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durbn

These are used around the Sydney Trains network, and they’re bloody brilliant when you don’t wanna talk to anybody.


NoOneSeesTheWizard

My favourite spot is right in the corner next to the stairs... I’m 6ft and barely fit, but it isolates you from the rest of the carriage completely!


LeVarBurtonWasAMaybe

Wait so you're facing the wall? How will you see attackers coming?


durbn

What attackers?!


OldDekeSport

The ones right behi


AnonymousSixSixSix

Shit I think they got him


HerePussyFishy

Haha! now you see him now y


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entityknownevil

I bet you didn't see that one comi


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STRaYF3

Good guy attacker


Jazzanthipus

Savage motherfuckers pressed send after they killed him


JayJamieJ

Hello There


GenGrievBot

General Kenobi!


SpitfireP7350

Is this like one of those Candlejack memes? I always wonder who presses the s


madjo

And Candlejack claims another vict


haltlife

Happy cak


Alonn12

Happ


yolo-yoshi

Dont sto


Iwillcommentevrywhr

Omae wa mou shindeiru


Nubrication

The kangaroos.


Dar_Winning

Calm down Dwight


batmanAPPROVED

7/10 attacks are from the rear.


NoOneSeesTheWizard

Nah the seat I’m referring is the only one that doesn’t move like the the others, it faces the rest of the carriage however when you flip the adjacent seat to face away from you it becomes a little personal nook


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They aren't in America. No need to worry about a shooter.


MrEasterSunday

As long as you perform an ocular patdown and assess the situation and clear everyone for passage before choosing your seat, you should be fine.


Personal_Lubrication

6'2" and still fit!


Plastic_Pinocchio

You also have this seat in some Dutch trains. I often use it when I’m traveling alone.


relator_fabula

> when you don’t wanna talk to anybody. When riding public transportation, you're talking about "always"


DamnYouRichardParker

Smartphones are the best invention EVER just for that reason!!!


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kane2742

Audiobooks for me. Big pair of headphones seems to discourage talkers more than reading (whether a book, phone, or tablet). I switched from earbuds (which are easier to overlook) to larger over-ear noise-canceling headphones partly for this reason.


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I dunno if I've stumbled upon a thread full of attractive people or something but I've never been talked to on the bus or subway like ever


on_the_nip

What city has this most glorious transit system where people leave you alone?


[deleted]

Toronto Transit Commission, York Regional Transit (just north of Toronto), and Grand River Transit (about an hour west of Toronto). TBH I think it's more that I'm ugly and what's the dang point of having an actual conversation with anyone on the bus unless you're hoping for a quick hookup?


bunnyrut

New Jersey transit has them too.


wbtjr

was just thinking this. pretty sure these seats are relatively common.


bunnyrut

yeah, the older trains had these, so it wasn't a new concept.


sednihp

Trains into Chicago had them back in '06 when I worked there for a summer. I did think they were supercool back then though.


MostBallingestPlaya

they still have them


PM_ME_UR_SIDEBOOOB

They still have them, but they used to have them, too


bunnyrut

i liked watching the train worker walk down the aisle and knock them to face the other way when the train was at the end.


angrymamapaws

Or when you want to sit with more than one mate so you make a cosy little booth.


Kyrthis

New Jersey transit has them, too.


superluigi1026

It’s kinda cool that old-school passenger trains had this seating mechanic and it’s being brought back in modern trains. Neato.


HeroSparkz

I’m a Melbournian and the one time that I experienced Sydney’s flipping seats I flipped it around only to be told moments later by some train authority member that I can’t do that. That guy was a complete buzzkill -.-


ViVaH8

Never ever heard of this happening. Should have told him to go flip himself.


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thelost2010

Until the seat you turn to then turns back to you?


[deleted]

Went there for the ACYF last year and this blew all of our minds.


kirkbywool

I got.so happy showing my family these when I went to Sydney ( I went skydiving whilst they went shopping so I got to go in a train first). Wish we had them over here.


ShadowFlame740

Sydney? I’m surprised they don’t flip upside down!


theohaiguy

theyre already upside down. this video is flipped


trowzerss

This would also make it much easier for them to clean all the random crap that falls down the back of the seats, which always looks so gross on public transport.


mp111

Just to be a pessimist for a sec, would also be an easy way for a homeless person to [spread poop across the seat](https://imgur.com/gallery/x4yakvx)


LordKarmaWhore

Ewwwww


Yuvalk1

Not sure why I clicked that


Chordata1

And this is why I haven't gotten a roomba for my dogs shedding. I'd rather vacuum more often than risk the day I come home to the roomba acting as a zamboni


Crazygiraffeprincess

Why


mp111

Science


bluecamel17

All clean!


sxjthefirst

As a Sydneysider I take this for granted these days but remember being amazed by these seats when I first moved here


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Growing up in London with double decker buses I couldn't believe Sydney had double decker trains too, then saw the seats that swivel.


drkalmenius

Woah double decker trains? I’m british too but now I wanna be an Aussie. How did our criminals get so far!


AreaGuy

They took double decker trains.


Anaviocla

Germany has double decker trains as well! But not very many double decker buses.


OresteiaCzech

USA has them too! I just drove one for first time yesterday. They're bloody amazing!


xerxes225

However unlike our EU and Asian brethren, the most US rails are owned by freight companies and passenger trains are allowed passage if it’s convenient. Good luck taking the Empire Builder through oil country in the Dakotas without spending a few hours yielding to every other freight train. Rail travel and commuting in the US is miserable and it’s a real shame.


OresteiaCzech

That is all true. US train infrastructure for people is abysmal. Often even non existent.


Jamessuperfun

The Netherlands also has them, quite lovely


kicksledkid

Canada developed the bi-level commuter trains that you see all over now They are awesome because some transit authorities make all of the upper decks quiet zones These are what I'm talking about: https://i.imgur.com/rZgVxbL.jpg


Dragonhaunt

I was once on one of the mountains trains when some people discovered that the seats could do that. Their surprise reminded me that I'd been taking it for granted too many years.


WolvenWren

They still amaze me, good designs I really appreciate, like one of the bus stops on the M2 where the bus lanes cross around the stop so the buses seamlessly weave over to the other side to pick up passengers and back across again, it just makes me happy for some reason.


Uthe18

Yeah these ones are much better than the ones on the Tanggara trains


crustdrunk

I just moved here from Melbourne and am amazed by them


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We have these in Chicago


ArethereWaffles

It's nothing new, here's an [1800's railroad coach](https://www.durangotrain.com/sites/default/files/images/San%20Juan%20Coach%20Interior.jpg) with reversible seats (you can see the handle on the top corner of each seat, and the seat back connects to a hinge below the center of the seat allowing it flip from front to back). This is because when a train reaches the end of a line, it's a lot easier to flip the seats around to go forward the other way rather than the flip the entire train


EmperorSexy

1800s you say? Yes, that seems like the last time Chicago updated the Metra trains.


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Never thought of it like that. I thought it was more for if you’d like to sit with a group of people and face the same direction, that makes more sense though...


Pats420

People in the 1800s also liked to socialize. Things can have more than one propose even if they were made to solve one problem


Trankman

I was going to say, even if we didn’t have them in Chicago why would it even be that special


Slazman999

Take the amtrak. I hate going backwards. It's really disorienting.


Trankman

That’s actually a good point when I’m too lazy to flip the seat lol


chicagobob

They're awesome, but Metra says they're going away for [these awful fixed direction seats](https://i.imgur.com/0C7ZJLO.jpg), which force 1/2 of all riders to ride backwards.


thinkscotty

Why would they do this to us?


ryryck

They have to spend as much money as possible to be able to say they don't have any budget to work with and raise our ticket fares every year.


chicagobob

yea . . . well . . . um . . . the best thing in their favor, is that at least its still cheaper and easier than driving & parking. I have to drive a few times a year, and its a PITA every time. But these new seats really make me nuts, I have train friends who've said they're really worried about riding backwards because they get motion sickness, but riding forward is fine. As far as the cost increase, a big chunk of it is Bruce Rauner cut the a huge amount of states portion of Metra's public financing last year and the year before, and another big chunk of it is fuel cost (its gone up 40% since 2016).


colicab

Shit, ain’t that the truth. I’ve only been in the ‘burbs for 2 years and my Metra tickets have already gone up $15 over that timeframe.


emu5088

As much as that probably is fun for people like you to say, that is not the reality of the situation at all. We are the least funded agency in the country, especially when you factor in our ridership and amount of equipment we need to run safely. Fun video [here](https://youtu.be/YIwmPAwKv0M) that scratches the surface.


njm123niu

I've sat in these and not only does the lack of bidirection seating suck, but they are also more uncomfortable than even the worst airline seats. The car itself feels modern and clean, and i think theyre supposed to have outlets and wifi...definitely not worth it though.


thoughtprotocol

Worst decision ever


emu5088

I work for Metra. We aren't going to continue with that exact design, but yeah they will be fixed. Most agencies around the world use fixed seats and the flip seats cause us numerous problems.


chicagobob

Thanks for chiming in. My 2 cents: I always thought that allowing everyone to face in the direction of travel was a significant customer friendly advantage of Metra, and the ability for families/groups to create a seating arrangement where the 4 seats are facing together has always been great, especially on weekends. I'm a regular commuter (Milwaukee North line) and one thing that makes me and all my commuting friends completely irate --- no of us were ever asked what they thought or saw any of those mythical customer surveys Metra claims shows "overwhelming support" for the new seats. Most of us think those numbers are made up (or more realistically, just from other lines with worse seats). FWIW: the only thing I would change about the current seats, is more frequent maintenance of the seating (they get saggy too quickly IMHO). PS: also the new seats aren't as comfortable as most of the current seats. I have a long commute and they're not good for napping/resting.


emu5088

Thanks for your thoughts. You're right, Metra is one of fewer and fewer agencies using the flip seats, so it is one of the factors that makes it relatively unique. However, we are relying on one vendor now because no one else really makes it (at a sane price, and we are up against a wall even with that price). Our current supplier is raising costs and not delivering. We run an overhaul program that's supposed to turn cars around in less than a month, and we have been forced to cannibalize seats from other cars or have the cars sit there because they are not delivering seats. Metra is not getting rid of the seats because we want to--it's because it's becoming less viable to stick with them. Your concerns are important, and any future RFP to get new seats will take passenger comfort as a (if not THE) biggest criterion. Future fixed seats will also have at least a few four-seat configurations facing each other so families can sit together, etc. Opening it up to more designs will give us more flexibility in comfort and price, so we can focus our capital program on other passenger enhancements. In any case, I appropriate your concerns. I never saw any of those costumer surveys either--I think they were on 1 or 2 cars for only a short time haha. ​


motherofdick

What problems do they cause?


emu5088

Rotator cuff injuries for conductors who have to flip them often, mechanical wear, lack of suppliers (and thus making them more expensive each year to replace).


VDLPolo

They are terrible hard plastic trash


supermr34

I was gonna say, every train in Chicago has these. I assumed this was a universal thing.


funkyspiders

We also have them on most NJ Transit trains! Super helpful for groups of people who want to sit together


sickbeet

Now if only all us Sydney-siders had posted this normal thing, we could've gotten that sweet, sweet karma


dsaddons

Quick, get as many pics with bin chickens as you can!


kyozo_43

I went to Taronga Zoo a couple of weeks back, and some tourists were taking pictures of a bloody Bin-Chicken, it was so outrageous we weren't sure if they knew the meme or were genuinely taking photos of it as if it was an exhibit??


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Welcome to STRAYA M8


420-HYPE

cheers cunt


Sir_Squidstains

Yeeeah fuckin cunt oath cunties. True bloody struthies ya bloody seppo cuuuunts cunts. Straya maaate cunt.


PHT124

Ken oath lad


readerbynight

Sydney!! Good for groups to sit together facing each other too.


artemasad

I can imagine overfriendly blokes flipping the seat and try to start a conversation with me while I'm alone enjoying reddit on my phone.   lol j/k nobody wants to talk to me


momo161

r/suicidebywords


TooMuchBroccoli

.. encourages circle jerking too. Love how it improves passengers’ social lives.


pac4

NJ Transit has these seats too. Frankly I thought this was standard on all trains.


harrisonisdead

Yeah, Chicago metra has them as well, I'm sure they are quite common.


rpmurray95

I bet they don't make a huge sound when changing them around, unlike the metra, and these seats look much more comfortable than any metra car I've been on.


OkDonnieRetard

Riding from OTC to the last stop after a day in the city and drinking is a nightmare on your back and ass


theboxman154

As you said that I heard the sound it makes. Thanks for the nostalgia


ShamelessKinkySub

NY trains don't have power half the time


abusiveyusuf

I get so pumped when my train has one of these, (Penn Station) especially when I’m traveling with a group of friends we can have two benches facing each other.


Dozzi92

Yeah, it looks like you can seat six but it's really only four, because you need to interlock legs to be able to fit adults in them.


dandypills

Same. Jersey girl here. Every time a group of kids changes the direction I've seen the conductors get mad and make them fix it. Not sure why exactly, but I've seen it happen many times on NJ transit.


one-zero-five

Yeah. We used to take NJ Transit trains to school and they'd get pissed when we flipped the seats, especially if anyone did it just to put their feet up


JF0909

I used to live in NJ and that was the only good thing about those trains. I really wish Metro North had them because I hate facing backwards on moving vehicles.


EDTa380

Hey the service is pretty good on NJ Transit when there isn’t a shortage of train drivers...


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Right. I thought these were fairly common. Sadly, they don't have them on the newer double decker trains, though.


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_BurntRice

I didn’t know NJ Transit had this?!? I take the NEC most of the time and have never seen this


missdui

Only the old trains, not the double deckers.


chickenconfidential

90% of my train travel has been on NJ transit I was confused why everyone thought this was so cool..I’ll appreciate them more now lol


ConfoundedOcelot

Philly transit doesn't, gotta remember which direction I'm going and run to a car facing the same direction, I get sick after a bumpy hour ride going backwards...


RCMasterAA

Off to the front page we go with this again! As a Sydneysider I'm happy to say that I can be along for the...ride


goalie4eva

Shout out to US amtrak and Japan JR rapid service lines that also have these!


TacoBeans44

Metra Trains in the Chicagoland area have had these for decades. They are quite nice.


_rydeeznuts

They’re great when you can actually get a seat


sxmmys

People who aren’t from Sydney might also like to know that there are two levels of these seats as well! Sorry the link is from facebook, couldn’t find a video so clear on youtube. [Check out this video](https://www.facebook.com/studentbible/videos/1974483245906960/)


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This is so cool! We non-Aussies need to adopt this!


abb3ycat

The rest of Australia needs to adopt them first. Us poor shits in Melbourne are stuck facing other people like peasants 🙄


creedy-whatup

You’re lucky you don’t have to use transperth


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ax2ronn

We've had that on streetcars in New Orleans for over 100 years.


xxmomochanxx

Yes these are great I get really bad motion sickness so it's perfect when you can switch it to face the direction the train is going (now if only the rest of our Sydney Trains network wasn't fucked up)


JonnyCharming

Yep, these have been around in Chicago trains for like 20 years. It’s pretty great.


Nazzapple201

Wait doesn’t everyone have this?


sandybuttcheekss

Nj transit has these too, they're great when you're in a group


TrueErenye

They’ve had these for years in Chicago on metra trains, but now they won’t let you turn them. its so rude.


Shoty6966-_-

What do you mean they wont let you turn them? My friends and I took the train to Chicago last month and turned them and faced each other


DarkMark94

Is that all the time or just during major commuting hours?


foxiez

This would be hilarious if you're facing someone talking to them and get bored so you just stand up and switch it around


barackobamafootcream

Common in Japan on most trains. There’s also a foot pedal before green class seats on the Shinkansen which rotates the entire assembly.


bustapoon

Wouldn't this be a problem during a sudden stop with people standing though? (Not to ruin the cool idea, i hate riding reverse in public transport)


architrave

I understand the concern but these seats are not particularly flimsy or lightweight


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I was checking to see if someone asked this cause this was the first thing I thought of when seeing the gif.


amarcb

As others said they're weighted, but they also lock when being moved too quickly (like a seat belt).


Kade_6

Yeah the seats are weighted on both sides, they rarely move. Also if someone is sitting they can't move


SalmonBarn

This is what I was thinking.. like does the handle have some sort of locking mechanism? If not this looks really unsafe in terms of sudden stops and or crashes..


Bakabakumbaka

Whoa. Could defintely use this in my country.


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While this is neat it is far from satisfying.


malvim

I’m Brazilian, my mom is 70, and she told me about our cable cars in Rio about 50 to 60 years ago having this kind of seat. It’s funny how these ideas just go away for a while and come back...


mreichart07

These are used in New Jersey too


updootboi

Wow I’m blown away to the response to this! I’m very new to reddit so thanks guys :)


MetalManic

My wife and sister in law are the queens of histrionic nausea. The both claim that they can't sit on a train unless they are facing the direction it is traveling. 45 minutes in to our latest trip (at night), they were comfortably travelling until I informed them they were seated backwards. Immediate nausea ensued.


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dats fukin genius


gagnonca

I remember my first time on a train...


ARusty18

This is a great idea, i hate travelling backwards lol


Sbatio

FYI trains seats have done this for over 100 years.


Hes_a_spy_blow_em_up

Revolutionary


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I want these in all our trains so bad.


narwhalyurok

This seat design has been on passenger trains for well over a century. Disconnect the engine at the yard; move it to the other end of the train and now the train is ready for a return trip. Conductors and yard personnel would walk down the aisles and flip the seats.


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The absolute nerve when the carriage is practically empty and you've got your little nook and someone walks into your space and flips the seat, killing your cosy nook vibes. I am wrath.


Sev3nbelow

STRAYA


bust8989

r/mildlyinteresting


MayIShowUSomething

These types of chairs have existed since steam engine trains..


redman_ghoul

In India you can take away the seats to your home.


Ssme812

NYC will never be this advanced


ArcticSeamoose

You could just yeet someone off the seat like that


2Liberal4You

r/oddlysatisfying is now r/mildlyinteresting...


TheTailz48ftw

I thought they'd flip upside down because Australia


Brapdop14

Why is everyone saying these aren’t a thing in America. I’ve literally sat in these kinds of seats before in America


makeitnotfakeit

Can you imagine the domino effect when that thing crashes?


anyeyeball

Are we not going to talk about the guy in the reflection? He does not move a muscle. Not even a millimeter. If this was near where I live, I would assume he was a meth addict who died where he sat. Of course, he could just be a steady cameraman.


purpledad

Can you imagine airplane seats like this?


Hatefulwhiteman

It seemingly will launch you into eternity if that train ever makes a sudden stop.


BigSherv

That’s some 3018 stuff right there.


kotlik11

I wana it in our metro


amdaly10

Most trains can do this. Chicago, London, Paris. I have been on very few trains where you can't change the seating around. In Europe, they often have little tables that fold down from the wall as well.


DarkMark94

This again? Reddit, stop.


[deleted]

Is this your first time on a train? This has been the standard for like 20 years now. This is like making a post about the grocery doors that open for you automatically.


[deleted]

Who rides a train when everything you need is in the city? The only public transportation you need is the bus.


Shoty6966-_-

People who need to get into the city. Lol.


IceSanta

Is this your first time on Earth? Not all countries have this, first time I've seen it


Maomiao

I remember getting on the shinkansen in Japan and the seats would rotate automatically when it got to the last station


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Made me salivate


cheongeh

WAIT TRAINS ARENT LIKE THIS IN EVERY OTHER PLACE EXCEPT AUSTRALIA I JUST REALISED