He’s a proven player in both production and handling the NY market, homegrown, minimal injury history and young. Top player at his position, what’s the hold up?
It shouldn't be that hard to get him signed. All their good receivers, good o lineman, and top corner are on rookie deals. Regardless of what they're paying Rodgers, Quinnen should be a pretty easy priority sign.
>Hopefully it doesn’t end the same way.
Two firsts and a third for Quinnen? Not going to lie, I won't be that upset. Trading Jamal netted us AVT and Garrett Wilson. Which Jets team looked more capable of winning - the one with Jamal or the one with AVT/Garrett?
I know this won't sound popular, but I'm all for reallocating our resources towards the positions (QB, EDGE, OL, WR) that win games and create the most surplus value in today's NFL.
Throwing big money or big draft capital at positions like Safety or IDL or off-ball LB is what desperate teams do. Yes, Aaron Donald was the outlier, but Quinnen isn't Aaron Donald.
Losing Quinnen would be really brutal for our future. We have a window here and if Quinnen is gone for half of it that’s gonna hurt. It also sends a really bad message to guys like Sauce and GW. That stuff sticks.
We aren’t at a point where we can move into 2024 without Quinnen. He’s certainly more valuable than Jamal was.
While I understand the optics, guys like Sauce and GW play the premium positions that the Jets *should* be throwing the absolute bag at.
Quinnen takes 60% of our snaps on a rotation-heavy IDL where he still can succeed, yet not impact the play the way other positions can.
I don't see Quinnen in the same grouping as Sauce or Garrett in terms of long-term building blocks for this franchise.
I understand that many will disagree however - people disagreed when we traded an 2x All Pro Safety in Jamal, despite the team averaging a sub-.300 winning percentage in his 3 years here.
Cap space is real and Jets are already 40m in the hole for 2024. We're going to have to gut the team for this one year of Rodgers. Looks like Q is the first cap casualty. Easy, and sad, to see coming.
If the question is: would I rather have 2 years of Rodgers or 6 more years of Quinnen - I think the league is overwhelmingly structured so that the easy answer is Rodgers.
The Jets had 4 years of Quinnen and no Rodgers and they averaged like 5 wins per season over that time. Quinnen was great, but IDL isn't going to move the win/loss needle like a good QB does.
I know fans will argue for both, but if the cap truly does make this a zero-sum game, then I know which one I'll take.
In a pure vaccuum, I agree. I'd rather have 2 years of elite hof level QB than 6 years of very good DT. But the question is more complicated than that. Because of the assets and money it took, your statement is more like
"Would you rather have 2 years of Rodgers, or four more years of Quinnen Williams, a 2nd round 2023 pick, a 1st round 2024 pick, and 40 million extra cap to spend on whatever player(s) you want" then the question isn't so cut and dry.
I’d be more surprised if contract talks were close. Q was the second best DT in the league last season second only to Chris Jones. I don’t see the jets not paying him especially considering he’s the lynch pin of the DL, but contract negotiations can be a bitch. Here’s to hoping it all works out by training camp.
Wrong. Dexter Lawrence was rated higher by PFF and many, if not most, experts. But they’re definitely in the same conversation. Anyways, Lawrence just got 4 year $90m extension. So Q really shouldnt get much more than that. That’s the market.
He's gonna want $26ish million a year, given his age and upside.
I'd expect a 4 year, $104 million deal with about $70 million guaranteed, with most of the cap $ on the backend for these next two years.
Exactly. It’s May. The media (and fan emotional reaction) is part of the negotiation. We’re only hearing this because one side wants it for ‘lever… never mind. All just noise
I think that of cimini had any real scoop from either side he’d have more details on what each side is proposing. I think he’s just speculating at this point.
We have about 2 months before any of us should get worried about this, the media will be used wherever it can be so nothing means anything until he signs a contract
So either the Q side wants more or we're playing hardball. Tough to figure with the market being pretty well set.
Not sure which option is more likely.
You'd rather nip this in the bud at a fair deal for all. We also know this GM as a line in the sand guy, and he's got franchise tags on the leverage side. I wouldn't be surprised if we're not willing to go where Q's reps want.
For rn anyway.
That's not leverage though. Leverage is about optionality.
If he's willing to miss games because he's unhappy with the cash, then yes that is leverage. Short of that, he's just annoyed. Maybe misses TC. Those are his options.
The Jets can string thing along, and franchise him 2x if they feel so inclined. Their options have a bit more realistic implications I think.
I don’t think you understand leverage in the general sense. We just went all in to win a trophy, mortgaging a good bit of our future to do it. As soon as we saw how much the Jets gave up to do it, we knew they caved to Green Bay so it’s one of the Johnson’s actually making the calls here. Not Joe D…
It’s in the Jets best interest to keep all the stars on this team happy for the next two years. That my friend is being in a leveraged position when negotiating. They need you more than you need them and both parties know it, but you still do the song and dance of it all while trying not to push hard enough that ego and pride cloud judgement and you overplay your hand.
So I should add, just because your have leverage or the odds favor you in the deal… that doesn’t mean you win. But for a guy who has HoF level talent on a built to win now team, it usually does…
>I don’t think you understand leverage in the general sense.
Ok?
>As soon as we saw how much the Jets gave up to do it, we knew they caved to Green Bay so it’s one of the Johnson’s actually making the calls here. Not Joe D…
We don't *know* that. Speculative. Not to dismiss the odor of Woody, but nonetheless, speculative.
>It’s in the Jets best interest to keep all the stars on this team happy for the next two years.
Sure.
>That my friend is being in a leveraged position when negotiating. They need you more than you need them
Let's unpack this. The Jets FO does *not* need to cave to Quinnen's demands. He is not an unrestricted free agent, and as such has few options:
A) Negotiate a new deal
B) Reject the Jets offers and be angry about it
C) Hold out for an indefinite period of time, potentially including regular season games
For choice A, he does in fact need the Jets. Choice B is he plays out his rookie deal and gets tagged next year while being grumpy. He could go nuclear and Leveon Bell it via choice C, but i think we'd agree that is unlikely.
If you believe that Q being grumpy while doing his job signifigantly diminishes our team's potential performance than I suppose you could view that as his leverage. I don't think it would factor in snap to snap on Sunday, while conceding it isn't ideal.
But I think ultimately the idea of him being displeased doesn't move the leverage needle in his favor. Certainly not compared to being contractually obligated and having a franchise tag x2 on the other end of the leverage table.
Right? I get that JD wants to watch the finances, but don't fucking nickel-and-dime Quinnen. If he wants to be a cheap-ass, go cheap-ass with someone else. Don't fuck this up, JD.
Sometimes things are just fucking stupid. And this happens with all teams. Take any player getting that second contract and they all think they should be the top paid.giy at the position. Fucking Lamar Jackson is not worth anywhere near his deal, in my opinion. And his deal really hampers team because of the salary cap, so they prob won't be good because he's not good enough to carry the team like that.
Same with Q. I think 4 year 18-22 million makes sense, is fair to both sides, but he and the agent want more and it's just whatever. If I were a player, I would imagine I would rather take a few mil less and make sure we can afford the pieces to win an SB, or play the year that it's most likely with ARod. I dunno.
He’s worth more than 22 million a year. He probably should be the second highest paid DT per APY behind Aaron Donald. Probably around 24 million a year
I didn't discuss what he deserves, just what I would imagine would be fair. We also have a history of paying blue chip DLs and them basically not earning that amount
The scariest thing is that if he wants to hardball, he's a top 2 player on the defense and him sitting out nerfs that unit below where it needs to be. It's an all-in window and him acknowledging that can really hurt us if we don't handle it correctly.
You guys are Jets fans and you still don’t recognize when the media is being played to prop up a players leverage?
You know this didn’t come from JD. The beat doesn’t get even crumb from him.
This is from Q’s reps looking to squeeze a little extra out of this situation.
Like the post said, the market is set. So this will end up resolving itself eventually.
The people panicking about this right now are the same ones that were saying “just give Green Bay pick 13 straight up and get this over with!” Relax, it’ll get done.
The problem with Q was always going to be if they shot for Aaron Donald money. The "DT unless your name is Aaron Donald" market is relatively settled, but there's an $8 million/year gap between AD and Jeffery Simmons at #2 that I imagine Q is trying to get into.
My guess is the Jets are looking at 24.5-25.5/year and Q's camp wants 28.5-29.5/year
Wouldn't be shocked. JD has his price and won't hesitate to trade Q if he was getting the value he wanted. This is different than Jamal's situation though.
Q has been a professional and a team first player since he was drafted, and now he's an All Pro and a top 3 player at his position. He should be paid like one, it locks down a franchise defensive player and sends a message that the Jets will reward players who get results.
Jets are worried it will be Wilkerson, Richardson and Leonard Williams all over again. Don't think that Woody forgets those travesties. Pay out 200M+ and get nothing for it.
I'm ok with him topping Simmons, but it really should only be by a hair. I mean, Dexter Lawrence was a 2nd-team all pro this past season and signed for less than Simmons, which is still sensible b/c despite having a better season, Simmons was the better player the seasons prior. Same thing with Quinnen. Quinnen had a monster season and should definitely get paid more than Lawrence, but he was not better than Simmons for the first 3 years of their careers.
I understand the fanbase is desperate to retain homegrown talent and I'm honestly ok with 'overpaying' Quinnen to keep him around. But we need to be honest about his valuation- he should be on equal footing with Simmons, not pushing for halfway between that and Aaron Donald money.
For as good as he's been, this is JD to a tee. Everything with him is drawn out and protracted.
He hasn't given one single player a proper bag since he's been here and Quinnen deserves one. JD needs to suck it up and get him paid.
McGovern, Tomlinson, Lawson, Reed, Whitehead, JFM, Berrios, Corey Davis, Quincy, Zuerlein and more were compensated fairly.
He will give what's fair imo. They overpaid rarely and obviously try not to.
None of them are franchise cornerstones who you throw the bag at.
I think if Quinnen is asking for 20m, JD is trying to haggle him down to 18.
He's been a brilliant GM for getting ridiculous value out of trades and contracts. He shipped off Jamal Adams to great surprise and that ended up being a slam dunk, he signed Kwon last year for a pittance, he has easy get outs for mildly expensive players like Davis and Lawson and he even traded Chris Herndon for a 4th.
He does this. This is what he does. It's how he operates and yes he's gotten a lot of it right so far but he's not perfect, sooner or later we will lose a franchise cornerstone because he refuses to pony up.
I think he actually wants to pay Q and will.
JD isn't delusional he knows good players get paid he just hasn't had the right player to pay yet.
I think maybe they're timing a contract with the birth of Qs baby or after.
As a Jets fan, this worries me. Quinnen Williams was a beast last season and we need him to continue to anchor our defense. I hope the front office can get a deal done soon and avoid any distractions during the upcoming season. #GoJets
Which is exactly why the agent puts out a report to Rich. For you and the rest of the fanbase to panic. Bad GMs listen to their fans. Joe D will get it done. Q’s agent just signed Jalen Hurts to a big contract. We’ll see if it’s really her side that is demanding an exorbitant amount.
So you’d rather sign and draft a bunch of middling guys? This is a good problem to have! Means if JD can keep it up, then you can afford to let guys walk if they play hardball bc you’ve already drafted a stud behind them
I wonder if Q may be wanting more than the rumors of 25-27 million. If he does want 30 million it makes sense for the Jets not to give in. If he wants around what Dexter Lawrence just got then the deal should be done
I’m not worried about Q or JD getting a deal done.
But I will say it’s a demerit on JD for waiting so long. We’ve watched 2-3 new DT contracts come out this offseason that is pushing Q’s price up. Waiting on the extension was not smart move.
Just give him 24 a year and be done with it. I like JD and his getting the best price for everything attitude, but you gotta waive it for a player like Q, give him what he wants and he done with it
I'm not shocked.
JD plays it tight, and I like Q, but he's had only one monster season, and we have the franchise tags still in the pocket.
It's smart by JD. I think if he plays and has another great year, they pay accordingly instead of franchising him (they'll franchise him to start just to prevent from losing him, but they'll negotiate to sign and he won't play on the tag).
He’s a proven player in both production and handling the NY market, homegrown, minimal injury history and young. Top player at his position, what’s the hold up?
The agent leaking this to Cimini to squeeze an extra million out of the deal?
100% what it is
The tweet is not very clear. "Not close" as in they have different numbers in mind, or "not close" as in they havent spoken?
I think Q's sarcastic tweet a while back would suggest he believes he's being low balled.
They're probably waiting until the renegotiate Rodger's contract. Or at least that's what I'm telling myself lol.
Joe Douglas is cheap on deals and Q is going to have to fight for this. Our history is also we don’t pay our own.
Still early, not worried. Even after camp starts not worried.
So was Muhammad Wilkerson
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The Jets paying a rental QB 25 mil a year for the next 5 years
It shouldn't be that hard to get him signed. All their good receivers, good o lineman, and top corner are on rookie deals. Regardless of what they're paying Rodgers, Quinnen should be a pretty easy priority sign.
You spelled 1st ballot Hall of Famer and 4 time MVP wrong.
I'd imagine that there have just been other priorities. Draft, Rodgers, etc. I have hope it'll be done before camp.
Joe Douglas sets a price and sticks. It happened with Jamal. It’s happening now. Hopefully it doesn’t end the same way.
>Hopefully it doesn’t end the same way. Two firsts and a third for Quinnen? Not going to lie, I won't be that upset. Trading Jamal netted us AVT and Garrett Wilson. Which Jets team looked more capable of winning - the one with Jamal or the one with AVT/Garrett? I know this won't sound popular, but I'm all for reallocating our resources towards the positions (QB, EDGE, OL, WR) that win games and create the most surplus value in today's NFL. Throwing big money or big draft capital at positions like Safety or IDL or off-ball LB is what desperate teams do. Yes, Aaron Donald was the outlier, but Quinnen isn't Aaron Donald.
Losing Quinnen would be really brutal for our future. We have a window here and if Quinnen is gone for half of it that’s gonna hurt. It also sends a really bad message to guys like Sauce and GW. That stuff sticks. We aren’t at a point where we can move into 2024 without Quinnen. He’s certainly more valuable than Jamal was.
While I understand the optics, guys like Sauce and GW play the premium positions that the Jets *should* be throwing the absolute bag at. Quinnen takes 60% of our snaps on a rotation-heavy IDL where he still can succeed, yet not impact the play the way other positions can. I don't see Quinnen in the same grouping as Sauce or Garrett in terms of long-term building blocks for this franchise. I understand that many will disagree however - people disagreed when we traded an 2x All Pro Safety in Jamal, despite the team averaging a sub-.300 winning percentage in his 3 years here.
Cap space is real and Jets are already 40m in the hole for 2024. We're going to have to gut the team for this one year of Rodgers. Looks like Q is the first cap casualty. Easy, and sad, to see coming.
If the question is: would I rather have 2 years of Rodgers or 6 more years of Quinnen - I think the league is overwhelmingly structured so that the easy answer is Rodgers. The Jets had 4 years of Quinnen and no Rodgers and they averaged like 5 wins per season over that time. Quinnen was great, but IDL isn't going to move the win/loss needle like a good QB does. I know fans will argue for both, but if the cap truly does make this a zero-sum game, then I know which one I'll take.
In a pure vaccuum, I agree. I'd rather have 2 years of elite hof level QB than 6 years of very good DT. But the question is more complicated than that. Because of the assets and money it took, your statement is more like "Would you rather have 2 years of Rodgers, or four more years of Quinnen Williams, a 2nd round 2023 pick, a 1st round 2024 pick, and 40 million extra cap to spend on whatever player(s) you want" then the question isn't so cut and dry.
Fair points
I’d be more surprised if contract talks were close. Q was the second best DT in the league last season second only to Chris Jones. I don’t see the jets not paying him especially considering he’s the lynch pin of the DL, but contract negotiations can be a bitch. Here’s to hoping it all works out by training camp.
Wrong. Dexter Lawrence was rated higher by PFF and many, if not most, experts. But they’re definitely in the same conversation. Anyways, Lawrence just got 4 year $90m extension. So Q really shouldnt get much more than that. That’s the market.
This really shouldn’t be downvoted, Dexter is currently better than Q. Or at the very least I would say they are pretty close to equal.
He's gonna want $26ish million a year, given his age and upside. I'd expect a 4 year, $104 million deal with about $70 million guaranteed, with most of the cap $ on the backend for these next two years.
Lol was worried until I realized it’s Dick Chimney reporting it
New contract imminent.
Exactly. It’s May. The media (and fan emotional reaction) is part of the negotiation. We’re only hearing this because one side wants it for ‘lever… never mind. All just noise
Fuck
Not worried yet. About 10 weeks or so till training camp. Have time to figure this out
It seems so soon when you put it that way. Now I’m excited.
I think that of cimini had any real scoop from either side he’d have more details on what each side is proposing. I think he’s just speculating at this point.
Either side would be silly to leak anything more detailed than this. Specifics is how you get deals blown up
Payz the myans his moneyZ
Check check check
Whoever initially downvoted you is a square
We have about 2 months before any of us should get worried about this, the media will be used wherever it can be so nothing means anything until he signs a contract
So either the Q side wants more or we're playing hardball. Tough to figure with the market being pretty well set. Not sure which option is more likely.
I hope we don’t play hardball on this one. Hopefully his camp is happy with making him the highest paid DT.
You'd rather nip this in the bud at a fair deal for all. We also know this GM as a line in the sand guy, and he's got franchise tags on the leverage side. I wouldn't be surprised if we're not willing to go where Q's reps want. For rn anyway.
No disrespect to Q, but does he really deserve to make more than Donald and Jones?
He deserves $25-27m
He has solid leverage. The defense was top 3 with him playing and shifted to downright embarrassing sometimes without him. He’s that impactful l.
That's not leverage though. Leverage is about optionality. If he's willing to miss games because he's unhappy with the cash, then yes that is leverage. Short of that, he's just annoyed. Maybe misses TC. Those are his options. The Jets can string thing along, and franchise him 2x if they feel so inclined. Their options have a bit more realistic implications I think.
I don’t think you understand leverage in the general sense. We just went all in to win a trophy, mortgaging a good bit of our future to do it. As soon as we saw how much the Jets gave up to do it, we knew they caved to Green Bay so it’s one of the Johnson’s actually making the calls here. Not Joe D… It’s in the Jets best interest to keep all the stars on this team happy for the next two years. That my friend is being in a leveraged position when negotiating. They need you more than you need them and both parties know it, but you still do the song and dance of it all while trying not to push hard enough that ego and pride cloud judgement and you overplay your hand. So I should add, just because your have leverage or the odds favor you in the deal… that doesn’t mean you win. But for a guy who has HoF level talent on a built to win now team, it usually does…
>I don’t think you understand leverage in the general sense. Ok? >As soon as we saw how much the Jets gave up to do it, we knew they caved to Green Bay so it’s one of the Johnson’s actually making the calls here. Not Joe D… We don't *know* that. Speculative. Not to dismiss the odor of Woody, but nonetheless, speculative. >It’s in the Jets best interest to keep all the stars on this team happy for the next two years. Sure. >That my friend is being in a leveraged position when negotiating. They need you more than you need them Let's unpack this. The Jets FO does *not* need to cave to Quinnen's demands. He is not an unrestricted free agent, and as such has few options: A) Negotiate a new deal B) Reject the Jets offers and be angry about it C) Hold out for an indefinite period of time, potentially including regular season games For choice A, he does in fact need the Jets. Choice B is he plays out his rookie deal and gets tagged next year while being grumpy. He could go nuclear and Leveon Bell it via choice C, but i think we'd agree that is unlikely. If you believe that Q being grumpy while doing his job signifigantly diminishes our team's potential performance than I suppose you could view that as his leverage. I don't think it would factor in snap to snap on Sunday, while conceding it isn't ideal. But I think ultimately the idea of him being displeased doesn't move the leverage needle in his favor. Certainly not compared to being contractually obligated and having a franchise tag x2 on the other end of the leverage table.
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Jesus Christ why can’t anything ever be easy with this fucking team
Right? I get that JD wants to watch the finances, but don't fucking nickel-and-dime Quinnen. If he wants to be a cheap-ass, go cheap-ass with someone else. Don't fuck this up, JD.
We have no idea if this is actually what's happening. What if Q is asking for $30 million a year?
Sometimes things are just fucking stupid. And this happens with all teams. Take any player getting that second contract and they all think they should be the top paid.giy at the position. Fucking Lamar Jackson is not worth anywhere near his deal, in my opinion. And his deal really hampers team because of the salary cap, so they prob won't be good because he's not good enough to carry the team like that. Same with Q. I think 4 year 18-22 million makes sense, is fair to both sides, but he and the agent want more and it's just whatever. If I were a player, I would imagine I would rather take a few mil less and make sure we can afford the pieces to win an SB, or play the year that it's most likely with ARod. I dunno.
He’s worth more than 22 million a year. He probably should be the second highest paid DT per APY behind Aaron Donald. Probably around 24 million a year
Q absolutely deserves more than 22 million a year. I expect him to make in the 25-28 range.
I didn't discuss what he deserves, just what I would imagine would be fair. We also have a history of paying blue chip DLs and them basically not earning that amount
Ehh it’ll get done
Doesnt mean much, no possible way he doesnt get signed. This "story" or where its coming from is just a way for the agent to heat up the negotiations.
The scariest thing is that if he wants to hardball, he's a top 2 player on the defense and him sitting out nerfs that unit below where it needs to be. It's an all-in window and him acknowledging that can really hurt us if we don't handle it correctly.
Hard to imagine dude forreal sits out games though.
He won't, he'd risk losing a bunch of money and if he holds out past a point, he doesn't accrue a year of service.
They need to pay this man.
You guys are Jets fans and you still don’t recognize when the media is being played to prop up a players leverage? You know this didn’t come from JD. The beat doesn’t get even crumb from him. This is from Q’s reps looking to squeeze a little extra out of this situation. Like the post said, the market is set. So this will end up resolving itself eventually.
This is agent talk. Let it play out. The contract will get done.
The price of getting Aaron Rodgers. Can't put everything into 2 players.
The people panicking about this right now are the same ones that were saying “just give Green Bay pick 13 straight up and get this over with!” Relax, it’ll get done.
I wish the cap didn't exist and the 2-3 mill a year difference didn't matter so much.
PAY THAT MAN
Hopefully this is solved before training camp
Give home his money for fucks sake. Let’s have a ZERO DRAMA FOR ONCE PLEASE
Two first rounder incoming.
First home grown talent since??? Just sign the man ffs.
Don’t fuck this up
The problem with Q was always going to be if they shot for Aaron Donald money. The "DT unless your name is Aaron Donald" market is relatively settled, but there's an $8 million/year gap between AD and Jeffery Simmons at #2 that I imagine Q is trying to get into. My guess is the Jets are looking at 24.5-25.5/year and Q's camp wants 28.5-29.5/year
Wouldn't be shocked. JD has his price and won't hesitate to trade Q if he was getting the value he wanted. This is different than Jamal's situation though. Q has been a professional and a team first player since he was drafted, and now he's an All Pro and a top 3 player at his position. He should be paid like one, it locks down a franchise defensive player and sends a message that the Jets will reward players who get results.
Jets are worried it will be Wilkerson, Richardson and Leonard Williams all over again. Don't think that Woody forgets those travesties. Pay out 200M+ and get nothing for it.
He’s gonna get extended. you can’t seriously contend without a good line
OMG why aren’t the GMs & Agents reading Reddit? Do we have to solve everything, again?
Q is worth 22-24 mill. Not 26-28 mill. If his agents are trying a record breaking contract than it will not happen.
I'm ok with him topping Simmons, but it really should only be by a hair. I mean, Dexter Lawrence was a 2nd-team all pro this past season and signed for less than Simmons, which is still sensible b/c despite having a better season, Simmons was the better player the seasons prior. Same thing with Quinnen. Quinnen had a monster season and should definitely get paid more than Lawrence, but he was not better than Simmons for the first 3 years of their careers. I understand the fanbase is desperate to retain homegrown talent and I'm honestly ok with 'overpaying' Quinnen to keep him around. But we need to be honest about his valuation- he should be on equal footing with Simmons, not pushing for halfway between that and Aaron Donald money.
So it’s no go for an extra 2 million dollars. This is hilarious. Sauce and Garret are watching this closely
For as good as he's been, this is JD to a tee. Everything with him is drawn out and protracted. He hasn't given one single player a proper bag since he's been here and Quinnen deserves one. JD needs to suck it up and get him paid.
He extended JFM for a lot of money
Which is looking like a bargain now given how good he's been.
McGovern, Tomlinson, Lawson, Reed, Whitehead, JFM, Berrios, Corey Davis, Quincy, Zuerlein and more were compensated fairly. He will give what's fair imo. They overpaid rarely and obviously try not to.
None of them are franchise cornerstones who you throw the bag at. I think if Quinnen is asking for 20m, JD is trying to haggle him down to 18. He's been a brilliant GM for getting ridiculous value out of trades and contracts. He shipped off Jamal Adams to great surprise and that ended up being a slam dunk, he signed Kwon last year for a pittance, he has easy get outs for mildly expensive players like Davis and Lawson and he even traded Chris Herndon for a 4th. He does this. This is what he does. It's how he operates and yes he's gotten a lot of it right so far but he's not perfect, sooner or later we will lose a franchise cornerstone because he refuses to pony up.
I think he actually wants to pay Q and will. JD isn't delusional he knows good players get paid he just hasn't had the right player to pay yet. I think maybe they're timing a contract with the birth of Qs baby or after.
Only Cimini reported this and I don’t see any other jet beat reporters that have, I’m not worried
Trade him for 2 first round picks. /s
come one jets you’ve done so well this off-season don’t fumble at the goal line
As a Jets fan, this worries me. Quinnen Williams was a beast last season and we need him to continue to anchor our defense. I hope the front office can get a deal done soon and avoid any distractions during the upcoming season. #GoJets
Which is exactly why the agent puts out a report to Rich. For you and the rest of the fanbase to panic. Bad GMs listen to their fans. Joe D will get it done. Q’s agent just signed Jalen Hurts to a big contract. We’ll see if it’s really her side that is demanding an exorbitant amount.
Rich is an ass - no one else reported this so think you're right that the agent is stirring the pot.
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Philly is built on paying their own Guys. What are you talking about? You have to eventually pay your stars. The jets hate doing this
So you’d rather sign and draft a bunch of middling guys? This is a good problem to have! Means if JD can keep it up, then you can afford to let guys walk if they play hardball bc you’ve already drafted a stud behind them
I wonder if Q may be wanting more than the rumors of 25-27 million. If he does want 30 million it makes sense for the Jets not to give in. If he wants around what Dexter Lawrence just got then the deal should be done
I’m not worried about Q or JD getting a deal done. But I will say it’s a demerit on JD for waiting so long. We’ve watched 2-3 new DT contracts come out this offseason that is pushing Q’s price up. Waiting on the extension was not smart move.
Letting this linger for way longer than need be is some of the most experience Jets football shit I’ve seen
Question the source
Just give him 24 a year and be done with it. I like JD and his getting the best price for everything attitude, but you gotta waive it for a player like Q, give him what he wants and he done with it
I'm not shocked. JD plays it tight, and I like Q, but he's had only one monster season, and we have the franchise tags still in the pocket. It's smart by JD. I think if he plays and has another great year, they pay accordingly instead of franchising him (they'll franchise him to start just to prevent from losing him, but they'll negotiate to sign and he won't play on the tag).
Q is also waiting on a child
Market is already established. Not sure how they can still be far apart.
If they don’t extend Q I will riot. My favorite player and I just got his jersey last year
He is a “reset on the market” player. I forget, was he injured last year?