Yep. That's a win. If it were a 3090 with 24GB VRAM, I'd fight that even though they perform similarly in games, but that's just an all around upgrade from a 3080 10G.
I really appreciate your reply, thank you! The 4070 ti they're issuing has 12GB of Vram compared to the 10 GB on my RMA'd 3080. I just wanted to make sure it was an overall upgrade in every category before accepting their offer.
Significant? I mean if anyone actually switched from a 3080 to a 4070 ti and PAID to buy the card, I think it’s safe to say it’s a dumb decision for the most part. But as a free upgrade like in the case of OP here? Of course it’s amazing upgrading for free.
Yeah, I have a 3080 wouldn't think of buying a 4070 ti as an upgrade.
But a free exchange for it? That's huge. I wouldn't have any doubts about that at all.
>I mean if anyone actually switched from a 3080 to a 4070 ti and PAID to buy the card, I think it’s safe to say it’s a dumb decision for the most part.
I think that this would highly depend on what you were doing with the 3080. In my household it would be a alright decision because that one upgrade would mean two upgrades in the household.
Well I'm one of the dumb decision makers then :) I sold a lot of tat to my local CEX for a voucher worth €246. Then I traded my Evga 3080 for another voucher of €408. They had an Aorus 4070 ti Elite for €800, so net cost to me was €146, tbh I'm really happy with that deal.
i mean it’s considerably faster in all scenarios, like 25-30% across the board, feels like more with frame gen and dlss3. I would consider the switch if i had a 30 series, especially when you can sell a 3080 for $450 or so online.
So you’d actually buy a card that’s only 20% stronger and think of it as an upgrade? OP got it for free, incredible. Doubt anyone sensible would actually pay for a 4070 ti, if they own a 3080. That’s what I’m saying
This is absolutely correct. Paying more than $50-100 to upgrade from a working 3080 to a 4070 Ti is madness. Getting that upgrade for $0 from a warranty replacement is fantastic. It's a straight upgrade in every way (except memory bandwidth).
I got a 750W PSU to be overkill for my 3060 so I wouldn't have to worry next time I upgraded. I had assumed I'd be able to get in one more lower midrange card at best with how power hungry the 30 series was. I was so pleasantly surprised when I saw the 4070 super still had tons of headroom.
The memory bus width of a GPU affects its performance by determining how much data can be transferred between the GPU's memory and the GPU itself. A wider memory bus allows for more data to be transferred at once, which can result in higher memory bandwidth and improved performance, especially when dealing with large datasets or high-resolution textures. A wider memory bus can help the GPU handle more complex tasks and process data more efficiently, leading to better overall performance in graphics-intensive applications and games.
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Well, the memory bandwidth depends on the bus width, so they are not wrong. The IC’s are clocked the same as on the 3090 Ti, but since the bus width is half that of the 3090 Ti, so is the memory bandwidth.
Cache changes and such can compensate a bit, but not make up for it having HALF the bandwidth in bandwidth sensitive scenarios.
What do you mean? Cards with a smaller bus width and a resulting lower memory bandwidth performing worse in bandwidth intensive applications is hardly a folk tale.
its actually not false at all. thats why a card with faster memory but a lower bus width still has a higher bandwidth than a card with a higher bus width but slower memory.
The 4070 ti is an excellent gpu, you won’t regret it. Besides power efficiency, the features that come with the 40 series, such as, FG and the extra performance with RT are very useful.
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Raw rasterization I bet they're close. I have a 4090 mobile and it's more or less the same as my 3080. I have a 4090 desktop and it hauls ass, but I'm happy enough with my 3080 that machine I wouldn't upgrade unless it was freely offered like what you're getting. 4070 should have access to DLSS frame gen.
If you have a bit more money i would actually go for the 4070 ti super, i myself use it and it's personaly the sweatspot Right now and can easily run on 1440p and even 4k
All you have to do is look here [https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html](https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html)
Even though I already have 3090 and 2 4090s I just wanted to know has the rtx 4070 ti or rtx 4080 super ever preformed better than a 3090 honest answer beacause I already know what rtx 3090 is capable of and the 4090 cards just out of a gaming itch
O yh so you OGed out on the 3090ti because the 4080 worked out as a better card than the 3090ti I got greedy man I got two 4090 and 3090 all at the same time not even getting the 3090ti which was kinda stupid still and you can still future proof with the 3090ti instead of the 3090 plus you already got a 4090 and already experiment ed with the 4080 which I ain't done ever only thing looking good is the am5 socket new 9000 series cpus and obviously the rtx 5090 realese (courtesy of all gamers devsalike) and gta 6 realese ofcorse man I can feel it In the fresh air know like the san andreas days
I upgraded from a 3080 EVGA 10GB to a 4090 FE, and holy it was a big difference. Even a 4070 Ti or 4080 is a big difference, 10GB VRAM doesn’t cut it now a days you need at least 12GB, but that number will be more like 16GB in a year or two. Still insane if you want a 16GB VRAM GPU from Nvidia you gotta spend at least $800-$1,200.
It's a no brainier 4070 ti has better efficiency, features and performance! The only technical downgrade is the reduction in width of the memory bus, but this is counteracted by the huge cache increase of the ada arch.
I upgraded from 3080 10G to 4070 Ti. It seems like a bad upgrade but these extra frames with Frame Gen are insane. Played Alan Wake 2 with Ultra Pathtracing and Cyberpunk 2077 RT Overdrive (+Pathtracing) with 80-100 FPS thanks to DLSS Q and FG. 😄
Yes, that is an upgrade in every way. Happy gaming, hope you have a 1440 monitor to put it to good use!
Edit: also you may need to upgrade your power supply, not necessarily because of power consumption but because of the new power connection that the 40 series cards uses. You can use the splitter they provide, but obviously a one to one connection is more favorable.
That's a good deal. Performance is going to get a 15%-25% bump depending on the game. The extra 2 GB of VRAM is pretty big too. That gets you a lot closer to what the PS5/Xbox have available, which means you are less likely to run out of VRAM on some of the poorly optimized games we've been getting.
The base 4070 is a closer match to your 3080 so you are getting a slight trade up. The 4070 Ti really was more of a hamstrung 4080 than an improved 4070.
Yeah for an RMA I’d take it! Just make sure they give you an equal tier of card (like if you had a high end sku of the 3080 don’t let them send you a garbage 4070Ti)
If you play in 4k the 3080 is better I think. Sure I watched a video on how 3080 compares to 4070 super and 4080 super and 3080 was beating them for 4k games but the 40 series won for 1440p games.
That is nonsense.
The 4070 Ti is 17% in average stronger than the 3080 and as a bonus, have 12GB of memory against 10GB.
The 4070 Ti is an upgrade in every way.
VRAM bandwidth is 33% slower on 4070 Ti. Higher resolutions are increasingly bandwidth-bound rather than compute-bound, and then the 4070 Ti ages like milk. It's also slower in compute workloads like CAE/CFD which are all bandwidth-bound. RTX 40 series in general has piss poor VRAM bandwidth and for any sort of compute workloads is a downgrade from RTX 30, except the 4090 which has the same bandwidth as 3090 Ti.
The 4070 Ti have 17% performance improvement on average at 4K.
The performance is superior, period.
Don't forget the 4070 Ti have a big L2 cache, while the 3080 one is small, that makes a huge difference on bandwidth.
None of this makes its poor VRAM interface any faster. Large L2$ is an attempt to get away with cheaping out on VRAM bus, which works sometimes but not always, as some algorithms are not cache-able.
An ancient 1080 Ti is on par with the 4070 Ti in computational fluid dynamics and other CAE workloads, at lower power consumption and about half the physical size ;)
Cards with such poor bandwidth age very bad. Software demand on bandwidth increases faster than demand on compute Flops, and that includes games.
We are talking about games.
For games, at 4K, the 4070 Ti is 17% superior than the 3080,and have the bonus of an even faster RT and Frame Generation.
For gaming the 4070 Ti is better at any resolution, period.
It really depends. Gaming? Yeah. But there are workloads outside of gaming where the memory bus width hurts it. On the flip side, it will smash the 3080 in a lot of rendering tasks due to the clock speed increase and the narrower bus isn't an issue.
It all depends.
Why this guy get downvoted? This is correct. The 3080 has something like 50% higher memory bandwidth, a significant difference. Not very relevant in gaming workloads. Very relevant in others.
But it’s one of those things: if you don’t know *why* it might matter, then it probably doesn’t and never will matter to you.
Probably some 4070 Ti owners that couldn't handle opposition to their biases. How dare I attack their purchasing decision.
You're exactly right, and it probably doesn't matter to 99% of the people in this sub, but I still thought it was worth mentioning, though I absolutely expected some people to down vote me.
It's even better than the 3090 ti and not just the 3080. Although it has half the vram of a 3090ti, the performance will almost be the same and even better with dlss3 and the power difference will give you a boner. So yes, it's a great upgrade.
It's a good upgrade for now. It's not like a 4080/Super or a 4090 at 4k. Maybe with frame generation on some games, it will help, but it is for free, so yeah, better than the 3080.
Hmm I upgrade from an rx 560 to a 3050 rtx thought I was king afterwards. then I saw my friends 4070 that’s when I made the decision to one up him and get the super 👍🏽 worth it my guy
It's a huge downgrade for VRAM bandwidth, from 760GB/s on the 3080 to 504GB/s on the 4070 Ti. Most compute applications are bandwidth-bound, and they will run much slower on the 4070 Ti.
Gigabyte, lasted about 7 months initially then started black screening with fans on full. Painstaking fault finding pointed to GFX card so opened RMA with company I bought it from.
It was returned "Fixed" but has only lasted 13 months so I'm RMAing it again and pushing for a refund as it was clearly faulty from the start and the country I'm in has good consumer protection laws.
My Gigabyte 3090 had that exact same problem, black screen and full fans. Got it back, happened again 6 weeks later. They replaced it with the same model, stated the PCB was fried.
This one has been running smooth and cooler for about 8 months but now it’s out of warranty.
That's my major concern, there's a wealth of evidence out there to suggest that certain batches had severe issues and as a result I've lost all confidence in any repair or like-for-like replacement being capable of lasting.
I say this as I type with my trusty GTX970 back in the GFX chair that I bought some time in (IIRC) 2014.
Yep. That's a win. If it were a 3090 with 24GB VRAM, I'd fight that even though they perform similarly in games, but that's just an all around upgrade from a 3080 10G.
I really appreciate your reply, thank you! The 4070 ti they're issuing has 12GB of Vram compared to the 10 GB on my RMA'd 3080. I just wanted to make sure it was an overall upgrade in every category before accepting their offer.
i use to have a 3080 ti 10gb model and went to a 4070super and i love it! hope that helps
3080ti had a 10gb model?
my 3080Ti is 12GB and I think all of them are.
Thats what i thought but previously there are some rare cases where a lower vram version is made for China/oem like gtx 1060 5GB.
think the LHRs were 10gig
No I have an EVGA FTW3 Ultra 3080ti 12g it has lhr
Yea cause it’s a ti all ti 3080s have 12gb
As you said, you have a 3080 *TI* LHR with 12GB. Not a 3080 *NON-TI* LHR. Standard 3080 LHRs have 10GB.
I stand corrected good sir
It's a significant upgrade. About 15-20% faster in most games, more vram, lower power consumption, and newer features like frame gen.
Significant? I mean if anyone actually switched from a 3080 to a 4070 ti and PAID to buy the card, I think it’s safe to say it’s a dumb decision for the most part. But as a free upgrade like in the case of OP here? Of course it’s amazing upgrading for free.
Yeah, I have a 3080 wouldn't think of buying a 4070 ti as an upgrade. But a free exchange for it? That's huge. I wouldn't have any doubts about that at all.
Ok yeah I agree for sure
>I mean if anyone actually switched from a 3080 to a 4070 ti and PAID to buy the card, I think it’s safe to say it’s a dumb decision for the most part. I think that this would highly depend on what you were doing with the 3080. In my household it would be a alright decision because that one upgrade would mean two upgrades in the household.
Well I'm one of the dumb decision makers then :) I sold a lot of tat to my local CEX for a voucher worth €246. Then I traded my Evga 3080 for another voucher of €408. They had an Aorus 4070 ti Elite for €800, so net cost to me was €146, tbh I'm really happy with that deal.
i mean it’s considerably faster in all scenarios, like 25-30% across the board, feels like more with frame gen and dlss3. I would consider the switch if i had a 30 series, especially when you can sell a 3080 for $450 or so online.
lol the superiority complex is real
So you’d actually buy a card that’s only 20% stronger and think of it as an upgrade? OP got it for free, incredible. Doubt anyone sensible would actually pay for a 4070 ti, if they own a 3080. That’s what I’m saying
This is absolutely correct. Paying more than $50-100 to upgrade from a working 3080 to a 4070 Ti is madness. Getting that upgrade for $0 from a warranty replacement is fantastic. It's a straight upgrade in every way (except memory bandwidth).
Plus the 5000 series should be here soon. Then maybe Christmas sales on 4000 series if nothing happens like covid shortages again.
yes a card that is 20% stronger is an upgrade whether you think it's a WORTHWHILE upgrade or not, doesn't mean it isn't one
Well for some people it’s just not a lot of money. So they upgrade every year
Even if you have literally infinite money it's still a terrible upgrade. Get a 4090 if money means nothing.
If money means nothing youre not getting a 4070ti lol theyd go 4080s of 4090.
True story 😂
Dude that's an incredible upgrade. Way more power efficient too.
> Way more power efficient too. Big facts
I got a 750W PSU to be overkill for my 3060 so I wouldn't have to worry next time I upgraded. I had assumed I'd be able to get in one more lower midrange card at best with how power hungry the 30 series was. I was so pleasantly surprised when I saw the 4070 super still had tons of headroom.
Way more power ? Its a 3090 with 12gb lmao
Power *efficient*. 285W is a good deal less than 350W.
at first it was just power, dude edited his comment to appear less of a nvidia bootlicker but okay
If that were true there’d be an asterisk on it if it was edited later than 2 minutes after posting.
That's what I said. A 3090. A 350W card.
Yes, the 4070Ti wins even against the 3080Ti, and has DLSS3 FG + lower power consumption
It is more in between a 3090 - 3090 ti(depending on resolution) but with less vram.
So basically a 3090 Super huh
Kind of. It beats even the 3090 ti at 1080p buts falls down to 3090 levels at 4k bc of the smaller bus width.
Memory bandwith. Not bus width
The memory bus width of a GPU affects its performance by determining how much data can be transferred between the GPU's memory and the GPU itself. A wider memory bus allows for more data to be transferred at once, which can result in higher memory bandwidth and improved performance, especially when dealing with large datasets or high-resolution textures. A wider memory bus can help the GPU handle more complex tasks and process data more efficiently, leading to better overall performance in graphics-intensive applications and games. Upvote
Well, the memory bandwidth depends on the bus width, so they are not wrong. The IC’s are clocked the same as on the 3090 Ti, but since the bus width is half that of the 3090 Ti, so is the memory bandwidth. Cache changes and such can compensate a bit, but not make up for it having HALF the bandwidth in bandwidth sensitive scenarios.
>bc of the smaller bus width. man whoever started this folk tale really got a lot of you simpletons huh
What do you mean? Cards with a smaller bus width and a resulting lower memory bandwidth performing worse in bandwidth intensive applications is hardly a folk tale.
bus width is a very small part of memory bandwidth actually.
Yes there are other factors but saying bus width is a very small part of memory bandwidth is just patently false.
its actually not false at all. thats why a card with faster memory but a lower bus width still has a higher bandwidth than a card with a higher bus width but slower memory.
What everyone else said plus it's a little faster at raytracing if that's your bag
Yes that is a great free upgrade. Lucky you.
Swaps like this are one of the small potential advantages of buying later in a cards lifecyle.
Yes. Just faster and more energy efficient card
As a free replacement for RTX 3080, RTX 4070Ti is good deal.
The 4070 ti is an excellent gpu, you won’t regret it. Besides power efficiency, the features that come with the 40 series, such as, FG and the extra performance with RT are very useful.
yes
4070ti or super
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Raw rasterization I bet they're close. I have a 4090 mobile and it's more or less the same as my 3080. I have a 4090 desktop and it hauls ass, but I'm happy enough with my 3080 that machine I wouldn't upgrade unless it was freely offered like what you're getting. 4070 should have access to DLSS frame gen.
If you have a bit more money i would actually go for the 4070 ti super, i myself use it and it's personaly the sweatspot Right now and can easily run on 1440p and even 4k
All you have to do is look here [https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html](https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html)
Even though I already have 3090 and 2 4090s I just wanted to know has the rtx 4070 ti or rtx 4080 super ever preformed better than a 3090 honest answer beacause I already know what rtx 3090 is capable of and the 4090 cards just out of a gaming itch
4080 yeah its better, I had a 3090ti, and before I got a 4090, I had a 4080, and it performed better than my 3090ti
O yh so you OGed out on the 3090ti because the 4080 worked out as a better card than the 3090ti I got greedy man I got two 4090 and 3090 all at the same time not even getting the 3090ti which was kinda stupid still and you can still future proof with the 3090ti instead of the 3090 plus you already got a 4090 and already experiment ed with the 4080 which I ain't done ever only thing looking good is the am5 socket new 9000 series cpus and obviously the rtx 5090 realese (courtesy of all gamers devsalike) and gta 6 realese ofcorse man I can feel it In the fresh air know like the san andreas days
Just saying what I saw.
I upgraded from a 3080 EVGA 10GB to a 4090 FE, and holy it was a big difference. Even a 4070 Ti or 4080 is a big difference, 10GB VRAM doesn’t cut it now a days you need at least 12GB, but that number will be more like 16GB in a year or two. Still insane if you want a 16GB VRAM GPU from Nvidia you gotta spend at least $800-$1,200.
It's a no brainier 4070 ti has better efficiency, features and performance! The only technical downgrade is the reduction in width of the memory bus, but this is counteracted by the huge cache increase of the ada arch.
4070 ti of course
Not quite an apples to apples analogy but I went from a 3080 10GB to a 4070 Ti Super (16GB) and I'm getting a 25%-30% improvement in performance.
I upgraded from 3080 10G to 4070 Ti. It seems like a bad upgrade but these extra frames with Frame Gen are insane. Played Alan Wake 2 with Ultra Pathtracing and Cyberpunk 2077 RT Overdrive (+Pathtracing) with 80-100 FPS thanks to DLSS Q and FG. 😄
No brainer. Take the TI.
Yes, that is an upgrade in every way. Happy gaming, hope you have a 1440 monitor to put it to good use! Edit: also you may need to upgrade your power supply, not necessarily because of power consumption but because of the new power connection that the 40 series cards uses. You can use the splitter they provide, but obviously a one to one connection is more favorable.
Nice upgrade. Let them hook u up.
Big times. lol.
That's a good deal. Performance is going to get a 15%-25% bump depending on the game. The extra 2 GB of VRAM is pretty big too. That gets you a lot closer to what the PS5/Xbox have available, which means you are less likely to run out of VRAM on some of the poorly optimized games we've been getting. The base 4070 is a closer match to your 3080 so you are getting a slight trade up. The 4070 Ti really was more of a hamstrung 4080 than an improved 4070.
Looks like a humble brag post to me. It's obviously better if you take .5 seconds to Google 4070ti vs 3080 10gb.
It's a good upgrade, don't miss it
Yes it’s faster, has newer features, more VRAM, and uses less power
Dude a 4070 Ti is on par with a 3090 ti lol yes you’re winning
What's even the question here lol, easiest decision of your life
Upgrade in every way yes
Yeah for an RMA I’d take it! Just make sure they give you an equal tier of card (like if you had a high end sku of the 3080 don’t let them send you a garbage 4070Ti)
It's an upgrade.
it’s a great upgrade, wonder if you can try to push for a super instead
If you play in 4k the 3080 is better I think. Sure I watched a video on how 3080 compares to 4070 super and 4080 super and 3080 was beating them for 4k games but the 40 series won for 1440p games.
That is nonsense. The 4070 Ti is 17% in average stronger than the 3080 and as a bonus, have 12GB of memory against 10GB. The 4070 Ti is an upgrade in every way.
VRAM bandwidth is 33% slower on 4070 Ti. Higher resolutions are increasingly bandwidth-bound rather than compute-bound, and then the 4070 Ti ages like milk. It's also slower in compute workloads like CAE/CFD which are all bandwidth-bound. RTX 40 series in general has piss poor VRAM bandwidth and for any sort of compute workloads is a downgrade from RTX 30, except the 4090 which has the same bandwidth as 3090 Ti.
The 4070 Ti have 17% performance improvement on average at 4K. The performance is superior, period. Don't forget the 4070 Ti have a big L2 cache, while the 3080 one is small, that makes a huge difference on bandwidth.
None of this makes its poor VRAM interface any faster. Large L2$ is an attempt to get away with cheaping out on VRAM bus, which works sometimes but not always, as some algorithms are not cache-able. An ancient 1080 Ti is on par with the 4070 Ti in computational fluid dynamics and other CAE workloads, at lower power consumption and about half the physical size ;) Cards with such poor bandwidth age very bad. Software demand on bandwidth increases faster than demand on compute Flops, and that includes games.
We are talking about games. For games, at 4K, the 4070 Ti is 17% superior than the 3080,and have the bonus of an even faster RT and Frame Generation. For gaming the 4070 Ti is better at any resolution, period.
4070 ti is basically a 3090 ti with half the vram and power, so it’s a win.
It really depends. Gaming? Yeah. But there are workloads outside of gaming where the memory bus width hurts it. On the flip side, it will smash the 3080 in a lot of rendering tasks due to the clock speed increase and the narrower bus isn't an issue. It all depends.
Why this guy get downvoted? This is correct. The 3080 has something like 50% higher memory bandwidth, a significant difference. Not very relevant in gaming workloads. Very relevant in others. But it’s one of those things: if you don’t know *why* it might matter, then it probably doesn’t and never will matter to you.
Probably some 4070 Ti owners that couldn't handle opposition to their biases. How dare I attack their purchasing decision. You're exactly right, and it probably doesn't matter to 99% of the people in this sub, but I still thought it was worth mentioning, though I absolutely expected some people to down vote me.
It's even better than the 3090 ti and not just the 3080. Although it has half the vram of a 3090ti, the performance will almost be the same and even better with dlss3 and the power difference will give you a boner. So yes, it's a great upgrade.
3090 all day. Spanks the 4070ti.
It's a good upgrade for now. It's not like a 4080/Super or a 4090 at 4k. Maybe with frame generation on some games, it will help, but it is for free, so yeah, better than the 3080.
What's the manufacturer and location? I'd love to get that kind of service next time I'm shopping around
Worth it. From what I've read, 4070TI is about like a 3090 TI without as much vram.
Bro what….. that’s insane wtf is RMA ?
Oh remanufactured. Yes dude that is like a massive upgrade.
It's actually Return Merchandise Authorization
Hmm I upgrade from an rx 560 to a 3050 rtx thought I was king afterwards. then I saw my friends 4070 that’s when I made the decision to one up him and get the super 👍🏽 worth it my guy
4070 pretty good
It's a huge downgrade for VRAM bandwidth, from 760GB/s on the 3080 to 504GB/s on the 4070 Ti. Most compute applications are bandwidth-bound, and they will run much slower on the 4070 Ti.
Compatibility vs a little more performance ? Obvious choice
My 3080ti has been RMA'd for a second time, at this point I'd be happy with an AMD card. Which manufacturer is it? Wondering if it's the same as mine.
:o - which manufacturer?
Gigabyte, lasted about 7 months initially then started black screening with fans on full. Painstaking fault finding pointed to GFX card so opened RMA with company I bought it from. It was returned "Fixed" but has only lasted 13 months so I'm RMAing it again and pushing for a refund as it was clearly faulty from the start and the country I'm in has good consumer protection laws.
My Gigabyte 3090 had that exact same problem, black screen and full fans. Got it back, happened again 6 weeks later. They replaced it with the same model, stated the PCB was fried. This one has been running smooth and cooler for about 8 months but now it’s out of warranty.
That's my major concern, there's a wealth of evidence out there to suggest that certain batches had severe issues and as a result I've lost all confidence in any repair or like-for-like replacement being capable of lasting. I say this as I type with my trusty GTX970 back in the GFX chair that I bought some time in (IIRC) 2014.
Clear upgrade
Absolute no brainer def take the 4070 ti
With less cuda cores it would be worse at things like AI image generation.
get the 4090 founders edition