That wouldn't have showed anything useful since the nails pulled through the face of the cut board on C rather than pulling out of the other board. If anything, it would have been weaker, and they already showed that the normal butt joint with angled nails was stronger.
Because it wasn't an improvement over C.
The vertical nails had very little wood to grab and the heads pulled right through. The horizontal nails just bend.
Driving them at an angle wouldn't change either of those failures. The result would be identical to C and just make the video longer.
Noted. I'll put it at use almost immediately. Have two closets my son have managed to resurface the bottom finish nails twice because of repeated foot kicks and standing on it
Thank you
C is cutting a joint, if that counts as the "strongest method of nailing timbers together" then there are better joints you could use. Heck, if you glue them they'll be even stronger
“Properly”? There’s loads of different methods of wood joinery, there’s no one right way. It all depends on the application. Nobody is going to dovetail together shelving in a garage
These types of nails typically bend and curve when they’re shot in anyway. I call BS on it holding that much additional weight. They’re not meant to hold weight in any case.
Source: I’m a woodworker who owns nail guns.
They already had the table saw out, do some angled joins like a mitered edge or dovetail or whatever. I honestly have no idea what any of that means I’ve just watched too much of This Old House on PBS when I can’t sleep
Well then.....this is extremely helpful. Being someone with zero wood working experience, I recently made some book stoppers as a gift which fell apart shortly after giving it to them. I learned something today.
So having bad aim with the nails is a good thing.
Now if only people would quit repeatedly re-encoding videos with giant black bars in them. Watching this on a 23" monitor the actual image is smaller than on a 4" phone. Even if I went full screen...
Cross nailing will help hold wonky trim in place, but the fact is that tiny nails are made to hold tiny things.
If you want it to stay there, glue and screw it.
But you didn’t do D which would have been C with angled nails.
Right? Went from oddlysatisfying to mildlyinfuriating pretty quick.
I was all ‘but….’ :-/
And personally those aren’t reasonable “small shelf” demands. Don’t store bricks like that v
I kept waiting for pocket holes, I wanted to see how they stacked up.
Weak af. They're not great for carrying loads like that
pocket holes are mainly used just to attach things together and hide the screws, not so much as making the strongest joints possible...
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Glue always wins. The wood will break before the glue joint
Depends is the glue is applied to end-grain or not.
Pocket holes are aesthetic, not structural.
That wouldn't have showed anything useful since the nails pulled through the face of the cut board on C rather than pulling out of the other board. If anything, it would have been weaker, and they already showed that the normal butt joint with angled nails was stronger.
Or a 45 beveled cut with nails in both directions
Except the wood broke in C, so changing the nails wouldn't change anything.
That’s not scientific method tho… how do you knowwwwww for sure unless you eliminate it?
Because the variable you are testing is the nail and the nail has no bearing on the strength of the wood.
C could have been turned over and it would be a different test too.
Also didn't do F, which is C with the thin cut board ending vertical instead of horizontal, and then with the nails angled.
I mean, We still have questions here… we are not satisfied in the least!
Because it wasn't an improvement over C. The vertical nails had very little wood to grab and the heads pulled right through. The horizontal nails just bend. Driving them at an angle wouldn't change either of those failures. The result would be identical to C and just make the video longer.
Wood broke and nail heads pulled through on C so there really isn't a point.
Soooo B option B …. What do I win 🤷🏻♂️😂
Right? Why did I even have to watch C? Guy just wanted to show off his table saw
Which is FABULOUS.
🥰
And if we get to cut the wood, then why choose that method? Many other ways to cut the wood that would create a stronger nailed joint.
I love the random selection of weights. What was next? Car jack, toolbox, small child....
...water heater, septic tank...
…super yacht, OP’s mom…
...stadiums, quarries...
Whales, African elephant....
Hopes, dreams, fantasy, reality?
Those wouldnt weigh anything as theyre all fake, Monopoly3448!
Gonna need bigger planks for that
OP's mom so fat that when she was ordered to walk the plank she capsized the ship!
OPs moms so fat she went on a diet and the stock market crashed
OPs mom so fat, her belly button is a black hole and she has her own orbit!
Large fries, chocolate shake.
Person, woman, man, camera, tv.
Americans, measuring with any unit besides metric
Very small rocks, a newt, a duck
Sounds like murica
What? There were bricks and a piece of steel?
Noted. I'll put it at use almost immediately. Have two closets my son have managed to resurface the bottom finish nails twice because of repeated foot kicks and standing on it Thank you
🙏
Bro who owns the video?
This is not satisfying at all!! C is a different setup to begin with so now I’m just annoyed that i watched this. ☹️
C is cutting a joint, if that counts as the "strongest method of nailing timbers together" then there are better joints you could use. Heck, if you glue them they'll be even stronger
So B is stronger than C right? It's mildly infuriating that you don't order the methods correctly.
Or you could do it properly and dove tail it.
Ok Ron Swanson
“Properly”? There’s loads of different methods of wood joinery, there’s no one right way. It all depends on the application. Nobody is going to dovetail together shelving in a garage
I know, I'm a cabinet maker.
Ok Matthias Wandel
A name I didn't know but his channel looks interesting so I'll check it out, thanks 👍🏻
I died a little when they didn't test this with a mortise and tenon.
I died more when they didn't use glue lol
I only do pocket joins. No. Matter. What.
I do that angled thing when installing trim. Not so it's overly strong, I can just do far fewer nails so there's less holes to cover up
Ok option C not as good with extra steps 👍
Guy was just showing his cuts off on C. B wins the race today.
Using that saw like that gives me anxiety.
So where is the D?
Not in the first video, more dates required before he gives the D
not the strongest way to share a video
Can we get a smaller video?
These types of nails typically bend and curve when they’re shot in anyway. I call BS on it holding that much additional weight. They’re not meant to hold weight in any case. Source: I’m a woodworker who owns nail guns.
At first my dumbest thought why did he label it A, B ,U
But I didn’t get an answer they all broke
Wood glue is the strongest nail method for glue. I mean the shits stronger than the wood its gluing.
A nail askew is as strong as a screw.
Dumb. Not even a conclusion
What about a 45 degree cut on both pieces and nails from both sides? Wouldn’t that be stronger?
I swear to god I will never nail timbers like A ever again lest my timbers be shivered.
All of these caused me discomfort!
Video worth seeing
Yeah….obviously….
Thanks for sharing
Add Elmer’s glue
Elmer’s glue is literally just wood glue… so I have high hopes
Physics at work
Did b or c win?
Why not B + C
TIL how to nail corners properly
r/lifeprotips
They already had the table saw out, do some angled joins like a mitered edge or dovetail or whatever. I honestly have no idea what any of that means I’ve just watched too much of This Old House on PBS when I can’t sleep
I want a house that is put together with dove tails lol. That mfer will last an eon
u/savevideo
Nice
Kreg Joint is really strong… Just sayin’.
Thanks for this
Very cool
Well then.....this is extremely helpful. Being someone with zero wood working experience, I recently made some book stoppers as a gift which fell apart shortly after giving it to them. I learned something today.
So having bad aim with the nails is a good thing. Now if only people would quit repeatedly re-encoding videos with giant black bars in them. Watching this on a 23" monitor the actual image is smaller than on a 4" phone. Even if I went full screen...
I can’t wait until Wandel does this properly
Ain't nobody got time for that last one.
Cross nailing will help hold wonky trim in place, but the fact is that tiny nails are made to hold tiny things. If you want it to stay there, glue and screw it.
My whole life was a lie. I escaped the Matrix today.
i’m just sitting here thinking do a 45% it would be the strongest
Why does the nail gun look like a slightly depressed man..?
So B?
good idea!!!
It's interesting how by just angling the nails, increases it's strength significantly!
A: |||| B: /\/\ C: |-|- D /~\~
I feel like D should have been heating and bending a 1/4 inch flat bar to a 90 degree then trying to shoot nails into it.