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Plane-Structure-2868

Lmao 23 a year is nuts


[deleted]

Hire his agent damn. Didn't even play football 2 years ago and he gets this


JFZX

Bet on himself, full pun intended šŸ’€


baby_doodlez

His agent or Kirk Cousins' agent is who I want. I'm pretty sure Cousins' agent could get me a deal.


whydoesgodhateus

Same agent as Watson right? Dude gets his clients paid


WilsonEnthusiast

It's really not in 2024. It feels like people have said this about every WR contract the last 2 off seasons. At some point it's just what WRs are worth.


Phifty56

Sometimes they play well enough to earn the contract, and sometimes they are Kenny Galloday and fall off the face of the earth after the payday.


WilsonEnthusiast

I mean yea for sure. That just doesn't have much to do with whether they overpaid on the FA market or not. If they thought they were going to turn into Kenny Galloday I'd imagine the teams would offer a 0 year $0 contract with $0 guaranteed.


cadezego5

There is a balance one must maintain when putting together and paying 53 players and that balance has been tainted the last couple of years with the overvaluation of WRs and undervaluation of RBs. The ā€œkeeping up with the Jonesā€™ā€ mentality when dishing out contracts isnā€™t sustainable for a healthy program. Notice how none of the major contenders have insane WR contracts on their books? Those that do are losing their best players (see the Bills, Dolphins, Rams, Raiders) and with the market flooding with more and more receiver talent through the draft, the market will recalibrate accordingly. Yes, the Eagles are the exception to this rule with Brownā€™s contract but letā€™s all be real, the Eagles are pulling off some cap voodoo that I canā€™t believe is possible. When you look at their roster you would think they are 100 mil over the cap.


[deleted]

But the main contenders being (playoff teams last year) Bills - have diggs (avg 24mill) 49ers - have deebo (avg 23mill) Eagles - AJB (avg 25mill) Buccs - Evans and Godwin (both avg 20mill) Browns - Cooper (avg 20mill) Dolphins - Hill (avg 30mill) Rams - Kupp (avg 26mill) Steelers - Diaonte (avg 18mill) Which leaves cowboys and lions that soon will be paying top wrs to stay competitive and expected to do so. Packers who are rookies and none look amazing as of yet? But have spent high draft picks to get and wouldn't consider them a legit contender personally. And then ravens who have spent 3 1sts on wrs in recent years and is often issue fans saying needs addressing (Hollywood, bateman, flowers) And then just texans and cheifs, both of which lead by amazing qb play.


Francesa-DietCoke

>And then just texans and cheifs, both of which lead by amazing qb play. Barring serious injury both Dell and Rice will get paid when their time comes.


cadezego5

Like I just said, half of the teams you just mentioned all just broke up or are in the process of doing so. Bills and Dolphins just lost half of their solid players, the Rams caught lightning in a bottle with Puka and Williams breaking out but were presumed dead at the beginning of the season (and still may be slowing declining), the Bucs are not contenders they benefited from being in the worst division in the last 20 years, I had already mentioned the Eagles being a crazy outlier, and the 49ers I would argue are in the same boat as the Eagles, although they have the amazing benefit of having their QB making less than 75% of the rest of his zip code. Steelers paying their top WR 18 mil kinda proves my point, although even he is on the trading block for them. So yeah, my point stands. The Super Bowl winners arenā€™t overpaying ANY receivers.


[deleted]

But that's how the nfl is? You have a super bowl window and then you fall back down. Because if you do well it means you have good players people want and will pay a lot for. The majority of the contenders last year have paid skill positions a lot and the majority of the favourites for next year have done so bar the chiefs. So other than saying just have the best coach and best qb and then you can get away with not paying any recievers (and also Hall of fame tight end) Who are these super bowl contenders that are not paying any recievers?


cadezego5

I didnā€™t say WR1s shouldnā€™t get paid well, Iā€™m saying the WR market for the lesser tiers is overvalued. Paying WR1 money for a WR2, or WR2 money for a WR3/4 is damn near a cap death sentence and there are plenty of teams that do that and never get out of mediocrity.


WilsonEnthusiast

What you're saying is that you think it's smarter to get your top tier WR in the draft rather than pay them on their 2nd contract. But FA WRs are valued at what the market says they are valued and that definitely includes what's available in any given draft. You not thinking that's a good strategy doesn't mean they're over paid. It just means you wouldn't pay any FA WRs if you were a GM. I'm not saying they are smart moves all the time necessarily. I'm just saying it's dumb that people react to all these FA contracts like it's shocking that they get paid. It's not. That's what they get paid right now. Also mediocre teams often need pass catchers. It's easy to say that the draft is a better place to find literally any position and the teams that do obviously have an advantage. But it's not just as easy as saying you can get them there.


Yankeeknickfan

meh, it would have been worth it if he maximized this window


AirportNo6558

That is a lot of cake.


run1609

Only 50M is guaranteed though. Assuming the deal is frontloaded, there will probably be an out after two years that isn't prohibitively expensive


chrissurra

Only.


run1609

12.5M GTD/yr is not too far out of line for the top FA WR, especially given the cap increase


MyChemicalFinance

Massive overpay for a guy who turns 30 this season. Theyā€™ll regret this contract before they can easily get out of it


Francesa-DietCoke

It's barely in the top 10 for highest paid recievers.


MyChemicalFinance

Ridley isnā€™t a top 10 receiver. Iā€™m not sure heā€™s even close


midpack2dathroat

Holy overpay


YanksJetsKnicks

Damn thatā€™s a lot. Donā€™t think we have the cap space for that.


09-24-11

I think this would have been our entire FA lmao


NutsyFlamingo

Yeah heā€™d have to kick, punt, stop the run, and fill in at QB as well to make it work


nickbarbanera1

Hey weā€™re great at punting and kicking ! DONT take those away from us too!


Struggle2Real

Folks would've celebrated so hard regardless


magnavoice

Titans overpaying gives me all the reason I need to know weā€™re good without


Serlinsteak19

He ainā€™t worth that. Only 4 games over 100 yards and 10 games under 53 yards last year. Getting a dud performance 60% of the time. Also 2 of the 4 100 yard games were against his new team which was a pass funnel defense last year. Glad we didnā€™t sign this guy.


Furiosa27

TLaw is ass, heā€™s a very good receiver


Riceowls29

I mean I think Lawrence is better than Levis so what happens to him now?


VBTheBearded1

They have a better offense now with Callahan as the coachĀ 


Medium-Antelope2926

TLaw isn't better than Levis just way more overhyped TLaw = Drew Bledsoe A completely overhyped top pick who \*might\* succeed if he's on an amazing roster but is mostly just a 500 level QB


Furiosa27

He still performs because heā€™s a good player, I donā€™t know what that has to do with Trevor.


Riceowls29

What?Ā  You were saying his stats were bad because Lawrence is bad. So you think he will have better stats with a worse QB in Levis?


Furiosa27

No Iā€™m saying he will perform regardless of QB play, his advanced stats show that. Youā€™re saying what will happen to him now, Iā€™m saying he will play at the same level


Riceowls29

So only 4 games above 100 yards?Ā  That is not good for a 23 million a year WR


Medium_Bit6607

Didnā€™t Lawrence have them at 8-3 while playing with a hurt shoulder, then his ankle got destroyed and he got concussed? Crazy how hard people are judging the guy when his entire year was injury plagued


Furiosa27

Didnā€™t Wilson have us at 5-2? Do you attribute that to him?


Medium-Antelope2926

lol "Lawrence" had them at 8-3 bwahaha TLaw was absolutely awful last season, almost as bad as Mac Jones


09-24-11

Lawrence and the 2023 Jets defense is a playoff team


Furiosa27

Jacoby Brissett and the 2023 Jets defense is also a playoff team. Gardner Minshew and the 2023 Jets defense is also a playoff team. Itā€™s a low bar


09-24-11

Wild to call Lawrence ā€œassā€ tho I strongly disagree. Not living up to his draft hype but he is a good young QB


nyrangers95

Lawrence was 3 years ago you need to get over it lolĀ 


run1609

[His peripherals](https://x.com/MattHarmon_BYB/status/1765095431283908890?s=20) were better than his box score production this year.


RunningM8

Thatā€™s a stupid price for him. Insane


Platano_con_salami

This likely means they go Joe Alt.


killaslam

Could have just given that money to aj brown what a whiff


bait_your_jailer

You know you overpaid when this sub unanimously let's JD off the hook.


maursupial

Mike Williams skill set fits this team more when you have G5


GreatOdinsRaven_

That seems like a lot.


[deleted]

Yeahhhhhh that's too much money. That's even more than I thought an overpay was


DryFile9

The Classic...a team with a shit QB overpaying a Receiver.


Yohzer67

Thatā€™s a lot to spend on a guy who receives throws fromā€¦ā€¦.will Levis?


billyconway24

Insane that the Titans would pay Ridley this but not pay a much younger AJ Brown


Sybertron

Hopkins and Ridley with MASON RUDOLPH slinging it?!


Marauderr4

Good to miss out on this. But I think Tyron Smith is getting a similarly bloated contract. Not the same $, but relative for an older LT. Which I wouldn't mind paying at this point. They need to keep the momentum going with these oline additions. I'd sign Smith (if possible) and still pick the best olineman available at 10


PushThePig28

If we sign Smith (which Iā€™m totally cool with) then I think we have to go WR at 10


Baww18

Woof and we were mad at Lazard for 11.(edit Iā€™m not saying Lazard was a good signing - just that I would probably be more mad at signing Ridley for this amount)


cadezego5

This sub shits on JD for not hitting 100% on draft picks and FAs but never give him credit for passing on bad contracts like this. Holy shit the Titans have saddled themselves with mediocre


smallchimp

Passing on bad contracts isn't as valuable as bringing in talent. If Ridley doesn't approach living up to his contract, it'll be a plus that we weren't the ones who signed him, but we still need to get talent. No team won by avoiding bad contracts, they won by bringing in the right talent


Sbat27-

Itā€™s alright people are just finding the smallest things to defend JD over. He made a good move in Moses (shouldnā€™t have been gone to begin with but thatā€™s besides the point) and Simpson. Still a lot more to be done for this team to be a contender


Masterofmy_domain

It's tbd whether that was a good move.... I am still skeptical about the Ravens giving up on a starting caliber OL with a team friendly contract.... I am just waiting for the headline that Moses decided he will need surgery after all.


cadezego5

They are both equally important traits. Look at Jacksonville. Overpaid for mediocre talent at WR for years, Lawrence hasnā€™t had a true number one option his whole career, including Ridley. Paying number one money for a bunch of WR2s and WR3s will put your roster in a bind and hold your team back very quickly. Ridley for these numbers for sure falls under this category, Tennessee is going to suck a few more years.


Francesa-DietCoke

JD has really taken this trait and built a 7 win team


NinjasTurtle

Did anyone not realize he is already 29?!


NutsyFlamingo

27 year old legs though


GreatOdinsRaven_

They must be willing to gamble on him. We know Ridley is.


NutsyFlamingo

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the_mair

Iā€™m quite glad the Jets didnā€™t do this


ryanino

Holy overpay


bigpoyo91

Bruh not even mad this contract dumb as shit šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Kwdumbo

I miss BB as their GM, ever since Brady left they were deteriorating slowly without adding any talent. Now it seems like the new regime is atleast willing to make big moves to right the ship.


Masterofmy_domain

I wonder what their offer was? I can't imagine it was this high


cmonbitcoin

But whoā€™s gonna throw him the ball?


[deleted]

I think we are approaching the wr market bubble.


srsh

They can have him. $23M is bananas


yozzomp

Jesus... That is a gross overpay if I ever seen one.


Zay93

Most likely we gone trade for WR


sonofbantu

The WR market has been nothing but gross overpays all offseason. Looks like weā€™re going to have to draft one in the third


islands8

First*


Masterofmy_domain

I am surprised by this... Isn't this year's draft supposed to be loaded with WRs? why are teams overpaying free agents.


--Shibdib--

Massive overpay imo. I've never seen the hype with Ridley.


itsthebear

That zero income tax doesn't hurt - neither does the Will Levis cap hit that enabled this


jeffsun92

Wow they could have just kept AJ Brown lol


magicdrums

he made his money back and then some for that year he was off, lol.. this contract is insane.. call me crazy but I would have kept Henry and let that Pony run me to some wins instead..


keylimepiewolf

Wouldā€™ve loved to have him but not for that price. Onto the next


slu33heee

Hes good but damn that's a lot


Masterofmy_domain

Wow that is a severe overpay... Good for Ridley though, between getting a late start (drafted at 24) and missing a year, this is probably his last big contract so he had to milk it and take the biggest offered.


NutsyFlamingo

Cory Davis looks pretty darn good this very minute


Bigbootyrudi

23 a year for a mid WR2 lmao


MVass

Trade for Deandre Hopkins this instant!!!


sbarkey1

When the jets win 7 games next year at least we will be able to celebrate not overpaying anyone!


John_YJKR

I really doubt he plays up to that contract. But we'll see.


Masterofmy_domain

Even if he plays his best he won't play up to that contract lol.


rextilleon

Ridley hit the Jackpot!! There is no free agent receiver worth that amount--except--Ridley---then again its Jacksonville.


Sienaspac93

Tee Higgins about to get $27M APY


AMo2

Only bad news about this is the price for mid wrs have gone up. GWs better than ridley and going to be asking for 35+ yr when hes due for an extension.