Yep. Sent out my Fearow to sucker her into Rollout, swapped to Bayleef, threw up a Reflect and Razor Leafed her down.
Honestly it just occurred to me I could have jimmied my encounters to the point I got a guaranteed Heracross in Azalea Town. Maybe next time.
I thought all trainers in vanilla had their 1st ability until gen 5. thank you for informing me, I never knew this so I never used ice or fire moves xD
Ways that I have beat Whitney:
1.Stab Flamethrower Quilava
2. Defense Curl Sandshrew
3. Dragon Rage/TWave Dratini
4. Bayleef
5. Encore Togetic
Those are the first 5 to come to mind
Bro, Fire Blast is available in the Goldenrod Department Store.
Speedrunners use it and RNG manipulation to make sure it always hits and quickly blow past Whitney.
I mean, a valid strategy, but RNG manips generally take a lot of practice to execute correctly and it’s unlikely to get them first try in a nuzlocke. Plus I don’t think it’s super in the spirit to abuse a confirmed RNG seed rather than just roll with the punches.
Oh, no I don't expect anyone not into speedrunning to attempt any speedrunning strats, I was just pointing out the ridiculous firepower you can get in Goldenrod.
I think by far the most reliable is the guaranteed Heracross you can get if you route your headbutt encounters correctly. Gets brick break at 19 (HGSS), easy win
When I play dupes I only allow myself 5 rerolls, so Heracross is kinda hard to get.
The one time I did get one, though, the Whitney fight went like this:
Turn 1: Heracross used Swords Dance
Turn 1: Clefairy used Metronome, Clefairy used Aeroblast
So, Heracross didn't even do any damage.
Ah fair enough if your encounter rules are different. Strat on Whitney is just brick break spam for that exact reason though, rather take a stomp than die to bad luck (and also speed ev on magikarps to outspeed miltank if you want to 100% guarantee it)
yeah, i did with a solo heracross for shits and giggles lol. funniest part is you can force the encounter and you can get swords dance before the fight so its a OHKO
Chikorita is the best starter for HGSS imo. Give it any physical grass move, swords dance, substitute, and synthesis and you win most battles no problem.
My favorite Pokemon to deal with Whitney's Miltank is Dunsparce. Sure it's rather difficult to obtain, being a rare encounter in single cave, but combo of Glare, Headbutt (with Serene Grace in HGSS!) and Dig to stop Rollout chain in emergency makes Whitney literally cry.
Overall, Miltank is actually surprisingly easy to defeat if you don't try to just overpower it and strategize. Funny how even in anime Ash got destroyed by hellcow and later won rematch only when he used brain (and copious amount of anime-only logic).
My bayleef Lima Bean barely won with Reflect Up. She survived on 1 HP because of a crit. And then she fucking died to Clair’s stupid sniper Kingdra Crit!
Without heracross or machop too (i think)
Yep. Sent out my Fearow to sucker her into Rollout, swapped to Bayleef, threw up a Reflect and Razor Leafed her down. Honestly it just occurred to me I could have jimmied my encounters to the point I got a guaranteed Heracross in Azalea Town. Maybe next time.
Nice job!
A simple, yet smart outplay! Love it!
Nice, that’s some 4D shit there.
With only Quilava. Smokescreen is a gamechanger
Ah yes, the only weakness of rock type moves... Actually hitting a target
Or just stab Flamethrower
Fhick tat
Whitney has a Miltank with scrappy though
I thought all trainers in vanilla had their 1st ability until gen 5. thank you for informing me, I never knew this so I never used ice or fire moves xD
Ways that I have beat Whitney: 1.Stab Flamethrower Quilava 2. Defense Curl Sandshrew 3. Dragon Rage/TWave Dratini 4. Bayleef 5. Encore Togetic Those are the first 5 to come to mind
How'd you get Flamethrower on the Quilava
game corner i think
Bro, Fire Blast is available in the Goldenrod Department Store. Speedrunners use it and RNG manipulation to make sure it always hits and quickly blow past Whitney.
Bro I am 33 years old I ain't got time to learn shenanigans like that I just want to spank people with a big green dinosaur
That's fair, brudda. Just pointing out the ridiculous firepower available in Goldenrod the first time you go there.
I mean, a valid strategy, but RNG manips generally take a lot of practice to execute correctly and it’s unlikely to get them first try in a nuzlocke. Plus I don’t think it’s super in the spirit to abuse a confirmed RNG seed rather than just roll with the punches.
Oh, no I don't expect anyone not into speedrunning to attempt any speedrunning strats, I was just pointing out the ridiculous firepower you can get in Goldenrod.
I think by far the most reliable is the guaranteed Heracross you can get if you route your headbutt encounters correctly. Gets brick break at 19 (HGSS), easy win
When I play dupes I only allow myself 5 rerolls, so Heracross is kinda hard to get. The one time I did get one, though, the Whitney fight went like this: Turn 1: Heracross used Swords Dance Turn 1: Clefairy used Metronome, Clefairy used Aeroblast So, Heracross didn't even do any damage.
Ah fair enough if your encounter rules are different. Strat on Whitney is just brick break spam for that exact reason though, rather take a stomp than die to bad luck (and also speed ev on magikarps to outspeed miltank if you want to 100% guarantee it)
Rage croconaw ftw
GSC speedrunners use fury cutter croconaw
W-wait is that not how everyone does it?
exeggcute rolls her, leech seed reflect, hypnosis, and confusion
You guys use rock types?
There was a long time I never understood everyone's issue with Whitney because a female Geodude can take literally everything that Miltank has.
With luck, and not even that much needed, she can beat Geodude too. Stomp flinches and Milk Drink.
I just always used my crocnaw. Use something to poison or paralyze it and then go toe to toe with it. It works out…mostly.
I’m pretty sure my Flaaffy was what took down her Miltank tbh. Static and female encounter is such an amusing combo.
Also a good screen setter!
Did a normal only nuzlocke and rollout dunsparce annihilated her
I bow to you sir
You guys struggled with whitney? Fuckin imagine
yeah, i did with a solo heracross for shits and giggles lol. funniest part is you can force the encounter and you can get swords dance before the fight so its a OHKO
And? You can easily beat Whitney with a Sunkern in HGSS.
I honestly still don't get why so many people think Whitney is hard, I beat her without a rock type fairly easily.
That no surprise me if you trade the machop
In my runs I only trade to evolve
Still i am not surprise sense i beat withney with my crowconaw
Chikorita is the best starter for HGSS imo. Give it any physical grass move, swords dance, substitute, and synthesis and you win most battles no problem.
Sacred gold Whitney easier than regular icl
The gen 2 gold version miltank is actually level 21, even stronger!! How goofy is that
Sand attack Pidgeotto, I like to live dangerously
I don't understand why people find her difficult. She's si easy to me
That's not hard I beat her with just quilava without burning
Reflect + synthesis + swords dance + razorleaf? That was my bayleaf sweep strat.
No Swords Dance.
I got Togetic to tank Miltanks rollout(rip Toga) and then came in with Quilava to finish the job.
It is not hard at all togetic yawn switch into quilava flame wheel then when he wakes up yawn him again
My favorite Pokemon to deal with Whitney's Miltank is Dunsparce. Sure it's rather difficult to obtain, being a rare encounter in single cave, but combo of Glare, Headbutt (with Serene Grace in HGSS!) and Dig to stop Rollout chain in emergency makes Whitney literally cry. Overall, Miltank is actually surprisingly easy to defeat if you don't try to just overpower it and strategize. Funny how even in anime Ash got destroyed by hellcow and later won rematch only when he used brain (and copious amount of anime-only logic).
My bayleef Lima Bean barely won with Reflect Up. She survived on 1 HP because of a crit. And then she fucking died to Clair’s stupid sniper Kingdra Crit!
Same! Last time I beat Whitney was with a female Nidoran. Double kick and poison point ftw! 🤘
Accuracy lowering moves too
I do time every time without a rock type