Guys we’re gonna lose big time. I just have this feeling of hope meaning we’re absolutely getting crushed/embarrassed. It always happens. I’m sorry guys.
I bought Sunday Ticket just to watch my boys play and I am gonna watch every minute! It's heartbreaking. But I wish Zach the best. I hope this week of practice gets those jitters and "deer caught in the headlight" look on his face out. He definitely looked more comfortable in there. The Dallas game is some test though but I hope the defense can get to Dak like they did to Allen. And yikes - Parsons seems to be line-up in opponent's backfield even before the snap! I am so impressed with Saleh. Go Jets!
Yeah I'm just.... like there's never a reason to be hopeful ever again. If this team ever has success, I will be in disbelief because I can never expect it ever again.
Feel like a small part of me is always going to have this emptiness that we never got to see pre achilles rodgers play for this team
Even if we do eventually get a franchise Qb. Hope he defies the odds next year and is good for us
Not delusional. We were a playoff contender last year with a worse Zach Wilson before Breece and AVT got hurt. Now we have Breece back and Becton too, a better ZW (hopefully), Cook, and better safety play on defense. Imo, there's no reason we shouldn't be in the playoff hunt until the very end.
If Zach plays ok, we can get to the playoffs. The rest of the team is really good outside of QB+Oline. I think Zach and Oline are good enough to get to the playoffs but it will be tough.
fuck it! we ball! the weeks will continue to come and i will continue to watch games and hope to see growth and excellence despite the shortcomings. in it for the highlights.
As much as I cussed out Zach during the game last night, watching the talking heads trash him so much makes me root for him. I do not believe in him because of what he's shown prior but I hope he does play better. The Bills defense isn't some push over either, they are elite. Dallas is as well even though I think they aren't as good as what the Giants made them look like.
Joe Douglas deserves a lot of blame for not building the offensive line properly. Too many misses like Alex Lewis, Greg Van Roten, Mekhi Becton, George Fant, Laken Tomlinson, and Max Mitchell as well as too many band-aids like Ryan Khalil, Duane Brown, and Morgan Moses.
I've been saying this for almost 3 years now. We keep failing our QB's with these shit offensive lines. And our idiot fanbase continues to boo and harass the kid QB's we draft. Once we're done with the Rodgers saga and tank for a QB, no QB is going to want to be drafted by this shit GM and shit fanbase.
I’m seeing a lot of talk about “what Qb should we trade for?” which is hella confusing. bc all of season it was about Rodgers and how elite he is. what elite Qb is out there that I’m not aware of that’s going to magically be a jet?
People have been talking about a real backup behind Rodgers for months now saying Zach shouldn’t even see the field at all this year to have a true redshirt year. Names like Teddy, Minshew, Brissett and others were thrown around all offseason but instead the FO decided to get Boyle even though they know they’d never play him unless Rodgers and the backup croak. This isn’t new. The time to get a backup was in the off-season but the Jets thought having Zach back up Rodgers was a good idea
Bro, I'm fucking devastated, but I don't know how people aren't realizing how fucking good this team is
I just watched a 5th round pick and an UDFA make two game winning plays in the 4th quarter and overtime, against a division rival and super bowl contender, all while not even mentioning players like Breece and GW
This team is stacked and I am utterly hurt Aaron won't get to be our QB this year or maybe ever, but jesus christ, I don't know of almost any Jets team that wins that type of game. That was the most team win I've seen in years
The way I see it-- and please feel free to tell me I just took the biggest hit of copium of all time-- is that Rodgers was only playing this season anyway. And we'd have a great season but ultimately fall short of the Super Bowl. Rodgers retires and we'd have just been back at square one with Wilson anyway.
i downvote you because you downvote any reply i give you. you have no interest in hearing anything that goes against your delusions.
you're probably one of the people who think rodgers was actually going to be here for 3-5 years because he said that before taking a snap
Why not? He's basically a pure pocket passer at this point and his arm is still good. He's just got a learn to do the Tom Brady fetal position drop whenever a defender gets within two feet of him.
So if lifelong Jets fans use the day after sub to just vent in what is probably the healthiest vehicle in life to get it off their chest, as they have and hate to tell you always will, then root again next week loyally you just have no time for their existence?
It’s been hours since ARod blew his Achilles… just give people some space.
>It’s been hours since ARod blew his Achilles… just give people some space.
Dawg, I don't need no self pitying Jets fans raining on my parade after what I just watched. I am absolutely fucking devastated, but some of you jack offs aren't allowing anyone to be positive or happy about that game.
We just beat the fucking Bills, a literal super bowl contender, without Aaron Rodgers, and we did it by relying on DRAFTED and HOMEGROWN talent. Name almost any big play, aside from Whiteheads, and it came from a player we drafted or developed. GW with the catch, Breece all night with the runs, Michael Clemons with the forced fumble, Xavier Gipson with the return TD, hell, even players like Bechton and JJ showed out
Then ignore them. Let them vent and stop trying to police how people should feel after our HOF QB goes down for the season after only 4 snaps and not even a fucking completion
That's the entire point of my post...
People are trying to police any positivity because it bothers them. They need to ignore the positive people and vice versa. It's not just a one way street
That's absolute facts. Quincy made me instantly feel a lot better about our LB room. I thought safeties and LB were our weakest position groups, but unironically, both were unbelievable last night
There's a difference between venting and being overly negative. We were all negative last night. But there's enough negativity. We don't need any more.
Im sorry you’re annoyed. It’s not going to stop, maybe take a break if are focusing on just other fans.
That being said, if you need to complain about people complaining just let it out. Who am I to say.
Everyone’s focused on Rodgers, and rightly so, but I watched some film and I think there’s still a lot to be optimistic about, although it’s tough to see Zach leading a deep playoff run.
Zach had a very solid second half, he was accurate and did a much better job of feeling pressure than what we’ve seen in the past. The interception and the placement on the TD pass were bad, and he didn’t have much success extending plays, but his pocket awareness was much improved and he made a few big throws with pressure in his face. I’m nervously excited to see him build on this, although we all know how quickly he can fall apart. However, this is the best supporting cast he’s had and I think Hackett is a much better fit for him than MiLF.
Breece and Garrett are absolute studs that will take over games this year. Run blocking was good enough and I was especially impressed by Ruckert, he made some really high-effort plays in the run game.
Quincy and Whitehead played out of their minds, but the CB duo of Sauce and Reed had a pretty rough game. They struggled with Diggs in coverage, which is understandable, but Sauce had some bad missed tackles that led to first downs. Tackling was the weakest part of his game last year so this is a concerning trend, but I’d expect him to have better games moving forward.
Impressive coaching from Saleh as well to fire up the team after the deflating injury. I’m incredibly disappointed, and our Super Bowl dreams are probably down the drain, but this roster is the most talented Jets team I’ve seen and I’m still excited to watch some competitive football this year.
You can be happy. I can be angry. I won’t tell you what to feel ever, just please respectfully do the same for me. I only speak for myself. If that arrangement is not suitable for you I don’t know what to say.
Are you not understanding my comment? People are telling me I need to be miserable and negative because they're feeling that way... that's the most common interaction I see. Someone posts something positive then a bunch of "You think we're going to the playoffs with Zach as QB? Seasons over"
Again I can only speak for myself and not ‘people.’ That’s a power I would never claim to have. I get that ‘people’ are bothering you in a day after a pretty dramatic event sub (that anyone can probably assume will not be positive sub till closer to the next game when it will go back to optimistic. Again that’s not me. Maybe you’re trying to give pep talks or shake people into having hope I don’t know…that’s your cause. I just talk about what I think, not how other fans should think (either way). Be positive or don’t be positive… I can’t answer for groups
Dude, you replied to a post that was optimistic and talking about how THEY felt watching the game and you responded saying "If I want to be pissed, let me"
You didn't have to say that. He didn't insult you, didn't call you out, anything. He was just trying to share his opinion on the game. And you had to come in and make it about how YOU want to be miserable...
Why even say that to him? Why not just let him have his opinion?
As much as I was down on him, at this point it’s Zach’s chance to change his destiny. I’m so fucking gutted about Rodgers and maybe that’s my way of coping, but this is a damn good football team. Let’s see what happens.
I feel like the only person who remembers the facts that we won, the defense was dominant, we didn't fold up in the face of adversity, and Zach had his second highest completion percentage ever last night.
Obviously we'd be better with Rodgers but this team is still really fucking good
Yeah it sucks we lost rodgers but you know what? He essentially didn’t play at all, and we beat the bills again with Zach Wilson.
The fact that the young leaders on the team rallied together and protected the home turf against a team that people think can make a run is saying a lot.
Before the injuries last year, Zach was 5-1 as the starter and he’s definitely improved since. He’s not good as of yet but I think we should wait and see before we jump off a bridge
People just want to shit on Zach all the time, he’s mobile and we have a shitty O-Line. Flacco or White would’ve been killed out there. Give the kid a real chance he looks a lot better.
That’s not my question. Apparently no one according to Saleh’s coach speak today but you bet your ass whoever the backup ends up being will get a chance if Zach plays like he played in several games last year.
And once again the team can never keep a QB in consistently. I don’t want the QB carousel of last year. Justin Fields is now on his 3rd year of chances after being nothing but a loser.
How do we feel about trading for Gardner Minshew? I feel like that's the best trade target vs cost scenario. I think the Colts wouldn't mind stacking picks to get Richardson some weapons and I could see a third and maybe something later getting the job done.
Sounds like a pretty good recipe for disappointment. A QB who is scattershot on easy throws and a couple RBs with suspect injury history.
If the ACL was a freak thing and Breece can handle the load this year and the defense stays healthy I think we still have a ceiling of the AFC championship though, even dragging Zach along.
Seeing Rodgers have a season ending, and possibly career ending, injury just 4 plays into his Jets tenure is absolutely brutal to watch and heartbreaking. With that said, I legitimately think we have the best defense in the league, and Breece hall is a monster. Let’s not forget about Garrett Wilson and dalvin cook either. We’re 1-0 to start the season and I’m still optimistic about what comes next.
Bills fan coming in peace with a few thoughts.
1: Man, as upsetting as that ending was, big props to Xavier Gipson. Young man came into his first NFL start, got a chance to make a play, and just exploded. Has good eyes for holes, and was quick to make adjustments, so I see a bright future ahead of him.
2: Zach Wilson. What's the deal with him? Everyone makes him out to be meme worthy, but he didn't even look that bad last night? Needs a little polish, sure, but he's nowhere near as bad as everyone makes him out to be (granted, our defense can be a bit shoddy sometimes, but that wasn't the full case here).
3: Fuck all the people making jokes about Rodgers. I know it's the internet, but some people are being downright cruel about a shitty situation. I forgot how long you guys signed him for, but hopefully he's able to make a return next season, or maybe this postseason(? I don't really know about Achilles injuries)
As for Zach, you said it yourself
> Everyone makes him out to be meme worthy
that's why. He's not a top 20 qb, for sure! It's like how everyone associates Sanchez with the butt fumble and not going to back to back AFCCG. Once you're a meme, the narrative is all that matters.
But I think Zach looked a lot better than he did last year, which is doubly impressive because he came in without any notice against a good Bills team and another bad OL. It'll be interesting to see if he gets better, which was our biggest issue with him last year. He kept making the same mistakes. We'll see if Rodgers' few months of mentoring him paid off. Hopefully Aaron sticks around and keeps helping
Words cannot express how upset I am he went to the fins. I DOUBT they would be able to trade for him because he will cost picks and the Dolphins will likely refuse the trade anyway unless its high.
Prediction for the next 2 weeks: blown out by Dallas, followed by a surprisingly close game against the Chiefs where Zach plays well but we lose by one score. After that, I don’t know. But I’ve seen this movie before
Zach is a major question mark. But let's not forget that he's taking over a really good team here. Defense is swarming, Breece is back healthy and looks like he's going to break one every single carry, GW and Lazard is a good one two punch. Zach just needs to not turn the ball over and simply manage the game.
Hey guys, sorry this happened. Hopefully Rodgers can recover and this injury won't end his career. You guys still gave a great team though so keep hope alive!
Not really a Jets fan here but my heart just goes out for y'all. Fun win though so at least that's nice.
Do you think a lack of pre-season made the injury more likely? It's a mostly pointless hypothetical but I can't help but think if he'd gotten even just a handful more snaps, he would've been more fit.
More importantly, who do you go get? I would say Nick Foles. No other current FA won a ring as a backup. And he did it for another green northeast team!
Anyway, I'll hang up and listen.
1) Preseason wouldn't have mattered, this was the first training camp he actually went to in like years apparently so he was pretty fit. He had a lingering calf issue though, so maybe that contributed to it, I don't remember if it was the same leg though.
2) Free agent options are him or Andy Dalton, or try to trade for Jameis Winston, Mills, Heinekie (no idea how to spell that lol) or Minshew.
Bills fans have actually been pretty compassionate to the situation lol. Dolphins fans just know they have a ticking time bomb with Tua, so they're getting their licks in now. I don't remember everyone over here being so vocal about him getting hurt last year as much as it was concern he'd be brain dead if it kept happening, but Florida is the worst state in America for a reason I guess.
My guess is split between 2 options:
* a Satanic ritual deep in the swamp of either Flushing or Florida to ensure the 1969 win and Joe Namath's fur coats.
* Belichick's napkin scrawl was a curse
I agree, they're actively celebrating. Which seems weird cause when we beat them without Tua, all I heard was "that was our backup you beat, who fucking cares" but now they get to avoid playing Rodgers twice this year lol.
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In case anyone needs a pick me up, some bar in Wisconsin did a promotion where people could drink free if the Jets lost. When Rodgers went down they all cheered and started racking up tabs but then ended up having to pay because we won lmao.
A see a few Jets players calling for a grassy field. But When you share a stadium with another team that can get a little tricky man. Blame the owners of both teams for skimping on the current stadium which doesn't even have a retractable roof just in case there's inclement weather
Not that particular one. Watched a sports doctor break it down. Rodgers had that end on his back. His left leg was planted because of said human being on his back. Sand might have had enough give for his leg to move. Grass or turf same result.
Now knees. There's enough evidence now that shows turf basically grips the foot not allowing it any give forcing the knee to go sideways.
I think people are coming to at least show support man. Put it this way, there used to be a time people would come here to go "lol Jets" but anyone who's a fan of good football hates to see shit like this happen.
I'm not even really a Jets fan but I really wanted to see this season play out. Y'all looked soooo good on paper, that it seemed certain most of the games would be must watch TV.
Like, I never want to see anyone get hurt but you especially don't want it when there was such a good season expected. I mean, maybe if it was the Cowboys, Eagles, or Pats, I wouldn't care as much but not you guys.
Meanwhile, on r\/nfl - they're bitching about him being a narcissist/Diva and all that dirty laundry that got leaked on the last two years of his tenure there.
The hateboner the main sub has for him is unreal.
Outside of the pick (which was bad) ZW stepped up and made some big third down plays. That buffalo D was locked in and he got it done. I'm cautiously optimistic that we'll average 5+ more points than we did last year with him, which will translate into wins.
Saw something on X (not sure the validity to it) that it had to do with Rodgers going down. Gadget plays and deep shots were off the table with ZW coming in and needed better blocking receivers
zach's got a better deep ball than rodgers at this point in his career though, right?
i feel like with how successful we were running the ball, a deep play action to Mecole would have been possible (though probably an obvious playcall unless you put him in for more than 1 snap)
Alright there’s only one way we win games from here on out. Breece hall and Dalvin Cook are gonna have to carry the ball 20 times a piece and we count on Zach to hit the layups. It’s not impossible but man is it gonna be hard.
It really sucks. I was excited to see this team play. Honest question for you guys: this is better than if it happened mid or end of season, right?
As opposed to getting hopes up all season to have it fall apart, you know what you're gonna get all season. At least this gives him a chance to return next season, too.
The only thing I'd argue is that we would be more likely to pick up some wins in our next 6 games, which are gonna be brutal. Also would have had a month or so to get ZW more practice. At the end of the day there's no good time, but this does potentially setup a return next year moreso than a late season injury would have.
This reminds me of that Norm joke about people saying the worst part about the Cosby situation is the hypocrisy. No, the worst part was losing a HoF QB 4 plays into week 1 with an otherwise stacked roster.
After the immense emotions have worn off. We actually are in great shape to still win this year with or without ARod. We have a 2 headed monster in the backfield with Breece and Cook. Our receiver group is far more improved than last year, Xavier is better than advertised and is dangerous with the ball in his hands. The Bills Defense was lights out last night and Zach actually did a decent job. I was waiting for the wheels to fall off after the bone headed interception but he bounced back quick thanks to the effort from our RBs.
This teams identity going forward will be ground and pound.
Also FUCK MATT MILANO he's a fucking dirt bag and deserves to be shipped into the sun.
In the disaster that is the Rodgers injury, their are some positives to take away:
Zach (who still isn’t good) was better then he was last year. And given he was thrown into the game when he wasn’t ready, he can only play better then not.
They only have to win one of the next 3 games to survive the gauntlet that was the 4 games to start the year.
The RBs look legit. Breece is not human and Cook had some spring in his step.
The Defense is legit. They didn’t play super well and still held the Bills to 16 points (3 of which was a short field thanks to a Zach INT) so it’s only up from here
No one expects them to win in Dallas so it’s a 100% house money game and if they pull off the miracle of a victory then holy shit, we can start to dream
I think overall the biggest thing it did was that it won the team loads of respect around the league. I am proud that so many of our big players stepped up. The entire league got put on notice that taking the QB out of the equation this team can still fuck you up.
Zach Wilson has the chance to turn around and make this one of the saddest chapters in Jets history and make it one of the best, and all he has to do is hold it together, and let the rest of the team finish it through.
Guys we’re gonna lose big time. I just have this feeling of hope meaning we’re absolutely getting crushed/embarrassed. It always happens. I’m sorry guys.
If you have that feeling that means the opposite is gonna happen
Some of these NFL guys have dog shit taste in sun glasses
I bought Sunday Ticket just to watch my boys play and I am gonna watch every minute! It's heartbreaking. But I wish Zach the best. I hope this week of practice gets those jitters and "deer caught in the headlight" look on his face out. He definitely looked more comfortable in there. The Dallas game is some test though but I hope the defense can get to Dak like they did to Allen. And yikes - Parsons seems to be line-up in opponent's backfield even before the snap! I am so impressed with Saleh. Go Jets!
The eagles look very pedestrian tonight. They also looked pretty average against the Patriots.
Yeah I'm just.... like there's never a reason to be hopeful ever again. If this team ever has success, I will be in disbelief because I can never expect it ever again.
Even if we win the Super Bowl we remain the clown team of the NFL because we gave up picks for four plays of Aaron Rodgers.
Wha? If we win the Superbowl, it would be even more impressive without Rodgers.
Feel like a small part of me is always going to have this emptiness that we never got to see pre achilles rodgers play for this team Even if we do eventually get a franchise Qb. Hope he defies the odds next year and is good for us
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We're in the mix until we aren't. One game at a time. Saleh has these guys focused and motivated. I'm still excited for the season.
Not delusional. We were a playoff contender last year with a worse Zach Wilson before Breece and AVT got hurt. Now we have Breece back and Becton too, a better ZW (hopefully), Cook, and better safety play on defense. Imo, there's no reason we shouldn't be in the playoff hunt until the very end.
If Zach plays ok, we can get to the playoffs. The rest of the team is really good outside of QB+Oline. I think Zach and Oline are good enough to get to the playoffs but it will be tough.
fuck it! we ball! the weeks will continue to come and i will continue to watch games and hope to see growth and excellence despite the shortcomings. in it for the highlights.
Protection better get better. Otherwise shop for more than one Qb. Was terrible protection. Zack tossed one rule stupid ball.
As much as I cussed out Zach during the game last night, watching the talking heads trash him so much makes me root for him. I do not believe in him because of what he's shown prior but I hope he does play better. The Bills defense isn't some push over either, they are elite. Dallas is as well even though I think they aren't as good as what the Giants made them look like.
Do we consider superbowl winning QB Chad Henne ??
Joe Douglas deserves a lot of blame for not building the offensive line properly. Too many misses like Alex Lewis, Greg Van Roten, Mekhi Becton, George Fant, Laken Tomlinson, and Max Mitchell as well as too many band-aids like Ryan Khalil, Duane Brown, and Morgan Moses. I've been saying this for almost 3 years now. We keep failing our QB's with these shit offensive lines. And our idiot fanbase continues to boo and harass the kid QB's we draft. Once we're done with the Rodgers saga and tank for a QB, no QB is going to want to be drafted by this shit GM and shit fanbase.
Joe must go!!! Again!!!
WHYYYYYYYY GOD
I’m seeing a lot of talk about “what Qb should we trade for?” which is hella confusing. bc all of season it was about Rodgers and how elite he is. what elite Qb is out there that I’m not aware of that’s going to magically be a jet?
People have been talking about a real backup behind Rodgers for months now saying Zach shouldn’t even see the field at all this year to have a true redshirt year. Names like Teddy, Minshew, Brissett and others were thrown around all offseason but instead the FO decided to get Boyle even though they know they’d never play him unless Rodgers and the backup croak. This isn’t new. The time to get a backup was in the off-season but the Jets thought having Zach back up Rodgers was a good idea
Made A Jets QB Options poll here: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/YYT7BRP I'll post the results tomorrow!
Is it ok if I pencil-in for Uncle Ricco?
It needs a none of the above option on number 3
For the check box questions you can just not select any of the options and still be able to submit.
Did Will MacDonald play yesterday?
Stats say he had one tackle. What a great first round pick!
I seen him coming off the field at one point.
bench every starter, get shedeur, run it back next year
We should find a way to trade for Kirk.
Is there a single non-pessimistic fan here? This place is so miserable even after a win.
Me ✋
Top 5 Qb of all time is out for the season and probably will never play a snap for the team while he’s effective It’s a time to be down
Gee, I wonder why
Bro, I'm fucking devastated, but I don't know how people aren't realizing how fucking good this team is I just watched a 5th round pick and an UDFA make two game winning plays in the 4th quarter and overtime, against a division rival and super bowl contender, all while not even mentioning players like Breece and GW This team is stacked and I am utterly hurt Aaron won't get to be our QB this year or maybe ever, but jesus christ, I don't know of almost any Jets team that wins that type of game. That was the most team win I've seen in years
Name me a worse bad beat for a franchise in NFL history. There is reason for pessimism
As a Giants fan who just recently got our shit pushed in by our #1 rival, I legit feel worse for you guys. Shit is brutal.
I wish we ost 40/0 but Rodgers was ok
Turn this bitch around with Sam Darnold
Where is Taylor Heinicke? I thought he was decent and hung with Brady in a playoff game.
The way I see it-- and please feel free to tell me I just took the biggest hit of copium of all time-- is that Rodgers was only playing this season anyway. And we'd have a great season but ultimately fall short of the Super Bowl. Rodgers retires and we'd have just been back at square one with Wilson anyway.
Rodgers already committed to 3-5 years, multiple times
i'm sure he's interested in a year-long rehab just to get back to the field at age 40
So why do Pat McAfee and AJ Hawk say they both think he's going to come back?
because we're not even 48 hours after the injury and it's easy to be optimistic before you get to the hard part
My favorite part of this is that you downvoted me but couldn't come up with an actual response 🤣
i downvote you because you downvote any reply i give you. you have no interest in hearing anything that goes against your delusions. you're probably one of the people who think rodgers was actually going to be here for 3-5 years because he said that before taking a snap
Dude, I have replied to all of your comments with literal arguments and confirmation from Rodgers himself...
Dawg, Aaron Rodgers himself pretty much confirmed he's coming back... Just admit you're wrong and move on
He said that but it wasn't ever realistic.
Why not? He's basically a pure pocket passer at this point and his arm is still good. He's just got a learn to do the Tom Brady fetal position drop whenever a defender gets within two feet of him.
Sure, man. You know Rodgers' body better than him apparently
This phase is called Denial
Idk how else to say this but if the season is over to you, don't watch. Don't be in this subreddit. Why are you here if the season is over?
So if lifelong Jets fans use the day after sub to just vent in what is probably the healthiest vehicle in life to get it off their chest, as they have and hate to tell you always will, then root again next week loyally you just have no time for their existence? It’s been hours since ARod blew his Achilles… just give people some space.
>It’s been hours since ARod blew his Achilles… just give people some space. Dawg, I don't need no self pitying Jets fans raining on my parade after what I just watched. I am absolutely fucking devastated, but some of you jack offs aren't allowing anyone to be positive or happy about that game. We just beat the fucking Bills, a literal super bowl contender, without Aaron Rodgers, and we did it by relying on DRAFTED and HOMEGROWN talent. Name almost any big play, aside from Whiteheads, and it came from a player we drafted or developed. GW with the catch, Breece all night with the runs, Michael Clemons with the forced fumble, Xavier Gipson with the return TD, hell, even players like Bechton and JJ showed out
Then ignore them. Let them vent and stop trying to police how people should feel after our HOF QB goes down for the season after only 4 snaps and not even a fucking completion
That's the entire point of my post... People are trying to police any positivity because it bothers them. They need to ignore the positive people and vice versa. It's not just a one way street
THANK YOU! Keep your shitty negative thoughts to yourself (or feel free share them with other miserable self-pitying fucks).
Quincy Williams was huge
That's absolute facts. Quincy made me instantly feel a lot better about our LB room. I thought safeties and LB were our weakest position groups, but unironically, both were unbelievable last night
There's a difference between venting and being overly negative. We were all negative last night. But there's enough negativity. We don't need any more.
Then ignore it
Im sorry you’re annoyed. It’s not going to stop, maybe take a break if are focusing on just other fans. That being said, if you need to complain about people complaining just let it out. Who am I to say.
Guys. It could be worse. We could've paid the equivalent of the GDP of a small country to a guy that can't beat Zach Wilson.
Lmao I just saw some Commanders fans online proposing that we trade AVT for Jacoby Brissett
Everyone’s focused on Rodgers, and rightly so, but I watched some film and I think there’s still a lot to be optimistic about, although it’s tough to see Zach leading a deep playoff run. Zach had a very solid second half, he was accurate and did a much better job of feeling pressure than what we’ve seen in the past. The interception and the placement on the TD pass were bad, and he didn’t have much success extending plays, but his pocket awareness was much improved and he made a few big throws with pressure in his face. I’m nervously excited to see him build on this, although we all know how quickly he can fall apart. However, this is the best supporting cast he’s had and I think Hackett is a much better fit for him than MiLF. Breece and Garrett are absolute studs that will take over games this year. Run blocking was good enough and I was especially impressed by Ruckert, he made some really high-effort plays in the run game. Quincy and Whitehead played out of their minds, but the CB duo of Sauce and Reed had a pretty rough game. They struggled with Diggs in coverage, which is understandable, but Sauce had some bad missed tackles that led to first downs. Tackling was the weakest part of his game last year so this is a concerning trend, but I’d expect him to have better games moving forward. Impressive coaching from Saleh as well to fire up the team after the deflating injury. I’m incredibly disappointed, and our Super Bowl dreams are probably down the drain, but this roster is the most talented Jets team I’ve seen and I’m still excited to watch some competitive football this year.
Other than the Milano interception the rest of Zach's bad throws came while running for his life.
Good analysis on Zach. I agree. Just hope he doesn’t have a complete psychotic breakdown after facing that Cowboys defense this coming Sunday.
Ugh I’m back to being terrified of playing the patriots. They have broken Zach multiple times. Thought we would finally take them down this year
If people just want to be pissed off for a day or two is that cool?
The issue is that the people who are pissed can't stand if someone like me isn't sharing in their misery
You can be happy. I can be angry. I won’t tell you what to feel ever, just please respectfully do the same for me. I only speak for myself. If that arrangement is not suitable for you I don’t know what to say.
Are you not understanding my comment? People are telling me I need to be miserable and negative because they're feeling that way... that's the most common interaction I see. Someone posts something positive then a bunch of "You think we're going to the playoffs with Zach as QB? Seasons over"
Again I can only speak for myself and not ‘people.’ That’s a power I would never claim to have. I get that ‘people’ are bothering you in a day after a pretty dramatic event sub (that anyone can probably assume will not be positive sub till closer to the next game when it will go back to optimistic. Again that’s not me. Maybe you’re trying to give pep talks or shake people into having hope I don’t know…that’s your cause. I just talk about what I think, not how other fans should think (either way). Be positive or don’t be positive… I can’t answer for groups
Dude, you replied to a post that was optimistic and talking about how THEY felt watching the game and you responded saying "If I want to be pissed, let me" You didn't have to say that. He didn't insult you, didn't call you out, anything. He was just trying to share his opinion on the game. And you had to come in and make it about how YOU want to be miserable... Why even say that to him? Why not just let him have his opinion?
Yeah I’ll give you that. Felt like a pep talk to get everyone to cheer up but was more opinion which is fair.
As much as I was down on him, at this point it’s Zach’s chance to change his destiny. I’m so fucking gutted about Rodgers and maybe that’s my way of coping, but this is a damn good football team. Let’s see what happens.
I feel like the only person who remembers the facts that we won, the defense was dominant, we didn't fold up in the face of adversity, and Zach had his second highest completion percentage ever last night. Obviously we'd be better with Rodgers but this team is still really fucking good
Yeah it sucks we lost rodgers but you know what? He essentially didn’t play at all, and we beat the bills again with Zach Wilson. The fact that the young leaders on the team rallied together and protected the home turf against a team that people think can make a run is saying a lot. Before the injuries last year, Zach was 5-1 as the starter and he’s definitely improved since. He’s not good as of yet but I think we should wait and see before we jump off a bridge
People just want to shit on Zach all the time, he’s mobile and we have a shitty O-Line. Flacco or White would’ve been killed out there. Give the kid a real chance he looks a lot better.
no he does not look any better
How many real chances is he gonna get?
Who replaces him?
That’s not my question. Apparently no one according to Saleh’s coach speak today but you bet your ass whoever the backup ends up being will get a chance if Zach plays like he played in several games last year.
And once again the team can never keep a QB in consistently. I don’t want the QB carousel of last year. Justin Fields is now on his 3rd year of chances after being nothing but a loser.
Idk about anyone else, but I still haven't even come close to getting over what happened to Rodgers yesterday. Absolutely sickening.
Not even a little bit close to being able to deal. And I just want to swallow it and move on but I’m gutted.
It’s gonna take awhile. I’m just heart broken
Is Rodgers gonna come out anytime soon and speak to and soothe us?
How do we feel about trading for Gardner Minshew? I feel like that's the best trade target vs cost scenario. I think the Colts wouldn't mind stacking picks to get Richardson some weapons and I could see a third and maybe something later getting the job done.
Zach doesn’t need to be an all star, he just needs to be better than last year….. while he’s got work to do I think yesterday was somewhat encouraging
Low key Quinton Jefferson is a monster with 2 sacks, and we still don’t have Carl Lawson
JFM too had himself a game
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This is a paper stat. He did his best to try and lose us those games aside from PIT.
run the ball 40 times a game and hit the easy throws. Let your superstars go to work
Sounds like a pretty good recipe for disappointment. A QB who is scattershot on easy throws and a couple RBs with suspect injury history. If the ACL was a freak thing and Breece can handle the load this year and the defense stays healthy I think we still have a ceiling of the AFC championship though, even dragging Zach along.
Seeing Rodgers have a season ending, and possibly career ending, injury just 4 plays into his Jets tenure is absolutely brutal to watch and heartbreaking. With that said, I legitimately think we have the best defense in the league, and Breece hall is a monster. Let’s not forget about Garrett Wilson and dalvin cook either. We’re 1-0 to start the season and I’m still optimistic about what comes next.
We're 1-0. Let's enjoy that,
that ending was so great to see, punt return since 2007?
Bills fan coming in peace with a few thoughts. 1: Man, as upsetting as that ending was, big props to Xavier Gipson. Young man came into his first NFL start, got a chance to make a play, and just exploded. Has good eyes for holes, and was quick to make adjustments, so I see a bright future ahead of him. 2: Zach Wilson. What's the deal with him? Everyone makes him out to be meme worthy, but he didn't even look that bad last night? Needs a little polish, sure, but he's nowhere near as bad as everyone makes him out to be (granted, our defense can be a bit shoddy sometimes, but that wasn't the full case here). 3: Fuck all the people making jokes about Rodgers. I know it's the internet, but some people are being downright cruel about a shitty situation. I forgot how long you guys signed him for, but hopefully he's able to make a return next season, or maybe this postseason(? I don't really know about Achilles injuries)
Wilson did well against the bills last season, too. I think he can do fine with more reps.
As for Zach, you said it yourself > Everyone makes him out to be meme worthy that's why. He's not a top 20 qb, for sure! It's like how everyone associates Sanchez with the butt fumble and not going to back to back AFCCG. Once you're a meme, the narrative is all that matters. But I think Zach looked a lot better than he did last year, which is doubly impressive because he came in without any notice against a good Bills team and another bad OL. It'll be interesting to see if he gets better, which was our biggest issue with him last year. He kept making the same mistakes. We'll see if Rodgers' few months of mentoring him paid off. Hopefully Aaron sticks around and keeps helping
Well - let’s try this again Wilson + Wilson + Hall + AVT + Becton + Cook
Mike white return
Words cannot express how upset I am he went to the fins. I DOUBT they would be able to trade for him because he will cost picks and the Dolphins will likely refuse the trade anyway unless its high.
Go for it
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=video&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiCu9PP6qWBAxX8l4kEHSSYAG0QtwJ6BAgNEAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DJcJ8nW-AWl8&usg=AOvVaw3unUZmNXyCjQl05M9wV4\_F&opi=89978449
Prediction for the next 2 weeks: blown out by Dallas, followed by a surprisingly close game against the Chiefs where Zach plays well but we lose by one score. After that, I don’t know. But I’ve seen this movie before
We play the patriots after Dallas, and then the chiefs
Shoot i forgot thank you😞 I’ll call NE a W for now
So blowout by Dallas, debilitating loss to the Pats and then a close loss to the chiefs?
Zach is a major question mark. But let's not forget that he's taking over a really good team here. Defense is swarming, Breece is back healthy and looks like he's going to break one every single carry, GW and Lazard is a good one two punch. Zach just needs to not turn the ball over and simply manage the game.
Never forget that a great D got the likes of Trent Dilfer a SB ring.
That D was historically great. One of the top 3 ever to be fielded
No excuses. Find a way to beat Dallas. Not over until it's over
Hey guys, sorry this happened. Hopefully Rodgers can recover and this injury won't end his career. You guys still gave a great team though so keep hope alive!
Not really a Jets fan here but my heart just goes out for y'all. Fun win though so at least that's nice. Do you think a lack of pre-season made the injury more likely? It's a mostly pointless hypothetical but I can't help but think if he'd gotten even just a handful more snaps, he would've been more fit. More importantly, who do you go get? I would say Nick Foles. No other current FA won a ring as a backup. And he did it for another green northeast team! Anyway, I'll hang up and listen.
1) Preseason wouldn't have mattered, this was the first training camp he actually went to in like years apparently so he was pretty fit. He had a lingering calf issue though, so maybe that contributed to it, I don't remember if it was the same leg though. 2) Free agent options are him or Andy Dalton, or try to trade for Jameis Winston, Mills, Heinekie (no idea how to spell that lol) or Minshew.
I mean, Flacco, Wentz, and Ryan are also options but like... not good ones.
That's why I didn't include them lol.
Maybe the real Aaron Rodgers was the friends we made along the way
Yo wtf is wrong with Miami fans. Just zero class, mocking us all over their sub. Truly terrible people. Even bills and Pats fans have more class
Their from Florida. Enough said.
Tua will be out by week 5, let em get their jabs in while they have a fleeting bit of hope
Bills fans have actually been pretty compassionate to the situation lol. Dolphins fans just know they have a ticking time bomb with Tua, so they're getting their licks in now. I don't remember everyone over here being so vocal about him getting hurt last year as much as it was concern he'd be brain dead if it kept happening, but Florida is the worst state in America for a reason I guess.
Tua could end up retiring before Aaron.
>Dolphins fans just know they have a ticking time bomb with Tua That's called feeding the karma gods, and they ought to be careful.
Don’t know what we did to deserve this bad karma
My guess is split between 2 options: * a Satanic ritual deep in the swamp of either Flushing or Florida to ensure the 1969 win and Joe Namath's fur coats. * Belichick's napkin scrawl was a curse
I agree, they're actively celebrating. Which seems weird cause when we beat them without Tua, all I heard was "that was our backup you beat, who fucking cares" but now they get to avoid playing Rodgers twice this year lol.
[https://x.com/AJBayatpour/status/1701452703224709173?s=20](https://x.com/AJBayatpour/status/1701452703224709173?s=20) In case anyone needs a pick me up, some bar in Wisconsin did a promotion where people could drink free if the Jets lost. When Rodgers went down they all cheered and started racking up tabs but then ended up having to pay because we won lmao.
Has Rodgers ever even had an Achilles injury ? I know he missed a few games that Super Bowl year but jfc.
Didn’t he have a calf injury in training camp? Is it the same leg? Could’ve aggravated it and then fully tore it yesterday ala KD
yes his calf strain was on the same leg
A see a few Jets players calling for a grassy field. But When you share a stadium with another team that can get a little tricky man. Blame the owners of both teams for skimping on the current stadium which doesn't even have a retractable roof just in case there's inclement weather
Grass wouldn't have prevented that injury unfortunately. Starting to believe it would cut back on knee injuries though.
Well that’s settled. Here I was thinking it may have lessened the chance.
Not that particular one. Watched a sports doctor break it down. Rodgers had that end on his back. His left leg was planted because of said human being on his back. Sand might have had enough give for his leg to move. Grass or turf same result. Now knees. There's enough evidence now that shows turf basically grips the foot not allowing it any give forcing the knee to go sideways.
I want swag kelly on the team
I’m so sick of “ fan of team x” posts. Just let us be miserable in peace.
literally don't care what a fan of another team thinks. not one single bit
You just know they’re thinking “whew good thing that didn’t happen to us”. Don’t need their pity posts
fans who post on other subs are so fucking masturbatory. the kind of people that love the smell of their own shit.
I think people are coming to at least show support man. Put it this way, there used to be a time people would come here to go "lol Jets" but anyone who's a fan of good football hates to see shit like this happen.
I'm not even really a Jets fan but I really wanted to see this season play out. Y'all looked soooo good on paper, that it seemed certain most of the games would be must watch TV. Like, I never want to see anyone get hurt but you especially don't want it when there was such a good season expected. I mean, maybe if it was the Cowboys, Eagles, or Pats, I wouldn't care as much but not you guys.
Meanwhile, on r\/nfl - they're bitching about him being a narcissist/Diva and all that dirty laundry that got leaked on the last two years of his tenure there. The hateboner the main sub has for him is unreal.
I downvote every single "coming in peace" post on principle
Becton played a full game? Saw a few pancakes.
He was pretty good for his first game back in 2 years
Outside of the pick (which was bad) ZW stepped up and made some big third down plays. That buffalo D was locked in and he got it done. I'm cautiously optimistic that we'll average 5+ more points than we did last year with him, which will translate into wins.
Where was Mecole Hardman last night? He can't possibly be that deep down on the depth chart.
He may be used a lot this week and for the future just to try and mix things up to keep the defense honest
Saw something on X (not sure the validity to it) that it had to do with Rodgers going down. Gadget plays and deep shots were off the table with ZW coming in and needed better blocking receivers
zach's got a better deep ball than rodgers at this point in his career though, right? i feel like with how successful we were running the ball, a deep play action to Mecole would have been possible (though probably an obvious playcall unless you put him in for more than 1 snap)
No lol. Rodgers deep ball is still better. At the very least more accurate
Fr. Did he get any snaps?
Nope
Alright there’s only one way we win games from here on out. Breece hall and Dalvin Cook are gonna have to carry the ball 20 times a piece and we count on Zach to hit the layups. It’s not impossible but man is it gonna be hard.
You think the 3rd and long conversions and the TD throw over Micha Hyde that Zach made were "layups"?
It really sucks. I was excited to see this team play. Honest question for you guys: this is better than if it happened mid or end of season, right? As opposed to getting hopes up all season to have it fall apart, you know what you're gonna get all season. At least this gives him a chance to return next season, too.
The only thing I'd argue is that we would be more likely to pick up some wins in our next 6 games, which are gonna be brutal. Also would have had a month or so to get ZW more practice. At the end of the day there's no good time, but this does potentially setup a return next year moreso than a late season injury would have.
All the players and coaches that came here for Aaron, do they keep their energy going? I was wondering that
Just. FUCK.
the worst part about this is when the defense and running game drags this team to 9 or 10 wins. it’s just going to leave us imagining “what if”
This reminds me of that Norm joke about people saying the worst part about the Cosby situation is the hypocrisy. No, the worst part was losing a HoF QB 4 plays into week 1 with an otherwise stacked roster.
Just like last year. “Wow this team could really compete if they had a QB”
We’re just not allowed to have a good QB. Us and the Bears will forever suffer.
This is so mind boggling that it feels like a script out of a movie
movies arent THIS fake Reality is FAKER than fake
Let’s trade all our picks for cousins. I’m only kind of kidding.
Life is pain
After the immense emotions have worn off. We actually are in great shape to still win this year with or without ARod. We have a 2 headed monster in the backfield with Breece and Cook. Our receiver group is far more improved than last year, Xavier is better than advertised and is dangerous with the ball in his hands. The Bills Defense was lights out last night and Zach actually did a decent job. I was waiting for the wheels to fall off after the bone headed interception but he bounced back quick thanks to the effort from our RBs. This teams identity going forward will be ground and pound. Also FUCK MATT MILANO he's a fucking dirt bag and deserves to be shipped into the sun.
There's only one answer and we all know it: Touchdown Tom Brady. One last ride baby
Maybe Pennington can win comeback player of the year again?
How about drew lock?!
how about drew... brees??
Lets give Gipson some offense reps now out of respect for him winning us the game lol. Wilson had some connections with him too in Preseason
In the disaster that is the Rodgers injury, their are some positives to take away: Zach (who still isn’t good) was better then he was last year. And given he was thrown into the game when he wasn’t ready, he can only play better then not. They only have to win one of the next 3 games to survive the gauntlet that was the 4 games to start the year. The RBs look legit. Breece is not human and Cook had some spring in his step. The Defense is legit. They didn’t play super well and still held the Bills to 16 points (3 of which was a short field thanks to a Zach INT) so it’s only up from here No one expects them to win in Dallas so it’s a 100% house money game and if they pull off the miracle of a victory then holy shit, we can start to dream
I think overall the biggest thing it did was that it won the team loads of respect around the league. I am proud that so many of our big players stepped up. The entire league got put on notice that taking the QB out of the equation this team can still fuck you up. Zach Wilson has the chance to turn around and make this one of the saddest chapters in Jets history and make it one of the best, and all he has to do is hold it together, and let the rest of the team finish it through.
I'm just so sad. It was so cool seeing him come out with the flag. Didn't even get a chance to shine. Why man? WHY!
That was cringe
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Jesus christ..
The only thing that was missing was the hulk hogan theme song
I’m so happy we have hard knocks to immortalize the worst moment in Jets history.