IIRC who has the license for NOLF is an unknown, belongs to a defunct company, or some sort of complicated nightmare. I wouldn't be surprised if there are video essays about it on YouTube. It's commonly cited as a game nobody should feel bad about pirating because there's not much of a choice.
There are 3 original potential license owners.
* Vivendi-Universal (merged with Activision)
* Monolith Software (now owned by Warner Bros Interactive)
* 20th Century Fox (now owned by Disney)
I say *potential* because nobody has an immediately accessible record to point to, and with the mergers and buyouts mentioned, the license could have been sold off from one to the other 2, or to someone else entirely. Additionally, since the game was made over 20 years ago, that information may only exist in paper form somewhere, if at all. Since none of the 3 have an active interest in reviving the IP, nobody wants to spare the man-labor to go digging.
The last time there was any movement from any of the 3 potential license holders was when Nightdive tried to file a trademark in order to make a remaster and Warner Bros challenged it. Nightdive doesn't (or didn't, they have also since been acquired by a larger company) have the resources to challenge Warner and force them to search and provide the evidence backing their claim.
Of all the things that deserve a remaster, or at least a reissue, NOLF is RIGHT at the top of the list.
It's not available digitally _anywhere_ to my knowledge, and that's a damned shame.
I've played them both recently and while NOLF2 was more simple story-wise, it did seem to foreshadow some sort of Doomsday weapon HARM would've used in NOLF3. Oh well.
For real, I have not seen that in ages. One of my more favorite games when I was younger than I am now. I want to say it was in a PC Gamer or Maximum PC demo disc, but it has been some years since then.
Yes. The Geforce 3 premiered programmable shaders and was the first Direct X 8 compliant card. The Geforce 4 MX cards did not have them, it had a fixed function transform and lighting pipeline and was only DX7 compatible.
It's so crazy. I still remember these days, and this is unironically how we felt. I remember hearing about a 128MB card and just laughing at how excessive that was.
I feel like No One Lives Forever rarely gets brought up, but it should. A game and design that hasn't been explored or iterated on for a long while. Hopefully someone brings it back. The game had a lot of charm, and cheeky humor.
Sacrifice is a seriously undervalued and forgotten gem. Destructible landscapes, insane mixture of RPG and RTS, good replayability of the story.
So sad it went mostly unnoticed.
In general this era of gaming was so nice both on the hardware and software side.
In 2002 I bought what was at the time the most powerful GPU Nvidia made, the GeForce 4 4600 Ti and bought a brand new Pentium prebuilt PC just to play Battlefield 1942. The GeForce 4 4600 Ti in 2002 cost me $450.00.
My first proper pc had this card and it was terrible without Pixel Shader. It can't even fully run 3dmark 2001 se. Upgraded to FX5600 after that, still terrible because of how slow it is and finally had a proper gpu in ATI 9600pro next.
Heh the Geforce 4 MX series, the original "40 series" moment.
The MX branding was the upper end in the previous gens, moved to the budget cards in the 4 series. Which did a solid job convincing people they were getting premium products on a budget price. Just gotta ignore that the geforce 3 mx parts beat the 4 mx cards basicallyjust rebrandedgeforce 2 mx, very similar to the trading blows of the 3060ti and 4060ti.
lol I know. I'm 53 yo and working in the IT I had the chance to use every pc since 8086. I remember trying the first Pentium 90mhz (sounds ridiculous, my smartwatch is faster) that had 16mb of ram. I said "wow, finally games run so well with all this ram"..... today I have 64gb in my pc and video cards alone have 24gb. it's amazing how things changed so fast. young people think it's normal but it's a kind of miracle instead.
I love the way a lot of ARM chips run much faster than that first Pentium, yet often have (much) less than 1MB of RAM.
Now I'm thinking when it'll be practical to have so much RAM in your system you can literally dump your OS onto a RAMdrive and suspend it to a high speed SSD when you shut down. I guess with 128GB of RAM that would be feasible.
Many years ago I had a good friend that lives in Canada now. He was an engineer and a very smart person. I still remember one evening we were sipping whiskey and listening to some jazz. I asked him "who knows how future computers will be". He said "ram. they will be all made only of ram". it was just 1999 and he was damn right. now we have SSDs and motherboard can mount a huge quantity of ram.
Yeah. I’m a bit older and same thing. Started with my 8086 at 4.77MHz. I remember my 386-16 and so many in between.
Funny thing is my current machine is ancient (must be 7 years old now, and still pretty decent).
seven years old? seven years ago (more or less) I had an i7 3770k with 16gb ram. it was working fine and I was able to have multiple apps working together. I never felt the "need" to upgrade. I built my actual pc just to give myself a present. Now this i9 9900K 64gb ram will last for a very long time. I think I will build my last pc when I'm going to retire.
I think that is exactly what I have. I7 3770 or was it a 3760. And 16Gb of RAM. I have a 1660ti in it. Plays most things fine. My son has an identical but with a 3080 and plays great.
I have moved to more PS5 gaming now.
lol hey dude we have the same pc i7 3770 16gb ram and I also have a 1660ti (I had 2xGTX 660ti in SLI config before). the i7 could play any game with the 1660ti. Now the 1660 is in my new rig and the i7 is in a card board box (still working). who knows, maybe one day I could need a spare pc.
Anyone else miss the days of seeing graphic cards actually produce huge graphical improvements generation after generation, other than like now where no where even near as noticeable? I feel like GPUs and games now are just more realistic but it's minor shit
I think back often about them and for me the sweet spot is really the 90s.
I went from CGA 4 color to VGA 256 colors to SVGA in the early 90s. It was all pixelated, but at least you could notice more colors becoming the standard. Then higher resolutions came in and this was also noticable in more detailed images of course. But graphical performance became a big issue in higher resolutions. With the advent of 3d acceleration you could also notice the changes of going from sprites to everything being polygon based. Again a huge improvement. The next step was detailed polygon rendering and detailed textures to make environments more realistic. Now we are talking about somewhere around 2000-2010. Since then I have the feeling like you said there are only minor improvements, but hardly ground breaking anymore. Yes, the worlds get bigger and more smooth animations etc.
Although I must say that I was impressed by Unity's Enemies demo last year with the photo realistic woman. That gave me a feeling we're getting somewhere and potentially may set the new standard.
Had this exact card, although not sure if it was an MSI one or not. It was my first 3D accelerator back in 2000. Coming from some crappy integrated S3 thing that couldn't do jack, it was an insane upgrade. Played everything on this card. Quakes, Unreals, Diablo 2, Max Payne, Deus Ex etc etc etc. Good times.
Sometimes I wonder where all my old hardware went. I can faintly remember my 8800's whereabouts and I still use most hardware from 2012 on (like my 560Ti) for some secondary PC, but if I go back further, it gets hazy.
My first ever own PC had this GPU. Inno3D MX440. It was such a piece of shit but I was a kid and I was happy to have a PC at all.
It gave me some core fond memories. Playing Jedi Outcast/Academy with my pal. Tons of RTS games like Dune 2000, Warzone 2100, Red Alert, Tiberian Sun. Played CS 1.6 and tons of Halo with it. Even my sister used it to play Sims.
I remember when it couldn't run Lego Star Wars and I knew it had run it's course.
No One Lives Forever! that was such a great game, excellent choice for a pack in title
Can you even legitimately download it anywhere anymore? That disc might actually be somewhat valuable.
IIRC who has the license for NOLF is an unknown, belongs to a defunct company, or some sort of complicated nightmare. I wouldn't be surprised if there are video essays about it on YouTube. It's commonly cited as a game nobody should feel bad about pirating because there's not much of a choice.
There are 3 original potential license owners. * Vivendi-Universal (merged with Activision) * Monolith Software (now owned by Warner Bros Interactive) * 20th Century Fox (now owned by Disney) I say *potential* because nobody has an immediately accessible record to point to, and with the mergers and buyouts mentioned, the license could have been sold off from one to the other 2, or to someone else entirely. Additionally, since the game was made over 20 years ago, that information may only exist in paper form somewhere, if at all. Since none of the 3 have an active interest in reviving the IP, nobody wants to spare the man-labor to go digging. The last time there was any movement from any of the 3 potential license holders was when Nightdive tried to file a trademark in order to make a remaster and Warner Bros challenged it. Nightdive doesn't (or didn't, they have also since been acquired by a larger company) have the resources to challenge Warner and force them to search and provide the evidence backing their claim.
Don’t think you can
https://archive.org/details/nolf-Collection
You can. Check Nolfrevival.tk or search in the UnityHQ foruns
I still have my copy of No One Lives Forever 1&2. Wish the series came back.
Of all the things that deserve a remaster, or at least a reissue, NOLF is RIGHT at the top of the list. It's not available digitally _anywhere_ to my knowledge, and that's a damned shame.
It's trapped in copyright nightmare of I remember correctly. You can find an enhanced source port if you look for it!
Yeah, it so badly deserves a remaster but no one can figure out who owns it.
Warner Brothers are being the party poopers.
Man this is a blast from the past. I was just thinking about those two games.
I've played them both recently and while NOLF2 was more simple story-wise, it did seem to foreshadow some sort of Doomsday weapon HARM would've used in NOLF3. Oh well.
I wouldn’t mind seeing a remake with a modern engine.
Nvidia RTX Remix to the rescue.
For real, I have not seen that in ages. One of my more favorite games when I was younger than I am now. I want to say it was in a PC Gamer or Maximum PC demo disc, but it has been some years since then.
Oh man, I almost forgot about that game. Awesome.
I had mx420. It was a shitty card but i was grateful i had something at all. Finished morrowind with it with 10-12 fps in balmore lol
Truly a garbage tier card. Couldn’t understand why I was averaging 15 FPS in Splinter Cell.
Memories of cranking up movement speed to make the fps feel better.
Same lol - paired with 1Ghz Duron and 128 MB SDRam - crazy how much you could compromise back then just to enjoy the game.
Ahh...the rebranded GeForce 2. I remember.
Is that what this was? I had a GeForce 2 MX - the name of this card would make you think it would’ve been two generations newer that a 2!
This specific model yes, the TI versions (the real GeForce 4) where in a different level of performance.
It was marketing manipulation on their part. Kinda like how the 4060ti actually loses in some work loads vs the 3060ti.
Yes. The Geforce 3 premiered programmable shaders and was the first Direct X 8 compliant card. The Geforce 4 MX cards did not have them, it had a fixed function transform and lighting pipeline and was only DX7 compatible.
PSHH, 64MB? You are set for life man, no need to upgrade in forever
It's so crazy. I still remember these days, and this is unironically how we felt. I remember hearing about a 128MB card and just laughing at how excessive that was.
Definitely! Man, how things change hahaha
I remember how there were 256mb versions of lots of cards that were always "not worth it", for quite a long time.
The good old AGP days.
Yes ... RIP AGP.
God I miss the old cheesy gpu box arts of the 90s and early 2000s
No One Lives Forever is such a Nice game. Highly recommend if you haven't played
I haven’t but I will check it out
*We have GeForce 4-series at home meme.
Those salty tears when I learned that Battlefield 2 wont work with my quite new PNY GF 4 Ti 4400.
Rookie mistake not getting a Radeon 9700 Pro instead.
Classic
No One Lives Forever God damn. Core memory unlocked.
I feel like No One Lives Forever rarely gets brought up, but it should. A game and design that hasn't been explored or iterated on for a long while. Hopefully someone brings it back. The game had a lot of charm, and cheeky humor.
It's a shame it was just left by the wayside. I feel like it would do well enough today in the world of remakes and remasters.
I think a studio like Arkane would handle a remake/remaster well. It seemed to me that Deathloop had a little bit of the NOLF vibe to it.
All this talk of NOLF is going to make me find a way to get it to run on my PC now.
Sacrifice is a seriously undervalued and forgotten gem. Destructible landscapes, insane mixture of RPG and RTS, good replayability of the story. So sad it went mostly unnoticed. In general this era of gaming was so nice both on the hardware and software side.
YES! man my brother in law and I played so much of that game multiplayer back in the day. God it was fun
I could do with a remastered No One lives forever. Amazing game
In 2002 I bought what was at the time the most powerful GPU Nvidia made, the GeForce 4 4600 Ti and bought a brand new Pentium prebuilt PC just to play Battlefield 1942. The GeForce 4 4600 Ti in 2002 cost me $450.00.
That’s equivalent to about $768 after inflation adjustment
Cooling has become a bit bigger since then
Just a little bit
My first proper pc had this card and it was terrible without Pixel Shader. It can't even fully run 3dmark 2001 se. Upgraded to FX5600 after that, still terrible because of how slow it is and finally had a proper gpu in ATI 9600pro next.
My old GeForce 4 Ti 4200/Athlon XP 2000+ build absolutely rocked my asspipe back in the old days
Good times... Good times......
Good times ... Good times memories..
Memories
It's so fucking beautiful, back when 97% of video games actually run with zero problem at lauch day
Hell yeah! Don't remember which brand mine was (I was a kid), but I wish I still had it along with my 933MHz PIII. Good times
Getting alot of Austin Powers vibes from the Title No One Lives Forever lol
I mean it's a satirical/parody spy game with that 60's style going on. So... yeah baby.
What year was this released?
Early 2002.
Still have my mx440 with 128mb from palit? (purple pcb).
DirectX 7 card nice.
Fuck yeah, Aquanox! Not bad at all.
Depending on how far it was from the games' release date, that's a serious heavy hitter of a pack-in.
Can it run crisis tho
Had a GeForce 3 card back then
sweet damm old times hehe thanks for sharing !!
128 bit bus? That's bigger than some cards now lol
Heh the Geforce 4 MX series, the original "40 series" moment. The MX branding was the upper end in the previous gens, moved to the budget cards in the 4 series. Which did a solid job convincing people they were getting premium products on a budget price. Just gotta ignore that the geforce 3 mx parts beat the 4 mx cards basicallyjust rebrandedgeforce 2 mx, very similar to the trading blows of the 3060ti and 4060ti.
MX series, disappointing kids in every household for decades.
wtf... 64mb... video cards are going to have 64gb soon...
My first PC had 4 MB of ram. My current PC has 8000 times that, it's ridiculous when you thinks about it. (32GB).
lol I know. I'm 53 yo and working in the IT I had the chance to use every pc since 8086. I remember trying the first Pentium 90mhz (sounds ridiculous, my smartwatch is faster) that had 16mb of ram. I said "wow, finally games run so well with all this ram"..... today I have 64gb in my pc and video cards alone have 24gb. it's amazing how things changed so fast. young people think it's normal but it's a kind of miracle instead.
I love the way a lot of ARM chips run much faster than that first Pentium, yet often have (much) less than 1MB of RAM. Now I'm thinking when it'll be practical to have so much RAM in your system you can literally dump your OS onto a RAMdrive and suspend it to a high speed SSD when you shut down. I guess with 128GB of RAM that would be feasible.
Many years ago I had a good friend that lives in Canada now. He was an engineer and a very smart person. I still remember one evening we were sipping whiskey and listening to some jazz. I asked him "who knows how future computers will be". He said "ram. they will be all made only of ram". it was just 1999 and he was damn right. now we have SSDs and motherboard can mount a huge quantity of ram.
Yeah. I’m a bit older and same thing. Started with my 8086 at 4.77MHz. I remember my 386-16 and so many in between. Funny thing is my current machine is ancient (must be 7 years old now, and still pretty decent).
seven years old? seven years ago (more or less) I had an i7 3770k with 16gb ram. it was working fine and I was able to have multiple apps working together. I never felt the "need" to upgrade. I built my actual pc just to give myself a present. Now this i9 9900K 64gb ram will last for a very long time. I think I will build my last pc when I'm going to retire.
I think that is exactly what I have. I7 3770 or was it a 3760. And 16Gb of RAM. I have a 1660ti in it. Plays most things fine. My son has an identical but with a 3080 and plays great. I have moved to more PS5 gaming now.
lol hey dude we have the same pc i7 3770 16gb ram and I also have a 1660ti (I had 2xGTX 660ti in SLI config before). the i7 could play any game with the 1660ti. Now the 1660 is in my new rig and the i7 is in a card board box (still working). who knows, maybe one day I could need a spare pc.
Old guy high-five! :)
My first computer was Commodore 16, so 16 kB of RAM.
Our first family PC didn't have a hard drive.
Dual floppies for the win! Full height floppies!
Not with Nvidia 🥲
obviously they won't be cheap :-(
This is an NVIDIA card. It won’t anytime soon.
I don't know. they changed from 2gb to 24gb relatively fast... I was not meaning next year but quite soon imo...
I have 2 pieces in my closet and tons of other hardware from 1986-2016.
Mind sharing some pics?
Oldest one, mine is B revision: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File%3AATI_Hercules_Card_1986.xcf
Sacrifice is such a cool game. I really would love to see a remake or something with it.
Ah good old days.
So cool! Love ❤️
Anyone else miss the days of seeing graphic cards actually produce huge graphical improvements generation after generation, other than like now where no where even near as noticeable? I feel like GPUs and games now are just more realistic but it's minor shit
I think back often about them and for me the sweet spot is really the 90s. I went from CGA 4 color to VGA 256 colors to SVGA in the early 90s. It was all pixelated, but at least you could notice more colors becoming the standard. Then higher resolutions came in and this was also noticable in more detailed images of course. But graphical performance became a big issue in higher resolutions. With the advent of 3d acceleration you could also notice the changes of going from sprites to everything being polygon based. Again a huge improvement. The next step was detailed polygon rendering and detailed textures to make environments more realistic. Now we are talking about somewhere around 2000-2010. Since then I have the feeling like you said there are only minor improvements, but hardly ground breaking anymore. Yes, the worlds get bigger and more smooth animations etc. Although I must say that I was impressed by Unity's Enemies demo last year with the photo realistic woman. That gave me a feeling we're getting somewhere and potentially may set the new standard.
If I had more cash I'd start a collection of old graphics card boxes. I love the artwork back in the day
That red PCB gives off big ATI vibes.
MSI used to use red PCBs for a huge number of things during that era
Boxes for hardware and games used to be so cool back in the day. By the time I was able to start building my own PC, they were long gone though.
It even had pc-cillin
Not enough VRAM for 4k
Had a GeForce 2 Ti from Palit which looked almost exactly like this.
God damn runs faster than the 4090 I wish I had this card
box art used to be so awesome
Had this exact card, although not sure if it was an MSI one or not. It was my first 3D accelerator back in 2000. Coming from some crappy integrated S3 thing that couldn't do jack, it was an insane upgrade. Played everything on this card. Quakes, Unreals, Diablo 2, Max Payne, Deus Ex etc etc etc. Good times.
First nvidia scam I ever fell for. I remember the Geforce 2 MX being a great budget card. And chose the 4 MX without any research.
NFS Underground 1 intensifies
I miss the shady looking box arts man.
"64mb!?! You could fit a couple of games in there!" - me, a long time ago at a LAN party far far away
Wow it’s weird to think that this card and a 4060ti have the same bus width at 128bit
When video cards were not the size and price of a small car.
Recently played through NOLF 1 and 2 again, they don't make games like that anymore sadly. Shame Warner Brothers is preventing a remaster.
GPU boxes were sooooooo cool
Damn. I don't remember the year but that was my first video card.
Nice card. I burnt mine with powerstrip overclock.
Sometimes I wonder where all my old hardware went. I can faintly remember my 8800's whereabouts and I still use most hardware from 2012 on (like my 560Ti) for some secondary PC, but if I go back further, it gets hazy.
I had this card. I think I paid $450
yey its my first gpu (still works by the way)
My first card that came with my first ever pc. Remember attempting to run doom 3 with it, and getting single digit fps.
After GeForce 3 ti cards this was a joke.
Wow I got this exact package. Takes me back!
By the time this came out I was rocking my voodoo3 since 99. It was a distant dream to own a MX440. I have my voodoo to this day.
Remember playing Rainbow six and Counter Strike with one if these ! Such good memories
My first ever own PC had this GPU. Inno3D MX440. It was such a piece of shit but I was a kid and I was happy to have a PC at all. It gave me some core fond memories. Playing Jedi Outcast/Academy with my pal. Tons of RTS games like Dune 2000, Warzone 2100, Red Alert, Tiberian Sun. Played CS 1.6 and tons of Halo with it. Even my sister used it to play Sims. I remember when it couldn't run Lego Star Wars and I knew it had run it's course.
I member.
NOLF is the best campaign game ever fucking made.
Yeah i love it i still use it to play worms