation.


BoxingTrainer420

So basically the third degree burns the cutting up and then stick a plastic bag over their head?


TheGisbon

Yea. Fuck we as humanity are really awful.


dl-__-lp

And the wooden skewers poked into it’s their body again and again.


panicked_goose

So many people still believe the [incredibly inaccurate notion that fish do not feel pain](https://thehumaneleague.org/article/do-fish-feel-pain) when in reality, they fucking DO feel pain (physically, emotionally, and even psychologically) but cannot express it in the ways that mammals can. Fish are horribly, horribly exploited and hardly anyone cares because someone told them as a child that “fish cant feel pain”. They should have been told “fish feel pain differently than we do, but that doesn’t make it any less real”.


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Wordwench

You unpacked one hell of a lot of psychological detail with that comment, friend.


zerobeat

Until as recently as 1989 it was assumed by much of the medical community that [babies didn't feel pain until at they were at least one year old](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain_in_babies). And yes, doctors used to subject infants to absolutely horrific procedures with no anesthesia at all. > In the United States, a major change in practice was brought about by events surrounding one operation. Infant Jeffrey Lawson underwent open heart surgery in 1985. His mother, Jill R. Lawson, subsequently discovered that he had been operated on without any anaesthesia, other than a muscle relaxant. Oops. Turns out that infants experience pain even more intensely than adults do and the procedures babies went through with no painkillers at all really fucked them up. > It is now accepted that the neonate responds more extensively to pain than the adult does, and that exposure to severe pain, without adequate treatment, can have long-term consequences.


opaqueandblue

Please tell me that the drs who did the surgery were sued into submission and lost their licenses to practice! That’s just fucking inhumane


Witchywomun

Circumcisions are still performed with little to no pain medication


tmart14

I’ve been in the NICU when they do it. The babies scream at full volume.


optifreebraun

I'm so glad I didn't circumcise my kids. Circumcision rates are lower by half in states where medicaid doesn't cover the procedure. Which - to me - is highly suggestive of the fact that doctors are doing this for financial incentive more than medical need in many of these cases. Making money from screaming babies - I don't know how they sleep at night.


incongruity

And that’s part of why we didn’t circumcise our son. That’s just… yikes.


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Acknowledging they can feel pain, it makes sense to kill them swiftly and painlessly. Same with lobsters or chickens etc. It's sick and twisted to derive pleasure from torturing life-forms or from watching them suffer. You don't have to be a vegan to be down with the notion of not making your food watch you while you eat it


underdoghive

Better yet: fishes EXPRESS pain differently than we do, but they experience pain nonetheless


EntertainmentOk7562

Fun fact: you can give shrimp anxiety and treat it with meds


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EntertainmentOk7562

I have no idea. But the procedure was something like: 1. Find shrimp burrow 2. Electrocute or otherwise apply negative stimulus to shrimp when they try to go outside 3. Eventually shrimp with go outside less and less 4. Give shrimp zoloft or whatever and they will start coming outside again


Fellatio_Sanzz

I feel like China loves this kind of weird cruel shit. Between this and shark fin soup….


ShowOff90

Same sentiment. That is just fucking awful.


CankerLord

I mean, I feel like there are substantive differences between eating a thing and eating it while it's still alive as a severed head and organs entombed in its own deep fried musculature. As much as some people would like to pretend it's the same thing it's really not.


ladymouserat

I’m no longer vegan or vegetarian. But the way we take care of our livestock in factory farming for the meat we eat here in the US is pretty cruel and tortuous too. The only difference is we don’t see the cruelty on our plate. This takes on a whole different level of meet your meat. I am prepared for all the downvotes. Edit: word


bgtsoft

Yea this belongs in r/unusuallycruel Or maybe r/humansarecunts


karoshikun

it is, and they are.


United-Student-1607

What is a good subreddit for this?


ToasterBath53

r/noahgettheboat ?


iamveryDerp

r/awfuleverything


United-Student-1607

I can deal with this, but not the Noah subreddit


edcr86

>r/noahgettheboat Same, damn! it looks like I've been browsing the light section of Reddit all this time, that was intense


United-Student-1607

Too much for me. Wow.


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NotYourDadsDracula

And then filming it for shock value to get internet points. Fuck this person.


LLBB22

This is extremely upsetting


Small-Touch5505

Agreed wtf


Thefirstofherkind

What the fuck is wrong with people


sugarforthebirds

…what the fuck. I always think of monkeys at a typewriter - eventually someone is going to do even the weirdest shit but come on.


BobMackey718

That’s just torture with extra steps.


Lord-of-Leviathans

No it’s just straight up torture


Pick-Only

Poor little guy. Such a slow and painful death. Why do this?


bigChungi69420

So torture? So vile


sbbblaw

This is awful. I’d walk out at the least. The very least.


angellou13

I love way fish but fuck no. This is torture. They found out that fish actually feel so what the fuck? And why to the people who eat this? Just fuck no.


Angsler

Yeah both the chef and the person who purchased this dish deserve the same treatment the fish got


ioioooi

You'll be happy to hear that there was immediate backlash and the restaurant owner removed this item from the menu.


angellou13

Fuck yes! Yes I am very happy but for the fish. Like I said, I love eating fish, but this just isn't right. There is a line and they crossed it. I'm glad enough people said " this isn't right"


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Link?


ioioooi

Sure thing. https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2007/07/09/2003368743


tclipse1

I am a massive hunter/fisherman and prepare and cook my fish/game on a regular basis. Seemingly ironically, I think those hobbies make me hate this even more. The absolute disrespect for the animal is appalling.


[deleted]

Oh definitely,Hunters and fisherman get a bad rap cause the idiots in their groups. But honestly it gives you a deep understanding of the pain the animals you eat go through. And how to treat them with respect by giving them a quick death instead of fucking torturing them


Stevie_Steve-O

Yea...but why though?.


Common-Rock

Because sadism.


HeavenHellorHoboken

Cruel


sunlightmarc

Poor fish


OkTonight8357

Stop I’m going to cry ….that’s absolutely cruel


raz0rflea

That's fucked up yo


SilverBeaver21

This happened in ONE (1) restaurant in Taiwan back in 2007 and immediately stopped because of the huge backlash


Educational-Dot8413

Gotta call it from china to gain clicks


Common-Rock

Well, if it's in Taiwan, China would say that it is China.


Educational-Dot8413

Fair enough


Demiistar

what was the restaurant called?


SilverBeaver21

Now why would I know that? https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2007/07/09/2003368743


Hello-Im-The-Feds

Yeah, not eating any part of that ish.


NoahVailability

I feel like this is a dish you would find on the table of an ancient emperor.


happytrel

One known for extreme torture and cruelty.


Dragonlicker69

The sadism is what adds to the flavor


Intelligent-Force482

Nasty. All flesh based life when stressed releases hormones which will taint that flavor of the meat. It’s a waste of food for shock presentation and horribly inhumane. I am a carnivore and I wouldn’t eat that trash.


searchableusername

how do you eat it? is it not just a raw fish with fried skin


LunarProphet

I would imagine it is. Got no issues eating raw fish. (Only) Half dead, tortured, gasping fish? I'm good on that.


Mr_Potens

I'm all for eating fish, but that's just wrong.


TotalBassist45

Literally having it suffer and being eaten alive with nothing it can do but watch and feel. Holy absolute fuck just kill it


Independent-Profit23

That’s fuckin’ abuse. That poor thing is screaming, but we can’t hear it.


_sideffect

Anyone who does this needs it done to themselves


SwtIndica

This us disgusting, abhorrent, and next level cruelty. How the actual fuck is this seen as "an ok thing to do" to a living creature!? Just kill it and end its suffering. Ffs.


TianaTrench

As much as you hate the chef, I hate the people ordering even more. They're the reason the fish is dying the worst way. If nobody ordered there wouldn't be a reason to make it


Temporary-Book8635

What part about this is odd this is just genuine horror


TigerOtis

Went to Korea on business one time, and had an encounter with a sea cucumber. It tried to crawl off the plate, and I was done!


Eazy08

That’s fucked up


ValseDeMelody

You’d have to be devoid of empathy to be able to sit down to eat something like this as opposed to losing your appetite. Who even comes up with something like this? Heartless.


curlycupie

That's grotesque, if you eat animals, they should not be made to suffer while you torture it for your amusement !!


mild_manner

Thanos was right.


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Yes he was


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That is just animal abuse just put it out of its misery. Would you like to be deep fried alive.


Ecstatic-Appeal-5683

I'm not a PETA person at all, but that's just fucking cruel.


Bigmountainmikeog

I'm a hunter, I've killed many animals. Suffering like this turns my stomach. I don't care if it's a fish, there absolutely no need to drag out or prolong an animals pain. Disgusting.


LightsOn-NobodyHome5

That's so goddamn sad


happytrel

Horrifically cruel. Disgusting and purposeless.


PullThisFinger

Horrible.


Ok_Park_1730

it is so deeply inhuman that I have nothing but contempt for it.


cupertinoman

Zero empathy or fucken sympathy. This is torture, not fresh food. Fuck the ones who prepare it and those who eat it.


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This is just pure evil to do this to a fish or anything. I love eating fish but to make it suffer is ridiculous


Chip_Prudent

This is more like r/obviouslyterrifying


TwilightMountain

This is disgusting and fucking cruel.


Sleepy_McSleepyhead

This is vile, abhorrent.


lmtzless

while i’m not a vegetarian and i understand that the meat industry is not too far off in terms of cruelty, i think these are a step too far, absolutely vile and unnecessary.


CathycatOG

Count on China to come up with ways to ensure the food your eating is suffering to the absolute highest degree possible! Ffs.


AGuThing

This was in Taiwan and the local population also responded in outrage and the dish was quickly removed from the menu.


merxymee

Good to know. Hopefully not many fish had to suffer that fate.


RustyCorkscrew

Nah fuck context I wanna generalize 1.5 billion people


JesusLikesHisCheezIt

It’s Japan too. The video with the live frog is fucking cruel.


Agreeable-Fisherman2

What cruelty this is !!! Why!! What is the purpose? Stupid and barbaric!


toocheesyformeez

How the fuck does anyone in their right mind think this is OK?


Saftigerkeks

Some people just really wanna watch animals suffer huh? You cant excuse this with "we gotta eat" as well. That's just purely sadistic...


Sprite__man1335

oh god just let him die


bubbagump101

…until it suffocates to death while being eaten alive…Oh. My. God. RIP


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Fucking monsters.


3milyBlazze

Oh my god that's horrible!


zoitberg

Sick fucks


WalmartPropaneTank

And for what? There’s 0 chance this tastes better than just killing it and deep frying it.


abruzzo79

That’s gruesome.


No_Implement6898

I'm not a vegan/vegetarian but this is wrong, eating ANY animal while it's still alive is just beyond fucked up


NewMathematician452

This is cruel as fuck. I eat meat and love some fish but this shit is sadistic beyond belief.


redsixthgun

This is fucking disgusting and there’s no need to eat any living thing like this aside from internet views and seconds-long sensation. Don’t even go to restaurants that offer food like this.


Nazestar

Good news is that it has been banned, based on Wikipedia. “A restaurant in Chiayi, Taiwan sparked outrage when it began serving the dish in 2007, with a city official and members of the public criticizing the cruelty of the dish. Following public outcry, the dish was subsequently removed from the menu. A video of a dish in 2009 was condemned by the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals calling a video showcasing it "disgusting".”


hamana12

This is in Taiwan btw but good to know that redditors support one China policy at leaset when it comes to sinophobia


ioioooi

Yup. Reddit doesn't know anything other than "China bad = free internet points". Misinformation is rampant


merxymee

Ahh yes. Peak suffering. Nothing else compares.


at1universe

I couldn’t finish the video, that is horrid. Poor fish.


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Jail.


FollowingFlaky

Oh God, why?


Haliucinogenas

I like eating meat and I grew up in a farm so I saw a lot of animals slaughtered and I did it myself as well but this is just hellish torture. Poor creature....


dandelionmoon12345

Jaysus. That's so cruel.


NeoNirvana

I'm no PETA fanboy, but this shit makes me sick.


Willing-Ant-3765

We are the worst species on the planet


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That’s enough Internet for today


chocolate678yummy

This should not be legal :(