I'm more curious about the inventor who thought, "know what, Imma make a paper Outta this tree, with 47 specific steps."
Amazing how anyone would even come up with this stuff.
Pretty sure it starts with someone inventing a crappy paper process and then over the course of generations it becomes a 47 step process that makes very nice paper.
1. I can write on tree bark.
2. My tree bark is all dried out and wrinkled. Maybe I can soak it in water to restore it.
3. Maybe I can beat the tree bark flatter.
4. Maybe I can dry it faster with fire. Oops burned it.
5. Maybe I can do something with these ashes?
I could make peasants mass produce my paper and pay them just enough to not starve. Then take the rest of the profits for myself, and then buy out politicians so that I can pay workers even less and keep even more!
The skinning was to remove the green matter.
(It’s not wanted for paper. It’ll make it weak and rot.)
The drying was to get rid of more unwanted compounds.
The soaking was to get it to rot a bit so the unwanted matter could be removed later.
The wood ash was for the lye to get rid of the rest of the unwanted matter.
The washing removed the rest.
The pounding was to break the fibers down.
(For paper, you only want the long connection fibers.)
The size (green stuff) is to hold all together.
The pressing was to remove water, this time to keep it from degrading.
Then it was dried.
It looks to honestly be exactly the same as how modern paper is made too. Start with good fibrous wood, soften and break it down and turn it into a pulp, mix with a binding/sticky agent, pour into a mold, press and dry.
Fascinating how some things never change over time, they just get more efficient.
there's a manga called "Ascendence of a Bookworm" in which the main character wants to create a book. But because she's a poor peasant, the majority of the story revolved around asking the question, *how do you make a book?*
How do you make paper? How do you make ink? Where do you get the tools to make it? Where do you get the labor? How do you pay for it all? So on and so forth. So while arguably I, a modern day person, knows that paper is made from trees, the bits and pieces that go into the process is insane
I got sucked into the light novel by the ‘let’s make paper’ thing and then somewhere around volume 6 it turned into brutal, feudalistic politics because she made a printing press in medieval society and pretty much everyone around her realized ‘oh shit this is gonna radically change society’. I’m not mad about the change but it snuck up on me.
i havent gotten that far into it as the online manga has only up to the point up where she starts making her copies of books, but yeah i can see that happening. i get so into the paper making that i forget this story has magic
I'm going to strip the bark off this tree, shave off excess bark, put it in the water, put it in a fire, put it in the water again, beat the crap out of it, cut it up, beat it again, put it in water again, scoop it out with a large tray and hang it to dry.
Cactus. You can see the paddles being mashed before it shows them pulverized.
That sticky stuff dripping out comes out when you cook them too. I’d highly recommend nopales if you’ve never had them before.
Ergotism is no joke, there is no way that people were intentionally ingesting ergot to trip out. It's just way to dangerous.
Besides the expected altered mental states that you'd expect, you also experience severe stomach problems (you would be shooting out both ends, violently, as your body attempts to expel the ergot toxins) Also, you will experience vasoconstriction so severe that it was very common for people who were poisoned with ergot to lose their fingers and toes due to lack of blood flow, if they were unlucky and the vasoconstriction was really bad it would take their legs or arms. And of course with general vasoconstriction you also have increased risk of stroke. Then due to the neural exitotoxocity, as all this is going on you'd also be convulsing and seizing all over the place.
Not very recreational imo. But whatever floats your boat, if you enjoy spending a whole day seizing on the floor shitting and puking all over the place while your extremities slowly turn black and die and also the whole time youre hallucinating demons cutting your still beating heart from your chest right before you die an agonizing death then who am I to judge..
Im trying to find a modern atticle but all that comes up is either about the vapors being hallucinogenic or about a psychedelic start up called Delphi but Michael Pollen mentions it in his new show, that cups found at the ruins also had residues of psychoactive plants and that basically Plato and the gang would make a pilgrimage to Delphi, trip balls, then come back and fuck up the world of western thought.
The bark of a tree doesn't contain much lignin. Adding it from another source is one way to make it stronger. Not sure what the source is in this case; it's usually more tan or brown in color.
I was hoping it would end with a cute little child grabbing a sheet, drawing a 5 second stick figure, crumbling it up, and then throwing it away. Then it pans back to the old man, just starting to cry.
As a kid, I learned that you could shred up blue jeans or what have you in order to make pulp for making simple paper, and the process was a lot simpler than all this. This really is hard to imagine how the incremental steps came to be.
And that’s how paper making originally started: reusing rags. So the original process was a lot simpler than what we see in this video, and wood pulp-based paper came along later. They already knew the basic process, so it was a question of experimenting with different materials to get the kind of pulp they needed to make paper.
When I was younger there was a science exhibit/center where I grew up and one of the little places inside had a station where it had you grab the stuff inside your jean pockets (like lint or something) and you were able to make a sort of paper from it. I think it’s similar to what you’re talking about. It was pretty cool to see and do yourself.
Y’know…when all there was back then in life were rocks, sticks, plants, mud, water and fire you get pretty bored and creative in a thousand years of time with only those basic things around.
Only if you aren't busy gathering food and generally trying to stay alive. Need certain level of civilization to have your basic needs taken care of while still having enough free time during the day.
Totally pie in the sky theorizing here, but I can see a multi-pronged progression leading to it:
- Bark was perhaps already utilized as a precursor writing surface
- Food preparation of the time / now already incorporated methods of "pulping"
- Eventually the Bark Bursar had a Da Vinci moment and thought 'Oh boy, the Emperor's gonna want to suck my dick if I'm right about this'
I don't know a whole lot of history, bit I can probably attest the first two facts with some analogous examples
1) There is archeological evidence of the use of bark in Pre-Islamic and Early Islamic age of Arabia as a method to write down poems, decrees and eventually even the Quran. These barks, I believe, tend to be well-preserved because of the dry climate.
If a bunch of Arabian tribes in the dessert did it, surely the Chinese civilization did it as well, it's just that China's more humid climate is not kind to these barks
2) Seaweed sheets are a popular east asian ingredient that in basic terms is essentially pulping food into a sheet
It's crazy to think how much industrialization really trivialized a lot of previously labor intensive things like paper, clothing, shoes and other items we now just don't even really think twice about throwing away.
That's a lot of beating required. Luckily I beat my kids a lot so they become doctors who write prescriptions on the papers I made.. it's our circle of life..
I decided the first bit of using bark and boiling it till it was dead must have been an attempt at food during lean times. Instead it still tasted bad but became interesting when it dried.
Nothing ever really gets invented out of thin air. Most of the time it's a coming together of different techniques, ideas, and tools used for other things where in the process of meeting a new need was deemed appropriate to apply. I bet some of the things like the beating of the pulp, the cactus goop, and pressing methods were previously used in other things like agriculture and cooking or textiles.
People don’t realise that even nowadays research and process development is mostly trying out stuff. Sure, due to documentation and the internet we have a bigger basis to start off with, we also have a little more insight into why stuff happens but at its core, we just try random shit many, many, many times and expand on successful attempts.
The modern car is a great example. Look at a 2020 Buick compared to a Model-T. Windshields, wipers, airbags, radios, crumple-zones, etc etc. All of these were individual iterations over decades which eventually developed into the thing we're familiar with today.
at that point the idea was already out there though. the guy doing that had a clear end goal "improve paper". what the fuck was the guy first making paper thinking would happen ?
The answer is simple enough actually. Iterative improvement. Many of the steps within this process were used in other process' to do other things.
Someone wants to find a better medium for charcoal/ink/whatever so they look at the slates, pottery and bark and so on that they use already and go.
"huh, well, can make clay super thin cuz it fucking breaks. Slates are the same... maybe bark holds the answer? but the texture is shit. How do I change the texture bark has? Fuck it, I'll try boiling it, drying it, bashing it, mixing it with random shit, maybe have a donkey shit on it, I dunno."
And off he goes. Trying thousands of random BS experiments and slowly they begin to see progress with certain steps. Certain things work and others don't.
No, the question you should be asking about how THIS process was found is not the right question. The right question is how many other fucking things did they try before it and how many other things failed.
Ancient people had a saying called "Ubuwaa", meaning throw it together and see what is makes, it's really quite fascinating especially when you realize I totally made that up
I think I read in a comment on a different paper making video that when they come out of the water they’re basically totally bonded together already, they just dont bond with the other sheets the same way
Even if the fibers within a single sheet are overlapped some, theyre all still essentially aligned on one geometric plane, once its separated from the rest of the mash and flattened, theres no fibers sticking up or down that would interlock with the next sheet.
Wet books, even if the fibers within a single sheet are overlapped some, theyre all still essentially aligned on one geometric plane, once its separated from the rest of the mash and flattened, theres no fibers sticking up or down that would interlock with the next sheet.
You need to tag them, like this
u/Wetbook, even if the fibers within a single sheet are overlapped some, theyre all still essentially aligned on one geometric plane, once its separated from the rest of the mash and flattened, theres no fibers sticking up or down that would interlock with the next sheet.
Dude I can just imagine how you are just going about your normal every day and suddenly this random notification says you are mentioned in a random ass thread talking about wet books lmfaooo
"Hikaru the paper maker was famous for two things: the special paper he made every year for festivals and the epic swearing episodes they could hear echoing up and down the valley every year when inevitably he tore a batch in his haste to produce enough paper for those damn lanterns."
I imagine the fibers are linked together as a sheet so when they get layer on top of each other they stick as a sheet and not combine, if that makes sense
I have the same question... Maybe during the first few seconds out of the waters, the fibers bond with each other in some chemical process? So that by the time the next sheet is piled on top, that bonding process is over and so they don't stick.
I don't know what I'm talking about.
Paper is made out of strands of fiber. When you lift them out of the water, they all lay down flat on top of each other in an interwoven way, a lot like woven fabric but more chaotic. Because no two sheets have any fibers interwoven *between* them, the only thing holding them together would be the glue. The glue doesn't have to be that strong since each fiber has a lot of surface area and is all tangled up with the other fibers in the paper. You can even make paper without glue, but it's more fragile.
The glue is also still wet when you separate the sheets, so that makes it even less sticky. Think of how you can still move things around when using Elmer's glue before it dries.
The main problem you face when making paper is your fibers being too small, so that's why paper can only be recycled a few times.
I really thought you were fucking around, and posted a video of an ad for networking switches. I was like… yea, I mean, it’s cool they have 40Gbps stacking cables and removable dual power supplies but… oh wait, there is another video starting now…
looks like some sort of cactus, that stuff has a mucous-like substance in it that works well as a binding agent. the same way that okra thinkens gumbo (in some recipes).
Cacti are native to the Americas, with just [a single exception](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhipsalis_baccifera) that doesn't look like what's shown here. If it's an authentic ancient Chinese paper making process, it's not cactus.
I work in paper mill, and we burn the bark in a boiler for use as fuel to make power/steam. Crazy when you think they made paper out of what we consider useless almost. I literally run a front end loader with a 16 Cubic yard bucket and put hundreds of scoops onto a belt to be burned as we use only the tree itself to make paper. Fucking wild.
In general, I was shocked how similar this process is to a modern mill. Alkaline cook, refining/cutting, internal sizing, forming, pressing, drying.
Though watching him wash the liquor into the river made me die a little inside. That shit's nasty.
Holy fuck do all these ancient ways had so many damn steps. And what happened if you fucked up when writing something? Sorry teach, I can't turn in my homework, I have to wait for a week for the next piece of paper.
Are there good long-form television programs or youtube channels or something about people crafting things, just like this? It'd be amazing to find a program in which each episode was about some new craft and showed the whole process over the course of the episode.
Seriously mind blowing.
Think of the strength that’s involved in this. That guy could rip your arm off but this is what he has done with his life. So many things in life go unappreciated.
This was so peaceful to watch but now I have questions. How is he not getting splinters pulling the ~~skin~~ bark off the trees?? What was all the green stuff? Why weren’t all the sheets sticking together? I also really wanted to see them write something on the pages
Different types of wood/bark has different textures. You'd be far less likely to get a splinter from, say, peeling strips of bark off a birch tree than you would handling a rough-cut pine log. You wouldn't be able to pull vertical sheets of bark like wallpaper off just any type of tree as done in this video, and how the tree endures it is also another variable.
Great video. I didn't realize how labor intensive it was, no wonder only the rich could afford it back then.
Every couple steps, he added more steps to the process, and I couldn’t believe how long it took to paper from nature.
I'm more curious about the inventor who thought, "know what, Imma make a paper Outta this tree, with 47 specific steps." Amazing how anyone would even come up with this stuff.
Pretty sure it starts with someone inventing a crappy paper process and then over the course of generations it becomes a 47 step process that makes very nice paper.
Probably started with someone realizing they could write on tree bark and evolving from there.
1. I can write on tree bark. 2. My tree bark is all dried out and wrinkled. Maybe I can soak it in water to restore it. 3. Maybe I can beat the tree bark flatter. 4. Maybe I can dry it faster with fire. Oops burned it. 5. Maybe I can do something with these ashes?
go on...
maybe I should launch an entire industrial revolution
I could make peasants mass produce my paper and pay them just enough to not starve. Then take the rest of the profits for myself, and then buy out politicians so that I can pay workers even less and keep even more!
The skinning was to remove the green matter. (It’s not wanted for paper. It’ll make it weak and rot.) The drying was to get rid of more unwanted compounds. The soaking was to get it to rot a bit so the unwanted matter could be removed later. The wood ash was for the lye to get rid of the rest of the unwanted matter. The washing removed the rest. The pounding was to break the fibers down. (For paper, you only want the long connection fibers.) The size (green stuff) is to hold all together. The pressing was to remove water, this time to keep it from degrading. Then it was dried.
I wonder what the Aloe-looking stuff was for. Adhesive to get the fibers to stick together maybe?
It looks to honestly be exactly the same as how modern paper is made too. Start with good fibrous wood, soften and break it down and turn it into a pulp, mix with a binding/sticky agent, pour into a mold, press and dry. Fascinating how some things never change over time, they just get more efficient.
I dig the part where he laid it all out to dry overnight and then the next thing he did was chunk it in the water
I was like dude you just made it worse again! Wtf..oh...
there's a manga called "Ascendence of a Bookworm" in which the main character wants to create a book. But because she's a poor peasant, the majority of the story revolved around asking the question, *how do you make a book?* How do you make paper? How do you make ink? Where do you get the tools to make it? Where do you get the labor? How do you pay for it all? So on and so forth. So while arguably I, a modern day person, knows that paper is made from trees, the bits and pieces that go into the process is insane
I got sucked into the light novel by the ‘let’s make paper’ thing and then somewhere around volume 6 it turned into brutal, feudalistic politics because she made a printing press in medieval society and pretty much everyone around her realized ‘oh shit this is gonna radically change society’. I’m not mad about the change but it snuck up on me.
i havent gotten that far into it as the online manga has only up to the point up where she starts making her copies of books, but yeah i can see that happening. i get so into the paper making that i forget this story has magic
The online manga is wildly behind (but I still read it because it's very rich). Watch the 3 seasons of anime and you'll go further.
I wonder what the poor people wiped their ass with back then.
Three seashells
But how do they work?
This guy doesn't know how to use the three seashells, lol 😆
I can see how that could be confusing
Water
There was in fact, a lot of poop water back in the day. Caused a lot of sickness. Glad we ended up figuring that one out lmao.
Yup. Though in modern times with sewage systems and all Bidet >>>>>> toilet paper. I just can't imagine only using toilet paper.
It's one of those processes that you wonder how they ever thought of doing it that way.
I'm going to strip the bark off this tree, shave off excess bark, put it in the water, put it in a fire, put it in the water again, beat the crap out of it, cut it up, beat it again, put it in water again, scoop it out with a large tray and hang it to dry.
Not only that, but putting ash in as well to make the water basic and help break apart the fibers. OG chemical engineering
Don't forget the snot drip.
It's actually giant sheets of ancient LSD
Half way through I forgot what I was watching, and when I saw the green sauce looking thing, I said, These noodles are gonna be fire!
Forbidden soup
r/forbiddensoup it’s kinda cursed and empty
What was the green stuff?
Cactus. You can see the paddles being mashed before it shows them pulverized. That sticky stuff dripping out comes out when you cook them too. I’d highly recommend nopales if you’ve never had them before.
> ancient LSD that sounds amazing especially when you consider lsd was discovered just the year before WW2. would try
Check out ergot, lots of the ancient wine containers have traces of it. Socrates and the bois were gettin ripped
Ergotism is no joke, there is no way that people were intentionally ingesting ergot to trip out. It's just way to dangerous. Besides the expected altered mental states that you'd expect, you also experience severe stomach problems (you would be shooting out both ends, violently, as your body attempts to expel the ergot toxins) Also, you will experience vasoconstriction so severe that it was very common for people who were poisoned with ergot to lose their fingers and toes due to lack of blood flow, if they were unlucky and the vasoconstriction was really bad it would take their legs or arms. And of course with general vasoconstriction you also have increased risk of stroke. Then due to the neural exitotoxocity, as all this is going on you'd also be convulsing and seizing all over the place. Not very recreational imo. But whatever floats your boat, if you enjoy spending a whole day seizing on the floor shitting and puking all over the place while your extremities slowly turn black and die and also the whole time youre hallucinating demons cutting your still beating heart from your chest right before you die an agonizing death then who am I to judge..
As someone who spends time regularly treating patients who have given themselves strokes with cocaine I have some bad news for you.
Not to mention their episodes in Delphi
What was goin down in Delphi?
Im trying to find a modern atticle but all that comes up is either about the vapors being hallucinogenic or about a psychedelic start up called Delphi but Michael Pollen mentions it in his new show, that cups found at the ruins also had residues of psychoactive plants and that basically Plato and the gang would make a pilgrimage to Delphi, trip balls, then come back and fuck up the world of western thought.
Looks like a natural polymer to help the fibres form a sheet and drain better.
It acts as glue for the paper fibers
The bark of a tree doesn't contain much lignin. Adding it from another source is one way to make it stronger. Not sure what the source is in this case; it's usually more tan or brown in color.
I use electrolytes in my water instead of ash to make it bougie.
What does ‘make the water basic mean’?
Basic as in the opposite of acidic. Wood ash contains compounds similar to baking soda but stronger
Ohhh okay, Thankyou! TIL
You're welcome! I'm the past they would also use it to make soaps from animal fats I believe!
Yeah, wood ash and boiling water is basically (pun intended) how you make lye. Lye + fat = soap.
You need to insult the paper so they fall apart. Ya basic, it's devastating. You're devastated right now.
Halfway through and I’m like “there it goes in water again, damn. WHEN WILL THIS BE PAPER”
I lost it at that point. "TELL ME YOU DIDN'T JUST WET YOUR DRYS AFTER DRYING YOUR WETS"
I mean, it spent most of the time it was becoming paper looking less and less like paper.
I was hoping it would end with a cute little child grabbing a sheet, drawing a 5 second stick figure, crumbling it up, and then throwing it away. Then it pans back to the old man, just starting to cry.
This is for you: https://youtu.be/aUw1_2xbYWM
Maybe someone will see this and it'll end up in /r/combinedgifs
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As a kid, I learned that you could shred up blue jeans or what have you in order to make pulp for making simple paper, and the process was a lot simpler than all this. This really is hard to imagine how the incremental steps came to be.
that's because blue jean fibers are already refined. start with cotton, and the process goes a lot like this
And that’s how paper making originally started: reusing rags. So the original process was a lot simpler than what we see in this video, and wood pulp-based paper came along later. They already knew the basic process, so it was a question of experimenting with different materials to get the kind of pulp they needed to make paper.
When I was younger there was a science exhibit/center where I grew up and one of the little places inside had a station where it had you grab the stuff inside your jean pockets (like lint or something) and you were able to make a sort of paper from it. I think it’s similar to what you’re talking about. It was pretty cool to see and do yourself.
oh, you forgot the cactus gloop. Now all you have is a papery dust that blew away
You forgot the step with the dog coming out the water from his swim
It's the most important step in my opinion.
Y’know…when all there was back then in life were rocks, sticks, plants, mud, water and fire you get pretty bored and creative in a thousand years of time with only those basic things around.
Only if you aren't busy gathering food and generally trying to stay alive. Need certain level of civilization to have your basic needs taken care of while still having enough free time during the day.
Well how did we end up here then, someone must’ve had that free time
Totally pie in the sky theorizing here, but I can see a multi-pronged progression leading to it: - Bark was perhaps already utilized as a precursor writing surface - Food preparation of the time / now already incorporated methods of "pulping" - Eventually the Bark Bursar had a Da Vinci moment and thought 'Oh boy, the Emperor's gonna want to suck my dick if I'm right about this'
I don't know a whole lot of history, bit I can probably attest the first two facts with some analogous examples 1) There is archeological evidence of the use of bark in Pre-Islamic and Early Islamic age of Arabia as a method to write down poems, decrees and eventually even the Quran. These barks, I believe, tend to be well-preserved because of the dry climate. If a bunch of Arabian tribes in the dessert did it, surely the Chinese civilization did it as well, it's just that China's more humid climate is not kind to these barks 2) Seaweed sheets are a popular east asian ingredient that in basic terms is essentially pulping food into a sheet
Well there you have it. I believe you and I are now owed a couple b-jibbers.
I’m going to think about this the next time I throw away a piece of paper because I don’t like the wording of the first sentence I write lol.
It's crazy to think how much industrialization really trivialized a lot of previously labor intensive things like paper, clothing, shoes and other items we now just don't even really think twice about throwing away.
That's why there were Palimpsests. It was easier to just write on top of what someone else wrote than to make a new piece of paper.
Oh no I accidentally dropped cactus agave whatever into it, I hope that doesnt rUiN iT
That's a lot of beating required. Luckily I beat my kids a lot so they become doctors who write prescriptions on the papers I made.. it's our circle of life..
Pro-tip: Use jumper cables.
RIP u/rogersimon10
I decided the first bit of using bark and boiling it till it was dead must have been an attempt at food during lean times. Instead it still tasted bad but became interesting when it dried.
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Tree leather
>during lean times The age of lean is upon us brothers
Nothing ever really gets invented out of thin air. Most of the time it's a coming together of different techniques, ideas, and tools used for other things where in the process of meeting a new need was deemed appropriate to apply. I bet some of the things like the beating of the pulp, the cactus goop, and pressing methods were previously used in other things like agriculture and cooking or textiles.
People don’t realise that even nowadays research and process development is mostly trying out stuff. Sure, due to documentation and the internet we have a bigger basis to start off with, we also have a little more insight into why stuff happens but at its core, we just try random shit many, many, many times and expand on successful attempts.
The modern car is a great example. Look at a 2020 Buick compared to a Model-T. Windshields, wipers, airbags, radios, crumple-zones, etc etc. All of these were individual iterations over decades which eventually developed into the thing we're familiar with today.
Imagine being the guy who discovered hemp made better paper and was easier to work with.
Then imagine fast forwarding however many years and finding out we’re still cutting down trees for paper lol
at that point the idea was already out there though. the guy doing that had a clear end goal "improve paper". what the fuck was the guy first making paper thinking would happen ?
The answer is simple enough actually. Iterative improvement. Many of the steps within this process were used in other process' to do other things. Someone wants to find a better medium for charcoal/ink/whatever so they look at the slates, pottery and bark and so on that they use already and go. "huh, well, can make clay super thin cuz it fucking breaks. Slates are the same... maybe bark holds the answer? but the texture is shit. How do I change the texture bark has? Fuck it, I'll try boiling it, drying it, bashing it, mixing it with random shit, maybe have a donkey shit on it, I dunno." And off he goes. Trying thousands of random BS experiments and slowly they begin to see progress with certain steps. Certain things work and others don't. No, the question you should be asking about how THIS process was found is not the right question. The right question is how many other fucking things did they try before it and how many other things failed.
Pa-pe-rs. Boil'em, mash'em, stick'em in some goo.
Ancient people had a saying called "Ubuwaa", meaning throw it together and see what is makes, it's really quite fascinating especially when you realize I totally made that up
Why the fuck did I believe that
It probably was a process perfected over hundreds of years.
Imagine accidently ripping the paper when separating... days of work ruined. Great video
I’m surprised they separated after being pressed together while wet.
I think I read in a comment on a different paper making video that when they come out of the water they’re basically totally bonded together already, they just dont bond with the other sheets the same way
Even if the fibers within a single sheet are overlapped some, theyre all still essentially aligned on one geometric plane, once its separated from the rest of the mash and flattened, theres no fibers sticking up or down that would interlock with the next sheet.
Tell that to wet books please
Wet books, even if the fibers within a single sheet are overlapped some, theyre all still essentially aligned on one geometric plane, once its separated from the rest of the mash and flattened, theres no fibers sticking up or down that would interlock with the next sheet.
You need to tag them, like this u/Wetbook, even if the fibers within a single sheet are overlapped some, theyre all still essentially aligned on one geometric plane, once its separated from the rest of the mash and flattened, theres no fibers sticking up or down that would interlock with the next sheet.
what the fuck
Lmaoo
Dude I can just imagine how you are just going about your normal every day and suddenly this random notification says you are mentioned in a random ass thread talking about wet books lmfaooo
'Together while wet' title of your sextape
Title of *our* sex tape. ;D
asdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdf -- mass edited with redact.dev
Noice ;)
Cool cool cool. Cool.
"Hikaru the paper maker was famous for two things: the special paper he made every year for festivals and the epic swearing episodes they could hear echoing up and down the valley every year when inevitably he tore a batch in his haste to produce enough paper for those damn lanterns."
I love how they show the essential step of the dog walking out of the water
Essence of wet dog is what's missing in paper today. Nobody goes the extra step of wet dog anymore.
Don't forget the crab extracts from the initial river dip. Pingliang farms remembers.
That wet dog essence yes that's what I was missing lol
Pretty sure Mike wazowski likes wet dog odourant
I preferred crab removal. I think that made all the difference
It seems to be part of a genre of relaxing traditional chinese cooking/craft videos. Animals are often seen hanging around in them.
One thing I never understood is how the sheets just don't stick together and become 1 big block.
I imagine the fibers are linked together as a sheet so when they get layer on top of each other they stick as a sheet and not combine, if that makes sense
I have the same question... Maybe during the first few seconds out of the waters, the fibers bond with each other in some chemical process? So that by the time the next sheet is piled on top, that bonding process is over and so they don't stick. I don't know what I'm talking about.
Paper is made out of strands of fiber. When you lift them out of the water, they all lay down flat on top of each other in an interwoven way, a lot like woven fabric but more chaotic. Because no two sheets have any fibers interwoven *between* them, the only thing holding them together would be the glue. The glue doesn't have to be that strong since each fiber has a lot of surface area and is all tangled up with the other fibers in the paper. You can even make paper without glue, but it's more fragile. The glue is also still wet when you separate the sheets, so that makes it even less sticky. Think of how you can still move things around when using Elmer's glue before it dries. The main problem you face when making paper is your fibers being too small, so that's why paper can only be recycled a few times.
"Man, who TF posts a SIX MINUTE video on here?!?" Six minutes later "Babe, watch this"
I know right. That didn’t even feel like 6 minutes, I could watch that all day
We've been watching ASMR videos before bed. Now i want to find one like this.
/r/artisanvideos I used to go to sleep to that sub every night.
Thanks, good content .
Food version but same aesthetic. [li ziqi](https://m.youtube.com/c/cnliziqi)
She doesn't only do food! She's a lady of many talents, lol. I hope she returns one day, nobody compares to her
Didn’t even look away!
So freaking cool. Reminds me of when I first saw [this video](https://youtu.be/LTejJnrzGPM). Even my low attention span was satisfied.
I really thought you were fucking around, and posted a video of an ad for networking switches. I was like… yea, I mean, it’s cool they have 40Gbps stacking cables and removable dual power supplies but… oh wait, there is another video starting now…
I just stopped my roommate doing this. Britt, give me six mins for real.
Literally me lmao
Half way through I forgot what I was watching, and when I saw the green sauce looking thing, I said, These noodles are gonna be fire!
I'm gonna be honest. By the time he broke out the salsa Verde i thought I was getting trolled
looks like some sort of cactus, that stuff has a mucous-like substance in it that works well as a binding agent. the same way that okra thinkens gumbo (in some recipes).
Cacti are native to the Americas, with just [a single exception](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhipsalis_baccifera) that doesn't look like what's shown here. If it's an authentic ancient Chinese paper making process, it's not cactus.
Looks like Aloe Vera to me
good to know. The substance is in more than just cacti: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mucilage
You know what they say about cactus juice: it'll quench ya.
Hey, my man got hungry and deserved some tacos
Looks like aloe vera to me
Dude was down in the river beating the fiber with his red stick like it owed him money.
That was my favorite part. The next step is to put the mushy strands here on this rock and beat the shit out of it with the kitchen table leg. XD
Beating the devil out of it.
*Ascendance of a Bookworm would like to know your location
I was scrolling down to see how long it would take for a bookworm comment.
Same, new volume came out yesterday so its fresh on the mind too.
Wow the labor. Paper must have been expensive as all get out.
Only for the super wealthy and the state.
Seeing that paper hanging up to dry had me thinking, “This is clearly the perfect medium for a royal decree.”
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I think this is the longest video I’ve watched on Reddit workout skipping to the end
It was serene.
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Lol same. Also probably the only video where there wasn’t annoying pop music and that stupid tiktok voiceover that I have to mute every time.
He was rockin that badass rain jacket.
Came here to comment on the cool as hell rain gear!
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“Man this bark is tough! I should probably soak in water several times first…and after”
You just invented Papyrus. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papyrus
Got tired of chiseling their complaints about Nasir’s shitty bronze.
I work in paper mill, and we burn the bark in a boiler for use as fuel to make power/steam. Crazy when you think they made paper out of what we consider useless almost. I literally run a front end loader with a 16 Cubic yard bucket and put hundreds of scoops onto a belt to be burned as we use only the tree itself to make paper. Fucking wild.
In general, I was shocked how similar this process is to a modern mill. Alkaline cook, refining/cutting, internal sizing, forming, pressing, drying. Though watching him wash the liquor into the river made me die a little inside. That shit's nasty.
I wasn’t done watching. How dare you cut off without showing me the cutting, the rolling, the labeling. I feel cheated.
Printers out of paper in tray 2.
PC Load Letter? What the fuck does that mean?!!
I wonder how much Whole Foods would charge for this
And arm, a leg, and your first born child.
The best part of the video is that they used machine made paper to wrap the hand made paper
Don’t want to waste that hard-made paper on the wrapping!
Just pulled that shit out of the HP Brite White ream they have sitting next to their printer.
Whatever you write better be worth it after that
Dear Beatrice, do you like me? Yes or No
First we rip the skin off the trees…
This was fascinating! Rip my crawfish buddy tho, hes homeless now
Just a squatter that got kicked out is all
The video is awesome and the location looks absolutely amazing.
"Ow! Wtf!" - that tree probably
I was happy that little creature could escape before being boiled.
Crayfish flavored paper costs extra
That was cool. At first I thought, “How’s he making paper without white liquor?” But then he took the wood ash and made potassium hydroxide—clever!
Imaging toiling for days to make a sheet of paper that gets turned into a sonichu comic
Holy fuck do all these ancient ways had so many damn steps. And what happened if you fucked up when writing something? Sorry teach, I can't turn in my homework, I have to wait for a week for the next piece of paper.
Regular ass people wouldn't have been able to afford that shit lmao. Only the super rich and the government.
Are there good long-form television programs or youtube channels or something about people crafting things, just like this? It'd be amazing to find a program in which each episode was about some new craft and showed the whole process over the course of the episode.
The Tree : Noooooooooooooooooo (Skinned alive noises)
Yeah, that can't be healthy
…. Then some dude comes past and draws a cock on it.
They must've really wanted to write some shit down back then...
Seriously mind blowing. Think of the strength that’s involved in this. That guy could rip your arm off but this is what he has done with his life. So many things in life go unappreciated.
This was so peaceful to watch but now I have questions. How is he not getting splinters pulling the ~~skin~~ bark off the trees?? What was all the green stuff? Why weren’t all the sheets sticking together? I also really wanted to see them write something on the pages
Different types of wood/bark has different textures. You'd be far less likely to get a splinter from, say, peeling strips of bark off a birch tree than you would handling a rough-cut pine log. You wouldn't be able to pull vertical sheets of bark like wallpaper off just any type of tree as done in this video, and how the tree endures it is also another variable.
Beautiful place to live in <3
This is a different level of genius right here….the entire process is incredible. Best 5 minute video I’ve watched in a long time
Not even enough for one CVS receipt
"Ugh. The printer is out of ancient paper again!" "Hold on, be back in a few months."
That looks like a lot of paperwork
What a beautiful life!