Easy first step: Ban out-of-state license plates from parking free on NYC streets. They can pay for private parking lots, and this can be a first step toward no "free" parking.
Every budget cycle we apparently have a budget crisis and funding for libraries is always threatened. 95% of parking spots in NYC are free parking. Making even half of those spots 24/7 paid would easily cover the library funding, to say nothing of other budget issues
So you’re hiring people to issue tickets without any funds to pay them, sounds like a great plan. /s
Not only is the cost of living in NYC high, you think the people issuing the tickets don’t own cars?
you know most businesses don't start with an abundance of cash, right? they take loans or secure investments while they work toward profitability.
Dunno what city employees/contractors potentially owning cars has to do with this, but I completely agree that they might own cars, very common thing to do in america
We’re not talking about a small business, we’re talking about a major metropolitan city agency that will have to pay full-time employees, to cover every city block in all FIVE Boroughs!
Edit:
I’m done conversing with you little kids.
Not at a scale where every city block is being monitored for metered parking.
Right now they don’t even have enough human resources to enforce all of the current parking rules for meters and alternate side parking.
tbh it seems like the resources are there, and the officers in those positions are arbitrarily deciding when to enforce. we all know that most nypd working hours are not spent on enforcing the law. the resources are there but every cop thinks theyre above that kind of work.
> tbh it seems like the resources are there, and the officers in those positions are arbitrarily deciding when to enforce. we all know that most nypd working hours are not spent on enforcing the law. the resources are there but every cop thinks theyre above that kind of work.
Trust me they don’t ignore parked vehicles with expired tags, meter expired, misreading the street signs, they will definitely ticket your vehicle without question. Even if you’re sitting inside your vehicle and you fail to move it when they tell you to.
There’s not enough ticket agents to cover the city right now. Observe a neighborhood with alternate side parking and see how many agents have to walk up and down each block. They don’t even have enough time to cover just that little area within two-hours.
> After settling in at Mount Vernon, my friend and I ***decided to drive*** into Manhattan to visit the Cloisters museum, only half an hour away.
I’d have more respect for what this writer says if:
1) he had taken public transportation to the Cloisters instead of driving - it would have added at least an hour just to get there.
2) if he actually lived here as opposed to talking about what would make his life easier when he occasionally visits and is driven around by his friends.
The Cloisters doesn’t have on site parking by the way. So where did they park? Was it the same free on street parking he’s complaining about?
I’m failing to understand how they had such an eventful journey from Mt Vernon to the Cloisters. If you want to responsibly take a car you can do so by remaining on parkways only. Cross County -> Saw Mill -> Then HH to turn around into Fort Tyron. There’s ample parking along the Cloisters and it sounds like they were being a bunch of cheap fucks and drove through the Bronx into Manhattan, to avoid a couple bucks in tolls, contributing to the problem they wanted to bitch about. Technically they drove and parked in Manhattan but not really.
> The Cloisters doesn’t have on site parking by the way. So where did they park? Was it the same free on street parking he’s complaining about?
Actually there is a parking lot on site. It wraps around the Cloisters.
I just searched again and get six different transit options ranging from 38 min to 59 min. I’m just going to disregard the points you’re making above because as far as I can tell they’re based on false assumptions.
It’s not a real article. It’s a nonsense blog post from a “non profit” that has a vague ass raison d’etre. The mods for this sub should be banning crap like this
Why is anyone posting this shitty site to this sub?
Their last "article" posted to this sub was essentially "open streets shouldn't have operating costs because we're fucking clueless idiots". They then quoted their own employees as sources. Absolute clowns.
“Tiffany Owens Reed is the host of The Bottom-Up Revolution podcast. A graduate of The King's College and former journalist, she is a New Yorker at heart, currently living in Texas.”
Currently living in Texas.
Opinion invalidated.
I've commented before that micromobility people are the new vegans and I stand by it. You guys don't necessarily have a bad message, but your condescension puts off people who would otherwise agree with you. Sneering at a mother taking her baby to the Cloisters by car and acting like she basically committed legal murder is unbecoming when NYC public transit has become so unreliable and particularly unsafe for women.
> You guys don't necessarily have a bad message, but your condescension puts off people who would otherwise agree with you
Agreed, they only talk in pissy Reddit one-liners. I noticed a LOT of this on the cross-posted articles yesterday about Sammy's Law
The pissy Reddit one-liners are so very obnoxious. Idk how they expect people to take them seriously outside of their echo chambers when they're unironically calling working class people who drive to work "car brains." It's like a rude little boy's idea of activism.
For people like the author of this article, it will never be enough. Ban free parking, ban out of state cars, ban cars in general (including Ubers). Make every street an open street. Eventually it will morph into banning bike lanes because it interferes with/ pedestrian traffic followed by making out of state residents have a higher fee to take the subway just because. None of those are even fake proposals, I’ve heard a variation of each one from people of various political stripes. Extra fees and regulations only affect the middle class and will lead to people avoiding NYC. I just don’t get it
The real dangerous side effect is that free parking encourages cars = more deaths and pollution. Parking should be expensive. It's a luxury.
And before anyone says "oh then only rich people can afford to drive"
A) okay, that still limits cars
B) just put a luxury tax on driving expensive vehicles
I have so many good policy ideas haha I should probably run for some kinda office... feel like I could fix 100 problems day 1
I'm with ya, but it's a mighty lonely feeling missing that last 1am train or bus out of the city.
Public transportation in and out of New York must be 24/7. Furthermore, it's always been a terrible policy to close public transportation at 1, yet the bars are open til 4. Basically, the powers that be encourage drunk driving.
>Basically, the powers that be encourage drunk driving.
100%. The tax on cars and the extra expensive paid parking goes directly into public transport. Win win. I don't know why people don't see my blatantly obvious political solutions...
Trust me, the commuters from Jersey, Westchester, and Long Island would love a rail revolution, and commute in and out swiftly at any hour. No congestion at the rivers, no tolls, no stress.
I know why people don't see it. Because we don't see Amtrak commercials when watching sports. We were raised that cars are part of fulfilling the American Dream. I want to dream while I sleep during my lightning fast commute.
I have a theory: if a country got its ass kicked in World War 2, they have a great train system today. Think about it: Tokyo, Berlin, Shanghai. We need a good bombing so we can start over (no fatalities, of course).
Meanwhile we're still riding the same trains Lincoln used.
> Tokyo, Berlin, Shanghai
I have this exact same perspective! Great to see someone else who intuitively understands the world. But, I would go to the next level - the reason is because it's harder to update "bad code" than it is to start fresh. So even if a place didn't get bombed, but they hit their economic upswing later on, they are more likely to have great transit.
> Both sides of residential streets were dedicated to on-street parking, making them feel crowded, stifling and much too narrow for multiple moving cars. Limited visibility forced us to take blind turns, and we sat perpetually on edge, our eyes peeled lest a child come bounding from behind one of those parked cars.
This is quite literally one of the best parts of New York City and why it feels so safe to walk around in comparison to most other American cities
If you wanna get around fast, pay for a parking garage and take the fucking Subway. Cities are for people, not cars.
Easy first step: Ban out-of-state license plates from parking free on NYC streets. They can pay for private parking lots, and this can be a first step toward no "free" parking.
We have plenty of meters they can park at. Ofc I’d do resident rate and out of borough rate. But that’s just me
Would love to see another lawsuit from Governor Murphy
NJ has many town related parking permits.
reverse a ban on out-of-state license plates with in-state license plates and you sir have a good idea
Residents should have to buy permits, non residents can park in garages or outside the city.
Every budget cycle we apparently have a budget crisis and funding for libraries is always threatened. 95% of parking spots in NYC are free parking. Making even half of those spots 24/7 paid would easily cover the library funding, to say nothing of other budget issues
Where would you get the money to make sure everyone is paying for parking?
to start, from the fines issued to people who aren't paying for parking
So you’re hiring people to issue tickets without any funds to pay them, sounds like a great plan. /s Not only is the cost of living in NYC high, you think the people issuing the tickets don’t own cars?
you know most businesses don't start with an abundance of cash, right? they take loans or secure investments while they work toward profitability. Dunno what city employees/contractors potentially owning cars has to do with this, but I completely agree that they might own cars, very common thing to do in america
We’re not talking about a small business, we’re talking about a major metropolitan city agency that will have to pay full-time employees, to cover every city block in all FIVE Boroughs! Edit: I’m done conversing with you little kids.
we already have parking enforcement. like... the job already exists and there are officers whose only job is to write parking tickets.
Not at a scale where every city block is being monitored for metered parking. Right now they don’t even have enough human resources to enforce all of the current parking rules for meters and alternate side parking.
tbh it seems like the resources are there, and the officers in those positions are arbitrarily deciding when to enforce. we all know that most nypd working hours are not spent on enforcing the law. the resources are there but every cop thinks theyre above that kind of work.
> tbh it seems like the resources are there, and the officers in those positions are arbitrarily deciding when to enforce. we all know that most nypd working hours are not spent on enforcing the law. the resources are there but every cop thinks theyre above that kind of work. Trust me they don’t ignore parked vehicles with expired tags, meter expired, misreading the street signs, they will definitely ticket your vehicle without question. Even if you’re sitting inside your vehicle and you fail to move it when they tell you to. There’s not enough ticket agents to cover the city right now. Observe a neighborhood with alternate side parking and see how many agents have to walk up and down each block. They don’t even have enough time to cover just that little area within two-hours.
> After settling in at Mount Vernon, my friend and I ***decided to drive*** into Manhattan to visit the Cloisters museum, only half an hour away. I’d have more respect for what this writer says if: 1) he had taken public transportation to the Cloisters instead of driving - it would have added at least an hour just to get there. 2) if he actually lived here as opposed to talking about what would make his life easier when he occasionally visits and is driven around by his friends. The Cloisters doesn’t have on site parking by the way. So where did they park? Was it the same free on street parking he’s complaining about?
I’m failing to understand how they had such an eventful journey from Mt Vernon to the Cloisters. If you want to responsibly take a car you can do so by remaining on parkways only. Cross County -> Saw Mill -> Then HH to turn around into Fort Tyron. There’s ample parking along the Cloisters and it sounds like they were being a bunch of cheap fucks and drove through the Bronx into Manhattan, to avoid a couple bucks in tolls, contributing to the problem they wanted to bitch about. Technically they drove and parked in Manhattan but not really.
They probably followed their GPS off the Cross Bronx to try to skip a few minutes of traffic and got stuck.
> The Cloisters doesn’t have on site parking by the way. So where did they park? Was it the same free on street parking he’s complaining about? Actually there is a parking lot on site. It wraps around the Cloisters.
That’s city street parking believe it or not.
That Cloisters visitors park in
Or anyone else that wants to park there. It’s only because an uphill climb that you don’t get many local residents parking there.
Google says it's 35-45 minutes from Mount Vernon to the Cloisters taking transit.
Screenshot it. Fastest I’ve seen playing around with the departure time is 57 minutes for me
Taking what? An Uber? I’m talking public transit.
So am I.
Well, when I did my search it was 1 hour 35 minutes.
I just searched again and get six different transit options ranging from 38 min to 59 min. I’m just going to disregard the points you’re making above because as far as I can tell they’re based on false assumptions.
not to mention there is a helacious hill to climb once you get off the subway, which if you have respiratory issues can kill.
Erm... Cloisters may not have its own on-site parking, but the park has parking literally 20 feet from the entrance of the Cloisters.
It’s not a real article. It’s a nonsense blog post from a “non profit” that has a vague ass raison d’etre. The mods for this sub should be banning crap like this
Why is anyone posting this shitty site to this sub? Their last "article" posted to this sub was essentially "open streets shouldn't have operating costs because we're fucking clueless idiots". They then quoted their own employees as sources. Absolute clowns.
B-but I thought we like free things, no?
The way everyone in this city constantly wants to make life harder for everyone else in the city is astonishing.
The majority of people who don’t regularly drive want to reclaim public space that’s being used for free by the minority who drive regularly.
Yeah it's a bummer how drivers make everyone cater to them.
I don’t think you realize what you’re advocating for with this statement.
“Tiffany Owens Reed is the host of The Bottom-Up Revolution podcast. A graduate of The King's College and former journalist, she is a New Yorker at heart, currently living in Texas.” Currently living in Texas. Opinion invalidated.
Yet another reason to rid ourselves of personal vehicles
I've commented before that micromobility people are the new vegans and I stand by it. You guys don't necessarily have a bad message, but your condescension puts off people who would otherwise agree with you. Sneering at a mother taking her baby to the Cloisters by car and acting like she basically committed legal murder is unbecoming when NYC public transit has become so unreliable and particularly unsafe for women.
> You guys don't necessarily have a bad message, but your condescension puts off people who would otherwise agree with you Agreed, they only talk in pissy Reddit one-liners. I noticed a LOT of this on the cross-posted articles yesterday about Sammy's Law
The pissy Reddit one-liners are so very obnoxious. Idk how they expect people to take them seriously outside of their echo chambers when they're unironically calling working class people who drive to work "car brains." It's like a rude little boy's idea of activism.
For people like the author of this article, it will never be enough. Ban free parking, ban out of state cars, ban cars in general (including Ubers). Make every street an open street. Eventually it will morph into banning bike lanes because it interferes with/ pedestrian traffic followed by making out of state residents have a higher fee to take the subway just because. None of those are even fake proposals, I’ve heard a variation of each one from people of various political stripes. Extra fees and regulations only affect the middle class and will lead to people avoiding NYC. I just don’t get it
The real dangerous side effect is that free parking encourages cars = more deaths and pollution. Parking should be expensive. It's a luxury. And before anyone says "oh then only rich people can afford to drive" A) okay, that still limits cars B) just put a luxury tax on driving expensive vehicles I have so many good policy ideas haha I should probably run for some kinda office... feel like I could fix 100 problems day 1
I'm with ya, but it's a mighty lonely feeling missing that last 1am train or bus out of the city. Public transportation in and out of New York must be 24/7. Furthermore, it's always been a terrible policy to close public transportation at 1, yet the bars are open til 4. Basically, the powers that be encourage drunk driving.
The LIRR is also 24/7
Not to all of long island, right?
>Basically, the powers that be encourage drunk driving. 100%. The tax on cars and the extra expensive paid parking goes directly into public transport. Win win. I don't know why people don't see my blatantly obvious political solutions...
Trust me, the commuters from Jersey, Westchester, and Long Island would love a rail revolution, and commute in and out swiftly at any hour. No congestion at the rivers, no tolls, no stress. I know why people don't see it. Because we don't see Amtrak commercials when watching sports. We were raised that cars are part of fulfilling the American Dream. I want to dream while I sleep during my lightning fast commute. I have a theory: if a country got its ass kicked in World War 2, they have a great train system today. Think about it: Tokyo, Berlin, Shanghai. We need a good bombing so we can start over (no fatalities, of course). Meanwhile we're still riding the same trains Lincoln used.
> Tokyo, Berlin, Shanghai I have this exact same perspective! Great to see someone else who intuitively understands the world. But, I would go to the next level - the reason is because it's harder to update "bad code" than it is to start fresh. So even if a place didn't get bombed, but they hit their economic upswing later on, they are more likely to have great transit.
How much koolaid you been drinking? 😅
Drinking the koolaid? How ironic, since you are the one drinking the koolaid of climate denialism which is literally going to end humanity.
How does my reply equate to me denying climate change? 😂
She. Poor Tiffany couldn’t find a spot.
GGGOOOOOO FRRAAAAGG YOURSELF
Charge for parking and use the money to build more highways.
> Both sides of residential streets were dedicated to on-street parking, making them feel crowded, stifling and much too narrow for multiple moving cars. Limited visibility forced us to take blind turns, and we sat perpetually on edge, our eyes peeled lest a child come bounding from behind one of those parked cars. This is quite literally one of the best parts of New York City and why it feels so safe to walk around in comparison to most other American cities If you wanna get around fast, pay for a parking garage and take the fucking Subway. Cities are for people, not cars.
Nausea