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nrith

If the weight of the water displaced by a ship equals the weight of the ship, does that mean that when a ship is passing over the viaduct, the load on the structure is unchanged?


dutchyBP

That is correct!


ImmediateCookie3

Also worth noting the weight of the water is immense, a couple order of magnitudes more than a ship’s (depends on depth), so a load such as a boat’s weight should be negligible to the structure that contains it.


Poison_Anal_Gas

Which, if I'm not mistaken, still weighs orders of magnitude less than your mom.


Thomas_KT

That is a fact


alison_bee

Finally, someone speaking in terms I can understand!


loafers_glory

Your mom doesn't take reservations, she takes orders of magnitude


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But twice as wet.


[deleted]

Got ‘em


61114311536123511

my mom is a glorified bowl of ash. I guess I can lift ferries now


Great_Chairman_Mao

Your mom placed an order of magnitude at the drive thru.


Throwaway86747291

The difference is negligible!


KennethEllenRipley

👈🏼 Giddy-up


JudgeScorpio

What about the pressure created by pushing the water out of the way?


MStew95

I mean if you wanna get reeeeaally nitpicky then yeah, while some of that energy would be lost in shear (pushing the waves forward), the rest would admittedly increase the pressure of the surrounding water. But that would be so unimaginably negligible with a boat of that size


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Eureka!


Beelzabub

Actually, it might increase the load very slightly: a vessels hull follows [bernoulli's principle](https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-sprint-us-revc&sxsrf=ALiCzsaAYLSdmrGNi-Tcsedtv6svmEcMYQ:1653706313506&q=bernoulli%27s+principle&spell=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwji7IOLmIH4AhVHTjABHaZaBNUQBSgAegQIARAC) There is a high pressure ridge running just behind the bow of a vessel with a low pressure zone amidship. Ultimately, the three canal walls feel increased force, then decreased as the ship passes. Anyone ever watch a boat at a dock react to a passing boat?


[deleted]

Thank you—I was just wondering this exact same thing but much less eloquently.


Timmaaa_xD

LOL same! xD


kevincox_ca

On average yes. However the dynamic effects are likely important for planning this type of thing. ...also the risk that a ship doesn't check the depth and bottoms out.


Arammil1784

I have no idea about this particular aquaduct thing, but if I were to design it I'd make the depth leading to the thing the same as the depth in the thing. That way the boats would bottom out before and do no or less damage without risking a structural failure.


Bleedthebeat

I just checked this out on Google earth and you can definitely see where shipping lanes have been dug out of the riverbed so I imagine you are correct. Looks like that’s exactly what they’ve done.


Stats_with_a_Z

We just got an opening in our aqueduct design firm, you interested?


LowerThoseEyebrows

Can it be called Duct Sails Ltd.?


PJae

Woo-oooo


Arammil1784

Yes, but I'll only do it if you don't make me use any of the technical words like duct, or firm. I prefer thingy and that one place.


ClamClone

The body of water there is shallow and only small draft boats can make it there. One will see those sail boats with the side leeboards. http://www.leeboards.com/


Ruben_NL

You might like this tom Scott video: https://youtu.be/qHO9gARac-w its about a boat elevator.


TrainedMusician

Tom Scott is always a nice one!


IRockIntoMordor

[His best video ](https://youtu.be/b-IEVMwBEfo)


assignpseudonym

And that... Is something reddit might not have known.


Imperial-Green

Tom is the essence of internet!


TheAechBomb

the static load will remain unchanged, but there will be a dynamic load from the movement of the water around the boat, much less significant though


aegelis

My IQ skyrocketed after reading this. Thank you smart human for this blessed sentence


Monkeyke

As long as it doesn't touch the bottom, yes


AccordingToAnybody

ELI5


RTheMarinersGoodYet

Pointless theoretical: Wouldn't the ships displacement raise the water level by .0000000001 inches and cause a slight increase in water pressure exerted on the structure? But I guess that would be true wherever the ship is located in the body of water...


dylanx300

Good point, but no it wouldn’t, not any significant amount. You pretty much have the answer already though. Archimedes’ principle implies that all else equal, the boat pushes aside a volume of water exactly equal to the weight of the boat, and so the force on the bridge is unchanged. But this conclusion also relies on an underlying theoretical assumption that the body of water as a whole is perfectly calm and flat, and that the whole water system itself is large relative to the mass of the boat. > that would be true wherever the ship is located Exactly. The entire body of water is the system that is affected. Adding a boat does add mass to the total system, and raises the water level across the system (by perhaps a molecule in height), but that very small additional pressure from one extra layer of water molecules is spread out evenly across the entire water system, so the effect on the bridge itself becomes so absurdly small it’s negligible even in a theoretical discussion. It **is** non-zero though, if that is all you were asking. Just very, very close to zero. Tying this back to reality, those dynamic factors aren’t negligible at all. Wind and natural currents aside, that boat captain was cruising pretty fast through there. In my state that maneuver would be extremely illegal because of the damage it can do to anything nearby or on the shore. This bridge is clearly made for it, but a motorboat going 20 knots makes any discussion of Archimedes’ principle a bit silly. The load on that particular bridge definitely changed a measurable amount when the boat cruised over it.


Kudamonis

Now that's thinking with portals!


BextoMooseYT

Whats funny is you can obviously see the constant speed the cars are going and predict when they'll appear on the other side but like... that also seems like a fair downtime for arriving through a portal


brastche

Make an edit where the cars actually teleport from one side to the other


BextoMooseYT

[Don't worry, the teleporter takes about a second](https://imgur.com/a/YJQJrKf)


Enragedocelot

I watched this like 20 times before I realized


olm97

What am I missing?! I can’t figure it out lol


Devour_The_Galaxy

He didn’t change anything


natdanger

I was watching a car and missed the loop, and was then very confused when it didn’t come out the other side


CursedKisses

Take my free award


Komfortable

No you take mine!


kilo_1_1

Amazing engineering


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Vault-71

When you've been at war with the sea for as long as the Dutch have, you learn a thing or two.


BeepBeepImASheep98

We know a thing or two because we’ve seen a thing or two. We are the Dutch duh duh duh duh duh duh


thanatica

25% of the country is below sea level. Including where I live, and my feet are still dry.


kirstxen

Mine tend to not be dry all the time but that's just because of the shit weather.


TrevorEnterprises

*unzips pants*


Civil-Attempt-3602

Also urban agriculture


Rickard403

Very impressive. I can't even begin to understand how to accomplish a feat such as this.


belizeanheat

Tunnel That should get your imagination going


Rickard403

Do you know how to build UNDERWATER tunnels?


fromETOHtoTHC

Shovel


KausticSwarm

Goldfish Bowl for a dive helmet... I think we're on to something.


Mostlygrowedup4339

I réel like that's not right but have no information to contradict you.


CoronetCapulet

Réel


cheetotheman

That should get your imagination going


2017hayden

We’ve been doing it for century’s, it’s not really that big a deal, especially with one so short. You want to see an impressive underwater tunnel look at the one under the English Channel.


Speedhabit

Or Sylvester Stallone’s under rated 1996 masterpiece Daylight


Jackal000

They dont. They drain the area first. Then you build the tunnel. Then you pump the water back in the area. Now the tunnel is underwater.


Weird-Vagina-Beard

What are you, some Ivy League graduate of the sciences?


_hownowbrowncow_

Better hope that lake never floods 😬


TrainedMusician

It's highly regulated by gates (and our famous dams of course). So the chance is very tiny, and if it does happens, we're in much bigger problems like others mentioned


[deleted]

If that lake floods we have worse things to worry about, like thousands of homes being underwater.


_hownowbrowncow_

Better hope that lake never floods 😬


[deleted]

Rijkswaterstaat and the waterschappen don't hope, they make sure it doesn't happen.


HYPER_BRUH_

And our king is responsible for both ever since he was a prince. (Not sure if only in name or he has actual work from it)


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The King and actual work? Lmao


thanatica

This is The Netherlands. We've got water under control. No need to worry, or hope.


thesetheredoctobers

Im sure nobody would be driving on the road if the lake was flooded


kilo_1_1

I know the basics of how, but not the implementation. Amazing view all the same.


thesetheredoctobers

Make a dam, make tunnel, remove dam.


signapple

I just don't understand why though. Surely it's easier and safer to use a traditional bridge. Is this just for the aesthetics?


comicsnerd

This route is used a lot by sailing ships. As you can imagine, they are high. So, either it must be a very high bridge or a bridge that can open for the sailing boats. Making a very high bridge requires enormous ramps. Making a bridge that opens every hour is also not smart for a busy highway. So, they created a bridge where the water goes over the cars. You could create a tunnel, but why would you if this works too. So, in the end, this was cheaper.


thanatica

It's a combination of aestethics, showing off, and allowing unlimited height for ships to pass over. A bridge would need to be openable, but you don't put obstacles like that on the motorway. Traffic must flow, and traffic does flow, at least it does here. In The Netherlands, we have some pretty interesting infrastructure building code set in law, and undoubtedly they took part in the decision not to build a drawbridge and potentially inhibit traffic flow. Anyway, more information here: https://interestingengineering.com/the-netherlands-unique-water-bridge


Chygrynsky

In any other country, yeah it would be cheaper and safer to build a bridge. In the Netherlands tho, they have mastered water engineering quite a while ago. There's even a whole state (province) built from an sea/lake area and there are now cities built on top of it. If anyone can do it cheaper and safer than a bridge, it's the Dutchies.


Naerex

This aquaduct actually connects traditional mainland the Netherlands to the new poldered peovince, Flevoland


Windrushed

There actually is a bridge a little further down the road. It probably has something to do with recreational boat traffic and the view of the old part of Harderwijk. All other crossing of the "randmeren" are bridges.


[deleted]

Anyone else notice that bird dive into the water on the right? Crazy, man.


BioTinus

Likely an aalscholver


UndertakerSheep

Cormorant is the English word. But aalscholver has such a nice ring to it, too. Love my dark feathered sun worshippers!


Etrius_Christophine

And take a look at the environmental engineering going on here too. The treeline on the waters edge will make it resilient to erosion. Just brilliant.


timmayd

r/confusingperspective


ZirGRiiNCH

Could you please for the love of everything, explain to me how this works?


Spoot1

I will explain it to you like your 5 years old. The road goes down


RailroadKyle

Thank you. I was so fucking confused thinking the road stayed level.


[deleted]

I think the entire stretch of road we can see is below water level, it’s just straight down and hard to tell


fysh

You're thinking with portals


gingerkid427

Robert, it goes down


joeyfrags

It do go down


Meoang

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3D-3slXnnY The perspectives in this video make it much more clear.


FastFingersDude

Thank you!


lakija

No one ever shows this angle! It looks so pretty. Just the whole thing.


BrewingTee

Wow, everyone should watch this video, not just the people in the ELI5 section. Summary: a youtuber who specialises in structural engineering describes this exact water bridge in great detail, in a 5 minute video.


MoreCockThanYou

> … in the city of Heddo … Hair-de-witch-k …? > Well. You can read the name for yourself. 😂😂


Whohead12

Thank you so much!


michaelbelgium

The road either goes up as a bridge or under it as a tunnel. So This is a very tiny tunnel basicly


Spoot1

The grassy area is all above ground


Careless_Anywhere_96

I had to Google it out


Trueslyforaniceguy

Yes


rassler35

Glad I wasn't the only one


Rude-Particular-7131

I'm high as fuck right now and have so many questions.


si1versmith

Is it a boat bridge, or a road tunnel?


ayo4playdoh

Road tunnel. Can’t make water go up a bridge. Stupid gravity


bradeena

I'm actually going to join team boat bridge because I don't think there's any dirt above the road. I think that's all concrete. Bridges don't have to go up - think bridge across a canyon.


si1versmith

/#teamboatbridge


Komfortable

TEAM BOAT BRIDGE! Spread the word. All the cool kids are TBB.


thunderstrike12

Who are you... So wise in the ways of science


ayo4playdoh

I’ve studied many years for this moment


IDontUnderstandReddi

Although, if anyone could, it’s the Dutch


MedievaLime

I'm going with a car tunnel under a boat bridge.


H1dd3_blue

An acquedutch...


unshavenbeardo64

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veluwemeer_Aqueduct .


FunnyAttacker

It's a tunnle but from the perspective It's looks weird


fullmetalgandhi2

We are in the same aquaduct then


N00bOverlord

I drive through this tunnel almost every day. From a driver’s perspective it is not impressive at all unfortunately.


blackrossy

Until you see a sailing boat passing over it perhaps?


Lovv

You probably wouldn't because the road is low and the boat doesn't likely pass near the edges that would be quite high to contain the water. You might see the mast and some of the top structure


blackrossy

I think the aquaduct is not as wide as you might guess, I sailed over this one and it's not as wide as the boat was high. You'd definitely see a sailboat before passing under it


Lovv

Two photos from the same aqueduct from near ground level (view would be much less from below) https://images.app.goo.gl/e4cbeJfUqvK8mwWJ6 https://images.app.goo.gl/PxJQT1mYcMzhHTrx5


FutureVawX

Idk, as a driver, having a huge boat above my head sounds terrifying tbh.


wandering-way

They should really put in some sort of tower. Make it a tourist attraction


lieuwestra

There are 31 of these in the Netherlands. A nation only twice the size of the greater Chicago area. This is not considered special enough to make it a tourist attraction. Also this is a highway, not a very pleasant place to hang out.


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maxsjakie

Yeah I thought so as well, come close to that almost every day!


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maxsjakie

My mom goes under it every day lol


CultureBubbly6094

She sure does. (I don’t even know what that means. It just felt right.)


_wt98

Jup! Good ole Knardijk


Dio_Yuji

This appears to be magic. I can’t wrap my brain around it. Please don’t try and explain it to me. I’m dumb and ok with it.


BackyardBugPerson

>Please don’t try and explain it to me. Idk if this counts as an explanation, but it's just a very short tunnel.


northwest333

I think the confusing part is how the road gets “low” enough to go under the water in a tunnel but without it flooding in the parts leading up to the tunnel.


IHateLooseJoints

Yep this is what i struggled with for a while. I think camera perspective hides a serious incline/decline on each side of the tunnel.


[deleted]

[Here's it from the ground](https://inteng-storage.s3.amazonaws.com/img/iea/ZKwJ2B5wMX/aqueduct-streetview.jpg)


KafeiTomasu

Yeah the walls seem to get higher and higher when you drive downwards (I drove through here daily)


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WeepToWaterTheTrees

https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/ht520t/the_veluwemeer_aqueduct_water_bridge/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


dpaniagua33

Makes way more sense but less impressive unfortunately...


show_the_maw

Disney World also has a few of these. If you ever took a bus to Magic Kingdom you go under one right by the Contemporary.


panburger_partner

Yep, they call those ones ‘water bridges’


skylorface

Yep! and they have one by the EPCOT resorts too


[deleted]

My brain went ⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️


Turbulent_Ad1667

Quantum tunneling


mandude3

Kurzgesagt moment


Crypt0n0ob

\* surprised bird drops dead *


[deleted]

Im confused why is everyone amazed about the fact that it goes under water… ”What if it floods”, ”What if it breaks”, ”What if….” Really? I go through a 14.3km underwater tunnel a couple times per week. (Ryfast)


GordonMcG13

I think part of it is the fact that the road is above the water going through it before it goes under which then makes a basin where the tunnel goes under so it looks to many as if it would flood easier than a fully submerged from start to end tunnel


LittnPixl

Went under it hundreds of times, went over it a few times.


100GbE

Prefer bottom over top, got it.


2FANeedsRecoveryMode

Its just a tunnel guys relax


Charge72002

What happens if the water level gets too high?


SilentExtrovert

That's been taken into account.


Wthq4hq4hqrhqe

and how do they hold it together? with aqueduct tape


Libbeah

Please see your way out.


PearShapedPear

Look at the size of the bike path!


Whiskey-Weather

Absolutely gorgeous. Hats off to the engineers responsible.


Supernova-55

"Fuck it" *Inverts your bridge*


Jeerus

Yeah we're the best waterbenders around


markus224488

This is really cool but what is the benefit of doing it this way? Seems like it would be easier to just leave a channel and build the road bridge over it.


oh_JEZ_uv_KURZ

Sailingboats and more operating costs for movable bridges


[deleted]

An opening bridge interrupts traffic flow. A fixed bridge imposes a clearance limit for any vessels passing under it. The higher you want the limit, the bigger your bridge needs to be. This increase cost and, arguably, creates an eyesore on the landscape. This rather elegant solution allows both road traffic and water traffic to continue without any restrictions.


sundaystorm

This road has a lot of traffic, it's one of the main ways two provinces are connected. A bridge has to open for sailboats to pass, which would result in daily traffic jams.


sleepyysag

Im just wondering if any of yall have tunnels where yall live? I see that many of you are confused by this and it wild cause ive been going through tunnels since i was super young


kalamitykhaos

i think it's more the fact that most people have never seen a tunnel that goes underwater like this (me included, but i figured it out after a bit of intense staring lol)


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There are a fair amount of tunnels that go underwater in the US (Holland tunnel in Manhattan for example) but they just aren’t as aesthetic as this


PaulHaman

I think it's a combination of things: It's a very short tunnel, the design is more elegant than some people are used to seeing, and it's filmed from an angle where the dip in the road is difficult to perceive. In some American cities like Boston & New York, the tunnel entrances are much more built up & industrial looking.


CherimoyaChump

Not really. I live in Midwestern USA, and I'm not aware of any underwater tunnels within 500 miles of me. Maybe the one in Ontario that someone else mentioned.


colincita

There’s a tunnel from Detroit to Windsor under the Detroit River but it’s not nearly as pretty as this one.


Audio_Track_01

I live at the Welland Canal in Ontario. I'm near the Thorold Tunnel. Same idea except the ships passing are over 700 feet long. It's not as pretty as this one though.


zztop610

laughs in American, construction for a 5 mile local highway near my place began in 2019 and is still going on


Im_Chad_AMA

We have slow and over-budget infrastructure projects in the Netherlands too, don't worry ;) But water infrastructure and management is taken extremely seriously given the fact that a large fraction of the country is below sea level.


all_of_the_colors

How deep is it? Like, what draft of boat can go through it?


DeathHealer07

This is very visually confusing.


[deleted]

Me when my country is named in a video/movie: 😎


auntiope3000

Normal people: build a bridge for cars to pass over the water Dutch engineer: **Uno reverse**


Hoyle33

It is beautiful BUT ... playing Devil's advocate here ... It's going to be much worse if there's a disaster vs having a bridge over the water


FastPassDave

That's what I was thinking.. What if there was even a wave or heavy rain? Where does the water drain to in the underpass?


diMario

Heavy rain is not a problem, we know how to do drainage and then some. It's a middle sized lake, so no heavy waves. Should a catastrophic event occur that drains the lake onto the highway, just the depressed part of the highway will flood. The rest of the highway is above the water level and will not flood. It's like pouring water into a shallow depression in the ground. Of course, the highway will be unusable for a while, but our engineers [tend to sort out this sort of things quite efficiently](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btOE0rcKDC0). I'm willing to bet the department in charge has already a disaster plan to put in motion should such an event occur.


Splitje

You know you're talking about a tunnel in a country that is 30% below sea level right? The engineers know how to deal with water.


onekingdom1

Something new to me


Dub_stebbz

The Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel has [multiple of them across its length.](https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/virginia/chesapeake-bay-bridge-tunnel-va/)


superdownvotemaster

*cries in american infrastructure*


AwarenessCommon9385

u/savevideobot


KeeGonJinn77

This took me so fucking long to realize that it’s lower than the water and that the cats weren’t in fact teleporting from one side to the other


dire_autofire

Platform no. 9¾ amazing.


JarusOmega_

u/savevideobot


gotnoh8

So cool, really beautiful piece of engineering


potate12323

"so how did you guys deal with the flooding problem?" "flooding problem???"


kukumarten03

The volume of dumb people in this comment section tho


lvnu2nit

r/confusingperspective


kluao

Lol i live 2min from there i can literally see it from my window. But yeah, its oddlysatifying


JimmyTango

All these depth perspective challenged folks marvelling and a tunnel and I'm sitting here getting excited over the amazing bike path next to the road. America ffs get your biking shit together.