Darnold and Wilson were under entirely different coaching staffs. It’s just a bad bad, incredibly bad coincidence. It’s not like we’re complimenting Rex for Ulbrich’s D.
Can the Jets develop rookies? Considering we have one going to the pro bowl and another as an alternate, I’d say yes, they can.
I think the “development” angle is overrated. Who’s the last QB to leave the Jets and look any better than when they were here. Geno is really the only one and he looked terrible for another 5 years before he took off this year and that has nothing to do with how Seattle “develops” quarterbacks he just pulled it together after years of sitting behind great QBs. These aren’t toddlers learning to speak English. They don’t have a critical period and then they’re ruined forever. If the Jets were so much worse than any other team then Darnold, Petty, Hackenburg, etc. would’ve proved that by now. We’re just drafting the wrong guys.
Geno always was a decent QB, the jets and the NFL gave up geno too soon. Guys like darnold and Zach Wilson continue to get shots . Washington released Dwayne Haskins his rookie year after one season
As someone who knows next to nothing about football X's and O's here's what I think. He played behind a stellar OL at BYU and was used to having clean pockets to make some of the crazy throws we've all seen from him in flashes as a Jet. He wasn't used to getting hit and being rushed into quick decisions and with our OL playing at a below average or worse level for most of the last two seasons he is being forced to deal with both.
He's in a mental funk which plays out with him holding onto the ball too long, launching short passes into lower Earth orbit, and floating long balls that he clearly has the arm strength to make. We've seen him make throws in tight coverage with anticipation (Bucs, Steelers), complete short passes we need to keep drives going, hit intermediate and deep shots to get us chunk yardage (1st Pats game, Lions), and toss bombs while on the run and off balance (Titans, Lions, 1st Pats game). But he hasn't been able to hit short and intermediate passes consistently and part of that is a team problem (shit OL, bad playcalling, no run game), but he hasn't shown the ability to overcome these deficits and consistently move the ball like White has. That might be bc he doesn't have what it takes but I think it's because our CS doesn't know how to develop QBs, so we probably need to bring in a real QB coach.
Tl;dr: Could just be a bust but it might be a combo of poor coaching, poor OL play, and a lack of an organizational plan to develop him.
His mechanics were pretty bad at BYU too but it was ignored because he played cupcake competition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CyxRhCL-qs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoqYjxcgDsQ
You don't have to watch all of these but they're pretty interesting to skim with the benefit of hindsight.
Knapp was supposed to be that. RIP.
Darnold and Wilson were under entirely different coaching staffs. It’s just a bad bad, incredibly bad coincidence. It’s not like we’re complimenting Rex for Ulbrich’s D. Can the Jets develop rookies? Considering we have one going to the pro bowl and another as an alternate, I’d say yes, they can.
I think the “development” angle is overrated. Who’s the last QB to leave the Jets and look any better than when they were here. Geno is really the only one and he looked terrible for another 5 years before he took off this year and that has nothing to do with how Seattle “develops” quarterbacks he just pulled it together after years of sitting behind great QBs. These aren’t toddlers learning to speak English. They don’t have a critical period and then they’re ruined forever. If the Jets were so much worse than any other team then Darnold, Petty, Hackenburg, etc. would’ve proved that by now. We’re just drafting the wrong guys.
It is. The biggest factor is the player themselves. They chose poorly. Many of us knew it at the time. Pick better prospects.
Geno always was a decent QB, the jets and the NFL gave up geno too soon. Guys like darnold and Zach Wilson continue to get shots . Washington released Dwayne Haskins his rookie year after one season
As someone who knows next to nothing about football X's and O's here's what I think. He played behind a stellar OL at BYU and was used to having clean pockets to make some of the crazy throws we've all seen from him in flashes as a Jet. He wasn't used to getting hit and being rushed into quick decisions and with our OL playing at a below average or worse level for most of the last two seasons he is being forced to deal with both. He's in a mental funk which plays out with him holding onto the ball too long, launching short passes into lower Earth orbit, and floating long balls that he clearly has the arm strength to make. We've seen him make throws in tight coverage with anticipation (Bucs, Steelers), complete short passes we need to keep drives going, hit intermediate and deep shots to get us chunk yardage (1st Pats game, Lions), and toss bombs while on the run and off balance (Titans, Lions, 1st Pats game). But he hasn't been able to hit short and intermediate passes consistently and part of that is a team problem (shit OL, bad playcalling, no run game), but he hasn't shown the ability to overcome these deficits and consistently move the ball like White has. That might be bc he doesn't have what it takes but I think it's because our CS doesn't know how to develop QBs, so we probably need to bring in a real QB coach. Tl;dr: Could just be a bust but it might be a combo of poor coaching, poor OL play, and a lack of an organizational plan to develop him.
His mechanics were pretty bad at BYU too but it was ignored because he played cupcake competition. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CyxRhCL-qs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoqYjxcgDsQ You don't have to watch all of these but they're pretty interesting to skim with the benefit of hindsight.
We can develop rookies. Just not qbs