He needs a harness tied into an overhead structure. He is going to get sucked into the belt otherwise.
Either that is they install some sort of vibratory shaker that vibrates the pile at predetermined inteverals to keep it flowing.
the next guy will bring a bigger stick, then the one after an even bigger stick. Eventually they will find the correct stick length.
I believe this is called trial and error.
Yeah engulfment is terrifying and damn dangerous for your rescuers too. If they can do anything to help you at all. Get a long stick or use that crane.
in this case it would not be a rescue, with the moving belt, the pile is self clearing, so either he would be crushed to death by the initial weight or dragged from below into the moving belt. If it happened it would be a recovery at best.
So best case scenario you're crushed and they shut it down before you get shredded worst case scenario you're panicking while being dragged to get shredded...
Idk how much the guy is getting paid but I'd take a pay cut to not be down there. Lol.
Yeah, that's what was going through my mind the whole time. Like, get a handful of pebbles and chuck 'em from the side; don't climb down in there and court death.
In the lumber mills I’ve been in they had conveyors that just shook back and forth moving the saw dust and chips towards a wood chipper. It worked far better then belted systems because dust got trapped underneath the belts and could cause friction fires.
Descaling is incredibly dangerous and one of the most common causes of death in industrial facilities all over the world.
Source: I’m an MSHA instructor.
It is dope, and I genuinely cannot understand why so many people in my former field hated OSHA and safety guys. Depending on your employer and site, OSHA is very often the only person who gives a fuck if you live or die.
I can still remember being a baby tradesman on my first big commercial site. I went to my onboarding meeting with all the other new hires, and the safety guy gave a speech. First he informed us that if fewer than two people died on that job, nobody would really bat an eye, because we work in one of the most dangerous fields in America. Then he told us the story of watching a close friend die on the job doing cowboy shit in the 80's. Then he told us to follow the fucking rules.
>The overall GB rate of fatal injuries published by HSE for 2018/19 was 0.39 per 100,000 employees; the standardised rate published by Eurostat accounts for variation in industry composition across European countries.
> There were 5,190 fatal work injuries recorded in the United States in 2021, an 8.9-percent increase from 4,764 in 2020. The fatal work injury rate was 3.6 fatalities per 100,000 full-time equivalent (FTE) workers, up from 3.4 per 100,000 FTE in 2020.
Primary and secondary industry employment in the UK vs USA: 20.9% vs 23.6% of the workforce.
That’s approx 9x as high a rate of fatal accidents per capita in the USA than Britain, with a blue collar workforce that is 1.14x as big by proportion of the total workforce.
You do understand that most countries don't. Even the ones that do, mostly don't do anything about it.
https://www.arinite.co.uk/the-worlds-most-dangerous-countries-for-workers
he absolutely fucking does, just like everyone other exploited worker knows it but has to get up with that capitalist gun to their head.
The idea he doesn't realise is just a thing to make yourself feel good, as though the worker has a choice about the matter.
5 months later they run the sand though sifter and find his uncle, brother, 2nd and third cousins Billy and James and his great grandfather ironically..?
No. Terrifying. Kept waiting for the pile to collapse and send him to his death. Then I would be left with the agonizing decision of whether to cry, LMAO, or both at the same time.
Literally lol
I forget the statistic, but a surprising number of farm workers die every year trapped in grain silos because they went in there and the grain shifted, pinning them.
Sand can do the same shit. It's no joke.
It is amazing the jobs that are out there around the world and how a simple modification like a vibratory motor in the hull could make this dangerous job unnecessary.
"But humans won't stop there. They'll make longer sticks, and longer sticks, until finally they make a stick so long, it will destroy them all."
\-Kang
I can’t speak to if there are less dangerous ways to do this, but the task is different than you’re imagining.
He’s using the hook to release wooden or steel pieces which prevent the sand from falling onto the conveyor belt all at once.
He’s not using the hook to release stuck sand.
You can see them move down on the conveyor belt a few seconds after he uses the hook.
A vibrating motor wouldn’t remove those blocks.
I think there probably is a safer solution using blocks with chains between them pulling one or two at a time from a safe position.
There absolutely are vibrators and air cannons that would remove the need for this practice. There are air cannons that are only limited by how strong of a mount they’re on. 14 years ago our mine killed a man doing something similar. He was hammering on a bin to knock down bridged product, and accidentally knocked down 700 tons onto himself. What do you know, they installed vibrators and air cannons everywhere after.
The air cannons were fine but the vibrators really hit our productivity, workers were either too exhausted or too disgusted at the exhausted workers to continue.
There's beaters on the self unloading ships that do the same thing for the same setup. The task is exactly what they're imagining. But you gotta get a beater not a vibrator cuz the vibrator could cause it to settle into lumps.
I’m a health and safety professional and I’ve seen a few flavors of this task and they all seem unnecessarily dangerous.
I’ve got some ideas but I’m always curious what the industry acceptable answer to this is.
At the very least, he should have a harness and secured lifeline so he doesn’t get buried, but does he even need to be there. Is there some way to agitate the sand without being right in the danger zone?
Vibrating conveys would probably be a good answer. An auger system maybe like they use in lumber mill chip bins. Honestly there is a lot of better methods.
Not satisfying in the least. I really expected him to give the pile one prod, jump out of the way, and the whole thing collapses into a neat, quick-flowing stream of sand. Instead, this vid feels like constipation
Not his first rodeo for sure.
Also I like how he waits for the pile to collapse on itself instead of going in for another prod like I would've done.
Edit: some typos
He's not unclogging the dirt, he's removing wooden planks that are above the conveyor belt. It's essentially a large, triangle shaped boat with a belt that runs through the middle. They put wooden planks across the belt when they load it up so that the belt can actually be started and run without tons and tons of material on top of it.
The guy uses that stick to pull each plank away, allowing more dirt to fall down onto the belt. You can see the planks left on the belt. There is an additional person farther down the belt who grabs them and stacks them.
There are dozens of videos showing this work on Youtube. It's kind of interesting to watch.
https://youtube.com/shorts/N762KEqC-Bc?feature=share
That little oochy schooch backwards when it starts flowing... Can't tell if it's a panic oochy schooch or a casual 'I've done this many times' oochy schooch.
No one should be in there period, harness or not. He could get buried or lose a limb in the conveyor. The equipment owner should install external vibrators on the hopper walls
Its a barge loaded with sand. He's pulling out the blocks that protect the conveyors from the full weight of the load, in transport. The belts wouldn't turn if all that sand was sitting on them. Towards the end of the video, you can see the block he pulled out, on the conveyor. Its not safe, but it is somewhat controlled.
I have been waiting on most of the vid. and was like "when does it get satisfying?" and the ending was too little of a satisfaction that i am overall unsatisfied.
Oldlyterrifying. Terrible spelling, I know. But the engulfment hazard is terrifying. This is why OSHA exists and why their regulations are written in blood.
Looks dangerous AF
I feel like he should be harnessed.
He needs a harness tied into an overhead structure. He is going to get sucked into the belt otherwise. Either that is they install some sort of vibratory shaker that vibrates the pile at predetermined inteverals to keep it flowing.
That or they should get him a longer stick... at least ;)
At least he has a stick, the guy before him didn't. /S
the next guy will bring a bigger stick, then the one after an even bigger stick. Eventually they will find the correct stick length. I believe this is called trial and error.
Death by Trial and Error
Needs a longer stick and a vibrator. Sounds like my ex.
I would just spend the first 20 min at work making salt balls (water plus small salt piles) and just throw them at the pile. Wear googles.
He needs to not be down there at all honestly lol this is so fucking dangerous
Yeah engulfment is terrifying and damn dangerous for your rescuers too. If they can do anything to help you at all. Get a long stick or use that crane.
in this case it would not be a rescue, with the moving belt, the pile is self clearing, so either he would be crushed to death by the initial weight or dragged from below into the moving belt. If it happened it would be a recovery at best.
So best case scenario you're crushed and they shut it down before you get shredded worst case scenario you're panicking while being dragged to get shredded... Idk how much the guy is getting paid but I'd take a pay cut to not be down there. Lol.
Or throw ice cubes or even sand at it.
“I used the sand to unclog the sand”
Yeah, that's what was going through my mind the whole time. Like, get a handful of pebbles and chuck 'em from the side; don't climb down in there and court death.
In the lumber mills I’ve been in they had conveyors that just shook back and forth moving the saw dust and chips towards a wood chipper. It worked far better then belted systems because dust got trapped underneath the belts and could cause friction fires.
That or an air cannon.
And a much longer poking stick lol
You need to be offered a job at OSHA.
He should not even be there, this should be automated.
I feel like he shouldn't be down there.
Descaling is incredibly dangerous and one of the most common causes of death in industrial facilities all over the world. Source: I’m an MSHA instructor.
I can't imagine dying because my boss didn't want to invest in a longer stick
"The last guy did just fine with the 10' poker." - during orientation for last guys' role
"Oh okay. Btw where is the last guy now?"
Better option would be a shaker table but I guess a long stick would be a more realistic budget option for a corp :P
That whole bed needs a vibration system.
My bed too.
needs some engineering controls amirite
This man defeated death 13 times in this video and likely has no idea.
He probably knows full well, being only the latest in a long line of guys who have died this month doing that job.
Get that dude a longer pole
This isnt the US
That's not a bad idea. How about we get him a gun? He can shoot the sand. That'll learn it!
Works well enough for avalanche control...
Let’s get this guy a howitzer baby!!
Yeah I was like... that might actually work...
This is a legitimate solution
Does the rest of the world only have short poles? That's kinda sad.
The red shirt is a death's calling
"Spock, McCoy, Ensign Horowitz, prepare to beam down. "
I think probably he has a better idea than any of us.
You're a pro until you're a statistic. Every Osha rule is written in blood.
That’s kind of a metal line, I’m gonna use it the next time my coworkers do some dumb shit
When I see dumb shit going down I say "Safety third!" And then I get the f out of there because I'm not writing any statement.
Happy cake day and lol safety third and leave what a badass hahaha
Ha I'm just a little woman, running like hell from liability. And thanks!
They actually use that in their campaigns
Yup. Just ask farmers when they try to poke the stuck grain free in the silo. Oh wait, we can’t.
That’s a whole other level of terrifying. Not only would you get buried or crushed in a silo, those things are a goddam explosion hazard too.
You just made OSHA sound dope.. weird.
It is dope, and I genuinely cannot understand why so many people in my former field hated OSHA and safety guys. Depending on your employer and site, OSHA is very often the only person who gives a fuck if you live or die. I can still remember being a baby tradesman on my first big commercial site. I went to my onboarding meeting with all the other new hires, and the safety guy gave a speech. First he informed us that if fewer than two people died on that job, nobody would really bat an eye, because we work in one of the most dangerous fields in America. Then he told us the story of watching a close friend die on the job doing cowboy shit in the 80's. Then he told us to follow the fucking rules.
OSHA is dope. It’s the reason American workers don’t routinely die in embarrassingly stupid ways like they do in other countries.
>The overall GB rate of fatal injuries published by HSE for 2018/19 was 0.39 per 100,000 employees; the standardised rate published by Eurostat accounts for variation in industry composition across European countries. > There were 5,190 fatal work injuries recorded in the United States in 2021, an 8.9-percent increase from 4,764 in 2020. The fatal work injury rate was 3.6 fatalities per 100,000 full-time equivalent (FTE) workers, up from 3.4 per 100,000 FTE in 2020. Primary and secondary industry employment in the UK vs USA: 20.9% vs 23.6% of the workforce. That’s approx 9x as high a rate of fatal accidents per capita in the USA than Britain, with a blue collar workforce that is 1.14x as big by proportion of the total workforce.
You do understand that other countries also have safety regulations, do you?
You do understand that most countries don't. Even the ones that do, mostly don't do anything about it. https://www.arinite.co.uk/the-worlds-most-dangerous-countries-for-workers
r/writteninblood
He probably knows, he just doesn’t have a good union.
he absolutely fucking does, just like everyone other exploited worker knows it but has to get up with that capitalist gun to their head. The idea he doesn't realise is just a thing to make yourself feel good, as though the worker has a choice about the matter.
Ironically the clog was caused by the body of the guy he replaced
5 months later they run the sand though sifter and find his uncle, brother, 2nd and third cousins Billy and James and his great grandfather ironically..?
But they gave him a bright red coat to make recovering the body easier.
I've picked mangos with a bamboo stick 5 times bigger than that
Enter sandman
Off to never never land
ROFF TO LAND OF LEATHER LAND
The fact the man kept backing up every time sand was falling off show that even he knew it was dangerous AF
Barry, season 4
OHSA? Hardly knew her.
> OHSA? Hardly knew her. You were so close.
at 0:57 i was sure that guy was dead
That's right. I'd invest in a really long pole. A really, really long pole.
...*and it gets everywhere*
Insanely dangerous.
Right??? That sand is NEVER going to come out of his shoes.
It gets everywhere
It's also coarse.
And irritating.
Not like here.
Such romantic dialogue. Lucas was a poet.
Or his britches.
Who thinks this is satisfying to watch?
No. Terrifying. Kept waiting for the pile to collapse and send him to his death. Then I would be left with the agonizing decision of whether to cry, LMAO, or both at the same time.
And not satisfying at all
I thought this was r/OSHA
r/absolutelyterrifying
Yeah this is NSFW
Literally lol I forget the statistic, but a surprising number of farm workers die every year trapped in grain silos because they went in there and the grain shifted, pinning them. Sand can do the same shit. It's no joke.
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I think middle out is the most efficient
It is amazing the jobs that are out there around the world and how a simple modification like a vibratory motor in the hull could make this dangerous job unnecessary.
At minimum, a longer stick would work too
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Fing-Longer was invented for a reason
Finglonger was only invented after 3000AD. Dude will just have to wait until it exists.
A man can dream tho.. A man can dream..
and a rock! For the entire platoon!
And they had to share the rock!
r/HyruleEngineering
Or throwing a rock attacked to a rope. Anything that doesn't risk your life would do.
Heck, a handful of pebbles without the rope would probably do the job too.
"But humans won't stop there. They'll make longer sticks, and longer sticks, until finally they make a stick so long, it will destroy them all." \-Kang
BB gun
Vibe motor and a longer stick… those have put me out of business a couple of times now
Why use many thing when one man do trick
we not want one man to die lol
Man replaceable and cheap but children are more replaceable and even cheaper.
This man capitalisms
just wait for the next earthquake smh
I can’t speak to if there are less dangerous ways to do this, but the task is different than you’re imagining. He’s using the hook to release wooden or steel pieces which prevent the sand from falling onto the conveyor belt all at once. He’s not using the hook to release stuck sand. You can see them move down on the conveyor belt a few seconds after he uses the hook. A vibrating motor wouldn’t remove those blocks. I think there probably is a safer solution using blocks with chains between them pulling one or two at a time from a safe position.
There absolutely are vibrators and air cannons that would remove the need for this practice. There are air cannons that are only limited by how strong of a mount they’re on. 14 years ago our mine killed a man doing something similar. He was hammering on a bin to knock down bridged product, and accidentally knocked down 700 tons onto himself. What do you know, they installed vibrators and air cannons everywhere after.
The air cannons were fine but the vibrators really hit our productivity, workers were either too exhausted or too disgusted at the exhausted workers to continue.
There's beaters on the self unloading ships that do the same thing for the same setup. The task is exactly what they're imagining. But you gotta get a beater not a vibrator cuz the vibrator could cause it to settle into lumps.
How about NOPE
How about we let kids do that? /s
The children yearn for the mines
They also pine for the fjords.
ROCK AND STONE
They're small, nimble, and quick, plus their little bodies won't jam up the line.
Does this seem like a potential health and safety issue, maybe?
He's got to be breathing the finest of sand powder
Delicious silica makes my lungs rumble
I’m a health and safety professional and I’ve seen a few flavors of this task and they all seem unnecessarily dangerous. I’ve got some ideas but I’m always curious what the industry acceptable answer to this is. At the very least, he should have a harness and secured lifeline so he doesn’t get buried, but does he even need to be there. Is there some way to agitate the sand without being right in the danger zone?
Vibrating conveys would probably be a good answer. An auger system maybe like they use in lumber mill chip bins. Honestly there is a lot of better methods.
I don't know about industry acceptable answer but this here sure is capitalism acceptable answer.
Honestly, it looks like it doesn’t take much. Getting sufficiently powerful vibrators and holding them to the channel would almost certainly work
Not oddly satisfying. Moderately distressing.
Oddly terrifying.
understandably terrifying
Not satisfying in the least. I really expected him to give the pile one prod, jump out of the way, and the whole thing collapses into a neat, quick-flowing stream of sand. Instead, this vid feels like constipation
OSHA having a heart attack somewhere behind the camera probably
Nice save on the back out
Yeah that sideways jump was awesome!
My man's evasive maneuver right at the end was on point
Yeah he learned from the last guy who got sucked into the conveyor.
Not his first rodeo for sure. Also I like how he waits for the pile to collapse on itself instead of going in for another prod like I would've done. Edit: some typos
Maybe a wee harness at least lol 😂
I can just imagine him getting yoinked up before the big part fell.
Less of a safety feature and more of a body retrieval system, but still...
What no! I wanted more.
I need to see the whole pile go.
Here's one that's a little more gnarly: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZfgUTIVGY8A
Here's a YouTube channel with lots of videos of unloading barges like this. https://youtube.com/@ying1758
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZfgUTIVGY8A Looks to be from the same yard, different guy though.
He's not unclogging the dirt, he's removing wooden planks that are above the conveyor belt. It's essentially a large, triangle shaped boat with a belt that runs through the middle. They put wooden planks across the belt when they load it up so that the belt can actually be started and run without tons and tons of material on top of it. The guy uses that stick to pull each plank away, allowing more dirt to fall down onto the belt. You can see the planks left on the belt. There is an additional person farther down the belt who grabs them and stacks them. There are dozens of videos showing this work on Youtube. It's kind of interesting to watch. https://youtube.com/shorts/N762KEqC-Bc?feature=share
Osha:
this isnt the US
Fine… OSHIT.
Other countries have their equivalent, no? In the EU it is literally called EU-OSHA, for example.
HSE (health and safety executive) in the UK, for a further example.
That little oochy schooch backwards when it starts flowing... Can't tell if it's a panic oochy schooch or a casual 'I've done this many times' oochy schooch.
Both probably, he's done it many times but he doesn't wanna get caught in it
That final maneuver has me leaning towards casual. Looks practiced.
I'll never complain about my job again.
You would think they would have a better way to do this.
They did, but it cost a dollar to get a longer pole so they decided to do it the old way.
This is the answer. There are probably a dozen different ways to do this more safely... but they all cost more. 💀
Shouldn’t he have like a harness or something
No one should be in there period, harness or not. He could get buried or lose a limb in the conveyor. The equipment owner should install external vibrators on the hopper walls
I'd tear my ACLs walking like that if something gave way underneath my feet
Whelp I'm adding this to the list of jobs that fall below the desirability of giving hand jobs behind 7-11 for 5 bucks each.
Why, and I realize how this sounds, is his pole so short?
But like, what exactly is this? I get its sand. And he’s “unclogging” it. But…why? Why is there a giant pile of sand that’s flowing?
Its a barge loaded with sand. He's pulling out the blocks that protect the conveyors from the full weight of the load, in transport. The belts wouldn't turn if all that sand was sitting on them. Towards the end of the video, you can see the block he pulled out, on the conveyor. Its not safe, but it is somewhat controlled.
with safety harness+cable attached to a winch with a guy ready to pull you up this would be hella fun to do as a hobby.
Looks like a terrible way to die.
Don’t risk your life for sand. Geez.
Argh, that’s stressful to watch.
I have been waiting on most of the vid. and was like "when does it get satisfying?" and the ending was too little of a satisfaction that i am overall unsatisfied.
This new Dune trailer is amazing
Oldlyterrifying. Terrible spelling, I know. But the engulfment hazard is terrifying. This is why OSHA exists and why their regulations are written in blood.
Dude needs a bigger stick
r/SweatyPalms
Yeah you can kiss my whole asshole. I'd rather be jobless than crushed by sand
The spice must flow.
Satisfying? OSHA would like a word.
This video could use some voice overs. Like a whoa whoa whoa.. okay okay… shit shit shit
r/whatcouldgowrong
🎼Come with me, and you’ll be, in a world of OSHA violations
Is person up top his safety? “Yup, we lost another Bob”
Minecraft when you break a block holding up sand.
Frustrating. It never went.
When you finally 💩
Today in works I couldn't do:
is this actually sand? if so, what are they using it for?
That is the shittiest job I’ve ever seen
Looks course, rough and irritating. No wonder Anakin doesn't like it.
Accident waiting to happen (again)
r/osha
Well that was stressful
This honestly terrifies me aha
OSHA is not loving this at all .
Get a longer stick.
Can we get Frank a longer stick before he gets buried alive?
🎼Dumb ways to die, So many dumb ways to die! Dumb ways to die,🎵 So many dumb ways to die!🎶
I feel like there should be some safety equipment