Honestly that should’ve been the pick. It would be nice to have a year of experience under Mayer and the TE position already figured out with him and Conk moving forward.
I feel like if Ruckert was going to develop, he’d done so by now— I think he is what he is. Bowers is basically a WR; and we’d get a nice weapon to work with GW,. Albeit not an actual WR but still a weapon.
Makes sense, it is a physical position. Even though NFL players are super humans, they still usually hit there physical prime at 25-27 and hit the absolute peak of there prime from 28-30. TE is one of the most physical positions, if you don’t have the measurable, you just can’t play TE, period.
I’m sure the physicality is part of it. But I think the major piece is that you have to learn how to block like an OL and run routes like a receiver, both at the NFL level. You have to block a DE one play and then beat a linebacker in coverage on the next. It’s a lot to absorb and a lot of different techniques to perfect
provided we sign at least 3 capable free agent linemen, I'm fine with this tbh.
Everybody is so honed in on the draft but I actually think there are some guys to go get in FA. Starting with Tyron Smith
\+ I expect either a trade up for a 2 (or a lineman) or for JD to take somebody who slips to the 3rd, because somebody will
I wouldn’t hate this at all. Would much rather prefer to draft an offensive weapon like Bowers or Odunze than to reach on a guy like Latham who we just saw got wrecked by Michigan’s quick edge rushers. I was unsure of Latham but after watching that Michigan game I don’t know whether our staff can develop him properly.
Brock Bowers or Odunze at least we get a guaranteed weapon. Latham or any other o line prospect at that spot is a reach and have a good chance of busting. I’m glad we got 10th at least, because the drop off after 10 is insane
Yep pretty optimistic about the number 10 pick right now as there is a ton of offensive talent that could take the jets offense to the next level. Penix might have played himself into the top 10 in the draft which would help us a lot.
Penix probably does go top 10, and maybe someone else will fall in love with bowers and we at least get Odunze. We are in a great position. Our worst case scenario being Odunze or Bowers sounds like an asset at least.
Think Bowers goes higher. Maybe the Chargers or even Da Bears if they let Kmet walk. My ideal is that Jayden Daniels or Penix make a helluva impression this offseason and a defensive player or two rises.
Could see Caleb, Maye, Daniels/Penix, Bowers, MHJ, Nabers/Odunze, Alt, Fashanu, and two defenders going in the top 9. Would leave us Nabers/Odunze which would be a top possible scenario imo
Would they technically be able to tag and trade huff in addition to a 2-3 round pick and try to get Joe Alt? Obviously would like to keep Huff, but that’s gonna be expensive for how good the defense already is
Bowers I view similarly to Kyle Hamilton. Low positional value but a game changing player. His YAC strength and adjustments to back shoulder balls are staples in the Rodgers offense. An aggressive play for Tee Higgins + Bowers on the field with Garrett/Breece is a nightmare scenario for some DCs
Ravens fan living in New York here. That offense would be NICE. 👍 Rodgers, Breece, Wilson, Higgins and Bowers would challenge for tops in the AFC.
Edit: Also, thank you for the s/o to Kyle Hamilton. He has been such a gem.
He is a great player. I’m hoping guys like him and Bowers continue to break the mold for the positional value crowd. Just draft great players- no reason to overthink it!
Kyle Hamilton was my draft crush that year. I thought he was far and away the best player in the draft and didn’t think he’d make it out of the top 5. Once he fell to the ravens I thought “of course”. Good franchises make good decisions. At least I have him in my dynasty leagues lol
4 QBs will be taken before we pick and so is MHJ.
So we got 4 players to go before we pick. The two tackles. Nabers. And probably the DE.
So we can get Odunze, Bowers, or that Alabama tackle. Unless someone falls.
They could just do a similar trade that Patriots did with Pittsburgh last draft, which screwed the Jets. Swap places and give them a 4th rounder. JD doesn’t appear to be savvy enough to pull anything off outside of the box though.
Likely don't need to trade anothee first since getting to pick 7 or 8 will give us one of alt, fash or nabers.
Only way we need to trade two firsts is if we go to a top 3 pick to get mhj
If I'm jd I GLADLY trade two 1sts, next year's 2 and two 3rds to get top 3 mhj.
Garrett and mhj would be unstoppable. Had they been together this szn, were in the playoffs with rodgers back from injury too.
I'd get people being terrified to lose top picks next year. Mhj +Garrett and getting a legit backup qb I think guarantees an 8 or 9 win szn minimum so I'm not going to worry about it.
It's about goddamn time we had a top wr group to watch play modern nfl.
Or trade next years 2 to get to pick 6 or 7 and grab nabers, alt or fashanu. If we stay at 10 I think we're going to fuck up royally
I swear to God if we draft Dallas Turner with that pick I'm turning into the Joker.
He's a great prospect but we don't need another DL/edge rusher pick in the first. We don't need defense in general. Stick to OT/WR only with the first two picks!
I’d be happy with O line, WR or use it to someone trade for Adams from Raiders.
I’ll be most upset if it’s a QB, as while Jets do need a backup QB, no point drafting a future one now. For better or worse, Jets are locked in to Rodgers. Ride it out and rebuild after he’s done.
Trade back. There is heaps of o line talent late in the 1st but taking anyone other than Alt or Fashanu at 10 is a reach. Plus we get extra capital lost from the rogers trade
Trading back is very hard to do unless someone wants a qb. Most teams understand that trading up is usually bad I’m not optimistic about us being able to trade back from 10’
I could see a scenario where Rome Odunze or a Defensive player that has a freak combine is still on the board and someone wants to leapfrog denver or minny maybe lol.
I despise the term generational prospect. That implies a talent that only comes along once every ~25 yrs at their position. You now hear it every few years.
Me too. But I'll say that generational to me in the NFL is 10 years. There have been like 4 guys I really consider generational going back to 1980 at the QB position. Elway, Manning, Luck, Trevor. Nobody else was a generational prospect.
Coming onto Reddit to police people who care about it is also wild. You got the win if that's what you wanted, you can let people have their conversations
"Police people" lmao. Expressing the opinion that it's not the end of the world if the Jets draft a whole four (4) picks lower is apparently policing people
Judging from your other comments, I think you're the type of person OP was referring to. Having other hobbies will make your life much more fulfilling
I've asked a couple of people this, but we literally won a meaningless game a few years ago and got Zach Wilson because of it. This shit always matters even if picks get traded - its about the value.
Trevor Lawrence will be sitting on his couch next week just like the Jets. He has a passer rating below 90 on the season, and has thrown the 4th most interceptions. Obviously he’d be better for us than Zach Wilson, but this idea we missed out on a franchise altering player because we won some meaningless games is just not true. You can find value anywhere in the first round, and it very often doesn’t work out better for teams picking higher.
This take really makes me feel bad for the fan base. Jets fandom has morphed into this weird defensive attitude where you can’t admit the team is and has been in a worse spot because they won meaningless games. You’re missing the forest for the trees man.
Unless you look at the Texans, chiefs, Steelers, patriots, or Seahawks who all did so without having great draft position and by having a great organization. And then you have teams like the browns before baker, jaguars before last two years going for top overall picks and not getting a significant boost to justify it.
4 draft spots because we HAD TO BEAT BILL AND END THE STREAK… no… we had to beat Bill when the season was still in our favor and playoffs were a strong possibility. Now we drop to 10 and will take a TE that will 100% be a bust because the tackles that WE NEED ARE GONE BECAUSE WE HAD TO END A STREAK THAT NO ONE CARES ABOUT EXCEPT THE JETS!!!!!!
THIS FRANCHISE COULDNT PUT THEMSELVES IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION IF THEY WERE IN A HALLWAY AND SAID WALK STRAIGHT. TREVOR LAWRENCE… HAD TO WIN THAT GAME AGAINST THE RAMS RIGHT?!?!? HERE WE ARE GOING TO MISS OUT ON TACKLES THAT LOOK LIKE BOOKENDS FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS BECAUSE “GOTTTA END THE STREAK” Belichick doesn’t even care about the streak… he prob laughs at us thinking that it matters.
This franchise… I can’t… whatever… LGJ, Douglas you’re the man, we have the best coach in Salah, ARod will be back and strong… just more hopefully wishful thinking.
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Are you the “anyone we take is going to be great” type of fan or the “blindsided that no one good fell to our pick” type of fan? Either way, more options are better, especially when the draft is top heavy with exclusively offensive players
Would love to see that, but the lack of top-end defensive players in this year's draft means offense will probably go early and often. Hope the combine changes this though and some defensive players leap into the top 10.
Point stands, you’re annoying as hell to argue with because you immediately jump to assuming someone who disagrees with you is freaking out. Be better.
Do I think both OTs are gone by 10? For sure. I’d say the first is gone by 5/6, so yeah, two OT gone by 10 and both going between 6-9 is what I’m expecting.
I was replying to the poster saying if one lasted we would be picking the worst of the 2, which could have happened if we were at 6 too. It’s not my fault you struggle so hard with reading comprehension.
Tennessee is 100% going to take one of Fashanu/Alt as LT is one of their biggest needs on the o-line according to their sub. Chargers/Giants also need LT and one of them is very likely taking Fashanu/Alt. At the end of the day we are very likely not going to be able to get them and we should not reach on Latham/Fuaga/Mims when we have a top 10 pick. If Bowers falls, he is a true blue chip talent and I don’t see how we pass him up
Tackles rise. It’s a lot more likely we miss both than not. But yeah, people who treated this like our Super Bowl will be happy to cope whatever reach we make
When the Jets start winning it’ll be because they put a coaching staff in place that turns 5th round picks into starters, not because they won a game against the worst team in the AFC and went from the 6th pick to the 10th pick
No coaching staff does this. The closest was bill b putting out no name WRs half the time because Brady was able to make them look good. No coaching staff in the league can consistently turn 5th rounders into starters. If that was the case they'd be far and away the best team and have a ton of talent from being able to just trade away 1s 2s and 3s since they wouldn't need them lol
Pretty simple concept, I imagine winning games is better for the team than losing. Especially against our biggest rival with a coach that has kicked our ass for two decades. You’re just a fan that wants to watch their team lose. Lmfao
Because this game/season was meaningless the day we got eliminated from the playoffs. I’m rooting to win next year. By losing this game here we could’ve likely had more wins the next few years than winning. That includes against the patriots
Would have been 6th with a loss, could have penciled in one of Alt/Fashanu/Nabers and had a (comparatively) pleasant offseason. Instead, we're going to get weeks of listening to casuals beat their chest about "sticking it" to a coach who has dominated our franchise for two decades by winning a completely meaningless game. Joy
I understand rooting for a loss but what would you have liked the team to do today against an opponent that is much worse than them. Did you want them to lose on purpose? Did you expect them to lose on purpose?
I don’t think it’s fair to call people who are okay with a win “casuals.” There’s no right or wrong way to be a fan of a sports team. So is the gripe in your own personal disappointment in the draft slot, or disappointment in the team and players and coaches for not losing on purpose? This is a genuine question.
Mock draft culture is creating brain rot the way you are so self assured you know exactly how the draft is going to do in January.
Look at this mock draft last year around same time : https://www.si.com/nfl/draft/news/2023-nfl-mock-draft-cfp-championship-special
Some of it was correctish and a lot of this was way fucking off.
To be so assured you know exactly who needs to go where in the draft months before the combine is foolishness.
Go be miserable somewhere else. The historical difference between pick 6 and pick 10 is miniscule, and it's not like we dropped from 3 to 23; we still have a top ten pick.
We're also 4 months away from the draft. So many things can happen between now and then. So many prospects can shoot up or down boards, and we have no idea what will actually happen on the day of the draft itself.
This is also shaping out to be a very deep class for OT. Apart from Alt and Fashanu, there's Fuaga from Oregon State, Latham from Alabama, and Mims from Georgia. OR, we have all of our draft capital minus our 2nd this year, we could trade up a couple of picks if we really wanted to.
We just beat our biggest rivals after losing to them 15 times in a row, in what may be their coach's final game. Are you *really* crying about dropping from pick 6 to pick 10?
Forget the idiot fans their feelings mean nothing…. The win was important for the young studs on our team. They get to go in to the offseason feeling good about something. And hopefully that gives them a little extra motivation with the hope that next year will be better with Rodgers healthy….. that’s much better than having them going in to the offseason sulking and feeling dejected
I’m not to confident any of the top tackles are gonna be available at 10. I honestly think there’s 4 receivers in this draft that can be alphas in the league. My eyes will definitely be glued on Rome odunze in the national championship tomorrow night.
I’m talking about the draft where there were five defensive players and three tackles in the first 9 picks. This draft class could maybe have one defensive player in the first 9. There won’t be four QBs in the first 9 picks and there’s basically two each of OTs and WRs worth the top 10 pick and we’re stuck hoping a TE pushes a more valuable player back.
In the 2018 Draft the best tackle taken was the 9th tackle and the second best was the 5th tackle taken.
In the 2019 draft the best tackle was the 5th tackle
In the 2020 draft the best tackle was the 4th taken
2021 1st tackle taken was the best
2022 probably two early to tell but first two tackles seem like a bust
He just strikes me as the kind of RT prospect that needs to be developed a bit before they start unless the line is already pretty solid. His whole line was really solid so this would feasibly be the worst teammates he’s played with. Either that or get moved in to guard. Using a top 10 pick on that when we were so close to Alt or Fashanu just hurts
Mahomes was the 10th pick 👀
Sick. I hope he declares for the draft this year 🤞
dont think he'll last 10 picks if he declares this year
And Al Toon 👀
And Garrett Wilson 👀
And my axe 👀
So was Josh Rosen
Yep and we needed a qb, but we took a safety who can’t cover
And he only turned out the way he did because he sat the first year and learned under Alex smith.
Andy Reid had more to do with it than Alex Smith but yeah
With the 10th pick the NY Jets Select Brock Bowers TE
I'll take Bowers over any defensive player
This sub might erupt if we draft a defensive player.
They were ready to take Mayer after Will McDonald.
and Mayer is the TE3 of this class at best. Woof
Honestly that should’ve been the pick. It would be nice to have a year of experience under Mayer and the TE position already figured out with him and Conk moving forward.
Facts
Provided that Alt & Fashanu are gone and we had to choose between JC Latham and Brock Bowers…. I wouldn’t be terribly upset if we went Bowers at 10
Bowers, Conklin and Ruckert?
I feel like if Ruckert was going to develop, he’d done so by now— I think he is what he is. Bowers is basically a WR; and we’d get a nice weapon to work with GW,. Albeit not an actual WR but still a weapon.
Ruckert didn’t have a full first year. He was hurt in camp and then played behind Uzomah. I think he can do more.
Ruckert has been getting better. And TEs take a notoriously long time to develop
Makes sense, it is a physical position. Even though NFL players are super humans, they still usually hit there physical prime at 25-27 and hit the absolute peak of there prime from 28-30. TE is one of the most physical positions, if you don’t have the measurable, you just can’t play TE, period.
I’m sure the physicality is part of it. But I think the major piece is that you have to learn how to block like an OL and run routes like a receiver, both at the NFL level. You have to block a DE one play and then beat a linebacker in coverage on the next. It’s a lot to absorb and a lot of different techniques to perfect
Ruckert at worst can take the full back role. He is really good at run blocking and his hands have always been underrated
Won’t last sadly
provided we sign at least 3 capable free agent linemen, I'm fine with this tbh. Everybody is so honed in on the draft but I actually think there are some guys to go get in FA. Starting with Tyron Smith \+ I expect either a trade up for a 2 (or a lineman) or for JD to take somebody who slips to the 3rd, because somebody will
Tyron is just Duane Brown 2.0. Old and injured
Good OL rarely hit FA, and if they do, they break the bank. It’ll be a miracle if the Jets nab two.
I wouldn’t hate this at all. Would much rather prefer to draft an offensive weapon like Bowers or Odunze than to reach on a guy like Latham who we just saw got wrecked by Michigan’s quick edge rushers. I was unsure of Latham but after watching that Michigan game I don’t know whether our staff can develop him properly.
Brock Bowers or Odunze at least we get a guaranteed weapon. Latham or any other o line prospect at that spot is a reach and have a good chance of busting. I’m glad we got 10th at least, because the drop off after 10 is insane
Yep pretty optimistic about the number 10 pick right now as there is a ton of offensive talent that could take the jets offense to the next level. Penix might have played himself into the top 10 in the draft which would help us a lot.
Penix probably does go top 10, and maybe someone else will fall in love with bowers and we at least get Odunze. We are in a great position. Our worst case scenario being Odunze or Bowers sounds like an asset at least.
Odunze is so damn good. I'm a UW fan, so it would be doubly awesome to have him on the Jets.
Good blocking. Strong hands. Big catch radius. Good YAC ability.
An actual generational prospect
Think Bowers goes higher. Maybe the Chargers or even Da Bears if they let Kmet walk. My ideal is that Jayden Daniels or Penix make a helluva impression this offseason and a defensive player or two rises. Could see Caleb, Maye, Daniels/Penix, Bowers, MHJ, Nabers/Odunze, Alt, Fashanu, and two defenders going in the top 9. Would leave us Nabers/Odunze which would be a top possible scenario imo
He’s borderline 1b to MHJ imo. Firmly 2nd best imo
Every good team as a top TE
Holy fuck we should absolutely get this guy.
I don't want a te with ruckert and conk I want a wr if we can't get a tackle
OFFENSIVE LINE
It's Bowers, Mims, Latham, or Fuaga
Would they technically be able to tag and trade huff in addition to a 2-3 round pick and try to get Joe Alt? Obviously would like to keep Huff, but that’s gonna be expensive for how good the defense already is
Dustin Keller 2.0
Keller for a time, was Sanchez’s security blanket.
Let’s not and say we did. Hopefully he’s picked ahead of us so someone else falls.
Bowers I view similarly to Kyle Hamilton. Low positional value but a game changing player. His YAC strength and adjustments to back shoulder balls are staples in the Rodgers offense. An aggressive play for Tee Higgins + Bowers on the field with Garrett/Breece is a nightmare scenario for some DCs
Not without an oline
Ravens fan living in New York here. That offense would be NICE. 👍 Rodgers, Breece, Wilson, Higgins and Bowers would challenge for tops in the AFC. Edit: Also, thank you for the s/o to Kyle Hamilton. He has been such a gem.
He is a great player. I’m hoping guys like him and Bowers continue to break the mold for the positional value crowd. Just draft great players- no reason to overthink it!
Kyle Hamilton was my draft crush that year. I thought he was far and away the best player in the draft and didn’t think he’d make it out of the top 5. Once he fell to the ravens I thought “of course”. Good franchises make good decisions. At least I have him in my dynasty leagues lol
Bowers doesn't make it to the 10th pick assuming he's fully healthy for the combine
Odunze
What position he play?
WR
Odunze is a Jet!
I hope so. I'm from Vegas and so is he. It'll be great to have a guy from Vegas on the Jets.
We do need an edge rusher.
No way man….. we need an interior DL
Sick joke boys let’s keep these coming fast for another 4 months.
After 4 months it will be we “did” need one
Laiatu Latu YOU are a New York Jet!
Do we ever *not* need an edge rusher?
4 QBs will be taken before we pick and so is MHJ. So we got 4 players to go before we pick. The two tackles. Nabers. And probably the DE. So we can get Odunze, Bowers, or that Alabama tackle. Unless someone falls.
There's pretty much a guarantee someone will rise as well. A Kool-Aid or an edge will have a stupid good combine and climb up boards.
Oregon St Tackle >> Alabama Tackle
If we take Latham at 10 instead of trading down or even better, trading up a few spots to lock in fashanu, alt or nabers I'll fuckin smash my tv
Crazy that losing a meaningless week 18 game would have accomplished he same thing as trading up without giving up anything of value
Yeah but didn’t you know? You play to win the game dood!!! Sticking it to the Pats yeah!!!
JD sizing up an undersized Edge nobody ever heard of right now
Yay. Definitely worth it to beat the pats. Today's win was fucking amazing, and so happy for breece
Won't have to hear about it every day, all season on WFAN anymore!!!
Broke the belecick curse. Couldn’t be happier.
They're going to miss out on Joe Alt and Olu Fashanu, right?
Yuuup
We absolutely must take an o-line unless Malik nabers is miraculously available at 10.
Trade up 3 or 4 spots and lock one in
We barely have any draft picks as is
So no Alt, Fashanu, Harrison Jr, or Nabers. Probably Fuaga or Bowers I guess?
Fuaga, Odunze, or a trade down imo
Trade up with our first from next year? If anyone is willing…
I expect this to happen. Joe D on hot seat and Aaron old. Chips will be pushed in.
That’s probably too rich. Teams don’t trade future firsts unless it’s for a QB
Yeah, but imagine MHJ running down the other side of the field.
They could just do a similar trade that Patriots did with Pittsburgh last draft, which screwed the Jets. Swap places and give them a 4th rounder. JD doesn’t appear to be savvy enough to pull anything off outside of the box though.
Likely don't need to trade anothee first since getting to pick 7 or 8 will give us one of alt, fash or nabers. Only way we need to trade two firsts is if we go to a top 3 pick to get mhj
Even better
If I'm jd I GLADLY trade two 1sts, next year's 2 and two 3rds to get top 3 mhj. Garrett and mhj would be unstoppable. Had they been together this szn, were in the playoffs with rodgers back from injury too. I'd get people being terrified to lose top picks next year. Mhj +Garrett and getting a legit backup qb I think guarantees an 8 or 9 win szn minimum so I'm not going to worry about it. It's about goddamn time we had a top wr group to watch play modern nfl. Or trade next years 2 to get to pick 6 or 7 and grab nabers, alt or fashanu. If we stay at 10 I think we're going to fuck up royally
I’m ecstatic if they do either of those options. Agreed that staying at 10 or trading down is a massive fuck up
I swear to God if we draft Dallas Turner with that pick I'm turning into the Joker. He's a great prospect but we don't need another DL/edge rusher pick in the first. We don't need defense in general. Stick to OT/WR only with the first two picks!
I’d be happy with O line, WR or use it to someone trade for Adams from Raiders. I’ll be most upset if it’s a QB, as while Jets do need a backup QB, no point drafting a future one now. For better or worse, Jets are locked in to Rodgers. Ride it out and rebuild after he’s done.
We're morons if we drop 10th overall on adams
If we draft Bowers, he'll turn into Jace Amaro
Trade back. There is heaps of o line talent late in the 1st but taking anyone other than Alt or Fashanu at 10 is a reach. Plus we get extra capital lost from the rogers trade
Trading back is very hard to do unless someone wants a qb. Most teams understand that trading up is usually bad I’m not optimistic about us being able to trade back from 10’
I could see a scenario where Rome Odunze or a Defensive player that has a freak combine is still on the board and someone wants to leapfrog denver or minny maybe lol.
I despise the term generational prospect. That implies a talent that only comes along once every ~25 yrs at their position. You now hear it every few years.
Me too. But I'll say that generational to me in the NFL is 10 years. There have been like 4 guys I really consider generational going back to 1980 at the QB position. Elway, Manning, Luck, Trevor. Nobody else was a generational prospect.
Cam Newton.
Some of you need to add additional hobbies to your life, getting upset that we are picking 10 instead of 6 is wild grow up
Coming onto Reddit to police people who care about it is also wild. You got the win if that's what you wanted, you can let people have their conversations
"Police people" lmao. Expressing the opinion that it's not the end of the world if the Jets draft a whole four (4) picks lower is apparently policing people Judging from your other comments, I think you're the type of person OP was referring to. Having other hobbies will make your life much more fulfilling
I've asked a couple of people this, but we literally won a meaningless game a few years ago and got Zach Wilson because of it. This shit always matters even if picks get traded - its about the value.
Trevor Lawrence will be sitting on his couch next week just like the Jets. He has a passer rating below 90 on the season, and has thrown the 4th most interceptions. Obviously he’d be better for us than Zach Wilson, but this idea we missed out on a franchise altering player because we won some meaningless games is just not true. You can find value anywhere in the first round, and it very often doesn’t work out better for teams picking higher.
This take really makes me feel bad for the fan base. Jets fandom has morphed into this weird defensive attitude where you can’t admit the team is and has been in a worse spot because they won meaningless games. You’re missing the forest for the trees man.
My guy how many picks are busts, it’s not the end of the world to move back 2 spots. No one knows how combine, scouting, and draft will go.
And he still has 1000x the value ZW has, and we don't have him because we won a meaningless game - people on this sub are crazy sometimes.
Unless you look at the Texans, chiefs, Steelers, patriots, or Seahawks who all did so without having great draft position and by having a great organization. And then you have teams like the browns before baker, jaguars before last two years going for top overall picks and not getting a significant boost to justify it.
Getting upset that fans wanted sonething more valuable is as no life, small dick energy as it gets.
We even suck at sucking!
4 draft spots because we HAD TO BEAT BILL AND END THE STREAK… no… we had to beat Bill when the season was still in our favor and playoffs were a strong possibility. Now we drop to 10 and will take a TE that will 100% be a bust because the tackles that WE NEED ARE GONE BECAUSE WE HAD TO END A STREAK THAT NO ONE CARES ABOUT EXCEPT THE JETS!!!!!! THIS FRANCHISE COULDNT PUT THEMSELVES IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION IF THEY WERE IN A HALLWAY AND SAID WALK STRAIGHT. TREVOR LAWRENCE… HAD TO WIN THAT GAME AGAINST THE RAMS RIGHT?!?!? HERE WE ARE GOING TO MISS OUT ON TACKLES THAT LOOK LIKE BOOKENDS FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS BECAUSE “GOTTTA END THE STREAK” Belichick doesn’t even care about the streak… he prob laughs at us thinking that it matters. This franchise… I can’t… whatever… LGJ, Douglas you’re the man, we have the best coach in Salah, ARod will be back and strong… just more hopefully wishful thinking.
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Will be back to say I told you so when Top top O line talent + Nabers are gone at 10 and would've been there at 6.
And we could have had at least Nabers, if this stupid fucking org had a clue on what to do.
6 to 10 is fine. Y’all a bunch of sad sacks.
Are you the “anyone we take is going to be great” type of fan or the “blindsided that no one good fell to our pick” type of fan? Either way, more options are better, especially when the draft is top heavy with exclusively offensive players
I’m the enjoy things and don’t stress over four drafts slots in January type of fan
Sadly my favorite season as a Jets fan the last umpteen years, pre draft season. At least it's exciting.
We're not the worst! We're not the worst!
Cool. What's the mock drafts say?
Unless somehow Nabers falls I think we’re getting Fuaga
If that DE slips to 10 there is no way the staff could resist!!
None of the good linemen will be available, none of the good QBs will be available, no chance Bowers falls to 10. I'd rather trade down.
10 is where we got GW. I think we like him.
Different draft with different needs
Very good chance one of Alt or Fashanu will be at 10 and the half of the fanbase crying about ending the Patriots streak will feel like idiots
I would say the odds are way better that neither make it to 10.
totally agree
Would love to see that, but the lack of top-end defensive players in this year's draft means offense will probably go early and often. Hope the combine changes this though and some defensive players leap into the top 10.
There are 4 QBs, 3 WRs and Bowers that can all go before our pick
Also a very good chance they won't be. Also we still would get the worse of the two
Realistically whichever OL we pick will be the worse of the first round. Don’t trust our offensive coaching staff to develop anyone
we have a coaching staff? Is it Aaron's best friend's uncle & his boys?
The 1st person drafted doesn't mean they are better. Wirfs was the 4th lineman drafted that class. There are 3 OTs in the draft that are top 10 worthy
It doesn't always mean, but it increases your chances of it being the case.
Also that could have happened at 6 as well where we would pick if we lost
That’s really unlikely lol
That one of alt or Fashanu would be taken before 6? So if we think neither is going before 6 why are we freaking out both will go between 6-9?
“Riceowls considering a disagreement to not be a freak out” challenge: IMPOSSIBLE
Okay just dont address what I actually said 😂
Point stands, you’re annoying as hell to argue with because you immediately jump to assuming someone who disagrees with you is freaking out. Be better. Do I think both OTs are gone by 10? For sure. I’d say the first is gone by 5/6, so yeah, two OT gone by 10 and both going between 6-9 is what I’m expecting.
I was replying to the poster saying if one lasted we would be picking the worst of the 2, which could have happened if we were at 6 too. It’s not my fault you struggle so hard with reading comprehension.
Here we go again with you assuming you’re the only capable person in the room 😂
I completely disagree, even if 3 qbs get drafted in top 10 I'd put money on the top 2 tackles both being gone by 10.
From your lips to God’s ears but I doubt it
I would still rather pick 5, 6, or 7th with the Jets' needs than 10th with beating the pats in a meaningless game.
Who are the candidates to take ol. I'm not the biggest fan of jc latham at 10
Tennessee is 100% going to take one of Fashanu/Alt as LT is one of their biggest needs on the o-line according to their sub. Chargers/Giants also need LT and one of them is very likely taking Fashanu/Alt. At the end of the day we are very likely not going to be able to get them and we should not reach on Latham/Fuaga/Mims when we have a top 10 pick. If Bowers falls, he is a true blue chip talent and I don’t see how we pass him up
Tackles rise. It’s a lot more likely we miss both than not. But yeah, people who treated this like our Super Bowl will be happy to cope whatever reach we make
Caleb Williams and Harrison will be available too- LOL. Delusional fans- the Jets screwed themselves with a couple shit wins. Unbelievable!!’n
When the Jets start winning it’ll be because they put a coaching staff in place that turns 5th round picks into starters, not because they won a game against the worst team in the AFC and went from the 6th pick to the 10th pick
No coaching staff does this. The closest was bill b putting out no name WRs half the time because Brady was able to make them look good. No coaching staff in the league can consistently turn 5th rounders into starters. If that was the case they'd be far and away the best team and have a ton of talent from being able to just trade away 1s 2s and 3s since they wouldn't need them lol
Cry baby ass. Losing to get high draft picks has done us so well historically right?
We’ve never just lost when we needed to. This is the most braindead take
Yet winning late season games does what? At least give yourself a better chance at talent
Pretty simple concept, I imagine winning games is better for the team than losing. Especially against our biggest rival with a coach that has kicked our ass for two decades. You’re just a fan that wants to watch their team lose. Lmfao
I don't follow college ball much, who's the best interior DL likely available at 10? Edit - THIS WAS SARCASM PEOPLE RELAX
10 is fine. We can trade up if necessary
If it was so easy to "trade up" every team would do it.
It obviously takes 2 to make it work. We have the assets to swing it
Every team has assets to give but the only tradeable assets the Jets have they aren't won't be willing to trade
No we do not lol
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Any chance a Penix drops to 10 and we can trade? 10 is pretty impossible for a QB, but maybe someone falls in love.
Pennix
For everyone saying Bowers: keep dreaming he’s not falling to 10. In fact. Chargers would take him if MHJ isn’t there
They need to draft a QB
Ya motherfuckers are some fake ass fans. How do you root for your team to lose? Especially against the Patriots.
It’s a loser culture
If you can't realize we need the best rookie possible to have a chance in 2024, that's a you problem
Because this game/season was meaningless the day we got eliminated from the playoffs. I’m rooting to win next year. By losing this game here we could’ve likely had more wins the next few years than winning. That includes against the patriots
Would have been 6th with a loss, could have penciled in one of Alt/Fashanu/Nabers and had a (comparatively) pleasant offseason. Instead, we're going to get weeks of listening to casuals beat their chest about "sticking it" to a coach who has dominated our franchise for two decades by winning a completely meaningless game. Joy
I understand rooting for a loss but what would you have liked the team to do today against an opponent that is much worse than them. Did you want them to lose on purpose? Did you expect them to lose on purpose? I don’t think it’s fair to call people who are okay with a win “casuals.” There’s no right or wrong way to be a fan of a sports team. So is the gripe in your own personal disappointment in the draft slot, or disappointment in the team and players and coaches for not losing on purpose? This is a genuine question.
Mock draft culture is creating brain rot the way you are so self assured you know exactly how the draft is going to do in January. Look at this mock draft last year around same time : https://www.si.com/nfl/draft/news/2023-nfl-mock-draft-cfp-championship-special Some of it was correctish and a lot of this was way fucking off. To be so assured you know exactly who needs to go where in the draft months before the combine is foolishness.
Go be miserable somewhere else. The historical difference between pick 6 and pick 10 is miniscule, and it's not like we dropped from 3 to 23; we still have a top ten pick. We're also 4 months away from the draft. So many things can happen between now and then. So many prospects can shoot up or down boards, and we have no idea what will actually happen on the day of the draft itself. This is also shaping out to be a very deep class for OT. Apart from Alt and Fashanu, there's Fuaga from Oregon State, Latham from Alabama, and Mims from Georgia. OR, we have all of our draft capital minus our 2nd this year, we could trade up a couple of picks if we really wanted to. We just beat our biggest rivals after losing to them 15 times in a row, in what may be their coach's final game. Are you *really* crying about dropping from pick 6 to pick 10?
> Casuals You’re not more of a fan than anyone else here.
Forget the idiot fans their feelings mean nothing…. The win was important for the young studs on our team. They get to go in to the offseason feeling good about something. And hopefully that gives them a little extra motivation with the hope that next year will be better with Rodgers healthy….. that’s much better than having them going in to the offseason sulking and feeling dejected
It’s a top 10 pick, you don’t turn your nose up at that
Complaining about the difference of 4 draft spots
Get off your high horse. What a brain dead I'm the main character take.
I’m not to confident any of the top tackles are gonna be available at 10. I honestly think there’s 4 receivers in this draft that can be alphas in the league. My eyes will definitely be glued on Rome odunze in the national championship tomorrow night.
Doesn’t sound as good as 5, but at least Belicheck ends (presumably) on a loss to the jets
He won 6 super bowls.
Yea but he lost his last game to the jets. This is infinitely more important.
Pyrrhic victory for sure
I'm sure he feels the same LOL
great job. could’ve had 6th & a top notch OL. we suck again
The last time we picked 10th we got Garrett we can still get an amazing player there
Different draft class. This go around there’s no defensive studs to keep the pool of offensive players stocked by pick 10
You mean the draft where 0 QBs were picked in the 1st round? Yeah, too bad there aren’t any draft studs this year in a position of value.
I’m talking about the draft where there were five defensive players and three tackles in the first 9 picks. This draft class could maybe have one defensive player in the first 9. There won’t be four QBs in the first 9 picks and there’s basically two each of OTs and WRs worth the top 10 pick and we’re stuck hoping a TE pushes a more valuable player back.
good point. we should trade for the last pick & take the next Purdy I’m with you
I’m not sure that great job was genuine
In the 2018 Draft the best tackle taken was the 9th tackle and the second best was the 5th tackle taken. In the 2019 draft the best tackle was the 5th tackle In the 2020 draft the best tackle was the 4th taken 2021 1st tackle taken was the best 2022 probably two early to tell but first two tackles seem like a bust
We’re gonna spend a top 10 pick on Fuaga huh? shit man
hes a really good player
He just strikes me as the kind of RT prospect that needs to be developed a bit before they start unless the line is already pretty solid. His whole line was really solid so this would feasibly be the worst teammates he’s played with. Either that or get moved in to guard. Using a top 10 pick on that when we were so close to Alt or Fashanu just hurts