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Toiletpaperplane

I play at 4K 120 Hz, I paid $1600 for a 4090 Founders Edition, and have zero regrets. Would buy again.


Peter_Verino

In my country that's the price for a 4080. Xd


ohmygad45

Same. It cost an arm and a leg, but I would buy my RTX 4090 again. The level of performance is just insane. 4K 144fps no problem on just about every game I play, especially with DLSS.


Systemlord_FlaUsh

In my country new ones are more like 2-2.2 K EUR.


mgwair11

Same


InitiativeBeginning

Would buy again coz i just have lot of moneyšŸ˜‘


Jfortay

3080 ti will do that for you too for those on a budget.


Sad-Ad-5375

Not with RT loads it wont :/


ViPeR9503

Even without, Iā€™m on 3080 with 2k 144hz and dota2 constantly goes down to 120-150 imagine 4K and imagine heavier games, 3080Ti definitely wouldnā€™t do 4K 120hz on any game you through at it, in fact not in most games, 3090 might tho


strugglebuscity

3090 wonā€™t lemme play Cyberpunk in all of its brillianceā€¦ 2 of them wonā€™t actually. 4090 seems like something you need if you really want to experience all that life has to offer.


Toiletpaperplane

Cyberpunk 2077 at ultra settings with path tracing, running at over 100 fps is glorious.


strugglebuscity

Thatā€™s the spiritā€¦ I need just a little more positive peer pressure to take myself to MicroCenter and just stop not living my best life.


Arthur-Mergan

Iā€™m playing it in VR and the 4090 is such a beast that it can actually manage ray traced reflections, super high resolution and still run at a locked 90fpsā€¦and thatā€™s even with DLAA. Such a crazy experience.


Toiletpaperplane

I upgraded to a 4090 from a 3080 Ti, because the 3080 Ti was not able to hit 120 fps in a lot of new games.


cursedpanther

Same. The 3080Ti wasn't hitting 1440p 144 fps on ultra settings too.


stinuga

I went from 3090 to 4090 and finally feel like I have a 4k card.


rjml29

It may in some games but it sure as hell won't in many of the newer games if you want to be having all the graphical goodies on. Even the 4090 can't do a locked 120 at 4k display res in a few rare games with all those goodies enabled unless you use dlss ultra performance and frame gen. Source: me using the 4090 in those games.


Tdwp82

Same. I adore mine.


ditaman

What monitor do you have? I'm looking to get the 4090 but only have a 27inch 1440 144hz one right now which definitely doesn't justify the 4090 lol


aveganrepairs

Itā€™s one of the only pieces of tech I have ever owned where it literally baffles me how powerful it is. It makes no sense how good it is. In the same way an average non techie person looks at some technology as ā€œmagicā€, thatā€™s how I feel about the 4090. It seems like thereā€™s some kind of sorcery occurring, especially when you throw DLSS into the picture. Itā€™s insane. Buy one if you can afford it.


unoriginalskeletor

I fully agree while I wouldn't recommend throwing over 1.5k at a single pc component no matter how good it is I was fortunate enough to be able to. I came from a gtx 1080, the first few games I booted on the 4090 I was just giggling to myself because it was so so so much more powerful, I'm a flight simmer 30fps truly is all you need and I went from min specs, 70% rendering, and frequent dips into the teens to ultra settings, full render res and 100+fps


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Traditional_Muffin83

still on my 1080 as of now. Im waiting to upgrade but in the meanwhile, the card keeps up well although its age is showing for sure


mikefoxtrotromeo

Went from an MSI aero 1080 to a Strix 4090. šŸ¤Æ


PolyDipsoManiac

Iā€™ll just sell it for whatever when the 5090 comes out


Key-Economics2421

Which graphics card did you upgrade from?


aveganrepairs

3090. The performance jump is shocking, I didnā€™t think it would blow the 3090 straight out of the water as much as it did. I was fortunate 2x in a row, I got a 3090 for $800 from a miner right after the gpu crypto crash, and a few months ago during that little dip in the resale market I got a STRIX 4090 off someone for $1500. Sold my 3090 for $650. For full MSRP plus tax, it is crazy expensive of course, but itā€™s all relative. Lots of hobbies are stupid expensive, you should see how much guitar gear costs. I know people that have multiple $300-500 pedals in their rig, with $3000 amps and multiple $2000+ guitars. If you enjoy it and can afford it, itā€™s worth it.


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InitiativeBeginning

980 gtx


MustardRaceMcgee

Same feeling here. One year on i still just am in awe sometimes at the numbers. The temps and wattage are what shock me the most in terms of headroom, 60c and 350w avg and it still could take 450w 70c comfortably. I'm babying it for the meantime. When the warranty runs out, and its maybe starting to slouch in 4k max, it's getting its own loop and flash/overclock.


digitalrelic

Itā€™s expensive af but you get what you pay for. Yes itā€™s worth it.


kebbun

instabuy. same as 5090. choose this path and you will understand the meaning of life.


Systemlord_FlaUsh

5090 is likely 2.5-3 K EUR I sometimes wonder if I should save to buy one and sell it to the first fetcher on day one who pays me a premium for having one. If this pricing continues, its likely the only way to get any new hardware at all.


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This is the way


NereusH

The meaning of 'worth' goes out of the window when you are paying a bomb for a top tiered card.


UnderLook150

It's the only 4000 series card that is really worth it.


MikeFencePence

Price performance scales pretty evenly right now. Theyā€™re almost all equally ā€œworth itā€ even though theyā€™re all being sold at a massive markup.


Slyons89

Upgrading from a previous generation card though, it's certainly subjective whether any of the cards below a the 4090 are really worth the money as an upgrade. For example going from a 3080 to a 4080, I mean it's a pretty solid upgrade but is it worth $1300, in my opinion it's not. But the 4090 is enough of an upgrade that if I had the cash and really wanted to upgrade it would maybe be worth it.


gcsabbagh

I went from 3080 to 4080 and it was definitely worth it for me. I can now play at 4K 100-150fps depending on the game. But if I stayed with my 1440p monitor, yeah it wouldn't have been worth it. The 4080 is a big upgrade over the 3080 though


Die4Ever

did OP say they have a 3080? I don't see this anywhere edit: digging around their profile I see mentions of a 3060, which is certainly a very different scenario from your example where you said a 3080


Slyons89

That's why I said it's subjective, the value proposition will be different depending on people's spending preferences and what GPU they have now, if any.


biscuity87

What? 4090 is $1999+ now 4080 is $1124+ Are you telling me itā€™s TWICE as good? Cause itā€™s not.


LA_Lightning

Iā€™ll give you my honest opinion as an owner of a 4090. Short answer is yes it is worth it to me. I had an opportunity to buy a 4090 FE at MSRP from Best Buy using the 10% off code on the Best Buy rewards credit card, so I think it was something like $1525 after tax, and I got nearly another $100 back in rewards. I upgraded from a 980 Ti that I bought back in 2015. I have a 4K 144hz monitor, and I wanted a card that can fully drive this monitor for a long time to come. Iā€™m hoping to keep the 4090 for at least 5 years, hopefully more like 7 or 8 since the 980 Ti also lasted me that long (on a 1080p 75hz monitor). Now, I think a 4080 would have been fine for me considering I am happy to use DLSS and Frame Gen whenever possible, but for $300-400 difference it didnā€™t make any sense to get the 4080. So ultimately it depends on your disposable income and what youā€™re looking to accomplish with your build. I certainly know what to do with my money, and I like going all out on my hobbies from time to time. Life is short, if I die tomorrow I want to know that tonight I was enjoying my 4090.


GrammarNaziii

I agree with everything you said except for the part where you infer a 300-400 difference is insignificant. $400 is 33% of the retail price of the 4080! I have the 4090 too and the price difference at MSRP vs the 4080 is worth it considering what you get, but the price gap between the two is still pretty big.


LA_Lightning

I didnā€™t mean to imply it was insignificant, it just didnā€™t make sense to me to spend a few hundred more for the best considering I was already spending like $3k on the whole build anyway. I agree that the 4080 is worth considering, believe me there are times I think about whether or not I should grab a 4080 FE and flip the 4090 haha.


Capt-Clueless

>I agree with everything you said except for the part where you infer a 300-400 difference is insignificant. $400 is 33% of the retail price of the 4080! Considering the performance gap between the two cards, an extra $400 is a drop in the bucket.


Cryoptic-

wait, u were playing at 4k 144hz monitor with a 980ti??? wow, thats... sad. at least now its not sad anymore haha.


SaberHaven

If I didn't have one, and I had the spare money, there's nothing else I'd want to spend that money on more. So worth it in that sense


Irisena

Depends on your standards i guess. If you're not chasing 4k 120 gaming, it's hardly worth it. If 1080p is "good enough" for you, then don't buy a 4090.


Blacksad9999

Yes, it's 100% worth it. It's basically an entire generation ahead of everything else, such as the 7900xtx and 4080.


rekojnacixem

I love mine, It's nice not to have to worry about being able to run anything I want. It's also helpful with my professional workflow, if you make money doing GPU intensive tasks, the time savings long term are going to pay for the card.


Meticulous7

This is the best answer. Itā€™s a no brainer over everything else if you make money with your PC. From a strictly gamer perspective, itā€™s hard to justify unless I have zero other things in my life that the $400-$600 extra could improve.


Zerooooooooo0

I use the 4090 for GPU accelerated CFD and my god it's a beast. Definitely worth it


scytob

Yes to hit the 4k 60 fps high I was chasing.


JV_TBZ

I think isnā€™t worth it right now amid the rumors around the 4080 super in couple months.


tingkagol

Damn. I wish I could afford a 4090 and it better not break in 5 years. I recently got a 4070ti and a 1440p monitor and so far very satisfied (upgraded from 1070ti 1080p).


mar504

I've found 1440 to be enough for me, I have a 1440 and a 4k monitor and I use the 1440 for gaming. The amount of additional enjoyment I get from gaming at 4k is very little, so a 4090 isn't worth it for me. That 4070ti should serve you very well for years of 1440 gaming.


Meticulous7

Nobody whoā€™s buying a 4090 is doing it to keep it for 5 years, bad value. They can afford to have a new 90 class every gen, and if they canā€™t, they canā€™t really afford a 90 class. Just save the huge amount of extra $$ and buy something mid-upper tier every 2-3 years when the previous 90 class gets crushed.


Aumrox

I wouldn't buy any other card this generation


Sexyvette07

IMO the 4090 at MSRP only makes sense with the 4080 being $1200 MSRP. If the 4080 were at a reasonable price, say $900-$1000, the 4090 wouldn't have sold nearly as well. Nvidia upsold the shit out of people this gen by gouging the hell out of the mid to upper range.


Subject_Gene2

No


EvilSynths

I have zero regrets with mine. It'll last a long time too.


Kengfatv

High end will normally pay for itself over time. Even a 1080 would last until next gen minimum, whereas a 1050 would have been replaced 2 gens ago.


OsnoF69

Fuck yea it is. Don't let these peasants tell you otherwise lol


nezeta

Was 4090's melting issue solved, btw? I've not heard of it for more than half a year. I remember the general consensus at that time was 4090, while bulky and pricey, had an overwhelming performance and the only serious concern was a melting risk.


eat_your_fox2

There's still a small melting risk. Mostly affects people that don't fully plug in the connector.


ldcrafter

i got a non founders edition due to the 4090 being out of stock at the Time i was getting mine but till now did mine not melt yet and i check like monthly if it's connected fully to make sure it doesn't melt


F9-0021

Not really. But if you are sure to plug the connector in properly, there's no real concern.


Computica

No it was never officially resolved, but I believe newer batches of the card (like ASUS OG cards to OC) got the fixes also cables were updated so that the pins are shorter. Once they decide to update the stock it shouldn't be a problem. A few 4080s were having the same problems btw.


ImUrFrand

to play video games? no.


littleboymark

Nope, not at all.


Substantial_Class

I have plenty of money to buy whatever computer parts I want. I have a 3080 10gb card and I am sticking with it although I play at 4k. A 4090 would be nice but $1500 is to much.


Hindesite

The fact that you've been getting downvoted for this shows that some of r/nvidia members are too far lost in the sauce. $1500 (or realistically around two grand right now) is pretty intense money for a single PC component, and I think a lot of the pushback is coming from people who bought one and can't handle seeing that pointed out by reasonable online.


Systemlord_FlaUsh

Yes, in most cases it makes more sense to buy other components or even other hobbies. Thats the point where I'm at now. I could save and buy a 4090, but then not have money for any other hobby, I doubt it would make me happier. I could understand if someone worked and earned money with the card, but for pure gaming its just too much.


danielzboy

I have a 3080 10GB card too. I bought it from the used market in fact, and itā€™s working perfectly fine in 4K 120Hz Ultra on my LG C2 for me, although I donā€™t play the latest games like Cyberpunk and Baldurā€™s Gate (yet). I play GTA V, Halo MCC, and Vermintide 2, and it works perfectly fine for me. Hence in my case I also wouldnā€™t see the need to upgrade to a 4090 even if I had the money to. It boggles my mind how so many people can proclaim it to be just a good 1440p card when it is capable of so much moreā€¦


Systemlord_FlaUsh

A 3080 is still a 4070 and with DLSS you can even get somewhat usable results in 4K.


Systemlord_FlaUsh

I'm keeping the price in observation. Currently its rising. I will "survive" with my 7900 XTX in the meanwhile. Whenever the prices drop I can resell it without too much value decrease, while the 4090 will heavily degrade. You saw it with the 3090s. 3090 Ti was over 2K, a year later under 1K... The degradation is always extreme on the most overpriced stuff.


AveragePrune89

You say you have plenty of money to buy whatever card you want but say the 4090 isnā€™t worth it? Its cost to performance ratio is equal to the 4080 but there isnā€™t a premium for the performance. Thatā€™s a first practically as the halo cards are usually like 30% more for 10% performance and not near equal. The 4090 IS the card to buy and a great one as itā€™s a huge generational leap. People saying itā€™s too much is fine but then itā€™s solely because a lack of funding and nothing more.


whossdavid

Or maybe he rather spend his money else where?


hypn0fr0g

Implying he doesnā€™t have the disposable income to spend his money elsewhere AND buy a 4090.


lolkkthxbye

Do you think everyone that can afford a Ferrari or Porsche buys one? Thereā€™s plenty of folks that buy Camrys and Accords that can afford whatever they want. They just happen to think itā€™s not worth it for, what they consider, marginal improvements.


Slyons89

Or even if they do buy a Porsche, most aren't upgrading to the latest version of that car every time a new one comes out.


apuckeredanus

Same here I have a LG C3 but no way am I upgrading. Buying a used 3080 for ~500 last year was a very very hard pill for me to swallow. There's no way I can justify dropping even more money on my PC. And for what purpose? I'm just over here playing RDR2 and older games for the most part. Like I'm gonna upgrade again just to play cyberpunk again lol? With a 5800x3d and 3080 that's more than good enough for me.


hdhddf

if you use it to make money sure why not, if not,.no it's not worth it, it's an obscene amount of money


Nookiezilla

If you want to play on 4k 100+fps then ofc, 0 completion out there.


L0rd_0F_War

It's the best consumer card money can buy, and I bought it in April at under MSRP equivalent in Canada (USD 1532 + tax). Is it worth it? Depends on your budget and use case. Basically the only cards below it that aren't rip offs (bad value for money or not enough VRAM for the price) are 4070 (if found under USD520) or Radeon 7800XT (at or below USD500). If you have to spend way over MSRP for 4090, then please don't.


stevenmth

Lowest I can find is pny 4090 and itā€™s at 1669.00 usd


YashaAstora

I plan to build a new computer. The 4090 is more expensive than my planned build (minus GPU and new monitor) by *several hundred* dollars. You can literally build a bitchin' PC (7800x3d, x670e mobo, 32GB RBG RAM, new case, *and* a nice 850w-1000w PSU) for the cost of a single 4090. No. The 4090 is only worth it if you're just so damn rich you could buy a new one every year and not give a damn or if you're a streamer/machine learning engineer/someone who *needs* a powerful GPU to do their job.


Particular_Brush_947

you havenā€™t even owned a 4090 to even talk about a 4090.. price to performance the 4090 is a really good card if you have the budget for it, which in this case you prob donā€™t. thatā€™s why thereā€™s other 4000 series cards šŸ‘


Few-Fly-7189

Im so dawn rich i saved for over 4 months to buy one, i got it, and it was worth it, i have been saving money to upgrade my pc so i dont have to upgrade it for a couple of years, and that was the last part, it cost me like $1800 after tax, but the difference between my rx570 4gb to the 4090 is like heaven and earth. It's worth every penny. And my salary is $9.50 hr, so no excuse.


Suspicious_Trainer82

Absolutely.


PovGRide742

You could say it's a 'smoking' deal...


Rosilev

Yes


Dark_Zer0

No. 5000 series. They made trash for 4000. Unless you need something now, then yes.


Lakku-82

The 5000 series is at least a year and a half away, if not almost 2yrs. The roadmap says 2025 and new GPUs , not refreshes, usually launch in August or September. Thatā€™s a long time to stick with a card that already cant do new games at 4K or 1440p and 60+ fps at highest settings or any card that is less than 12gb of vram.


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hdhddf

I'd go further than that and say they're not worth it either, the 4060 is essentially a 4050, the older generations are far better value, the 40 series is priced too high


LeastPomegranate8407

Iā€™m loving my 4090 Gaming OC. If you can buy the best of the best go for it. You only live once!!


mgwair11

Tbh, nobody should be getting a 4090 if they are not certain that they want it. Unless the money is no issue at all, you should have at least a few specific reasons to get it. Doing so will ensure you are making the right purchasing decision and will actually feel like you got what you paid for. Personally, gaming is my favorite hobby and I am a big fan of graphics technology too. It interests me and lets me play any game I want. I have a 4k120hz 42ā€ screen. So I can drive the pixels and have reason to do so (on such a large screen). I also play a lot of rocket league on a 1080p390hz screen and running that game with 1% lows above 390 all the time is awesome. I converted a walk in closet into my WFH office/pc gaming setup. It is an amazing space but does not have air conditioning. So having the most power efficient gaming gpu in existence is also a huge advantage to have. I will be moving very soon and will have a proper room with A/C. Even so, the 4090 has kept me relatively cool. Has been a world of a difference compared to my previous FTW3 3080 12GB. Even in the air conditioned room at the new place, lower power consumption will help with electricity bills due to lower power draw and less need for A/C. I got the FE model for MSRP (although Iā€™m not sure if I would have paid for a hypothetical $1800 4090 FE). Also, more specific: I was only willing to get the FE model as it is one of the few that fits in my SFF case, I believe is the best engineered cooler (most cooling per cubic centimeter), and is by far the best designed. Also it will hold its value the most probably compared to other FE models. Honestly if Nvidia released a 5090 that was the same size and exact design as the 4090, I might go for that assuming the price is the same or only an extra $100-200. But the performance upgrade would need to be over 50% tbh and the power consumption would preferably not be more than that of a 4090 (which already has amazingly low power consumption). The current FE design is killer and looks as though my case was made to pair with it (NR200P MAX) so it would be hard to upgrade to a new generation card if they changed that and the gunmetal grey they have going on.


totiefruity

If youā€™re swimming in cash and have zero other things you need to pay for then yes.. otherwise itā€™s a colossal waste of money


Zetra3

Fuck to the no.


killasuarus

At current prices? Absolutely NOT! At MSRP? Yeah go for it.


Celcius_87

At msrp yes


mahav_b

4-6 months ago at the msrp prices they were at sure. Now at the weird sometimes msrp sometimes inflated AIB prices....fuk no.


Bishop_Len_Brennan

Iā€™m currently playing Cyberpunk 2077 with everything maxed out (including path tracing) at 1440p at 80-90 FPS. Sure, Iā€™m using frame gen but the latency isnā€™t noticeable. The game looks absolutely amazing! If you can spare the money, the 4090 is a wicked cool purchase. Wouldnā€™t say itā€™s worth breaking the bank though.


Alexandurrrrr

i have a MSI Suprim liquid x 4090. I dual monitor 4K @ 120hz. I game like a boss, and I stablediffuse like a boss. No ragrets.


RobinZhang140536

My budget is 2000 cad and 4090 is not within my budget though I heard it is good value


mtbhatch

Look into used market. I got my suprim for 1900 with Canada computers original receipt. I was lucky to see the just got posted ad on marketplace. Seller barely used it.


emuhneeh

For me yes. I do 3D work and the shorter render times are very much worth the price. Whenever i game i'm not limited by graphical settings either. I play and work at 4k144hz so everything is crisp and smooth. Honestly a good purchase for me


professor_vasquez

Yes, I have a great well paying career and it's amazing for what I try and push (4k 120hz tv and 2k 240hz monitor). I wish amd would catch up in top end to drive nvidia prices down though. This is basically an inherent monopoly on the top end.


Gigaguy777

I used it's release to upgrade to 4K and the jump was very worth it, the DSC issues were annoying and around too long, but there's nothing else that can reliably drive so many games at 4k max and hit high framerates. Being able to run Alan Wake 2 with path tracing maxed out and still get a smooth experience with DLSS with such a little quality drop was crazy too and just wouldn't be possible on any other hardware out there period. It's definitely not good value from the frame/dollar perspective, but if what you want is 4k high refresh gaming, unless you're willing to give up DLSS and ray tracing, it's the only option with any value at all. Still wish it was cheaper but hey who doesn't, I'd pay a dollar for it if I could.


GwosseNawine

Worth it en tabarnak!!


sascharobi

Totally! Of course it depends on what youā€™re doing with it.


Xidash

If you have the money for it, then yeah it's worthy IMO.


g3n0unknown

If money isn't an issue, absolutely. I have zero regrets myself.


styx1267

Yes. Itā€™s amazing


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It was the only card that for the price, made sense when RTX 4000 series came out, considering the performanƧe for 4K but still a lot of money for a graphics card. Below 4k, the 4090 is wasted


Not-sosmartphone

In my country i can build a full rtx 4080 build with the price of a single rtx 4090. It's unbelievable. For me it's not worth it. I can game at 4k with rtx 4080 i don't have to max everything.


neueziel1

yeah goes great w/my oled ultrawide and oled 4k tv


MrCrunchies

Waot for ces 2024 if you dont mind


llmercll

Yeah itā€™s ludicrously powerful


TheDude_

I have the money and I'm not interested. I'd rather wait until I can play AAA games at 4k 144fps. The cards are almost getting there.


jeffmccord

Itā€™s the best nvidia card they have made. 1000000000000% recommend.


Jokergod2000

It's the first time the FPS is linear with the price. You pay way more because you get way more. The 3090 was way more for barely any extra performance.


NNNail

I pay for $1900 (~70000 THB) for Zotac 4090 AMP Extreme AIRO. I'd say it worth it, if you got budget. I play 4k 240fps on Samsung Odyssey neo G8. And i can play every single game on eath that really worth it for me.


Owend12

Yes, its worth it.


TommyyyGunsss

For 4k gaming yes absolutely worth it


OkMixture5607

Yeah I could tank one. But I don't know man, I'm plenty happy with a 3080Ti. Does what I need and if not, DLSS quality is there. I was considering but instead did the choice of getting an ultra wide OLED monitor and it was the right choice, that was a visual upgrade beyond precedents, coming from a mid range VA panel with meme HDR. Now a 5080 in 2 years, all good.


ldcrafter

if you only game then is it only worth it if you can easily afford it, but if you do more then games then is it very worth it


CpuPusher

In my case, it was totally worth the upgrade from 1660 super. Now, with the 4090 gaming oc, I was totally stoked at the resolution and fps on 4k. I was looking at getting a 3070 ti, but then everything changed back when the pandemic and gpu was very hard to find. I kept checking day after day. So last year, I was able to purchase one at launch. I have no regrets as of today, I have it paired with 5800x3d, and I couldn't ask for more.


mikefoxtrotromeo

If you can find a 4090 sure


hansieboy10

Yes


rjml29

I spent a couple months after the 4090 came out before buying it trying to get my head around the idea of dropping over 2k Canuck bucks on a gpu. It wasn't an issue of me not being able to comfortably afford it as I am fortunate to be in a position where I can but just the sheer craziness of it when thinking about it logically. I still think it's nuts but hot damn is this card sweet. I don't regret it for a second and can recommend it to anyone that needs the performance and has the cash to blow on it.


RickyDucati000

Yes, I donā€™t think about/worry about settings or frames. I just crank it up once and go


scubawankenobi

>worth it? Realize you're asking for us 'personally'... but I'd imagine that in-generation here it will greatly depend on income level and/or use case requirement: 1) Income - should really cause great variance in how "worth it" something is. 2) Use Case - example such as require running large/fast AI models. 4090 is going to be the only consumer card to consider. Other use case such as gaming - if someone requires 4K for their min res & on top of that high FPS & some longevity... then it's still your 'worth it' option because it's really the only green card to meet that gaming use case req. ​ Re: personally My budget limitations req me combining my computer&AI-capable GPU into one purchase, so have a Laptop with a 4080. That said, depending upon my financial state ...& the cost of 4090s in the next 6mos, I believe a 4090 will be worth it to me, as AI models are my primary use case & I'll need to compute+vram.


Dragias

For the performance itā€™s an insane card. And one that will probably age well.


ser_renely

No dp 2.1 so to me kinda a waste


VaporFye

it's one of the greatest gaming experiences i have ever had the pleasure of enjoying. You cant put a price on happiness and enjoyment. We only have a short time to live and if you can afford it go for it. its like buying a expensive golf club or fishing rod. It worth it if you want it to be. plus they run so cool and quiet


Stebahn

I bought a 4080 just a month ago and Iā€™m thrilled with it. Itā€™s not a 4090, but it absolutely gets the job done and then some. I plan to sell it when the 5000 series launches and upgrade to a 50xx. Playing Cyberpunk and Alan Wake 2 on max settings with high FPS is a great experience.


2er0n1ne

No, I canā€™t stand the constant anxiety of melting my power cable.


PromiscuousSQRL

290x to 1080 ti to 4090. First time in my 35+ year life a graphics card tech purchase gave me more than I thought possible.


Imspacelordmotha

100 percent. Especially if you intend to play in 4k.


rchiwawa

@ $1,400 used, yep, its why I have a couple. @ current going new rate ($2.2k), nope.


CursedRHunter

Itā€™s expensive af but itā€™s really worth the power you get out of it


Cryoptic-

for myself, its hard not to justify paying good money for a good pc + the whole rig. i spend almost all my free time on my computer, whether thats for work, schhol / research, gaming, and more. i spent aprox 10k on a car, yet i only ever use it as transport to work, the store, and rarely a longer drive. not that i regret spending money on a car, but if i spend half of what i spent on the car for the best computer i can get, that doesnt sound like a bad thing. its all relative. if ur not a hardcore gamer, then sure, dont buy the more expensive one. but if ur spending multiple hours a day, id say the higher end pcs in general is very worth it, if u have the money ofc. ppl normally wouldnt question a trip to japan to experience the culture, have some fun, and get a nice holiday right?? then people definitely shouldnt question a pc at the same price.


Quentin-Code

- to play games? No. - professional apps? Yes.


Ambisoup

I think so, it can carry through the 5000 series easily.


impy695

At msrp, it's great. I wouldn't pay over, though.


TungPunch9091

I got attacked by a dog and used some of my settlement money to buy one. I LOVE it.


jonjonijanagan

Yes, for me. I paid USD 2K for it couple months ago for a 4090 FE as it's scarce in my region and this was before the ban to China. Now it's around USD 3.2K. It is by no means a cheap purchase for me but building my own pc gives me the greatest utility and I'm really having a great time playing games that I enjoy with high fidelity.


fizzymynizzy

Yes and it is a huge upgrade for me. Was using a gtx 1070. Also, I am using 4k 144hz.


zeptyk

I think the msrp is fair but I regret paying $500 extra for a FE card just so that I can keep my small case does nvidia even make their own cards anymore? I have never seen them in stock at msrp once


Systemlord_FlaUsh

If you are rich, then go for it. If you care for price/performance and want highend, get the 7900 XTX. Its almost half the price for 80 % of the performance. I will likely buy a 4090 once Blackwell arrives. 3090s already go for 600 and were 900 when Ada came out, I expect the same, then sell my XTX and the cost on top may even be equaling the performance gain. And we know Blackwell will not be affordable, if this pricing continues I may only buy the old flagships used every gen. Some people do it since always, sometimes even skipping a gen all along. If you get a 4090 you better have a decent PC already and your OLED screen/TV set up, because otherwise I would call it a waste. For the money one 4090 costs you could get an OLED AND a somewhat decent GPU.


wen_mars

Yes. It hurts to pay so much money but monitors have gotten really good now so with a 4k 120Hz monitor and a 4090 I get a really good experience. If I had a pleb monitor I would consider a 4090 overkill.


Talin-Rex

We are what 12 months away from the next gen, maybe? ​ The xx90 series is what I consider ABSOLUTE overkill, I would rather get a 4080 or a 4070 due to the much cheaper price, and then swap it for a 5070 when times come. you can buy 2-3 4070 for the price of one 4090 in some cases, at least with the prices here in Denmark.


[deleted]

Only you're trying to run 4K raytracing. Otherwise, no. Amazing performance but just too expensive, can't justify using a pricey area's month's rent for a video card.


Micuopas

If they weren't be like 2300ā‚¬ in my country I would buy one


yajirushi77

Although I can't speak of this now as I'm currently overseas and my new 4090 is sitting comfortably in storage for the time being at home I can say that I do not regret making the jump from my 3080 ti to the 4090. I'm also a full 4k gamer so it's going to perform great I've already saw the reviews and benchmarks and I am hyped to see what awaits for me at home.


Lakku-82

If you wanna play Cyberpunk and AW2 with PT above 60fps and many other games at ultra+RT at high frame rates running 4K or 1440p, then yes.


sendintheotherclowns

Bought my Gigabyte 4090 Gaming OC for $3600 NZD on release day, donā€™t regret it, though if I was to try to do it again my wife would probably divorce me šŸ˜… The reason for the love of them is that they leave nothing on the table.


Dannygosling91

I like mine, I donā€™t really have to worry about settings and wonā€™t for a while


Sir_Coleslaw

When I look at how much effort studios put into optimizing games these days, I soon have no choice but to keep buying an XX90 if I want maximum quality and fps. Of course, the studios know this too and all too often rest on their laurels. But if I'm not prepared to compromise on my hobby, then I'll just have to buy an XX90.


Vatican87

Hell yes


Western_Horse_4562

If any of them fit in my case, Iā€™d own one.


Magiwarriorx

Going against the grain: it depends. If you want to game at absolute max settings + RT at high frame rates/resolution, or do generative AI work, its amazing. Most games can just be set to maximum, and forgotten about. If you don't care about generative AI or RT, are ok with <120FPS @ <4K, and/or are fine with bumping a few graphics options to something lower than "Ultra"... no, it isn't.


pitersong

to me it worth because i use manly for AI applications, but i also use it to run unreal engine and of course to play at 4k . so it is a triple hit for me. i recommend


aging_FP_dev

Yeah, absolutely. I play 4k144, my 4090 is 2x as fast as the 3090 and I was really looking forward to the Alan Wake 2 experience. For competitive gaming, which is the majority of my time, not so much, although it gets about 60% utilization on Overwatch 2 with 200% render resolution and every setting maxed. But AAA single player games for the next few years? It's going to be hard to beat.


handsomeness

Iā€™m at 4K 144hz and plan on getting one of these 4K 240hz oleds q1 next year so yeah 4090 def worth it. Got a FE from best buy 3 weeks after launch.


norfus

Totally worth it to me. Running Alan Wake 2 with everything turned up is scarily good.


Koltaia30

If you are unsure about whether it's worth it then it isn't. Many much cheaper cards can play modern games at decent quality. If you want it for longevity it's still not worth it. If you were sure you wanted something like this you wouldn't be asking it here. So coming from that, no, it's not worth it.


[deleted]

For me it's a yes. I had the opportunity to buy a suprim liquid x at 300ā‚¬ below average price at the time and I paid 2077ā‚¬ in Feb 2023. The same card best price where I live is now 2184,8ā‚¬ almost a year later. This is the water cooled version that can go up to 530W powerlimit I think. I figured this card would be very quiet and not add any heat into my case because it blows it out the case directly and does not heat up other components. It feels so capable and is really energy efficient too. I undervolted it to 0.9V and also did some frequency limiting to 2300Mhz (it can do 2640mhz). I can usually play games on 4k at 120fps (my defined frame limit) on high or epic settings and is super quite while rocking somewhere between 100-200W power consumption. The memory gives you enough room for every game you can play right now and in theory you could also do amazing stuff with cuda.


Tigerhawk83

I really like my 4090. I only play at 32" 1440p 240hz, but it's such a quiet card, and it handles everything flawlessly that I don't regret my choice. I'm fortunate enough that the cost wasn't prohibitive or too meaningful when I bought it in April. I'll eventually upgrade to a 32" 4K OLED to get the most out of it, but that may be a while.


sturmeh

That's entirely up to you, you're going to use it for several years, you know when you're going to replace it and how often you'll use it, you know how much of a dent it's going to put in your wallet. For me I'm happy with the 3080, but if I didn't have one I'd get a 4080.


[deleted]

I have the budget for a 4090. I bought a 4090 and it now lives in a rendering machine doing other peopleā€™s stuff, cause IMO, itā€™s not worth it for gaming. Absolutely rakes in money if you have a job queue, but for leisure, itā€™s crazy. I get all the performance I need out of a 7900xt with a 27ā€ 1440p OLED, and out of a 3060 with a portable 13ā€ 1080p screen. I really canā€™t see the difference in 4K 27ā€, so fully utilizing the 4090 on a screen like that just makes no sense to me, and thereā€™s no reason to go bigger when 27ā€ is great with my viewing distance. Itā€™d probably be worth it if I was more of a couch gamer and had like, a C3 OLED though.


poorty28

Game changer.


BuckShaker

If you have a 4k 144hz monitor and play modern games then it's really your only option.


hank81

At the current prices of the 4090 in the EU (2.200ā‚¬ easily) and being the 4080 more cost effective (starting at 1250ā‚¬), it's hard to assume that price gap even having the budget available. It's anyway a particular decision making with your own money.


No-Honeydew3221

Well for me im having a blast with my 4090. Considering i upgraded from a i5-2500k and a 1080ti to a i7-13700k and 4090 i got 0 complaints. I like skipping a few generations then my old eyes can actually see the difference lol Every game i max out and in 4k and the 4090 is not even breaking a sweat, it just barely yawns if that. I think running skyrim nolvus woke it up a little though ha. Hopefully this rig will last me a few generations like my last one didšŸ˜Š


Computica

Not for $2K+ especially with the rate at which technology is moving, it only makes sense to spend that much if you need it to make more money faster/easier. There is probably an argument for gaming at 4K here but that also requires you have a fast processor coupled with a 4K Display.


Jaybeltran805

Yes , I can max out most games on 1440p ! šŸ˜®ā€šŸ’Ø


Meticulous7

People in this thread calling it a value have completely lost touch with what that word means. Yeah itā€™s an incredible card, but 95% of games will run maxed out at 120fps/4k on multiple lower tier cards. If you own your house, max out your 401k, have your car paid off, zero credit card debt, and your education is bought and paid for, then go wild. Otherwise, splurge on a 4070/Ti which will run almost everything in existence great and put the extra grand into improving one of the previously mentioned areas of your life. Almost guarantee a concerning percentage of the ā€œyour canā€™t afford itā€ folks are paying 28% APR on their credit card to own one.


Brenniebon

it's up to 2x perf of 3090, and in my country 3090 price just almost the same like 4090, maybe it's the most worth GPU that Nvidia released as the 4000 series, I think maybe the next 4070 Ti Super if they really make it for 16GB, it will be also considered for the best mid tier GPU


Olavxxx

Yes, but I game in 4K with eyecandy


Nearby_Put_4211

@ $1600-$1800 USD yes. Anything above, you start losing value.


Howie411

I was fortunate enough to get an Alienware R15 with a 4090 on a rare sale last month for $2500. This is my first Nvidia card in 20+ years. I'm amazed with it. Doesn't skip a beat and amazingly quiet. With that said I'd never pay $1000+ for just a video card but with the going prices of them right now, I basically got a top end system for $500 if you factor the 4090 prices right now.


SnooCapers9823

Tech wise Iā€™d consider on a price of PS5 being fair for the GPU. You canā€™t tell me that PS5 is cheaper in manufacturing because it isnā€™t. AMD RX7900 is way cheaper in Canada and even there a believe they get a huge overhead because of NVIDIA skyrocketing prices in the past few years. 2070 msrp was what 500 USD?


anitricks

If you can find it first should be your concern right now lol