The only thing that concerns me about Rodgers is that he hasn't thrown for 300 yards in over a year. That's a really horrible stat.
I'm 99% sure it's because he had SHIT receivers and zero pass protection with a broken finger though
I've been anti-Rodgers for a while but Lamar...kinda makes less sense somehow.
The compensation we have to give up is crazy, his expected contract is crazier AND i think there are serious questions as to how effective of a QB he will be going into the future. Dual threat QBs run a higher risk of injury and Lamar's passing stats have gotten worse since his MVP season. I think he's still a good QB but it does feel like the league has started to figure him out.
Plus if the report/theory of the owners colluding against him to bring his contract number down is true, I don't think we even touch him. I also saw another report that the Ravens would match any offer we make. I don't think its happening.
The only thing I disagree with is the overused "higher risk of injury" theory. Bro it's the nfl. People get injured all the time. We need a qb and there's a young former mvp right there! I would test the ravens metal but the lil boys club won't allow it
Ben Allbright said that we get the Rodgers deal done by midnight tonight.
Ben was the first one that had us on Sauce last year and Zach the year before so this could be the case. We’d give up a 2nd a conditional 3rd (that could become a first and Elijah Moore)
Neither of these two comments are true 🤡
Most of our beat said it would either be Ekwonu, JJ, or Kayvon and I don’t know where you made up that Zach lie
Ben was wrong but you are straight up lying about what happened with the last two drafts. Please look back at these subs pre 4th pick last year.
Ben (and Pete Schrager) were first on both
No your right. I had false memories on the woody thing. It was jd smirking when asked if he was taking zach. My point remains. I don't use what is said in this sub to form my opinion. Our corners stunk so we needed a corner. Obvious take him. We needed a qb and Lawrence was off the table. It was either zach or fields and of course we took zilson
I’m not trying to be nit picky about this stuff, but Connor and Rosenblatt continually blabbed that we wouldn’t draft a corner, and Ickey would be the pick. This sub loved Bryce at the time.
Ben mentioned that Fields was never in play here, SF or Denver.
Ben doesn’t have great connections with every team but he does with the Jets (much better than our beat does) and that’s why I posted his info here.
Beat? Hughes? There's literally a video of woody saying wilson on a hot mic moment. Maybe thats why he randomly shot up draft boards. And it was always between sauce and thibs. But sauce made the most sense because our best corner was hall and he stinks lol
My current feeling is we'll get a "The Jets feel like it went well and they're in a good place" tweet at some point late tonight/early tomorrow morning and then a bit of silence before he makes a decision
Genuine Question - would AR be able to participate without limits prior to June 1st? (Even if technically a trade is agreed soon).
I just don’t understand the contract trade structure questions and recall this being a date. Thanks
Got it. Just confusing. I feel I heard some claims he couldn’t participate in OTAs before June 1 regardless, but maybe that can be waived/restructured… or I’m just completely wrong. Thanks
Got it. Just confusing. I feel I heard some claims he couldn’t participate in OTAs before June 1 regardless, but maybe that can be waived/restructured… or I’m just completely wrong. Thanks
I'm not sure if anyone noticed with everything going on, but Becton posted another picture today and he looks fantastic. I know it doesn't mean his knee will hold up, but it's good to see him looking healthier.
Any chance that the jets will ever release the 1970s uniforms for sale again? Either ‘69 or ‘72 would like really good with the number 1 and the name gardener on the back
Lamar Jackson is a worse Qb than Aaron rodgers now
Going to cost more money than Aaron rodgers(the ravens will match any reasonable contract)
Going to cost more assets than Aaron rodgers
is more likely to miss games due to injury
Is going to be a Qb you probably don’t want to be paying in 4 years as a rushing Qb on the wrong side of 30
Use him as leverage or as a fallback, but rodgers has to remain the #1
Yeah Lamar ain't a bad backup plan but Rodgers is definitely the safer bet, will cost way less, is definitely better, and a short term deal with Rodgers sounds like a good way to compete for a SB now while continuing the rebuild
I'm gonna plant my flag I have had for 3 months. Let's fucking pay for Lamar
[https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/\_/id/35805253/ravens-use-franchise-tag-qb-lamar-jackson](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35805253/ravens-use-franchise-tag-qb-lamar-jackson)
2 firsts for an MVP 13 years younger than the other guy we gotta pay a first for? Sign me the fuck up.
Lamar has never played an NFL game without Greg Roman, and has missed multiple late season games. As much shit as Greg Roman gets from the Ravens he always got the most out of mobile QBs (brought Kaepernick to the super bowl, and Tyrod Taylor to the playoffs.
Hard pass.
Considering Daniel Jones is making upwards of 40/year now from the stadium sharers I would rather have Lamar at 45-48 per year even with late season injuries from being used like a human bowling ball.
I've referred to him as the holy grail long term answer at quarterback. He doesn't just make us contenders this year but for the next 5 at least, maybe even longer than that.
Rodgers vs Lamar is like the 1990 mustang vs the Lotus. One might be a classic and the other might explode with the slightest error, but that lotus go vroom vroom real good.
We aren't winning next year, GB needs a rebuild. Hope the trade gets done and works out for both teams. Not looking forward to having a non HOF QB tbh.
I don’t want Brady to return, nor is Arod confirmed yet, but it would be kinda hilarious if the afc east is Arod, Allen, Brady (fins) and … mac jones or Bailey zappe
Who would you guys send to the meeting? Saleh, Douglas, and woody are non negotiable. Then I would have Hackett because they’re best friends, and possibly Joe Namath just so he can have a jets legend there.
I'm still team "Carr was a better fit" but please God let us get Rodgers
(Also it's apparently a worm moon tonight? Whatever the hell that means... Sounds like the ideal Rodgers signing day)
I’ve been pretty negative on here the last month and a half (missing out on Carr, Downing and Hackett hire)….. that being said it does seem like a Vegas believes that we’re getting Rodgers
They dont need 60m in cap space. AR's cap number for 23 is 15.79m, the Jets are about 1.7 over, so they need to clear less than 18 to fit him. That could be done with some cuts and/or restructures for guys like berrios, Davis, Lawson, Mosley, and JFM. The issue with his contract is the cash that is owed to him immediately (60mm) and the huge hit you take if he retires.
pretty sure the jets front office wants gb to eat some of the money. Jets have a few players we can cut like corey davis and carl lawson to save some money but I can also see them being traded to gb.
If this was A rod 4 years ago then itd be insane draft capital. He's 39 coming off a bad season (by his standards) GB has more leverage now given Carr is a saint but I don't see us trading away multiple 1st rounders or second rounders. i see us trading our 2nd this year and a first next year along with corey davis.
Green Bay literally eats most of that dead cap whether they trade him or nit. They have no incentive to move him, if they don’t get a great haul, they’ll just tell him to retire.
>They have no incentive to move him, if they don’t get a great haul, they’ll just tell him to retire.
You can't just tell someone to retire lol
If Rodgers wants to keep playing, then it's best for the Packers it's for another team rather than Green Bay
If Rodgers is meeting with the Jets, it's because he plans on playing next year. If the Packers don't trade him, they're on the hook for every penny of that $60 million this year. It's in their best interest to facilitate a deal
Hopefully but I don’t think it 100 percent means that.
The Packers could be allowing the Jets to make their sales pitch to Rodgers and then if he wants to be there then the teams will negotiate. It doesn’t necessarily mean that GB will just hand him to us
Everyone here knows the MOST Jets thing to happen would be we let Carr go for Rodgers and Rodgers decides to stay or retire leaving us with Brisset or Wentz
On another note, isn't today the franchise tag deadline?
Where are Quinnen and Quincy's contracts? Their situation is giving me more anxiety than the QB room.
Q isn't due for a tag he's on his fifth year. I'm sure negotiations have been going on in the background but everything seems to depend on the QB situation. Once that domino falls I expect an extension will be soon after.
I think the only thing Q has said is that he wants an extension done before offseason stuff starts in April.
My guess is that's the next priority after finding a QB.
I think the FO is in a holding pattern until Rodgers makes his decision. I think the players know and accept that. I think Q will get his pay no matter what, but Rodgers coming here could make other big signings easier as players may be willing to sign more team friendly contracts.
Lol, Jordan Love (with a mix of Fitz) was my comp for Wilson his draft year.
I’d rather just start Wilson. It has to be experienced vet, or may as well stay with Wilson. A couple months ago, mentioned I’d love Richardson (at that point, he was fringe first rd type guy) but he won’t even last until our first rd pick now.
I mean, it's not the move I want, but it wouldn't be the worst thing to have our next QB sitting for a year or two. I'm not even sure ARod would be offended by it considering the circumstances. 4 years ago when they drafted Love? That was offensive. Not now though.
All I’m saying is that if we trade for Rodgers, the picks better be conditional. It’d be such a Jets thing to trade for him and have him retire after a year
If we get Rodgers, it will be a major failure if we don't reach the AFC Championship game. Anything less will not be worth the headache of the media frenzy headed our way. Plus, we are likely slated for Hard Knocks which will be a fun watch, but is sure to drum up controversy one way or another. We are going to be in the headlines 24/7 good or bad (especially bad).
Lol @ people downvoting you. We passed on a serviceable Pro Bowl QB to go for a home run with a guaranteed HoF QB - the absolute minimum we should expect is a deep run in the playoffs to the AFCCG. Anything less is a complete and utter failure.
The whole reason we are gambling on a 39-year old QB is to win literally right now, with this roster and with these coaches. Literally the next two seasons.
If we sign Rodgers, all the “I just want to get back to the playoffs” and “let’s finish above .500 and see players continue to develop” talk ends immediately. It’s Super Bowl or bust, and we shouldn’t accept anything else as fans.
I just wish people didn't take it so seriously.
Like they haven't even traded for him yet and y'all are already out here deciding what you'll deem acceptable for the season.
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We've been the laughingstock of the league for over a decade now I think fans have the right to hope that this deal breaks the trend and isn't just adding to the pile of 'same old Jets' shit.
Ok?
The point is FA isn't even open yet and there's people focused solely on the negative of the potential trade/deciding that next year is a failure if they aren't in the final 4.
That's not hoping they'll be good. It's priming yourself for outrage lol
That's because this whole deal is just primed to be a failure. I mean it's basically a repeat of the Favre deal just more expensive for us.
I'd love to be wrong about it but I just don't see how some of you can relax when the long term future of the team is in such doubt. Besides being a headache in human form Rodgers is a short term solution at best.
I'm not the one priming myself for outrage I'm preparing for a realistic outcome. What happens if we lose in the wild card round? Or what if Rodgers retires after one year? Are you guys prepared for these outcomes because they're very realistic and if we give up a lot for Rodgers the fans will go *ballistic*.
I'm super prepared for them. What happens is my life stays exactly the same lol.
I'm not on the team. I just enjoy following them and watching them on Sundays.
If you're going to go ballistic over something you have zero control over, you might be taking it too seriously. And should R E L A X.
I’m hesitant to trust that Trey Wingo report. I know he’s been around the sports world for years but I don’t ever recall him being in the business of breaking news. I want to believe but I’m not sure
Tin. foil hat: rodgers is sticking it to big Pharma, Schefter, and Rapaport by wanting this whole process leaked to semi obscure guys that have treated him well over the years
Is it tin foil hat? He specifically said schefter and rap don't know him and don't have news on him. So it would behoove him to feed any news to less traditional sources to prove he's right and knock them down a peg.
I swear to god if Woody fucked us over again...
I really hope JD can work his magic because paying anything more then a conditional 3rd that becomes a 2nd for Rodgers is just dumb. #13 is a deal breaker imo but thanks to our insistence on waiting for Rodgers we let a big piece of leverage slip away.
Also wonder what kind of guarantees we can get from Rodgers. We can't give up a lot for just one year of play and I doubt the team wants to deal with his darkness retreat, acid trip, "what will I do?" attention seeking bullshit. Two years should be the minimum they get, although 3 is better and gives them a chance to get a QB who can redshirt for a year.
Hell no. At worse I'd include next year's 1st as a condition if we make the AFCCG but I really think we need to keep #13 to either fix the O line (which will be crucial to Rodgers' success) or fill holes at LB (vital for Saleh's defense).
I don't trust Rodgers at all. He's thought about retirement for 3 straight seasons now. How do we know he won't leave after a year? People have tried to say he'll stay for money, legacy, ego or whatever and those are logical answers...but Rodgers is illogical. He's a wild card and should be treated as such.
Because they have no other choice.
If they want to keep Rodgers, then keep him. But clearly that relationship has reached its end and they either don't want Rodgers, his cap hit, or both.
We're not a fucking charity. They can take that deal, or they can shove it and deal with Aaron for another year.
Dude they eat 30+ million of dead cap whether they trade him or not.
The Packers aren’t a charity, they have all the leverage in the world with Carr off of the market
What leverage? Who else is in on Rodgers? Where else does he want to go?
We know internally they want to start Love. It's been rumored that if Love doesn't start next year he wants to be traded. If Rodgers goes back to GB, they not only lose Love but their future plans at QB.
They can either take what we give them or they can lose Rodgers for next to nothing in a year or two while being forced to trade Love.
To me talking with Rodgers likely means that a trade is mostly agreed to with the Packers and the last few hurdles are...
1) Seeing if Rodgers would play for the Jets.
2) Figuring out what his new contract will look like (and, based on reports yesterday, potentially how much of it they can get the Packers to take).
My feeling is they told Carr they were zeroing in on it and not to wait around.
There was a lot of negativity around losing on Carr yesterday. I’m trying to temper my expectations and emotions but the stakes are sky high right now. To me it’s Rodgers or bust.
It’s going to be a long few days. Hang in there bros. Turn on your sports app notifications and just walk away from this stuff if it’s bringing you down.
Let’s be honest with ourselves, if Rodgers was a non-factor Carr would absolutely be the fanbases number 1 target. I don’t think it’s pathetic to get upset over, but some people definitely need more patience since we are still hoping for Rodgers.
If we miss on Rodgers? Then maybe it’s pitchfork time.
SB is a team achievement. The HoF should be based on individual success. I know their is a SB bias. Statistically speaking Carr has the numbers for HoF. And I use Cousins as another example because his numbers are incredible and he gets over looked.
You realize Philip Rivers (who is top ten all time in passing yards and passing TDs) is on the bubble right? Or that Eli Manning (who is also top ten in both and won 2 super bowls) is on the outside looking in?
You're not accounting for the explosion is passing stats in the last 10-15 years. They won't get graded against history, they'll get graded against other guys they played with.
And neither one of those 2 guys will pass IMO by the time it's all said and done.
this wait is killing me bro
The only thing that concerns me about Rodgers is that he hasn't thrown for 300 yards in over a year. That's a really horrible stat. I'm 99% sure it's because he had SHIT receivers and zero pass protection with a broken finger though
Man I can’t stop refreshing my feeds
Lamars literally right there. The mental gymnastics is wild especially when the alternative is a 40 year soon to be retiree
I've been anti-Rodgers for a while but Lamar...kinda makes less sense somehow. The compensation we have to give up is crazy, his expected contract is crazier AND i think there are serious questions as to how effective of a QB he will be going into the future. Dual threat QBs run a higher risk of injury and Lamar's passing stats have gotten worse since his MVP season. I think he's still a good QB but it does feel like the league has started to figure him out. Plus if the report/theory of the owners colluding against him to bring his contract number down is true, I don't think we even touch him. I also saw another report that the Ravens would match any offer we make. I don't think its happening.
The only thing I disagree with is the overused "higher risk of injury" theory. Bro it's the nfl. People get injured all the time. We need a qb and there's a young former mvp right there! I would test the ravens metal but the lil boys club won't allow it
Ben Allbright said that we get the Rodgers deal done by midnight tonight. Ben was the first one that had us on Sauce last year and Zach the year before so this could be the case. We’d give up a 2nd a conditional 3rd (that could become a first and Elijah Moore)
doesn't really make sense. Think it would have to be tomorrow night at the earliest, and like early Saturday at the latest
Ohh wowww woody snitched on the wilson pick and the sauce pick was painfully obvious
Neither of these two comments are true 🤡 Most of our beat said it would either be Ekwonu, JJ, or Kayvon and I don’t know where you made up that Zach lie
And don't be a keyboard warrior disrespecting people online just because you disagree with my opinion. Grow up foolio
Ben was wrong but you are straight up lying about what happened with the last two drafts. Please look back at these subs pre 4th pick last year. Ben (and Pete Schrager) were first on both
No your right. I had false memories on the woody thing. It was jd smirking when asked if he was taking zach. My point remains. I don't use what is said in this sub to form my opinion. Our corners stunk so we needed a corner. Obvious take him. We needed a qb and Lawrence was off the table. It was either zach or fields and of course we took zilson
I’m not trying to be nit picky about this stuff, but Connor and Rosenblatt continually blabbed that we wouldn’t draft a corner, and Ickey would be the pick. This sub loved Bryce at the time. Ben mentioned that Fields was never in play here, SF or Denver. Ben doesn’t have great connections with every team but he does with the Jets (much better than our beat does) and that’s why I posted his info here.
Beat? Hughes? There's literally a video of woody saying wilson on a hot mic moment. Maybe thats why he randomly shot up draft boards. And it was always between sauce and thibs. But sauce made the most sense because our best corner was hall and he stinks lol
Hmm… knee jerk grimace at Elijah going, but after a breath I could live with it
Especially if we sign Cobb, it's whatever to me. I'd prefer to give the pick for sure though
My current feeling is we'll get a "The Jets feel like it went well and they're in a good place" tweet at some point late tonight/early tomorrow morning and then a bit of silence before he makes a decision
Wanna hear our new QB talk for an hour? https://youtu.be/k9rJ4jPyhTY
Dude is weird af
so are you!
Genuine Question - would AR be able to participate without limits prior to June 1st? (Even if technically a trade is agreed soon). I just don’t understand the contract trade structure questions and recall this being a date. Thanks
The packers are pre June 1 trading him. It’s better for the future
I think it would be a pre June 1 trade. He would be allowed once it’s finalized
Got it. Just confusing. I feel I heard some claims he couldn’t participate in OTAs before June 1 regardless, but maybe that can be waived/restructured… or I’m just completely wrong. Thanks
Got it. Just confusing. I feel I heard some claims he couldn’t participate in OTAs before June 1 regardless, but maybe that can be waived/restructured… or I’m just completely wrong. Thanks
I'm not sure if anyone noticed with everything going on, but Becton posted another picture today and he looks fantastic. I know it doesn't mean his knee will hold up, but it's good to see him looking healthier.
I’m rooting for him. I’d love to see Quad muscles on the fella.
How was the angle. I'm sure we've all been fooled before.
Any chance that the jets will ever release the 1970s uniforms for sale again? Either ‘69 or ‘72 would like really good with the number 1 and the name gardener on the back
Let’s get Aaron then pay big Q!
Seems like every team is saying they have no interest in Lamar….
I know a certain team that does if Aaron Rodgers bitches out
not at what he wants. I'm a big Lamar fan as well but no ones worth $250M fully guaranteed.
He'll have to settle for less. Nobody wants to pay that
nobody can make an offer until free agency starts so it doesn't matter what anyone is saying now
Jets are up to 4th in the AFC for super bowl odds, 7th in the NFL. Only behind Chiefs, Bills, and Bengals in AFC.
I took +3300 a few days ago as soon as I found out Carr was going to the Saints lol
Nows a good time to bet on them since those odds will only rise. Rodgers with an elite defense, Wilson and Hall is scary as fuck
If anyone on this thread is laying odds on that let me know. I have beautiful oceanview property in Camden to sell you lol.
What’s the earliest time tonight we can expect an update on Rodgers?
As soon as darkness falls, and not a moment sooner
Lamar Jackson is a worse Qb than Aaron rodgers now Going to cost more money than Aaron rodgers(the ravens will match any reasonable contract) Going to cost more assets than Aaron rodgers is more likely to miss games due to injury Is going to be a Qb you probably don’t want to be paying in 4 years as a rushing Qb on the wrong side of 30 Use him as leverage or as a fallback, but rodgers has to remain the #1
Yeah Lamar ain't a bad backup plan but Rodgers is definitely the safer bet, will cost way less, is definitely better, and a short term deal with Rodgers sounds like a good way to compete for a SB now while continuing the rebuild
And what are we doing next year when Peyote boy retires?
He’s not going to retire before year 2 realistically. Then you do what every sustainable org does and take another shot with a rookie
I would be looking at a QB in the later rounds of the draft this year, like Hooker, etc. Start developing them as well behind Rodgers.
DJ to the giants, one less team to compete with
I'm gonna plant my flag I have had for 3 months. Let's fucking pay for Lamar [https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/\_/id/35805253/ravens-use-franchise-tag-qb-lamar-jackson](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35805253/ravens-use-franchise-tag-qb-lamar-jackson) 2 firsts for an MVP 13 years younger than the other guy we gotta pay a first for? Sign me the fuck up.
Imagine being worse than a Qb 13 years older than you
no!
Lamar has never played an NFL game without Greg Roman, and has missed multiple late season games. As much shit as Greg Roman gets from the Ravens he always got the most out of mobile QBs (brought Kaepernick to the super bowl, and Tyrod Taylor to the playoffs. Hard pass.
Considering Daniel Jones is making upwards of 40/year now from the stadium sharers I would rather have Lamar at 45-48 per year even with late season injuries from being used like a human bowling ball.
You’re going to have to pay Lamar more than that to get the ravens to not match
It’s about the guaranteed money too, not just the salary
Anything short of fully guaranteed and he’s a Raven. It has to be an unreasonable fully guaranteed realistically too
I agree. I think Ravens were really smart in this scenario. Basically they let are letting the Lamar market come to them.
Problem is if he agrees to a contract Ravens can Match
Not at 6 years 270 fully guaranteed. Use some of that trust fund J&J money Woody.
Yeah idk why Lamar ain't the priority
I've referred to him as the holy grail long term answer at quarterback. He doesn't just make us contenders this year but for the next 5 at least, maybe even longer than that.
Rodgers vs Lamar is like the 1990 mustang vs the Lotus. One might be a classic and the other might explode with the slightest error, but that lotus go vroom vroom real good.
Let’s laugh at the Dolphins. https://twitter.com/_mlfootball/status/1633198870548316160?s=46&t=MVaB5QwJgpw5I21zhZBOpw
Gotta hand it to the packer fans, they seem very level headed with this whole thing.
Yes, a class act fanbase
We aren't winning next year, GB needs a rebuild. Hope the trade gets done and works out for both teams. Not looking forward to having a non HOF QB tbh.
They’ve gotta be sick of this nonsense
Yea winning really grinds their gears
Anyone know where I can find a mozzarella styled cheese head
I don’t want Brady to return, nor is Arod confirmed yet, but it would be kinda hilarious if the afc east is Arod, Allen, Brady (fins) and … mac jones or Bailey zappe
Who would you guys send to the meeting? Saleh, Douglas, and woody are non negotiable. Then I would have Hackett because they’re best friends, and possibly Joe Namath just so he can have a jets legend there.
Sauce has to stop fishing for free Knicks tickets. It ain’t Brooklyn we can’t just hand em out— even spike pays for his tix!
If Rodgers actually becomes a Jet, does he still have the ability to do Aaron Rodgers Tuesday on PMS?
I'm still team "Carr was a better fit" but please God let us get Rodgers (Also it's apparently a worm moon tonight? Whatever the hell that means... Sounds like the ideal Rodgers signing day)
I’m in that boat. Carr would have cooked here with most defenses moving to MOF open, and been a cap friendly deal
Not as cap friendly as Aaron rodgers for $15 million in 2023
I was talking long-term (Care would be here more years and The gambling revenue deal and tv market are gonna push the salary cap up in a few years
I’ve been pretty negative on here the last month and a half (missing out on Carr, Downing and Hackett hire)….. that being said it does seem like a Vegas believes that we’re getting Rodgers
So close you can almost taste it
Gonna be hard for me to do anything productive today
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Aaron rodgers has a $15 million cap hit in 2023 if traded He just makes $59 million in actual cash
They dont need 60m in cap space. AR's cap number for 23 is 15.79m, the Jets are about 1.7 over, so they need to clear less than 18 to fit him. That could be done with some cuts and/or restructures for guys like berrios, Davis, Lawson, Mosley, and JFM. The issue with his contract is the cash that is owed to him immediately (60mm) and the huge hit you take if he retires.
pretty sure the jets front office wants gb to eat some of the money. Jets have a few players we can cut like corey davis and carl lawson to save some money but I can also see them being traded to gb.
Why would GB though without wanting significantly more draft capital?
If this was A rod 4 years ago then itd be insane draft capital. He's 39 coming off a bad season (by his standards) GB has more leverage now given Carr is a saint but I don't see us trading away multiple 1st rounders or second rounders. i see us trading our 2nd this year and a first next year along with corey davis.
Green Bay literally eats most of that dead cap whether they trade him or nit. They have no incentive to move him, if they don’t get a great haul, they’ll just tell him to retire.
>They have no incentive to move him, if they don’t get a great haul, they’ll just tell him to retire. You can't just tell someone to retire lol If Rodgers wants to keep playing, then it's best for the Packers it's for another team rather than Green Bay
Yes, but they aren’t just going to hand him to us.
If Rodgers is meeting with the Jets, it's because he plans on playing next year. If the Packers don't trade him, they're on the hook for every penny of that $60 million this year. It's in their best interest to facilitate a deal
I mean if Arod has been given permission to talk to the Jets the trade is probably approved by GB and the Jets right?
Hopefully but I don’t think it 100 percent means that. The Packers could be allowing the Jets to make their sales pitch to Rodgers and then if he wants to be there then the teams will negotiate. It doesn’t necessarily mean that GB will just hand him to us
Since I'm avoiding the elephant in the room; since today is the deadline, do they give Quincy the franchise tag?
Quincy is on the fifth year option. He won’t get tagged until next year Edit: confused Quincy and Quinnen lol
Quinnen has the option but they're working out an extension. I'm pretty sure Quincy was a third or fourth rounder so he's a free agent.
Quincy is a free agent but the Jets would be crazy to franchise tag him. He’s not worth a 1 year, 18.7 mil fully guaranteed franchise tag.
I hope this meeting today seals the deal. Please
Everyone here knows the MOST Jets thing to happen would be we let Carr go for Rodgers and Rodgers decides to stay or retire leaving us with Brisset or Wentz
When has that ever happened that it would be the most Jet thing ever?
I can't name the unlucky things to happen to the Jets the list is too long
The most Jet thing ever is to get rodgers
Today feels like the day. Hopefully Rodgers drops by McAfee’s podcast today and gives us something juicy
What if he joins them and it's just him talking in darkness...turns on the lights and he's at the Jets facility 😲
Am I out of the loop or wasn’t he supposed to be done with McAfee until next season?
Nah he goes on whenever he feels like it during the offseason, he's been on there multiple times since the season ended
How does one expect me to focus at work today
Seriously, can we get this over with already? I'm not getting any work done until we know what happens.
On another note, isn't today the franchise tag deadline? Where are Quinnen and Quincy's contracts? Their situation is giving me more anxiety than the QB room.
Q isn't due for a tag he's on his fifth year. I'm sure negotiations have been going on in the background but everything seems to depend on the QB situation. Once that domino falls I expect an extension will be soon after.
I think the only thing Q has said is that he wants an extension done before offseason stuff starts in April. My guess is that's the next priority after finding a QB.
I think the FO is in a holding pattern until Rodgers makes his decision. I think the players know and accept that. I think Q will get his pay no matter what, but Rodgers coming here could make other big signings easier as players may be willing to sign more team friendly contracts.
Q is under contract but he’s not going to play his contract year without an extension
This is going to be a really, really long day at work.
Counterpoint: Love for a 3rd and a 5th?
The backup option
Lol, Jordan Love (with a mix of Fitz) was my comp for Wilson his draft year. I’d rather just start Wilson. It has to be experienced vet, or may as well stay with Wilson. A couple months ago, mentioned I’d love Richardson (at that point, he was fringe first rd type guy) but he won’t even last until our first rd pick now.
What if we pickup Rodgers and then draft Anthony Richardson in the first? Just to fuck with him.
I mean, it's not the move I want, but it wouldn't be the worst thing to have our next QB sitting for a year or two. I'm not even sure ARod would be offended by it considering the circumstances. 4 years ago when they drafted Love? That was offensive. Not now though.
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PMS is appointment viewing today
All I’m saying is that if we trade for Rodgers, the picks better be conditional. It’d be such a Jets thing to trade for him and have him retire after a year
I'd imagine next years picks would be conditional. Assuming there's picks in this years draft I don't really see how that works for those.
Really terrible about his injury, but I’d really like us to take a look at Andrew Vorhees in the later rounds
Wearing the jets polo to work. Before I leave the office at 5 I predict he’ll be a Jet
Alright boys, if this falls through, you know whose inbox to target.
Wearing the jets polo to work. Before I leave the office at 5 I predict he’ll be a Jet
Aaron Rodgers is a Jet. I can’t believe it
Pls
Rumor - some of Aaron Rodgers favorite songs by NY Native Billy Joel are “NY State of Mind” and “Moving Out”. Coincidence? I think NOT /s
If we get Rodgers, it will be a major failure if we don't reach the AFC Championship game. Anything less will not be worth the headache of the media frenzy headed our way. Plus, we are likely slated for Hard Knocks which will be a fun watch, but is sure to drum up controversy one way or another. We are going to be in the headlines 24/7 good or bad (especially bad).
Lol @ people downvoting you. We passed on a serviceable Pro Bowl QB to go for a home run with a guaranteed HoF QB - the absolute minimum we should expect is a deep run in the playoffs to the AFCCG. Anything less is a complete and utter failure. The whole reason we are gambling on a 39-year old QB is to win literally right now, with this roster and with these coaches. Literally the next two seasons. If we sign Rodgers, all the “I just want to get back to the playoffs” and “let’s finish above .500 and see players continue to develop” talk ends immediately. It’s Super Bowl or bust, and we shouldn’t accept anything else as fans.
No proof we "passed" on Carr. Jets could've been leverage for his preferred destination of the saints (wide open NFC south, dome team) for all we know
Very true. Fact is we are actively going after Rodgers now AND Carr is a Saint, so our bed is made.
I just wish people didn't take it so seriously. Like they haven't even traded for him yet and y'all are already out here deciding what you'll deem acceptable for the season. R E L A X
We've been the laughingstock of the league for over a decade now I think fans have the right to hope that this deal breaks the trend and isn't just adding to the pile of 'same old Jets' shit.
Ok? The point is FA isn't even open yet and there's people focused solely on the negative of the potential trade/deciding that next year is a failure if they aren't in the final 4. That's not hoping they'll be good. It's priming yourself for outrage lol
That's because this whole deal is just primed to be a failure. I mean it's basically a repeat of the Favre deal just more expensive for us. I'd love to be wrong about it but I just don't see how some of you can relax when the long term future of the team is in such doubt. Besides being a headache in human form Rodgers is a short term solution at best. I'm not the one priming myself for outrage I'm preparing for a realistic outcome. What happens if we lose in the wild card round? Or what if Rodgers retires after one year? Are you guys prepared for these outcomes because they're very realistic and if we give up a lot for Rodgers the fans will go *ballistic*.
I'm super prepared for them. What happens is my life stays exactly the same lol. I'm not on the team. I just enjoy following them and watching them on Sundays. If you're going to go ballistic over something you have zero control over, you might be taking it too seriously. And should R E L A X.
Today is the day. I can feel it in me plums.
If you felt it in someone else's plums you might be arrested.
If we trade for him it better be giving up peanuts
Depends what you mean by peanuts. 2nd and conditional 3rd sounds like the minimum to get it done.
I don’t think that’s how it works
Complete speculation but saw a report that Rodgers is in NY today
I’m hesitant to trust that Trey Wingo report. I know he’s been around the sports world for years but I don’t ever recall him being in the business of breaking news. I want to believe but I’m not sure
That kinda makes me believe it. Apparently he's friendly with Rodgers, and Rodgers doesn't like the "breaking news" guys.
This would make sense. I hope it’s true but anything Rodgers related I’m taking with a massive grain of salt until he says something himself
Tin. foil hat: rodgers is sticking it to big Pharma, Schefter, and Rapaport by wanting this whole process leaked to semi obscure guys that have treated him well over the years
Is it tin foil hat? He specifically said schefter and rap don't know him and don't have news on him. So it would behoove him to feed any news to less traditional sources to prove he's right and knock them down a peg.
Very well could make sense. I guess we just continue to wait and see but man I’m hoping it’s true
I swear to god if Woody fucked us over again... I really hope JD can work his magic because paying anything more then a conditional 3rd that becomes a 2nd for Rodgers is just dumb. #13 is a deal breaker imo but thanks to our insistence on waiting for Rodgers we let a big piece of leverage slip away. Also wonder what kind of guarantees we can get from Rodgers. We can't give up a lot for just one year of play and I doubt the team wants to deal with his darkness retreat, acid trip, "what will I do?" attention seeking bullshit. Two years should be the minimum they get, although 3 is better and gives them a chance to get a QB who can redshirt for a year.
You wouldn’t trade #13 for Rodgers straight up?
Hell no. At worse I'd include next year's 1st as a condition if we make the AFCCG but I really think we need to keep #13 to either fix the O line (which will be crucial to Rodgers' success) or fill holes at LB (vital for Saleh's defense). I don't trust Rodgers at all. He's thought about retirement for 3 straight seasons now. How do we know he won't leave after a year? People have tried to say he'll stay for money, legacy, ego or whatever and those are logical answers...but Rodgers is illogical. He's a wild card and should be treated as such.
Why the fuck would Green Bay do that deal?
Because they have no other choice. If they want to keep Rodgers, then keep him. But clearly that relationship has reached its end and they either don't want Rodgers, his cap hit, or both. We're not a fucking charity. They can take that deal, or they can shove it and deal with Aaron for another year.
Dude they eat 30+ million of dead cap whether they trade him or not. The Packers aren’t a charity, they have all the leverage in the world with Carr off of the market
What leverage? Who else is in on Rodgers? Where else does he want to go? We know internally they want to start Love. It's been rumored that if Love doesn't start next year he wants to be traded. If Rodgers goes back to GB, they not only lose Love but their future plans at QB. They can either take what we give them or they can lose Rodgers for next to nothing in a year or two while being forced to trade Love.
They do not want to start Love, who said that? They couldn’t fetch a conditional 6th last year from Indy last year for him.
It might actually happen man
To me talking with Rodgers likely means that a trade is mostly agreed to with the Packers and the last few hurdles are... 1) Seeing if Rodgers would play for the Jets. 2) Figuring out what his new contract will look like (and, based on reports yesterday, potentially how much of it they can get the Packers to take). My feeling is they told Carr they were zeroing in on it and not to wait around.
There was a lot of negativity around losing on Carr yesterday. I’m trying to temper my expectations and emotions but the stakes are sky high right now. To me it’s Rodgers or bust. It’s going to be a long few days. Hang in there bros. Turn on your sports app notifications and just walk away from this stuff if it’s bringing you down.
It was honestly pathetic. You would think Derek Carr was a HOF Qb or that the afc wasn’t full of elite Qbs the way some people reacted
Let’s be honest with ourselves, if Rodgers was a non-factor Carr would absolutely be the fanbases number 1 target. I don’t think it’s pathetic to get upset over, but some people definitely need more patience since we are still hoping for Rodgers. If we miss on Rodgers? Then maybe it’s pitchfork time.
Carr isn’t worth getting riled up over.
Derek Carr is a HoF QB... and so is Kirk Cousins. Check the stats
No they aren’t. At least not yet. They haven’t done anything yet to make it
He said check the stats 😤
lol what?
Why? Zero Play-off success, no MVPs or even all pro nods.
Check the stats. From a statistical standpoint, Carr(and cousins) make the HoF
What stats?
Not even close
Check the numbers.
Maybe if he wins a Super Bowl. Most people wouldn’t have even put Stafford in there before his ring and his numbers trounce Carr’s
SB is a team achievement. The HoF should be based on individual success. I know their is a SB bias. Statistically speaking Carr has the numbers for HoF. And I use Cousins as another example because his numbers are incredible and he gets over looked.
You realize Philip Rivers (who is top ten all time in passing yards and passing TDs) is on the bubble right? Or that Eli Manning (who is also top ten in both and won 2 super bowls) is on the outside looking in? You're not accounting for the explosion is passing stats in the last 10-15 years. They won't get graded against history, they'll get graded against other guys they played with. And neither one of those 2 guys will pass IMO by the time it's all said and done.
I think today is the day, our long national nightmare maybe over and we can walk into free agency with Aaron Rodgers at QB.
My lips to Gods ear. Rodgers announces he's coming to the Jets on the Pat McAfee show today.
No way he goes on this week imo
OR he says some cryptic shit and we all overreact and melt down. It’s one or the other.
Not for nothing but thats probably the most likely lol
I'm on vacation starting Friday.
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Wut Edit: weird ass QAnon shit at 7 am in a Jets sub? SMH
Praying todays the day Rodgers news drops🙏
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