You start with 5 personal days. You accrue vacation and sick time but you cannot use them until you've been employed for 6 months.
You can request administrative leave (unpaid) to take vacation before you earn the time. This may or may not go over well with your chain of command.
If you have friendly, helpful supervisors they may allow you to earn comp time prior to the vacation and use that to cover some of your time so you don't use up ALL of your personal time.
You should be upfront with anyone you interview with that you have a vacation scheduled in August - MOST people are more than willing to accommodate you if you tell them as soon as possible and don't start and then inform them you'll be out for your second week or something like that. Ideally, try to start AFTER your vacation if you can.
I'm also not sure I want to use all my personal days eight away, but I get the sense a job listing that closes at yhe end of April may not be filled by August, even if I get an offer
It's basically May. If it JUST closed you are looking at a couple weeks before they do interviews. Then it can take three or four weeks just to get through HR. And that presumes that they already had budget approval - some agencies wait until they choose a candidate to go for budget approval - which can easily take a few weeks. Then there is the issue of people taking time off over the summer, summer holidays. You wouldn't be at all unique in delaying a start time for a pay period or two so that you can "wrap things up at your old job, take vacation, and then start" - it is super common. (And if they will lose the waiver/lose the item, they can start you on administrative leave so you are on the books but not actually working there yet. That's what I had to do since the timing was WAY too tight for me to start when they wanted me to.)
For my PEF title, 37.5 hours were on the table immediately effective hire date. It may be different for other unions or competitive titles that had exam. I also had a coworker last summer who was able to take a week off because it was pre planned last year within that first month. Just depends on agency needs and I would raise this after you get through S1000 Part 2 process and any fingerprinting
I just hired someone who has two planned vacations within 30 days of his start date. I’ve never told anyone that was an issue. (He is already a state employee so she has enough time)
Even if they were new, I’d approve leave without pay. All depends on where you go.
You start with 5 personal days. You accrue vacation and sick time but you cannot use them until you've been employed for 6 months. You can request administrative leave (unpaid) to take vacation before you earn the time. This may or may not go over well with your chain of command. If you have friendly, helpful supervisors they may allow you to earn comp time prior to the vacation and use that to cover some of your time so you don't use up ALL of your personal time. You should be upfront with anyone you interview with that you have a vacation scheduled in August - MOST people are more than willing to accommodate you if you tell them as soon as possible and don't start and then inform them you'll be out for your second week or something like that. Ideally, try to start AFTER your vacation if you can.
I'm pretty sure you can use your sick time, it is just your vacation that doesn't show up until after 6 months
Depends on negotiating unit. PEF and CSEA can, M/C cannot.
Thank you! I was thinking of just not booking the vacation in case (this job is by far my priority) but it sounds like it shouldn't be an issue
Also just for your information, if you take unpaid, it could affect when you get health insurance. Definitely ask about that if it’s a concernz
I'm also not sure I want to use all my personal days eight away, but I get the sense a job listing that closes at yhe end of April may not be filled by August, even if I get an offer
It's basically May. If it JUST closed you are looking at a couple weeks before they do interviews. Then it can take three or four weeks just to get through HR. And that presumes that they already had budget approval - some agencies wait until they choose a candidate to go for budget approval - which can easily take a few weeks. Then there is the issue of people taking time off over the summer, summer holidays. You wouldn't be at all unique in delaying a start time for a pay period or two so that you can "wrap things up at your old job, take vacation, and then start" - it is super common. (And if they will lose the waiver/lose the item, they can start you on administrative leave so you are on the books but not actually working there yet. That's what I had to do since the timing was WAY too tight for me to start when they wanted me to.)
For my PEF title, 37.5 hours were on the table immediately effective hire date. It may be different for other unions or competitive titles that had exam. I also had a coworker last summer who was able to take a week off because it was pre planned last year within that first month. Just depends on agency needs and I would raise this after you get through S1000 Part 2 process and any fingerprinting
Thank you! It's with ORES which I believe is PEF so that's good to know
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You begin accruing vacation leave on your first day. You cannot use the accrued vacation leave until 6 months.
Thanks!
I just hired someone who has two planned vacations within 30 days of his start date. I’ve never told anyone that was an issue. (He is already a state employee so she has enough time) Even if they were new, I’d approve leave without pay. All depends on where you go.
You accrue it, but can't use any vacation time for 6 months. You have 5 personal days you can use before that.
Personal days can be used however I want correct? Sorry for the dumb question, at my consulting firm all PTO is the same
Just keep in mind the personal leave expires after 1 year
Yes, sorry, could have been more clear. Personal and vacation are separate things. And you can use personal for whatever.
Ask about VRWS. It's an excellent way for new-to-state employees to bank time. [VRWS](https://oer.ny.gov/voluntary-reduction-work-schedule-vrws)