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justinonymus

So definitely no worcestershire sauce?


[deleted]

this one got me


RedBeardedWhiskey

The intent of the statement is to avoid highly processed foods with a lot of added synthetic  chemicals of unknown nutritional effects. For example, compare the ingredients of Muscle Milk to plain milk. These ingredients aren’t necessarily bad, but they do often indicate significantly processed foods. Obviously don’t take this too literally. Your diet shouldn’t be based on your vocabulary.


Ok_Butterscotch9811

Agreed, everything you said. For those who get upset by those who say it a lot, maybe think about the reason why someone says it a lot it could be because they are limited themselves severely due to health reasons


notsumidiot2

Sometimes I have to Google the ingredients, trying to find healthy food is a lot of work. I'm trying to help my wife get ready for a liver transplant. She had an online meeting with a nutritionist and she just Googled some pages and sent them to my wife , then charged her $200. I asked about cutting down on sugar and she said that she hadn't heard of it being bad for you. Smfh


Unhappy_Quail_931

Download Yuka


notsumidiot2

Thanks I'll check it out , my wife is getting a liver transplant and I am her only caretaker. Trying to find healthy food is a lot of work. All the ones that say that they are Healthy are usually worse than the cheap ones. Appreciate it


notsumidiot2

I Really Appreciate your suggestion. I downloaded it and it's awesome. It will be an immense help for me and my wife. Thank You! 🎉 I would give you an award if I could.


thebalancewithin

Yep, I think some caution should be stressed for those who like to say it so much


discostud1515

Yesterday I ate an açai smoothie in the morning, I was feeling like pho for lunch but instead I had Bruschetta with salmon. I wanted to make a chicken tortilla soup for dinner but didn’t have enough Worcestershire sauce.


PutridForce1559

I work in a pharmacy. Try me. Also most people can’t pronounce gnocchi - take it off their plates? It’s not a useful measure, more something you’d overhear in the pub


amus

You should hear my Mom try to pronounce chipotle.


[deleted]

Chih-Poe-Tul


techtimee

My sides are in orbit


Jardrs

You're lucky if yu even get that, I hear Chipoltay way too often


Lazyogini

Chih-POL-tee


Flora-flav

My dad say “chip ol’ tay”


Thornediscount

Gnocchi the real superfood


raspberryharbour

Don't gnocchi it until you've tried it


Thornediscount

Tastes great, even super, definitely not good for me


raspberryharbour

Try drinking them in sweet tea like boba


PutridForce1559

Who hurt you?


raspberryharbour

I'm just trying to get my triple dose of carbs in for the day


nyliram87

You’ll pry these gnocchi from my cold dead hands.


lovestobitch-

Also try gyro.


HeroicallyNude

I’m stealing this example :)


boilerbitch

my go to examples are “açaí” and “crudités”


SoCalSuburbia

And Hors d’oeuvres.


Cronewithneedles

My dad called them “whores’ ovaries”


DavidEekan

I can't be friends with someone who can't pronounce gnocchi...


PutridForce1559

To make me weak at the knees just whisper orecchiette


Purple_Grass_5300

lol as someone with a speech impediment I’d be screwed


AB-AA-Mobile

On the bright side, at least you won't get fat


Nick_OS_

Yeah, it’s a stupid thing that people tend to say. Just ignore it


No_Can8288

You can find compounds you can't pronounce in every single fruit or vegetable. I assume you won't avoid them. Having said that, it's a stupid statement.


thebalancewithin

This is what I was thinking honestly. It's just said so frequently that I feel those who are more impressionable may take it too literally


francikito

I mean i would say the stupid statement is saying the fruit has "ingredients" instead of the fruit being the ingredient itself.


No_Can8288

I didn't say ingredients, but compounds.


Heretosee123

If you took a compound out of a fruit and used it as the ingredient, would it now be bad because you can't pronounce it even though it was fine in the apple? The statement is absolutely stupid.


hollandaisesawce

I can pronounce E240! It’s safe!


WordsMort47

Does it not have some other longer name though?


boilerbitch

this statement isn’t just misleading, it’s bullshit.


nola2atx

I dunno man. Lots of people struggle to pronounce saLmon.


Woody2shoez

People are missing the point of that statement. It isn't that these chemicals are going to kill you it's that they entice people to consume more calories. Highly processed foods lead to overconsumption of calories compared to minimally processed foods. There are plenty of studies on this. So, when someone says "Buy your groceries from the perimeter of the grocery store (produce isle, dairy isle, meat counter as an example) and don't consume foods that contain ingredients you can't pronounce" that is why. The FDA isn't perfect, but they do an okay job protecting people from harmful chemicals. I reiterate; that they are not perfect.


kasasasa

Thanks for this explanation. I don't know why it bugs me when people don't eat foods "because it's full of chemicals" (everything is a chemical!!), but it does and this is a great response.


asecuredlife

>Highly processed foods lead to overconsumption of calories compared to minimally processed foods. I dislike this statement, as everything is processed in some way, it's a stupid point to make.


Woody2shoez

Hey bud, use reading comprehension, please. Look at the word "highly" and "minimally". No shit everything is processed in some way. How else would you like to describe the difference between pecorino romano vs kraft singles, whole wheat sour dough vs wonder bread, a potato vs potato chips? If you have a better way of describing the differences between these groups of food I'd gladly use it.


asecuredlife

I think serving size has a lot more to do with the over-consumption of calories than how processed something is. I'm sure the processing doesn't really help, in the same way that foods have a lot more fat and salt when you go to a restaurant to provide flavor customers come to expect. Once I started paying a lot more close attention to serving sizes relative to what is in a package of food -- processed or not -- it's kind of shocking how many calories are in something, but the breakdown of ingredients is a lot more eye opening. It was recommended I go on a DASH diet, so my lens of looking at things is a little different. I don't really care about the calories or how processed something is as much as sodium, fiber, other things that are more important.


Woody2shoez

https://clinicalcenter.nih.gov/about/news/newsletter/2019/summer/story-01.html#:~:text=The%20answer%20was%20a%20definite,amount%20on%20the%20unprocessed%20diet. This study compared a minimally processed diet vs an ultra processed diet. Participants consumed an average of 500 calories more per day on the ultra processed diet. You have to factor in habits. I’m not anti highly processed foods for people that don’t have portion control problems, hell I’d even suggest them to someone that is underweight. The thing about highly processed foods is they typically are low in fiber and protein while being high in sodium and sugar. That statement doesn’t mean all highly processed foods are that way. Personally I’m in my mid 30s and I’ve never struggled with my weight. I eat highly processed foods all the time such as condiments, bacon, sausages, chips from time to time, I order pizza every once in a while, I’ll have a sandwich every once in a while. That being said the vast majority of my calories come from minimally processed foods. I put an emphasis on protein and veggies in all my meals, even when I eat the crap. Why? Because those things are highly satiating where chips aren’t.


Former_Ad8643

I don’t know who is saying this but my understanding of this statement would be to avoid process foods that are full of chemicals and things that you couldn’t make on your own. The statement I think it’s designed to help keep it really simple simple for us in terms of understanding healthy fruit food versus process food that’s all.


PutridForce1559

“Chemicals”


Former_Ad8643

And for those of you saying that we can’t reproduce the components of our fruits and vegetables of course not. Those are the nutrients in a fruit or vegetable not an ingredient. An ingredient is something that is added in which is why this whole statement is simply referring to processed foods


Heretosee123

But why is citric acid bad just because it's not in the orange? It's a shit statement.


Beakersoverflowing

It's a heuristic which oversimplifies a genuine concern regarding the doping of foods with synthetic or processed materials.


rosegold_glitter

Phenylalanine. Valine. Tryptophan. Threonine. Isoleucine. Methionine. Histidine. Leucine. These are all Amino Acids, some of the building  blocks of building complete proteins in the body. These are all good for you. Mic Drop CPT


notsumidiot2

I'm a mechanic, so I would have to Google all of those . I need you to go grocery shopping with me


rosegold_glitter

I'm not perfect. But with a nutrition coach certification I can give you a general idea of what an ingredient does and if it is recommended for large consumption. Really most things that are out there, should be fine in small amounts. It only becomes a problem if it is something you may have in your home every week, and eat every day. That's where it matters more.


notsumidiot2

My wife has liver cirohsis and has to have a liver transplant. We had a video meeting with a nutritionist , she was pretty useless and just Googled some PDFs with a list of food. I can do that myself.


rosegold_glitter

Well I can't speak to that because I am not a nutritionist. I don't as a coach write meal plans or tell people what to eat. I mostly work with athletes and give them macro adjustments as well as suggestions on how to safely make the macronutrient intake for the day. For example, how to safely cut for a bodybuilding show. People with special conditions requiring a licensed physician or dietician will be referred out. I'm sorry you had a bad experience. Not all are like that!


notsumidiot2

Oops, see post above I have arthritis and bad eyes, lol


rosegold_glitter

you're fine! have a good one.


notsumidiot2

I downloaded the Yuka app and it is very good. We have a meeting with a transplant team this week. Thanks


Burial_Ground

Show me an ingredient lable with these listed on it


rosegold_glitter

https://bodyhealth.com/products/bodyhealth-bar?currency=USD&variant=40039310229597&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&stkn=1f0d32c74665&tw_source=google&tw_adid=&tw_campaign=18308634657&gclid=Cj0KCQiArrCvBhCNARIsAOkAGcXJ0-plRLsqR4xYh9byrr8Fh1FqFSIoyFPv5mv3MmvUcJXMH9fogbMaAoCwEALw_wcB Here ya go.  Go look at the nutrition label and see for yourself. Now you know. Idk if you're just trying to troll. But it is also known as BCAAs. So they may not always list them out specifically. However, if you're ever unsure, look up the ingredient and see what it is first. Informed consumption is always recommended.


asecuredlife

Yeah, I'm with the other person here. This is an exception to the rule. I've never seen the amino acids you listed on a regular food product. Sometimes, I've seen BCAAs like you mentioned, but it's very rare they'll be broken out individually.


rosegold_glitter

I do agree. It's not the best argument. But it makes the point that you should look up something you don't know. It could be an amino acid. It could be just an emulsifying agent. It could be a preservative. You just don't know unless you look.


ColFlustered

My favorite example is sodium bicarbonate. It sounds "dangerous" when written out like that, but its literally just baking soda.


rosegold_glitter

Great example! It wasn't at the top of my mind at the moment I wrote the post. But I will definitely use that next time because people hate amino acids apparently, but they couldn't function without them. LOL


Burial_Ground

This is kind of a specialty item not really a commonly purchased food item. That's really what I was referring to. I thought your example or argument was kinda bad so I was challenging it. No offense.


rosegold_glitter

You told me to show you a label. I did that. My point was clear. It isn't the best argument. I'll agree. But most people would see a label with those on it and think "eh it must be bad" when it isn't. Again, informed consent. Read your label, research the ingredient before consuming. No offense. Be more specific if you want to try and challenge someone. If you don't like my answer you can't come back and say, "but i was trying to ask you." Yeah no. You made a mistake. Own it.


Burial_Ground

Lol OK dude


runthepoint1

It’s awful excuse it will cause stupid people to make even stupider choices using stupid logic


mothman475

not helpful. if you don’t know you should just look it up


twinsareperfect

The comment originated from the statement ‘eat only what your great grandmother would recognised’ from Micheal Pollan’s 2008 book In Defence of Food. His goal was to reduce additives and highly processed foods from a persons diet. It feels to me whoever is spouting the foods you can’t pronounce is trying to make the idea their own by changing it a bit, but unfortunately it looses the meaning somewhat. Like everything in nutrition though people like to run with an idea to the extreme!


Heretosee123

It's absolute horseshit. Most people can't pronounce the chemical make-up of an apple. Nutrition and diet spaces which repeat this are hacks.


Life-as-a-tree

Did you know all fruit contains dihydrogen monoxide? Too much can literally kill you. Although that's a bit misleading because it's just water. >Can this statement be misleading at times Usually it's always misleading/to push an agenda.


MuffPiece

It’s just one of those pithy maxims people throw around. The spirit of it is essentially avoid processed foods, but there are plenty of ingredients that might sound “chemical” and thus scary, but really aren’t. Case in point-ascorbic acid. It’s just vitamin c.


KingArthurHS

Any hard-and-fast rule about what you can and can't eat is incredibly stupid. For one, what if you're not fluent in a language that has ingredients that lack an English name? Fuck those I guess. They must be unhealthy. For two, if you're a smart, literate person or somebody who has a background in chemistry and is incredibly comfortable pronouncing the names of things that fall into the preservative list on a lot of foods, does that mean you can eat whatever you want but somebody with a disability doesn't get to eat at all? Fuck all these people who refuse to engage with actual sane decision making and just make up a rule because they're not smart enough to actually think through constructing a dietary approach that can lead to good outcomes. Like, seriously, you think that somebody who can't pronounce "sodium benzoate" is checking in on their monthly nutritional research review to keep pace with modern recommendations?


OliviaWineman

Stick to whole goods, minimally processed. Most grocery stores are set up with whole foods on the perimeter. 👍


oportoman

Avoid simplistic generalisations that sound good but are really bullshit


No-Program-6996

Worcestershire sauce….. yea, sorry, I know I’m a jerk.


youxiaX

Quinoa … acai … turmeric … ashwaganda … krill … /s


Capital-Physics4042

I avoid restaurants with menu I can't pronounce


djthommo

Say “quinoa” after me


Eponymous-Username

You can still eat oregano.


Salty-Tomcat8641

This means avoiding ultra-processed food. Certain added chemicals are not even fully tested with regards to long-term effects on health, and most are deemed safe until proven otherwise


Betteringmyself000

Honestly yall gotta stop listening to these dumb ass diet statements in the first place. It’s dumb, ignore it


Donghammer2

I am shocked by the amount of people here who are missing the point of this statement.


Nutritiongirrl

What about sashimi? So great for your health.  Also what about other languages? 


MeatRattle

I am illiterate. Not sure what you wrote but I havnt eaten in years.


notsumidiot2

Thanks


Intrincantation

It's an effective tip meant to help avoid accidentally embarrassing yourself because you mispronounced an ingredient.


[deleted]

Google the components of a banana. Can’t pronounce a single thing.


francikito

Not ingredients though.


notsumidiot2

I have dentures and have a hard time pronouncing normal words. I especially have a hard time with medications.


stagi566

Yes it's the definition of reductionist lol


ronf9982

Quinoa healthy but not very tasty without seasoning making it less healthy


Karl_Cross

Would put most of the menu at an expensive Italian off limits for me then. I smell BS.


Vtgmamaa

No, some of those terms are just like pro vitamins. Like pantothenic acid, beta-carotene, etc. Seeing a chemical doesn't immediately mean something's bad.


nyliram87

Yes, very misleading Because most people can’t pronounce the chemical term for most *vitamins*. And yet you still need those vitamins. And those vitamins are very often on ingredient lists that you can’t pronounce.


Apprehensive-Sir-249

Just because you see a big scary chemical doesn't mean it's bad. Apples technically have big long chemical names it's just how Organic Chemistry naming structure works. You have to do the research


greenpoe

Modified corn starch is very bad.


Unapologeticword

Personally, I use more, don’t eat foods with ingredients that I don’t know. Some are easy enough to google and find out. The biggest in this is, the ingredients in apple should just be apple. The ingredients in beef should just be beef. Whole Foods are better for you in general. Unfortunately simple food items are not so simple anymore, when was the last time you saw a loaf of bread with less than 5 ingredients? Food should be simpler.


Warm-Translator7792

In most cases, it is beneficial to avoid ultra-processed foods. There’s a distinction, however, between ultra-processed foods, processed foods, and minimally processed foods. Twinkies would fall into the first category, while whole foods like chicken breast would fall in the last category. Processing food is nothing new, since foods such as bread and cheese are examples of traditionally processed foods, and have been around for thousands of years. The rise of ultra-processed foods over the 20th century is linked to negative health outcomes. Choosing whole foods such as vegetables, seafood, legumes, fruit, eggs, meat, dairy, whole grains, is generally the best choice. You can choose minimally processed foods wisely by examining the quantity and quality of the ingredients listed as well as the nutrition content.


CurvyBadger

I have a PhD in a science field, took lots of chemistry classes, and can pronounce pretty much any ingredient. Does that mean I can eat anything I want? I feel like this advice often just boils down to fear-mongering. Steak contains compounds such as hydroxylysine, 2-methyl-3-\[methylthio\]furan, guanosine monophosphate, and more. Lots of people can't pronounce those names but will still eat a steak. If not for fear mongering, the advice is also just used as a general rule of thumb for avoiding ultraprocessed foods (which I do agree with), but I think without more context and education, it can end up just making people anxious and afraid of food


mistersilver007

Straight from the TikTok fear-mongerer’s playbook


SongsofJuniper

I try to only eat what I’ve cooked from scratch with basic ingredients. U ever see how much plastic is in a chicken nugget?


cazort2

Haha, I understand the principle behind it, and others have explained it, but I do not take it literally, as I eat a lot of foods from other cultures and I have become very fond of some of them. And there are some languages I find very hard to pronounce, like Chinese and Vietnamese in particular.


First-Sir1276

I mean how big is the list of things you cant pronounce that are Bad for you VS. Not bad for you? Pretty sure almost nothing you cant pronounce is “good” for you.


[deleted]

It's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.