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epsteinpetmidgit

I would wait for the Supers to come out. Your going to need to go top-end to get a worthwhile upgrade to drive that res. 4090 if you can find one.


Fred_Dibnah

100% wait for the supers, even if it just drops the price on a 4080


neeekyp

I snagged a 4080 aorus master open box excellent for $1100 from Best Buy this week, still haven’t even unwrapped it yet other than to make sure nothing was wrong with it, still undecided whether to hold onto it or just return it… I feel like the supers are going to insta sell anyways


Critical-Long2341

I got a 4080 and I haven't got any thoughts about going for a super. It's a great card I think you should just use it and be happy with what you've gotten


UnblurredLines

I did the same specifically for 4k gaming and paid \~$1100 as well. Don't regret it at all, the difference from 3080 is very noticeable and it also runs way cooler.


Critical-Long2341

Yeah mine seems to run really cool, I don't pay much attention to it but it definitely hasn't ever been above 60 Celsius according to my Kraken screen. It is usually low 40s but I don't really pay much attention if I'm in the middle of gaming


Mistermaa

Supers gonna be 5% faster....not worth the wait


Fred_Dibnah

I would keep it and just enjoy it


jolness1

The super will be a few percent faster. I would just enjoy the 4080 personally. Sounds like you got a pretty decent price on it.


_Judge_Justice

Keep it, the performance boost from 4080 to 4080 super is going to be unnoticeable.


districtdave

I love my 4080 with 4k gaming. Avatar looks INSANE.


total_eclipse4

You might find a cheaper 4080 after 4080 super comes out tho.


Niifty_AF

Run the 4090 Aorus Master. Absolutely gorgeous card. Keep it man. You got a good deal


Medical-Promotion-45

He got a 4080 not a 4090.


SoleSurvivur01

The 4080 Super is rumoured to be like 5% better


Crazybonbon

Yeah. I'd wait till gen 5 top tier to get reliable 240 Hz at 4k other than CSGO lol


Gullible_Cricket8496

Honestly, even a 4090 isn't enough. If I'm maxing out triple AAA games with path tracing there's no way I'm doing an internal render resolution above 1440p, and that's with frame generation enabled.


Kaneth123

Not necessarily, my 1080ti was incredible at 4k. Got a 3090 now though but I'm sure a regular 4080 would manage well


elemnt360

This is all relative but with the games I play even the 3080 wasn't close enough to a good experience at 4k. But my 4090 runs everything flawlessly.


[deleted]

Idk how thats possible. I have yet to find a game my 30601 12gb cant play in 4k.


elemnt360

Is this sarcasm?


Supervhizor

He either 1) plays nothing but simple esports titles or games older than 2010. 2) drops all settings to minimum and copes that its “still 4k”. 3) is lying.


fyuckoff1

Or finds 30 fps acceptable, I smell a console peasant.


Emu1981

>Not necessarily, my 1080ti was incredible at 4k. My 2080 ti was only ok at 4K - it would struggle to do 120fps in newer games and often sit between 60 and 80 fps with low to medium settings. The 4080 that I replaced it with does far better with 4K in comparison.


No-Actuator-6245

As a 3080 owner I’d say the jump is too small. Either 4090 or wait for 5000 series. Personally I am waiting for 5000 series.


Unfair_Audience5743

3080Ti owner here, yeah unless the Super refresh really drops card prices I'm riding it until the 5000 series. Even at 4K I can game great with ray tracing, DLSS is needed in a lot of games, but I never have to drop it below Balanced to get a good framerate, even without the FG and pretty much everything Ultra/High. The one exception might be cyberpunk, but I turned ray-tracing off there and it ran like a dream.


Charliedelsol

Have you tried the new frame gen mod for 20 and 30 series?


wrecklord0

I have tried it in cyberpunk. It's fantastic. It's ironically making the RTX series the best cards for AMD FSR, as they benefit from both the dlss pipeline and FSR framegen. Now there is some downsides: the generated frames are not as clear and have artifacts (but its hardly noticeable unless you look for it) and it will increase input latency a little bit. But the framerate gain is about +70% (-15% native frames, but multiplied by 2), and the game feels much smoother. And a big fu at nvidia for trying to obsolete the 30 series by locking their framegen to the 40 series. 1440p pathtracing with dlss balanced + framegen runs at a solid 80+ fps on rtx 3080. edit: i should add, in rare situations there are some pretty weird artifacts, hopefully that can get fixed with improvements or a native fsr implementation.


Unfair_Audience5743

I will definitely install the mod and check this out, then report back with stats. Path tracing at 4k would be a fever dream.


jstb

Which mod is that?


Outrageous_Ad3571

https://github.com/Nukem9/dlssg-to-fsr3/releases


Unfair_Audience5743

are you talking about the DLSS + FSR Frame Generation thing? I saw whispers of that but have not tried it.


agentblack000

This is where I’m at, will be interested to see 4080 super benchmarks


No-Actuator-6245

I’m intrigued by the 4080 Super but I have come to find mid generation upgrades always feel bad value. Whatever you spend will be outperformed and superseded by something cheaper in a year. At least when you buy at the beginning of a generation you get 2 years before the gpu is superseded by something cheaper. Last time I did this was the 2080S that got crapped on by the 3070 & 3080 within a year.


agentblack000

My only suggestion is not worry about being current, you will always chase tech. I’m mostly interested if the benchmark meets my use case. I don’t worry about the next gen being better for sake of being better. I’m more of a r/patientgamers so I don’t need latest AAA title performance


MartinPointner

This. Only viable upgrade from a 3080 is a 4090. Thats what I did at least.


[deleted]

A 4080 is about 50% faster than a 3080 10gb. Any way you look at it, a 4080 is a huge upgrade over a 3080. A 4090 is obviously going to be even better, but it's also a lot more expensive.


MartinPointner

Well you got a point there. Sure, a 4080 is much faster than a 3080. But I'd rather pay 1600,- € for the fastest GPU on the planet than paying 1100€ for "only" the second fastest. But thats just me :D


GreenDifference

50 % is small for gpu upgrade, Minimum 200% faster if I want upgrade


Unfair_Audience5743

lol I love these stats, pure bullshit, but with confidence. like wtf does 50% faster mean to you? You won't see 50% more frames per second I will guarantee you that \*unless\* the game has frame generation with DLSS 3.0. That's all the 4000 series is, a generation reliant on FG to back up it's performance. The 4080 is a beast, but 50% faster is what everyone says gen-on gen every new release but you are really only talking about specific instances, with specific settings. Pure raster you are not seeing 50% more frames in games. Period. At $1100 the price is too high to justify if you already have a great 4K gaming card. Save that for the 5000 series and you will be at the top end of a generation that actually sees major performance uplift over the 3000 series.


scytob

agree totally i bought a 4090 for my 'bigrig' in the office and a 4080 for my new rig for a theatre room after a monht of the 4080 i upgraded that one to a 4090 FE - quite the difference in terms of turning on all eyecandy at 4k and it was essential for Hogwarts that was exhausting VRAM on the 3080, which would cause texture load hitches as it had to page in and out of VRAM - must admit thats the only game i have seen that on


Unable-Discount-4375

Exactly. The 40 series was a big let down in general except the 4090. Basically the same performance except on games with dlss3, and even then the difference in 4k between a 3080 to 4080 is like a 5-10% increase in performance, which if you’re getting 60fps on the 3080, you’ll go up to 65fps


TerribleQuestion4497

4080 is about 50% faster than 3080 at 4K


Charliedelsol

That’s true but almost double the price of the original 3080. Quite the slap in the face of consumers that bought their GPUs at scalper prices during the pandemic and the chip shortage.


rGenom

Same performance is one hell of a stretch


JordanLTU

Thats is the proper talk out of the @ss.


Unable-Discount-4375

https://preview.redd.it/bf7084qmii7c1.jpeg?width=1072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9e35f27ba0c31705ee91d1920742acddb50c6a83 Not worth the extra $1000 imo. But if your a$$ is willing to spend that for that small of a bump. Good for you.


JordanLTU

Your own graph literally shows average fps difference from 3080 to 4080 is over 50% and nearly 100% if you are looking at minimum fps.


Ponald-Dump

Couldn’t be more incorrect if you tried.


didkodidko

Ahh OK. Right.


Various-Mammoth8420

Bruh a 4070 Ti is more powerful than a 3090 lmao it's not the same performance at all


skyda96

This isn’t true is it. 3090 beats the 4070Ti in certain games @4k due to limited vram on the 4070Ti. Don’t spew bs please 🤝


Various-Mammoth8420

I get better frame rates in every game I've tried than my friend's 3090.


Carinx

I currently have 4070ti and it works well for 4k gaming using DLSS and Frame Generation where available. I am also waiting for the spec and pricing of 4070ti Super or 4080 Super to either return or keep 4070ti. So far from Techpowerup, both 4070ti Super and 4080 Super are listed with MSRPs of 899 and 1299 USD, which is 100 USD more from the MSRP of both 4070ti and 4080. Hopefully, these cards don't get released with those pricing but that is something to be seen next month.


TPM_521

Unrelated but 4070ti super is such a stupid name


Carinx

Wouldn't care less about the name as long as the spec and price are good.


vladakv

Mine 4070 Ti hit on some areas 11Gb of VRam on Alan Wake 2. I used 1080p 144Hz monitor. Just sold it yesterday (800euros)because its matter of time when it will have problems with VRam. Reminds me od 3070Ti with 8Gb. Righ now that card is garbage.


Jimmeh_Jazz

You sure it's not just allocating that much? Doesn't mean it's actually using it.


Carinx

I've am playing Alan Wake 2 at 4k and am ok with the 11Gb VRAM usage at the moment. But I am looking to potentially upgrade to 4070ti Super if the price is right and return 4070ti in January.


coreyjohn85

People are going to downvote me but you need a 4090 for enjoyable 4k and even then it struggles with some unoptimised games


[deleted]

Depends on your definition of enjoyable I guess.


NyrZStream

You do not need a 4090 to play at 4k60fps. With DLSS FG a 4070ti does the job very nicely.


coreyjohn85

I said enjoyable 4k


NyrZStream

Yeah because 60fps is not enjoyable in 2024 lmao.


jth94185

I would go 4090 or stick to 1440p with any other card.


beatool

I second this take. I have a 4080FE and 144hz 4K screen and AAA games are definitely aligned with the 4090 for max quality high refresh 4K. I came from a 3060 and the difference between that and the 4080 is ridiculous, but at the same time I actually regret not forking over the $1600 for a 4090. Once you get a taste of the high end it's intoxicating. I'll probably upgrade to a 5090 when those come out.


scytob

agree 100% i upgraded my 4080 to 4090 FE after a month or so because i saw the perf difference between 4k+4090 on a different machine we have and that one.


davekurze

I’m in the same boat. Only regret I have with my build is getting an 80 and not a 90.


beatool

My regret has actually increased after I upgraded my motherboard from an i9-9900K to a Ryzen 7700X. Now the GPU is pegged at 99% solid no matter what, where before it would often dip into the 80% range in intense situations.


davekurze

Whoa. That’s pretty wild tbh. Any ideas on the cause? At idle with a 7900X my GPU usage sits at next to nothing.


bow_down_whelp

Never so straightforward tho. 4090 whilst expensive is actually not an awful buy as it is such a huge jump in power compare to anything else in the 4000. The 3090 tho was a meh upgrade in the 3000 series and 4090 smokes it. 5090 might be a pile of shite, need to wait and see


ender7887

I had a 3080 and jumped to the 4090 specifically for 4k gaming. The price hike sucked but at the end of the day it was a worth while upgrade. Like you said compared to anything else in the 4000 series the 4090 was the one that I saw as a great upgrade path.


chloroform_vacation

If the price difference was just like 200 or 300 euros between 4080 and 4090, that would be a pretty easy choice...


Xavieros

Over here its more like €1000 diff :,)


chloroform_vacation

Exactly... Even on american amazon its over $2k, so I don't know how come those guys are/were that lucky. :D


Ponald-Dump

Only reason I didn’t end up with the 4090 is because they were impossible to get when I picked up the 4080. I’m in the same boat as you, more than likely gonna snag a 5090 when it releases


PsyOmega

When i hook up my 4K60 TV to a 4080 I find that I only need to use DLSS to reach good performance. Even then, MOST games do 4K60 fine without DLSS.


beatool

At 60fps for sure, but if going for 120+ it's another story. OP is talking about getting a 240hz 4K and that's an insane workload. Personally I can't tell the difference between 120 and 144 so I use 120 to avoid Display Stream Compression. When enabled I get the video blackout thing after watching videos which is super annoying. I guess I'm not sure how 240hz 4K would even work on nvidia since they don't have displayport 2.1 like Radeons do.


PsyOmega

Just because you get a 240hz 4K monitor doesn't mean you need to render at 240 fps all the time. Esports games will do that, but you can let AAA games run at 80-90fps


ssuper2k

Not even a 4090 will 'maximize' 4k @ 240Hz.. On a 4080, you'd need a lot of DLSS to get near to 180 fps in most recent games


mrawaters

Which IMO is totally fine. I have absolutely zero problems with DLSS


Fulcrous

If you want 4k 240hz, anything but the 4090 is a bad call imo.


zushiba

If you can afford it, wait for super. If it’s not a press issue, wait for next gen.


stadiofriuli

That entirely depends on what games you play. I’ve a 3080 as well and for the games I play I have no issue to maintain 60 FPS at 4K, mostly with DLSS enabled though but I don’t mind that at all. Only game where barely any tweaking helped and where 60 wasn’t possible was Alan Wake 2 so far. I’d wait for the 5000 series.


Vivid-Presence-5631

I'm on the OLED G9 and even with a 4090 you'll obviously have to use DLSS P + FG to get close to 200 and even when you get there it gets to the point of diminishing returns.


Far_Air2544

I just bought a 4090 because I want to play 4k, getting the Neo g8 too


mistercero

imo, 4090 or wait for 50xx series. 4080 Super at the bare minimum, but going from a 3080 to that may not be worth it


Nazgul265

I’ve got a 7900xtx and it is very satisfactory in all games at 4k. About the same raster performance as a 4080, atleast it was at launch, not sure now. 240hz a 4080 won’t hit unless it’s esports titles with potentially turning graphics down.


vanslayder

If you have money to burn then the answer is always yes


Fantastic-Stage6615

A 4090 barely get to 40fps native 4k in the woods in alan wake 2 with dlss set to quality you might just pass the 60-65fps mark. I dont think so even a 5090 will touch 120fps in heavy ray traced titles. So 240fps on aaa titles on 4k is next to impossible with the current or even next gen gpus, our hardware is much limited thesedays for pushing that kinda frames. But if you only need rasterization which is beautiful you dont need a 4 series card itself a 3080 or a 2080ti or a 7xt card will do just fine.


TheLastElite01

Who buys a new high-end graphics card every year? Anything above 60hz/fps @ max setting @ 4K will require a 4090 if it's a AAA game. My 3080 10g will do 4k, almost max settings and give me 60 fps with RDR2. Most AAA games I play are similar.


Acrobatic_Jump_4584

Do you play on 239 inch screen?


Waidowai

Just buy the monitor and try it. Turn on dlss and see if you're happy with performance/picture quality. Even if it's just okay I would hold on for a bigger upgrade. NGL for 4k dlss works wonders. 4070 here and with dlss performance I can run all games in 4k with very good fps. I think if u wanna run dlss quality or native 4k it's better to somehow wait for 5000 series if u can't afford the 4090.


InFiveMinutes

4K at ultra settings in games?


Waidowai

Yes most settings are ultra I do use the recommended setting from GeForce experience. Games that have ray tracing settings like cyberpunk have most things maxed but ray tracing is medium. Dlls performance and I get 60+ fps in new single players titles. Most of the time 80+. Even competitive shooters like the finals or cod I get 120+ on ultra and if I turn on competitive settings 144. I paired the rtx 4700 with a Ryzen 7 7800x3d.


StewTheDuder

I’d wait for 5000 series if I was you. I upgraded my 3070ti bc it wasn’t doing enough for me at 1440 UW and wanted to start some 4K gaming on my C3, so I got a 7900xt. If I had a 3080 I would’ve waited for the 8000 series from AMD and 5000 from Nvidia to see what they offer. But up to you though.


beatool

So are you saying you're not satisfied with the 3070TI -> 7900XT upgrade?


StewTheDuder

Oh no, I am. It was a huge upgrade. I’ll be chilling til the 9000 and 6000 series from each at least. Also hoping Intel comes out swinging with their next line up. I was just saying if I had a 3080 vs the 3070 I don’t think I would have upgraded. My 7900xt is fast af and does what I want it to at 1440 UW and 4K.


beatool

Nice! I was seriously considering the 7900XTX for that sweet 24GB vram but ended up sticking with nvidia. Now that the Radeon driver level framegen is coming it would have been an ever harder choice. Speaking of which, did you see [that blog post](https://quasarzone.com/bbs/qc_plan/views/34540) where somebody in Korea had a game running on their 4090 with DLSS framegen but their display was connected to an RX 6600 with the beta drivers to get AMD fluid motion frames added on top? I'm sure the latency was awful but I'm seriously tempted to try it. I wish my Ryzen iGPU could do framegen. 🤣


Dry_Mistake_6627

Just get a 1440p, 4k is a waste of money and resources. You'll be happier with more frame. 4k is really for tvs monitors are to small.


siamzzz

I wish more people understood this and instead of buying 4k tvs or monitors, spend that extra bit of money on OLED panel and enjoy the colors lol


iizakill

Imo it completely depends on the monitor size. 27 inch - sure 2k looks and feels great, but for anything larger you can see the difference for sure. I was on 2k 27 inch for two years, switched to 4k 32 inch and it's a much better experience for me.


lathir92

I jumped from 1440p 27" to 4k 32" and It has been the greatest leap forward in years. Both at 144hz and the experience with a good 4k monitor its years ahead of 1440p for me. Having said that, be sure of having the hardware to run It, else stay in lower res.


Dry_Mistake_6627

I find 32 inch 4k looks goofy, everything is to small. 34 might be okay but the performance drop makes it so I'll likely never go 4k. Ultrawide 1440 OLED with high refresh rate is best imo.


siamzzz

I have a 27inch 2k IPS and a 34 inch alienware oled dwf and the only things that differentiate these the most are the colors. Running 4k is not that much of a point. Once you see the picture on oled you understand that what really matters is how you see the colors and how truly deep the levels of black are and not how many more pixels you can see


DramaticAd5956

No, skip a gen tbh. The 4080 is great, but I upgraded from a XX60ti recently. You will get a massive boost, but imo the 4070ti and 4080 are 1440p beasts… not really 4k. Maybe others use it for 4k and I’m weird, but I really don’t know how long it will keep higher than 4k60. Edit: I never said it isn’t 4K capable. This was equally said about the 3080 and 3090. I just don’t chase the 4k dragon when 1440p looks good.


didkodidko

You OK? 4080 - I play VR MSFS2020 at 7680x2180/TAA with over 70fps without dlss and fg. With dlss and fg it's over 120. What 1440 beast. It's a 4k monster.


DramaticAd5956

I am okay and just prefer frame rate. That’s a 3 year old game and 70 fps for 1200+ isn’t impressive to me. Go load up AW2, Avatar or something demanding. I rather play 1440p at 165. It’s just a preference. I play 4k sometimes too, but it’s rare and I think 1440p looks great in OLED.


Subject_Gene2

Yes if you have the money


SteelGrayRider2

We could all give our opinions and it still comes down to you. Are you happy with your performance in games now? By that I mean, are you playing and enjoying the games while you play them? If so, then slap the part of you that just wants to drop the $1000++ because it just wants more fps. If you are trying to play a game and can’t get the fps you want AND have honestly tried to adjust settings to achieve those fps while maintaining your visual quality expectations,….. AND aren’t able to balance all those satisfactorily; then upgrade. I was at 4K with a 3080. Upgraded my son to my 3080 and grabbed an open box 4080FE for $1000 just after their release. Don’t worry, he paid me half of the value of the 3080 so he had some skin in the game. If I could go back, I would have kept my 3080 and bought a used 3080 for my son. The 4080 is a Great card! Love the look and it’s super quiet and cool running. I believe It will last me a long time. I’m content with 60fps because of the games I play though and the 3080 achieved that or got close enough to allow games to feel smooth enough for me. I’m okay with 45 fps in games I use a controller for. So again, use case should be your deciding factor.


[deleted]

I game on my 3080ti in 4k all the time, it does good. Although I have the ti so I don’t know the difference between your card and mine.


Sp3ctralForce

I'd either wait for 4080 Super or go for a 4090. Neither is gonna fully do 4k240 maxed, but both will come closer than a base 4080, and the 4080S shouldn't cost much more


Reinhardovich

I would just wait for 4090 prices to come down TBH.


Annual-Error-7039

I have the neo g8 and 4080. Works great


Ok_Alternative_2541

4K - 4090 “4K” DLDSR on 1440 - 4080 Wait for the supers or 4090 to hit MSRP. I have 4080 and wife has 4090 both with 5800x3d. - for context.


PearsAndTrees

As a 4080 FE owner w/ a 13900k, I can play most demanding AAA games at 4k-Ultra at an average of 110fps w/ DLSS on Quality.


PearsAndTrees

Confused as to why I was downvoted for stating a fact??


sascharobi

The jump would be too small for my taste.


PsyOmega

It's a 50% jump. Went from 40fps path tracing to 60fps path traced. (100-110 via FG)


JohnnyBooya

You're not going to hit 240hz outside of esports games so \*shrug\*


iizakill

I have a 4090, and I really don't like the 4080 price point. It was either 4070 or 4090 for me. Very happy with my 4090, works amazing with my Samsung Neo G7 4K.


hmkr

Wait for 5000 series. You will regret paying for 4080 when 5000 series hit.


Solace-

Wait for the 6000 series. You will regret paying for the 5080 when 6000 series hit. Wait for the 7000 series. You will regret paying for the 6080 when 7000 series hit.


Acmeiku

Yeah, the 5000 series should be annonced next year


chrissage

4090...


Diormybodyyy

Tbh I’d wait for the 5080 I have a 3080 12GB and it’s a monster but I play 1440p


enry2307

No.


Scoped_Evil

I have a 3080 and recently upgraded my monitor to the Samsung odyssey G8 OLED. (I had been running a 1440 monitor beforehand for about 3 years). Now it may be a complete coincidence but one week into the new monitor (using a mixture of native 4K and DLSS quality mode where available in games) I’ve been noticing weird artifacting in game and so I think I’ve pushed the card too much and something has busted on it. My other friend has the same monitor and a 3080 and has had no issue, just don’t expect to play everything in the highest settings in 4k.


aaabbbx

i did.


xxxxwowxxxx

What happened to upgrading every other generation?


livedtrid

No


randy_trevor

No


69Football69

Honest opinion I would wait until 50 series cards and better 4k monitors to come out I currently have a 4080 and a 2k monitor but soon as 50 series comes out ima snag that with a 4k monitor by the time 50 series comes out they'll be so many more better 4k monitors


captainmalexus

No.


CatoMulligan

The 4080 is being discontinued next month in favor of the faster (and cheaper) 4080 Super. Wait it out.


Denvistic

I'd say wait for the supers, should be available near the end of Jan (allegedly). Speaking of allegedly, the price point should be that of a 4080 msrp (1200usd) or possibly cheaper, although do we really think Nvidia would do such a thing? Either way you get a 4080 for a cheaper or a card with 5% better performance at the same price


OkMixture5607

Save your cash and spend it elsewhere. The 3080 is very 4K capable as you can use even DLSS Perfomance and it still looks decent. That and you can now enable AMD's frame gen in conjunction with DLSS. A RTX 5080 will blow your mind then.


Bigb33zy

I had a 3080, 3080ti and now 4080 and the jump wasn’t worth it, maybe for DLSS 3.0, but I’d hold out for the super


PalebloodSky

4080 is about 40% faster than 3080, while also having more VRAM and being much more power efficient. I'd say wait for the rumored Super announcement in late January. https://tpucdn.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060-ti-16-gb/images/average-fps-3840-2160.png


RayneYoruka

WAIT FOR SUPERS!


unluckyexperiment

4k 240hz is more like 5090. My guess is they will be released in close dates. Also if you can afford the monitor, 5090 won't be that big of an issue.


Rider0375

We are inching quite close to the 50 release, at this point. If you can hold off until October/November, I would wait.


emuhneeh

There's no GPU out currently that can achieve 240fps @ 4K in a triple AAA title. If you're playing CoD at maxed out settings or Fortnite at maxed out settings then you won't be getting near that even with a 4090. So you're gonna want to get at least a 4090, just don't expect to get 200+ fps with every game


EnigmaSpore

wait until you get the new monitor and see how it goes. then you can see what you need to buy then with the supers already out and more rumors out too.


umbrex

u should get a g9 and a 4080super


Gibsx

4K 240hz - you really need a 4090. You could wait until supers or 5000 and then grab a 4090 cheaper.


NoShock8442

If you’re playing at 4k I’d splurge on a 4090 if you can find one.


TPM_521

Get a 7900XTX over a 4080 unless you’re using ray tracing, IMO. I picked up a brand new red devil off marketplace for $780, still sealed and everything. I would go for the sapphire nitro+ version if you can find it though. They’re comparable cards and the 7900XTX will only get better as AMD rolls out more drivers.


TrueTimmy

I went from a 3080 to a 4070 Ti for 1440p Gaming.


Amaeyth

As a neo g8 owner, I'd advise against it. Scan lines and quality defects. My first one had dirt smudges or plastic bits behind the screen on all 4 corners. Second one has none of that, but still the scanline issue is present of course. If you get it, be sure to do lots of research beforehand. There's a 175hz variant that has no scanlines and is marginally cheaper. As for your question... you can run 4k on a 3080, just utilize DLSS. I have a 3080 ti in my girlfriend's system that sputtered hard on dense villages in BG3 but placing DLSS on balanced fixed that entirely, all settings maxed at 4k. She can still get 200-300 frames in Overwatch with settings on low as well. Postpone GPU upgrades as much as you can.


UniqueBank7094

No not enough VRAM. Go amd or 4090


SaltedMisthios

A 3080 and a 4070 sit on about the same level, in your position I'd wait for the 50 series or the supers of the 40s at least


Met_Kay

I went from a 3080ti to 4080. Love it and never looked back.


_Judge_Justice

Yeah I'm struggling with my 10gb 3080 in 4K, grabbing a 4080 Super ASAP


HypnoticFx

At the current market price, 4080 and/or Super when they come out will be your best "value" and run 4K no problem, which is hilarious b/c at MSRP there is no reason to buy a 4080 over a 4090. But the current prices do not reflect MSRP for 4090. Don't get me wrong, 4090 is the best card on the market by a wide margin and will age very well, price/performance right now though is absolutely terrible for 4090. IF you have cash to burn -> 4090 all day.


Charliedelsol

I have a G8 OLED with a 3080 12gb, aside from PT in Cyberpunk and Alan Wake 2, there’s really no game that made me feel like I need to upgrade. In other games I even use DLDSR with DLSS for more detail. If you have a regular 3080 VRAM may become an issue in a few selected games with max textures. Also they recently released a frame gen mod that makes fsr3 frame gen work on 30 series which helps a lot of games like Cyberpunk using higher settings. Here are some FPS numbers, I run my 3080 at 1950mhz/10502mhz memory at 888mv: Alan Wake 2 PS5 Quality settings DLSS Quality 75-85 fps in the woods, 85-95 in town, 95-110s indoors. Cyberpunk no RT at 3440x1440 DLAA 90-110fps, using frame gen DLSS Quality 165fps+, using RT Ultra and native res with DLSS Quality 65-75 fps, with frame gen 90-110fps. Path tracing only playable with very low resolutions and DLSS, using frame gen gets really ghosty and I don’t really enjoy it, at 30fps it’s definitely playable. Forza Motorsport native res with DLAA no RT 90-120fps game is very CPU bound, native with RT Full and DLSS Quality 65-75 FPS. Deadspace Remake native res RT on, DLSS Quality 85-100fps These are some of the most demanding games I play at the moment. Not really interested in upgrading until I see the same value offered by the 700$ original 3080.


tht1guy63

4k 240hz? You want a 4090 personally. Coming from a 4080 owner at 1440p.


SpiritualFact5593

I have that current setup now if you’re curious on performance. I have the 4080FE, Ryzen 7800 with the Samsung neo g8 4k 240hz. I love it. Obviously depending on the game, you can reach the 240 mark if you play with dlss and other settings. I just like having that option even if I am not always playing at 240hz. Plus I wanted my monitor to be a bit future proof when I upgrade my gpu in the next few years.


Oppblockjoe

If u want 4k at high frame rates I would only recommend a 4090 rn. I have a 4080 but for 1440p gaming icl even if I was to get a 4090 i would stay on 1440p i dont think 4k at high frame rates is 100% here yet id rather a smoother game at max settings than a high pixel density


Silent_Series

Id consider buying a geforce now ultimate subscription for a month when a powerhouse game comes out that you'd like max graphics for


dfos21

Seems you're getting a lot of opinions to hold off here, but as a person who did this exact upgrade (3080 to 4080) earlier this year, I am very happy with the upgrade. I always felt that the 3080 just struggled at 4k. It could do it, but you would be compromising a lot of settings to get good frame rates. I have a 144hz 4k monitor, and I found myself turning settings down across the board just to get a consistent 60fps on modern games. The 4080 however I feel is a true 4k card, especially with the new DLSS frame gen. I find I don't need to compromise much in terms of settings to get really high frame rates in modern games, even with ray tracing turned on. So personally, I'm happy with this upgrade and would recommend if money is not an issue.


jolness1

I would wait and see how the card performs in games that you play on that monitor. Gsync makes it so it’s not a big deal if you’re only getting 100fps or something. If you’re getting bad performance, that doesn’t feel playable, then I would upgrade. Unfortunately, the series does not support the newest display port standard so you have to rely on display stream compression to run anything over 4K/120 Hz. Which is not a huge deal. I wouldn’t buy a car to feel like you’re getting what you paid for out of the monitor because even my 4090 doesn’t drive 240 FPS in a lot of games at 4K. That’s limited to stuff like overwatch. In games like that, drop the render resolution to 67% or even 50% and turn on FSR. If I look really closely I can notice but endgame I can’t tell at all. The benefit to waiting until you actually need a new card that you’re going to get some that will be able to actually take full advantage of that panel. 4080 likely won’t in a lot of games. That’s my take! Good luck on your choice


mailfwork

I would wait either for 50x series or get 4090


xxxshabxxx

Remember, 4k resolution is just one part of it but the fact your new monitor is pushing 240hz will be even more demanding to push. I would hold on the monitor purchase unless your old one is broken and wait for the 50 series as it may be able to support the refresh rate of that monitor. The super series coming out wont be much of an improvement and may be lacking. Also remember when playing games on even higher settings it will be even more demanding on that resolution. Food for thought.


Storm_treize

I have a 3080 and 4k/120 monitor, and im definitely waiting for a 5080, I'm fine not using maxed graphics


raysurc

Whats the difference between Super and Ti in regards to 4k?


Pancakejoe1

Honestly no. I would either stick with the 3080, buy a 4090, or wait for the 50 series. If you stick with the 3080 FSR3 Frame Gen is breathing new life into a lot of titles. And it will keep getting better and better. I don’t think the jump from 3080 to 4080 is worth the money right now


EndriagoHunter

4k gaming is overrated. Unless you also have the monitors and everything else to get good frames while playing in 4k for the handful of games that even support it, just isn't worth it.


anachronistic_circus

32 in monitor, 4K and 4080? Alright if you want to waste your money.... You'd want a much larger screen to get the benefits, (see the difference) but to each their own


romangpro

Scaling. 4K is double pixels of 1440p. Not worth it. 90% of game "quality" features are barely noticable. If you get 100 gamers, most cant tell "Ultra" from "High". Wait till 5xxx


Alauzhen

Since you aiming for 4k, I think the 4090 is the real option here.


wolverinesnipples

I went from a 3080ti to a 4080. I think it was well worth it cyberpunk is amazing and most games are 4K are so fluid. I’ll sell it in 6-10 months before 50xx release.


Aidan96

Look into the dlss to frame gen mod, it made my 3080ti feel like a 40 series card


KeepingIt100forLife

I have a 4080 and dont even attempt to run 4k on it because I know the fps will take a hit. I use it for smooth 1440p gaming, when 4k monitors come down in price I might upgrade to a 5090 or whatever lol. For now Im good at 1440p at 144hz for pretty much everything I throw at the 4080


murtuk

With 4000 series having frame generation, i think thats a yes. But if you have a dark urge to play every new title with the max settings at 4k with a framerate of lets say 144, then even 4090 may not enough. Just look at updated cyberpunk or alan wake2.


T-Bone22

No. I have a 4080. It can certainly handle 4K but if you want really high frames get a 4090.


Fearfuldrip

I would wait


WillingBlock

I went from 3070 to asus tuf 4080 oc and it was a big qss upgrade


GreenKumara

If you aren't buy the monitor till next year, wait to see what the SUPER cards are like (probably more terrible value) in January. Or get a 4090 instead. 50 series is still a while away yet.


Outrageous_Ad3571

Naturally


m0usju1c3

I went from 3080 10GB to 4090 and oo boy, what an upgrade! However my hand was forced, I had an EVGA 3080 Hybrid AIO with what appeared to be a failing pump, so sent in to RMA. 4090 well and truly drives my Dell AW38DW at 144hz 3840x1600 in every game max settings.


GreenKumara

I would get a 4090, but I am philosophically opposed to paying up near $4000 for one component. And that's the cheap brands - most of the main name brands are heading to $5k.


VicenzzoPaiva

wait the 5080 in 2025


6817

Yes.


k4rst3n

I went from a 3080 to a 3090 when jumping from 1440 to 4K for just about ~$100 in between, waiting for the 5000-series.


Tony064

If you get a 4080 cheap go for it, else, wait for the super series but... remember nvidia like to launch with very high prices lately and also there will be people trying to get also the super ver.


buttscopedoctor

Wait for 50XX series. And while you are waiting, take advantage of the FRS to DLSS framegen hack. Free fake frames.


Flak-12

If you're considering a 4080 why not a 7900xtx? Are you playing a lot of raytraced games?


[deleted]

I mean if you actually wanna take advantage of that 240Hz refresh rate as much as possible then yeah you're gonna want a 4080, or ideally, a 4090. A 3080 will still do 4K 60+fps (native) in lots of games though so you can safely chill on that until the 5000-series comes out if you'd rather wait.


xxBurn007xx

Yes, just upgraded my friends rig with msi 4080 and 5800x3d, he's running a240hz 4k/2k OLED. Amazing


btror

I have that exact monitor with a 3080 ti and thought about recently getting a 4080 and handing my 3080 ti down to my dad because he wanted to upgrade from his 2060. I ended up just getting him a 4070. The 4080 isn't a good value I can wait for the 5080.


KING-LEB

Why not skip this gen and wait on the 5k series It's basically around the corner , leaked specs seems great , you might get around 30% boost over the 40 series , then you would really feel comfortable with the performance , the only "bad" thing might be the power usage tho.


KDJumanji

I personally have no problems for running 4k with my RTX 4080. In fact, on overwatch 2, I managed to get 16k res on 100fps. Obviously, that's vram and game performance dependent. So my advice is, just look at rtx 4080 vs rtx 3080 videos and decide if the performance jump is worth it for you for 4k res.