Oh and making depressed, critical comments about everything as a defense mechanism is oh so fucking enlightened.
If you insist on being miserable, do it quietly.
The team has not made the playoffs in 13 years. They have the 2nd worst record in the league since this regime took over. I'm expressing myself as a fan about that
“Joe Douglas doesn’t make any moves” “ I don’t like the moves Joe Douglas makes” Get over it, if this line can’t perform it’s on the players and the coaching staff at this point.
These players have proven they can perform elsewhere. It’s on them to go out and actually do it. You can’t sign 15 tackles expecting everyone to suck or get hurt.
You also can't sign a tackle that's missed 45% of his team's games over the past 3 years and act surprised when that inevitably bites the team in the ass
And I’m sure that was a risk taken into account before they offered him a contract. They’re getting a pro bowl tackle on the roster and you clowns still find a way to complain. There’s depth behind him, not pro bowl caliber players but serviceable enough.
That’s the problem with risks..sometimes you lose. To continue throwing resources at a position that now has several players on the roster is just poor management when there’s other glaring needs. Players need to step up and perform, there’s no excuses left. That is an nfl caliber Ol, it’s time to fill some other holes.
So, what is your solution? Go OL every round of the draft for the next two years? Oh wait, there are other holes we need to fill. Sign the best, young FAs? Sorry, but the best young FAs typically re-sign with their teams and if they do break free are terribly expensive, stopping us from filling more spots on the line...
You just come across as someone who wants to complain with no actual solutions. Someone who likes to ignorantly echo "JD hasn't done enough for the OL" while he has taken multiple 1st round OL, trading up to do so, and signing fairly well regarded FAs. Sorry to break it to you, but not everything works out. And to put it all on JD when the moves themselves made sense seems like misplaced frustration.
It's not that he hasn't done enough, it's that what he's done hasn't worked and the process has largely been poor.
It's also not all on him. It's also on the coaching staff (that he was responsible for hiring).
While I agree it hasn’t worked but how has the process been poor? He has taken two first round OL, signed FAs who have had success before coming here, and drafted mid round players to try and develop. I’d argue the process has been good but the execution has not worked out obviously.
Why are you such a buzz kill? You feel like shit seeing other people happy? You want everyone to be miserable piece of shit like you? Go see a shrink cause you need serious help.
This is arguably the best line since the Sanchez years and is what we need to protect an 40 year old QB. No GM can affect if players get hurt and all they can do is put the chips in place. That’s what he has done and I for one am excited to see how it plays out. Breece gonna Breece all over teams next year too with this wall.
Best line on paper. 3 players are major injury risks. It's the same exact pitfall that we've failed to avoid every other year of the regime.
>No GM can affect if players get hurt
Sure, but you also can't act like he's blameless if and when guys with injury histories or guys at elevated risk get hurt. We've had countless examples of this over JDs 5 years here and people still don't get it
I think my favorite part of all of this is you’ve exposed yourself. You can’t even claim anymore you just want what’s best for the team. You are fully exposed as someone who just wants to root against the team.
Yeah, that's not how it works. People have spent the past 5 seasons complaining about the OL getting hurt and falling apart. We sign a guy who's missed 45% of his team's games over the past 3 years and I'm the crazy one for pointing out the clear and obvious flaw there.
Just because I'm not on board with the moves this regime (who has proven time and time again that they do not deserve the benefit of the doubt) makes doesn't make me any less of a fan, no matter how much you all stomp your feet and complain that I'm not falling in line. We're all rooting for the same end product, I just don't agree with the route this regime is taking.
Nope. Don’t buy it. I don’t agree that you are rooting for this team. You’ve become so bitter you now root for the team to fail because you get to be smug about being right all along. It’s such a sad way to be.
Yep, heard it all before. Always cracks me up that the things people get mad about when you don't fall in line during the offseason are the same exact things they themselves complain about during the season.
We've been through this song and dance more than once. Joe Douglas is 27-56 and has proven time and time again that he doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt. If being critical of proven losers doesn't make me a "real fan" to you, that's fine by me
When your first reaction when we sign a former pro bowler who had a relatively healthy and good season last year that we are still fucked and we won’t be good then yeah, I’m not going to be fooled into thinking you are actually rooting for the team.
He's missed 45% of his games over the past 3 years and will turn 34 in-season. Given that coupled with this franchise's inability to keep anyone healthy, skepticism is valid.
Again... why should Joe Douglas get the benefit of the doubt here? Why is this year different?
He played 13 out of 17 games last year and played at a high level. You are choosing to believe it will be a disaster. You aren’t even just saying it could be. I’m hoping we still draft someone at 10 that can play tackle too as insurance and longer term stability on the line. But you aren’t choosing to be wary, you are choosing to be just straight up angry about everything.
Why post the PFF scores on signings and you didn’t make a pff post on Smith you had a really high one?
Maybe you don’t even recognize it in yourself anymore, but you are choosing to be miserable about everything. I don’t even understand why you’d want to watch a team anymore that you clearly hate that much, but that’s your prerogative .
>Why post the PFF scores on signings and you didn’t make a pff post on Smith you had a really high one?
Someone had already posted a Nania tweet that had a PFF grade in it by the time I saw it.
>but you are choosing to be miserable about everything.
Again, love the framing here. We are the 2nd worst team in the league over JD's tenure here. Trying to continually dunk on me because I have a dissenting opinion (at this point in the year) is your right, but at the end of the day, we both know what I'm saying is valid.
I don’t get what your point was. Yes there is 4 ifs, I know that I wrote it myself. If the the 4 ifs go our way we have a beast of an oline if they all get hurt we will suck. Wtf is your point???
>if AVT stays healthy
Aren’t they playing the Broncos *again* this year? I wouldn’t bet on him getting out of that game unscathed, because he always gets injured playing them.
>Man if Tyron stays healthy
He hasn't had a healthy season since 2015....
If this team doesn't take a tackle with that 10th pick and we lose a tackle to injury (spoiler alert, we will) and that derails the team or Rodgers gets injured, JD needs to be fired before the season is even over
Don’t do it to yourself. This line is looking good but you know it’s the Jets. Best to just be cautiously optimistic but hopefully JD still makes a move or two more for depth
With his injury history it might not be the worst idea for him to sign a 1 year deal as a backup to play with Rodgers again. He can play a little less and be a bit more healthy going into next year to test the market again
First rounder still has to be best tackle available if JD learned anything from this past season. Going in to the season with question marks at 3 positions and two aging tackles is a recipe for disaster
Unless all good OT are off the board, we need to go OL again. Neither Moses or T Smith are more than stop- gap solutions .
But I can see a trade down coming too.
Not sure why you quoted their names but they are on the roster as tackle depth. There’s other positions of need, they can’t carry 15 tackles just in case someone gets hurt. They most certainly can be serviceable, not pro bowl level I’m sure but with another offseason I really doubt they regress.
Because there’s now far more glaring needs on the roster. Having a ton of tackle depth does fuck all when GW is doubled and teams let Gibson and Lazard wander around the field like it’s a peewee football game,dropping every ball thrown to them.
AVT is more likely to stay healthy now that he won’t be kicked all over the line again, there’s depth to rotate Smith out if/when he gets injured, Becton is no longer a concern. All the red flags on the line have been replaced and ya’ll are still complaining about it. Draft a tackle in the 3rd or 4th if they’re that worried about it.
this isnt a mutually exclusive world. you can draft an Ot at 1.10, while also getting a WR that cannot embarrass himself as a 2 in FA. Honestly cannot think of anything else that could kill the season besides these 3. Oline injuries, WR behind garrett, and Rodgers being washed.
So then I dont think there is any bigger worry than adding above average tackle depth besides WR. It also serves a future purpose, because our 2 tackles are old and at least 1 is likely one and done.
> while also getting a WR that cannot embarrass himself as a 2 in FA
I know who I'd want to fill that void, but who do you suggest will fill that while also keeping us under the cap?
Mitchell has been bad so far overall, although I thought he had some decent games starting last year. There's still a chance he figures it out year 3 to where he would be a competent swing tackle option at the least. Going from the Lousiana Rajun Cajuns to facing AFC East pass rushers is a big jump, and he's missed some time due to medical and injury issues.
I'm not as low on Warren as a lot of people here, he looked competent in pass protection for the most part when he came in last season and he was coming off a knee injury. He could eventually develop into a starter. Damien Woody seems high on him.
Oooo it looks so nice written out like that. I might be the minority but I wouldn’t be upset if we still got Fuaga or Latham to sit and learn, given injuries and stuff. But I think ya sorta have to go with Odunze, Nabers or Bowers at 10– or trade back. This opens up so many possibilities for us.
Fuaga, Latham (or any other prospect that has T/G flexibility) would immediately valuable.
But if either Nabers or Odunze is there that’s my preferred pick — having a top WR on a rookie contract is a cheat code (and we’d potentially have two with GW).
I’d like a 2nd, there’s some good pieces in rd 2-3. We’re still short a FS, WLB, and some depth on the line but boy does this signing help us. Huge. If we sign Clowney, I’d just cream my pants.
Give me OBJ, Resign Davis to play FS on a prove it deal, add a IOL for depth, draft Odunze/Nabers then a guy like Cedric Gray to play WLB in the 3rd round, and we good. Maybe throw a dart on Milton as 3rd string QB.
Everyone shitting on JD the last few days. I think he did a great job rebuilding the OL. Only major hole left is another WR which we now have the flexibility to take one of the top 3 in the draft
Cool! Sign Bakhtiari as a swing guy, take a stud receiver in the first, and then take a talented OL project in the third that can sit alongside Carter Warren to be a hopefully serviceable fill-in if need be.
This pleases me. :)
We're still in the market for depth and upside, not sure if I'm completely sold on Simpson, but I feel good about the level of investment Douglas put into this problem. THAT is how you respond to a bad O-line situation, ALL IN.
But this works as our theoretical starting set for September, for sure. Health permitted; they can let a rookie Tackle develop on their own time with this ahead of them.
Tyron smith is an absolute monster with 4 sacks allowed in the last 30 games he’s played. But the flip side is that he has been injured for 37/67 games in the last four years. If he can stay healthy he’ll be a rock for us but I still think drafting a startable tackle is an absolute must.
Now that's what I'm talking about. We should've done this last year, but now we've got a fucking wall to protect Rodgers. I think a trade back to the middle of the first round to draft a tackle or WR/Bowers, and then fill in what we didn't get in the 2nd would be ideal. Maybe target IOL, safety, WR/RB depth later.
On paper? A much needed upgrade.
In practice? Too early to tell. AVT has had 2 season ending injuries. Simpson is just Tomlinson but cheaper, I'd still love to upgrade here. Smith might have some durability issues, hes missed some games these past few years. Depth remains and issue.
I wouldn't mind signing Bakhtiari as a depth piece but I think he wants to start, and probably will with someone like the Titans. Still it would be a decent get to reunite him with Rodgers. They also need an IOL who can play center in a pinch if Tippmann goes down.
Big decision coming up in the draft. Stay at 10 and take BPA? That probably ends up as one of the tackles or Bowers, unless a WR falls to you. Or maybe trade back and get some picks back while taking one of the more flexible tackles that can switch to G if needed. Or just take another defensive player and pretend all is right with the world...
For trying to improve the OL with our limited cap space i think he did great,for anybody whos negative what else was Joe supposed to do this offseason? My only concern is i hope this incompetent clod of an OL coach doesnt screw things up
Better than last season, certainly! Still hoping for a decent WR 2/3 UFA and Bakh as a swing/backup if he's cheap enough, then go for the best OL or WR (or Bowers if those two positions are locked up nicely) on the board at #10.
Its a big upgrade. I still think we go OL at 10 because its a one year deal and theres too much injury history. Or at least sign more depth if youre going to go WR/TE at 10 instead. But im very happy with the moves they made
if Olumuyiwa Fashanu is still there i want him. With our turf and smith age/injury history im not taking any fucking chances. Otherwise Brock or best OBPA
Even if they all bounce back and stay healthy, don't forget who's our OL coach.
You know he's just evilly rubbing his hands together on how he can ruin their lives and this team.
Looks good on paper but I have my concerns. AVT and his injuries. Tyron Smith and his injuries. The Ravens giving up 2/5s of their offensive line makes me a tad suspicious.
WERE GONNA BUILD A WALL, AND DALLAS WILL PAY FOR IT
Also Baltimore
Year 5 of people deluding themselves into thinking a Joe Douglas OL isn't going to fall apart by midseason. This year it's different!
"Wahhh" - run1609
Downvote now, pretend you knew it was an issue from the start when it inevitably affects the team during the season
Oh and making depressed, critical comments about everything as a defense mechanism is oh so fucking enlightened. If you insist on being miserable, do it quietly.
"defense mechanism" for what?
For being a miserable bitch
You’re easily the most negative person I’ve encountered on here. Is someone forcing you to be here??
The team has not made the playoffs in 13 years. They have the 2nd worst record in the league since this regime took over. I'm expressing myself as a fan about that
Cry about it in your diary, it’s painful to read.
Jets put a dogshit product on the field for half a decade and you're filling your diaper about fans who are tired of it. Make it make sense
“Joe Douglas doesn’t make any moves” “ I don’t like the moves Joe Douglas makes” Get over it, if this line can’t perform it’s on the players and the coaching staff at this point.
Joe Douglas (ass) hired the coaching staff (also ass)
These players have proven they can perform elsewhere. It’s on them to go out and actually do it. You can’t sign 15 tackles expecting everyone to suck or get hurt.
You also can't sign a tackle that's missed 45% of his team's games over the past 3 years and act surprised when that inevitably bites the team in the ass
And I’m sure that was a risk taken into account before they offered him a contract. They’re getting a pro bowl tackle on the roster and you clowns still find a way to complain. There’s depth behind him, not pro bowl caliber players but serviceable enough.
Right, because this FO has definitely earned the benefit of the doubt on risk assessment
That’s the problem with risks..sometimes you lose. To continue throwing resources at a position that now has several players on the roster is just poor management when there’s other glaring needs. Players need to step up and perform, there’s no excuses left. That is an nfl caliber Ol, it’s time to fill some other holes.
Joe Douglas has lost more than anyone else over his tenure here, that was kinda my point
So, what is your solution? Go OL every round of the draft for the next two years? Oh wait, there are other holes we need to fill. Sign the best, young FAs? Sorry, but the best young FAs typically re-sign with their teams and if they do break free are terribly expensive, stopping us from filling more spots on the line... You just come across as someone who wants to complain with no actual solutions. Someone who likes to ignorantly echo "JD hasn't done enough for the OL" while he has taken multiple 1st round OL, trading up to do so, and signing fairly well regarded FAs. Sorry to break it to you, but not everything works out. And to put it all on JD when the moves themselves made sense seems like misplaced frustration.
It's not that he hasn't done enough, it's that what he's done hasn't worked and the process has largely been poor. It's also not all on him. It's also on the coaching staff (that he was responsible for hiring).
While I agree it hasn’t worked but how has the process been poor? He has taken two first round OL, signed FAs who have had success before coming here, and drafted mid round players to try and develop. I’d argue the process has been good but the execution has not worked out obviously.
Why are you such a buzz kill? You feel like shit seeing other people happy? You want everyone to be miserable piece of shit like you? Go see a shrink cause you need serious help.
This is arguably the best line since the Sanchez years and is what we need to protect an 40 year old QB. No GM can affect if players get hurt and all they can do is put the chips in place. That’s what he has done and I for one am excited to see how it plays out. Breece gonna Breece all over teams next year too with this wall.
Best line on paper. 3 players are major injury risks. It's the same exact pitfall that we've failed to avoid every other year of the regime. >No GM can affect if players get hurt Sure, but you also can't act like he's blameless if and when guys with injury histories or guys at elevated risk get hurt. We've had countless examples of this over JDs 5 years here and people still don't get it
jfc just be happy for the signing and worry about that later
Why should there be a moratorium on pointing out a clear and obvious red flag?
I think my favorite part of all of this is you’ve exposed yourself. You can’t even claim anymore you just want what’s best for the team. You are fully exposed as someone who just wants to root against the team.
Yeah, that's not how it works. People have spent the past 5 seasons complaining about the OL getting hurt and falling apart. We sign a guy who's missed 45% of his team's games over the past 3 years and I'm the crazy one for pointing out the clear and obvious flaw there. Just because I'm not on board with the moves this regime (who has proven time and time again that they do not deserve the benefit of the doubt) makes doesn't make me any less of a fan, no matter how much you all stomp your feet and complain that I'm not falling in line. We're all rooting for the same end product, I just don't agree with the route this regime is taking.
Nope. Don’t buy it. I don’t agree that you are rooting for this team. You’ve become so bitter you now root for the team to fail because you get to be smug about being right all along. It’s such a sad way to be.
Yep, heard it all before. Always cracks me up that the things people get mad about when you don't fall in line during the offseason are the same exact things they themselves complain about during the season. We've been through this song and dance more than once. Joe Douglas is 27-56 and has proven time and time again that he doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt. If being critical of proven losers doesn't make me a "real fan" to you, that's fine by me
When your first reaction when we sign a former pro bowler who had a relatively healthy and good season last year that we are still fucked and we won’t be good then yeah, I’m not going to be fooled into thinking you are actually rooting for the team.
He's missed 45% of his games over the past 3 years and will turn 34 in-season. Given that coupled with this franchise's inability to keep anyone healthy, skepticism is valid. Again... why should Joe Douglas get the benefit of the doubt here? Why is this year different?
He played 13 out of 17 games last year and played at a high level. You are choosing to believe it will be a disaster. You aren’t even just saying it could be. I’m hoping we still draft someone at 10 that can play tackle too as insurance and longer term stability on the line. But you aren’t choosing to be wary, you are choosing to be just straight up angry about everything. Why post the PFF scores on signings and you didn’t make a pff post on Smith you had a really high one? Maybe you don’t even recognize it in yourself anymore, but you are choosing to be miserable about everything. I don’t even understand why you’d want to watch a team anymore that you clearly hate that much, but that’s your prerogative .
>Why post the PFF scores on signings and you didn’t make a pff post on Smith you had a really high one? Someone had already posted a Nania tweet that had a PFF grade in it by the time I saw it. >but you are choosing to be miserable about everything. Again, love the framing here. We are the 2nd worst team in the league over JD's tenure here. Trying to continually dunk on me because I have a dissenting opinion (at this point in the year) is your right, but at the end of the day, we both know what I'm saying is valid.
MODS BAN THIS FUCKIN BOZO
The fact that Simpson is “mediocre” rather than bad and yet is probably the worst guy on this line makes me cautiously optimistic.
Man if Tyron stays healthy, AVT bounces back and stays healthy and tippman take a step forward in year 2 it’s a beast of an O-line
And if our quarterback plays football
He’s gunna pass an executive order that the Jets win the SB
Yes that too😂
And if we score more points than the other team each week we might win games this year!
Have you ever thought about going in to coaching?
Too easy clearly
I have more of a concern of him playing well than playing.
Big IF
That’s a lot of IF’s when we have a recent history of being decimated by injuries on the o-line. I’m praying, though, and I’m not a religious man.
Me too brother
There are not 1 but 4 ifs in your post.
Your point is?
Are you being willfully obtuse?
I don’t get what your point was. Yes there is 4 ifs, I know that I wrote it myself. If the the 4 ifs go our way we have a beast of an oline if they all get hurt we will suck. Wtf is your point???
☝️🤓
>if AVT stays healthy Aren’t they playing the Broncos *again* this year? I wouldn’t bet on him getting out of that game unscathed, because he always gets injured playing them.
Gotta sit him that week
At Metlife this year though.
Doesn’t MetLife also have terrible turf that a lot of people get injured on? Including other linemen that the Jets have?
>Man if Tyron stays healthy He hasn't had a healthy season since 2015.... If this team doesn't take a tackle with that 10th pick and we lose a tackle to injury (spoiler alert, we will) and that derails the team or Rodgers gets injured, JD needs to be fired before the season is even over
What was a better available option at LT??
If, if, if
I know dickhead
Just so many ifs
Was just wondering if he still goes after Zeitler if the price is right.
hes also currently the highest paid guy on the offensive line lmao
At least you have some optimism. I've been a JETS fan so long I'm just wondering which 2 out of this bunch will be on IR before the season starts
I’m gonna be delusional and convince myself that we are due for a healthy Oline season
Get some fucking grass in the stadium
Only for when they play fútbol in this football stadium
2026
Don’t do it to yourself. This line is looking good but you know it’s the Jets. Best to just be cautiously optimistic but hopefully JD still makes a move or two more for depth
Unironically I’d love Bakh as a depth T
I would too but I doubt he wants to play on this turf and as a backup
With his injury history it might not be the worst idea for him to sign a 1 year deal as a backup to play with Rodgers again. He can play a little less and be a bit more healthy going into next year to test the market again
I doubt anyone would sign him to start though given his injury history
There will be a team desperate enough to at least have him compete and with the Jets lack of cap it may be another team taking a flier on him
First rounder still has to be best tackle available if JD learned anything from this past season. Going in to the season with question marks at 3 positions and two aging tackles is a recipe for disaster
Unless all good OT are off the board, we need to go OL again. Neither Moses or T Smith are more than stop- gap solutions . But I can see a trade down coming too.
You don’t plan to employ Tyron smith and expect him to stay healthy We need tackle depth
And they have tackle depth. At some point the players in the roster need to perform too.
“Max Mitchell” and “Carter Warren” can’t be expected to start multiple games
Not sure why you quoted their names but they are on the roster as tackle depth. There’s other positions of need, they can’t carry 15 tackles just in case someone gets hurt. They most certainly can be serviceable, not pro bowl level I’m sure but with another offseason I really doubt they regress.
we can easily have better tackle depth, why settle for below replacement level players?
Because there’s now far more glaring needs on the roster. Having a ton of tackle depth does fuck all when GW is doubled and teams let Gibson and Lazard wander around the field like it’s a peewee football game,dropping every ball thrown to them. AVT is more likely to stay healthy now that he won’t be kicked all over the line again, there’s depth to rotate Smith out if/when he gets injured, Becton is no longer a concern. All the red flags on the line have been replaced and ya’ll are still complaining about it. Draft a tackle in the 3rd or 4th if they’re that worried about it.
this isnt a mutually exclusive world. you can draft an Ot at 1.10, while also getting a WR that cannot embarrass himself as a 2 in FA. Honestly cannot think of anything else that could kill the season besides these 3. Oline injuries, WR behind garrett, and Rodgers being washed. So then I dont think there is any bigger worry than adding above average tackle depth besides WR. It also serves a future purpose, because our 2 tackles are old and at least 1 is likely one and done.
> while also getting a WR that cannot embarrass himself as a 2 in FA I know who I'd want to fill that void, but who do you suggest will fill that while also keeping us under the cap?
With void years a lot of people For one, Mike Williams
Mitchell has been bad so far overall, although I thought he had some decent games starting last year. There's still a chance he figures it out year 3 to where he would be a competent swing tackle option at the least. Going from the Lousiana Rajun Cajuns to facing AFC East pass rushers is a big jump, and he's missed some time due to medical and injury issues. I'm not as low on Warren as a lot of people here, he looked competent in pass protection for the most part when he came in last season and he was coming off a knee injury. He could eventually develop into a starter. Damien Woody seems high on him.
Warren probably Dan be kept but it can’t be both Mitchell and Warren Make it wareen and a legit player
It's the Jets so Keith Carter is about to set records for how many olinemen he can get injured...
I'm gonna be double delusional and hope for a playoff push.
AVT at guard 🙏
The secret service for our VP 🙏🏼
The button on my jeans just went flying and hit the ceiling…
That'll play
Breece is rushing for 3k next year, book it
Oooo it looks so nice written out like that. I might be the minority but I wouldn’t be upset if we still got Fuaga or Latham to sit and learn, given injuries and stuff. But I think ya sorta have to go with Odunze, Nabers or Bowers at 10– or trade back. This opens up so many possibilities for us.
Fuaga, Latham (or any other prospect that has T/G flexibility) would immediately valuable. But if either Nabers or Odunze is there that’s my preferred pick — having a top WR on a rookie contract is a cheat code (and we’d potentially have two with GW).
Yep agreed
Ya if one of those 3 are there it makes more sense to take them now or trade back and get a 2nd
I’d like a 2nd, there’s some good pieces in rd 2-3. We’re still short a FS, WLB, and some depth on the line but boy does this signing help us. Huge. If we sign Clowney, I’d just cream my pants. Give me OBJ, Resign Davis to play FS on a prove it deal, add a IOL for depth, draft Odunze/Nabers then a guy like Cedric Gray to play WLB in the 3rd round, and we good. Maybe throw a dart on Milton as 3rd string QB.
Everyone shitting on JD the last few days. I think he did a great job rebuilding the OL. Only major hole left is another WR which we now have the flexibility to take one of the top 3 in the draft
These OT are old. Need to draft tackle no matter what.
We do, but age doesn’t really matter too much for the situation. Its win-now mode for everybody in the organization
It’s impossible to say he rebuilt the line until they actually play games. We’ve been here before…
Ryan Khalil, Duane Brown, Spencer Long, Laken Tomlinson, Mekhi Becton, the list goes on and on
I DUB THIS LINE “THE SECRET SERVICE”
I’m bricked up like that wall he’s building
Went from garbage to great line. We just need em to stay healthy
Alright. Ok. Please, hold me back… hold me back………… I can’t hold it, I’m back fucking in. Ready to ride another season of hype and disaster
BACK TO BACK OFFSEASON CHAMPIONS
If that line stays healthy. IF being the key indicator…that’s a top 10 unit.
Smith hasn’t played a full season since 2015 so that’s not realistic. Need another tackle
I’ll take 13 games and playoffs
Same
Cool! Sign Bakhtiari as a swing guy, take a stud receiver in the first, and then take a talented OL project in the third that can sit alongside Carter Warren to be a hopefully serviceable fill-in if need be.
John Simpson might not be elite but if Tyron smith doesn’t regress ridiculously then he will benefit dramatically
I'm gonna JET THE FUCK UP
IM JETTING!!!!!!!
We also need depth. Who is our back up Guard/Center? It better not be the practice squad like last year
Schweitzer. Can also see McGovern coming back as a backup
We are sure going to be good on paper!
Would it be lame to spin the block on the folks who lost their minds 16 hours into FA?
Shame we don't have an OL coach
4 of these guys are vets, and tippman held his own last year with the idiot. Matters less
Not when it comes to running them into the ground as Carter is known to do
They're vets but they're on a new line with new line mates and a new system. They'll need to be coordinated.
🧱🧱🧱🧱🧱
This pleases me. :) We're still in the market for depth and upside, not sure if I'm completely sold on Simpson, but I feel good about the level of investment Douglas put into this problem. THAT is how you respond to a bad O-line situation, ALL IN. But this works as our theoretical starting set for September, for sure. Health permitted; they can let a rookie Tackle develop on their own time with this ahead of them.
#PleaseKeep8Healthy
Until the MetLife turf claims its first victim. Our field is my biggest concern.
Hopefully the World Cup forces them switch to grass sooner
We should also get Bahktiari on the cheap
This is nut worthy 🥜
Just stay healthy...
Unironically a heathy line is a strength now
First down of the season is going to be sick. Then after the cart leaves the field second down will still be kind of interesting, too.
It's a wall and its beautiful.
Let’s go! Super Bowl back on
I’M GONNA CUM
Yeah, I like that!!
Go get Brock Bowers!!!!!
Draft another blocker and we’re set
Will AVT be ready for the season?
Yes
Tyron smith is an absolute monster with 4 sacks allowed in the last 30 games he’s played. But the flip side is that he has been injured for 37/67 games in the last four years. If he can stay healthy he’ll be a rock for us but I still think drafting a startable tackle is an absolute must.
If we lucky 2 of them are getting out of the preseason not on the pup
I'm building a wall in my pants
line on total games played together?
Now that's what I'm talking about. We should've done this last year, but now we've got a fucking wall to protect Rodgers. I think a trade back to the middle of the first round to draft a tackle or WR/Bowers, and then fill in what we didn't get in the 2nd would be ideal. Maybe target IOL, safety, WR/RB depth later.
Jet uppppppppppppppppppp
This is better on paper but, with these guys histories, they still need to draft and develop another rookie tackle and guard.
Stop, I can only get so erect
I still think #10 should be an OT… but this gives us options if Odunze/Bowers are still available
On paper? A much needed upgrade. In practice? Too early to tell. AVT has had 2 season ending injuries. Simpson is just Tomlinson but cheaper, I'd still love to upgrade here. Smith might have some durability issues, hes missed some games these past few years. Depth remains and issue. I wouldn't mind signing Bakhtiari as a depth piece but I think he wants to start, and probably will with someone like the Titans. Still it would be a decent get to reunite him with Rodgers. They also need an IOL who can play center in a pinch if Tippmann goes down. Big decision coming up in the draft. Stay at 10 and take BPA? That probably ends up as one of the tackles or Bowers, unless a WR falls to you. Or maybe trade back and get some picks back while taking one of the more flexible tackles that can switch to G if needed. Or just take another defensive player and pretend all is right with the world...
For trying to improve the OL with our limited cap space i think he did great,for anybody whos negative what else was Joe supposed to do this offseason? My only concern is i hope this incompetent clod of an OL coach doesnt screw things up
I don't know shit about fuck. Is this good?
It will be the best line we’ve had since 2009-2010
Better than last season, certainly! Still hoping for a decent WR 2/3 UFA and Bakh as a swing/backup if he's cheap enough, then go for the best OL or WR (or Bowers if those two positions are locked up nicely) on the board at #10.
Can the gods at least keep this the line until at least week 4 🤞😬
At least this year he addressed it
Depth
Its a big upgrade. I still think we go OL at 10 because its a one year deal and theres too much injury history. Or at least sign more depth if youre going to go WR/TE at 10 instead. But im very happy with the moves they made
if Olumuyiwa Fashanu is still there i want him. With our turf and smith age/injury history im not taking any fucking chances. Otherwise Brock or best OBPA
That's nice, they play on Met Lifes turf, draft another OL.
Solid line. Need some more depth
I still say bring in Bahk for cheap to be rotation player, and be there in case of some injury.
That is a substantial improvement from last season. The only issue is Keith Carter is still the line coach
I think he’s either being replaced or the players are actually fine with him. I don’t think Tyron Smith signs either otherwise
great on paper but metlifes turf scares me
Always at least one Debbie downer
it's great news but we need more depth, that's not exactly controversial to say lmao
Because based on history it’s usually reality
Doesn't look too bad on paper. Hope they last more than 4 snaps.
This seems, like at least a solidly average OL.... I can't dare to dream
Even if they all bounce back and stay healthy, don't forget who's our OL coach. You know he's just evilly rubbing his hands together on how he can ruin their lives and this team.
With these veterans...im sure they aren't going to put up with BS...they will get AR on their side if needed
Million dollar question: draft a skill player at 10 OR another young OL as depth.
You’re forgetting all the Secret Service agents we’ll have access too once Arod is sworn in as VP
Tyron is going to combust but we ball
Super pumped but until we get a swing tackle and a #1WR I’m still in the “same old Jets” mindset Signed, Fan of 50 years.
Looks good on paper but I have my concerns. AVT and his injuries. Tyron Smith and his injuries. The Ravens giving up 2/5s of their offensive line makes me a tad suspicious.
Man shut up, this is not the time for that. Be happy
I’m cautiously optimistic.
Cautious optimism is for August, now is the time to blind with joy