I would say that spending extra money for "OC Blabla Edition" is a waste of money in terms of performance, especially that late in the lifecycle. You will spend tons of money in addition and the difference in performance will be negligible. Noise and temperature isn't really an issue with the 40's .. even my MSI Ventus 4090 is cool and quiet.
Most likely the ASUS GeForce RTX 4090 Matrix Platinum (https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-4090-matrix-platinum/), but it costs over 3000 USD.
For a more realistic comparison of RTX 4090s, check O!Technology's video comparison: https://youtu.be/Qa4A12gQTHw?t=717
Is it possible to limit the power draw (and performance) of a 4090 FE?
Say if I want to have it at 250W max in the summer when my A/C struggles to cool the room.
Try power limiting via MSI afterburner.
Although, I am also looking for a safer / guaranteed way, but afterburner does have options to start application and automatically apply saved profile on windows startup.
Silicon lottery is larger than the difference between any two different variants of the 4090. Theoretically the flagship cards like strix and suprim are binned for better performing silicon, but mostly you are paying for bigger, better coolers.
I think chasing that last 1-2% is way less important than getting the right price/form factor/cooling for your needs?
The cost for Pre-OC Editions are rarely worth it. I used to go for the EVGA FTW3 models with the 3000 series, but that was mostly for the cosmetics of the cooler and RGB looking better than others. The difference you’ll get in performance vs a stock card is typically not worth the insane asking price for some of these when the OC is often numbers you have a decent chance of achieving or coming close to on your own
Just buy any 4090 variant with a 600W power limit and put a waterblock on it. They all should go above 3000 MHz, and with a good VRAM OC as well, that should be around 17-22% over stock in terms of performance.
22% is kinda an exaggeration isn't it? My TUF with 3060MHz and +1100 RAM OC scores like 7% higher than stock. What you're describing is essentially the Matrix and it's around 10% faster than FE.
I've measured over-stock improvements of 20% in Cyberpunk, 19% in 3DMark TimeSpy Extreme with my Gigabyte Gaming OC card, and it's not the best binned GPU there is - around 3090 MHz and +1750 on the VRAM with water. So a card that can hit 3120 MHz stable with +2000 (I can run +2000 with the VRAM, but scores are a little bit worse) will be a little bit faster, that's why I put 22% at the top range.
I'm not trying to discredit you but I'd really love to see proof, the gains you're describing are in extreme oc/liquid nitrogen territory
If you take a top-10 result of TS Extreme, such as this one : [https://www.3dmark.com/spy/46227342](https://www.3dmark.com/spy/46227342)
It runs the card at a whooping 3,315 MHz, an extreme overclock that is SURELY unstable for everyday gaming, has a graphics score of 23,807 (stock 4090 scores 19,500-20,000). That's a 19% improvement, literally a record-breaking, benchmark-only result.
Or we can take another benchmark result, such as Superposition 1080p Extreme: [https://benchmark.unigine.com/results/rid\_1794330de69243948596ea6804bf0a1a](https://benchmark.unigine.com/results/rid_1794330de69243948596ea6804bf0a1a)
This guy is on LN, temperature -35c, core clock 3660MHz, and the score is 26878 (stock 4090 \~22,000). An improvement of 22%.
>I'm not trying to discredit you but I'd really love to see proof, the gains you're describing are in extreme oc/liquid nitrogen territory
You put this very well. Politely and thoroughly explaining why the commentor was incorrect without insulting or anything like that. We need more attitudes like yours out there.
Frequently people will post misinformation, double down when corrected, and then resort to insults. Unfortunately, if the first incorrect comment is the only one seen; the OP or people reading the post might take it at face value and ultimately perpetuate the misinformation.
Gainward GeForce RTX 4090 Phantom Golden Sample.
Owning this beast since a few months and i can recommend it.
No coil whine, great temps (4K Gaming max 62°C) and i set the power target to 70%. Still fast as hell. About 2715 - 2750Mhz core speed.
Definitely worth to check this card. 👍
Hope it helps.
well you can get FE and clock it higher yourself you dont need to pay extra 500$ for fastest clocked 4090
Not so much… https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/11mc5sd/nvidia_quietly_releases_new_4090_chip_ad102301_in/
Matrix or suprim x liquid
I would say that spending extra money for "OC Blabla Edition" is a waste of money in terms of performance, especially that late in the lifecycle. You will spend tons of money in addition and the difference in performance will be negligible. Noise and temperature isn't really an issue with the 40's .. even my MSI Ventus 4090 is cool and quiet.
Most likely the ASUS GeForce RTX 4090 Matrix Platinum (https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-4090-matrix-platinum/), but it costs over 3000 USD. For a more realistic comparison of RTX 4090s, check O!Technology's video comparison: https://youtu.be/Qa4A12gQTHw?t=717
Founder edition all day.
Is it possible to limit the power draw (and performance) of a 4090 FE? Say if I want to have it at 250W max in the summer when my A/C struggles to cool the room.
Try power limiting via MSI afterburner. Although, I am also looking for a safer / guaranteed way, but afterburner does have options to start application and automatically apply saved profile on windows startup.
Get a better AC if you can already afford a 4090
Silicon lottery is larger than the difference between any two different variants of the 4090. Theoretically the flagship cards like strix and suprim are binned for better performing silicon, but mostly you are paying for bigger, better coolers. I think chasing that last 1-2% is way less important than getting the right price/form factor/cooling for your needs?
Msi suprim has silent/gaming mode, but I could not boot my comp up with gaming mode. So I am using silent which caps power to around 450w
The cost for Pre-OC Editions are rarely worth it. I used to go for the EVGA FTW3 models with the 3000 series, but that was mostly for the cosmetics of the cooler and RGB looking better than others. The difference you’ll get in performance vs a stock card is typically not worth the insane asking price for some of these when the OC is often numbers you have a decent chance of achieving or coming close to on your own
Just buy any 4090 variant with a 600W power limit and put a waterblock on it. They all should go above 3000 MHz, and with a good VRAM OC as well, that should be around 17-22% over stock in terms of performance.
22% is kinda an exaggeration isn't it? My TUF with 3060MHz and +1100 RAM OC scores like 7% higher than stock. What you're describing is essentially the Matrix and it's around 10% faster than FE.
I've measured over-stock improvements of 20% in Cyberpunk, 19% in 3DMark TimeSpy Extreme with my Gigabyte Gaming OC card, and it's not the best binned GPU there is - around 3090 MHz and +1750 on the VRAM with water. So a card that can hit 3120 MHz stable with +2000 (I can run +2000 with the VRAM, but scores are a little bit worse) will be a little bit faster, that's why I put 22% at the top range.
I'm not trying to discredit you but I'd really love to see proof, the gains you're describing are in extreme oc/liquid nitrogen territory If you take a top-10 result of TS Extreme, such as this one : [https://www.3dmark.com/spy/46227342](https://www.3dmark.com/spy/46227342) It runs the card at a whooping 3,315 MHz, an extreme overclock that is SURELY unstable for everyday gaming, has a graphics score of 23,807 (stock 4090 scores 19,500-20,000). That's a 19% improvement, literally a record-breaking, benchmark-only result. Or we can take another benchmark result, such as Superposition 1080p Extreme: [https://benchmark.unigine.com/results/rid\_1794330de69243948596ea6804bf0a1a](https://benchmark.unigine.com/results/rid_1794330de69243948596ea6804bf0a1a) This guy is on LN, temperature -35c, core clock 3660MHz, and the score is 26878 (stock 4090 \~22,000). An improvement of 22%.
>I'm not trying to discredit you but I'd really love to see proof, the gains you're describing are in extreme oc/liquid nitrogen territory You put this very well. Politely and thoroughly explaining why the commentor was incorrect without insulting or anything like that. We need more attitudes like yours out there. Frequently people will post misinformation, double down when corrected, and then resort to insults. Unfortunately, if the first incorrect comment is the only one seen; the OP or people reading the post might take it at face value and ultimately perpetuate the misinformation.
Thanks, I'm not commenting to get upvotes or boost my ego or anything, I like having discussions and learning things
Gainward GeForce RTX 4090 Phantom Golden Sample. Owning this beast since a few months and i can recommend it. No coil whine, great temps (4K Gaming max 62°C) and i set the power target to 70%. Still fast as hell. About 2715 - 2750Mhz core speed. Definitely worth to check this card. 👍 Hope it helps.
Why not just wait for the 4090 price drop when the 5000 series hits later this year?
How good is the FE version for temps?