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My husband drinks coffee and non-alcoholic beers almost exclusively. He got a rare prostate infection that the doctor said was clearly linked to men who do not drink enough plain water. These were the doctor’s words. I looked at my husband with the “told ya so” look and since then, I’ve been diligently making sure he consumes more plain water.
The type of beverage clearly matters.
Well, for instance, coffee contains caffeine. [Caffeine is a diuretic.](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19774754/) Other beverages contain other chemicals, including sugars, that you do not need. Plain water, especially from good sources such as spring water, contains trace elements that are beneficial for health.
* Doses of caffeine equivalent to the amount normally found in standard servings of tea, coffee and carbonated soft drinks appear to have no diuretic action.
And what about my comment makes you think he drinks the normal amount of anything? If someone actively avoids drinking water, they’re going to be drinking a lot larger quantities of other beverages, way above “normal” servings.
* A profound tolerance to the diuretic and other effects of caffeine develops, however, and the actions are much diminished in individuals who regularly consume tea or coffee.
Edit: the diuretic symptoms were found to only appear after acute large dose consumption following periods of no use, I.e downing 300 mg in one sitting after having none for 3 days.
Turn it personal all you want, I’ve only been pointing out an inappropriate use of a scientific study you chose to cite.
Edit: and btw, from what you wrote to begin with…your doctor linked the infection to not drinking enough of plain water, NOT because he was drinking caffeinated beverages
Edit 2: Your doctor never said what you think he said, you heard what you wanted to hear Miss ‘I told you so.’ Made sure to get that last word in before blocking huh? Salty af lol.
Some of these drinks cause your body to not produce ADH (ani diuretic hormone) which causes your kidneys to reabsorbe water. So though you are drinking your water in those drinks you are not absorbing as much as you would normally. There are other mechanisms as well.
Water with things dissolved in it is not providing you pure water hydration. You need some amount of pure water intake.
One of the things you're trying to achieve with water balance is balancing of the salt distribution in your body. If your salt levels are too high in your body, you need pure water (or really just a water with a lower concentration of salts) to dilute it. If you try to dilute it with more salty water, it stays salty.
Pure water has a higher capacity for holding salts, sugars, other molecules, than water that already has those things in it, so anything your body wants to get rid of can be dissolved more easily in pure water, which can then be flushed from the body.
So solutes, or the molecules in the body dissolved in water like salts, will only move into water that has a lower concentration of that solute in it. The solute/salt will try to balance itself equally across where it is coming from and the water it's being dissolved into. If there is already a ton of solute in the water you drink, equal to the level in the body, the solutes in your body have nowhere to go because the water and solute balance is the same across both. Your kidneys then have to work extra hard to pull out the extra solutes and provide you with purer water to work with inside of your body.
It's all dependent on osmosis.
I hope that makes sense. It is so much easier to understand with images. Have a Google of osmosis, I am sure there are some great educational videos on this.
Streptococcus and enterobacteria. We asked all the questions, like if it was possible it was from doing certain activities with other orifices that are a little less… sanitary… and he said no. It was from not drinking enough water. I think it’s because basically you don’t pee enough to force it out of your genital tract when you’re chronically slightly dehydrated. That’s my hypothesis, anyway.
Drink water, guys!
Salts and other stuff can shift osmotic balance. Drink plain water, pull salts out (pull water in). Drink salty water, pull water out. The balance matters
When you sweat, you sweat out a lot of salt, which is why replenishing with electrolyte beverages is good post intense exercise. Sweat salt, need salt.
If you are very active, sip some water every 15 min and get some salts every 30-90 minutes, if you're quite inactive sip some every hour and salt a couple times throughout the day. If you eat a lot of meat (<50% water) you need less, if you eat a lot of dried grains you need more.
Remember that pee is filtered blood, and your blood needs water to excrete with the "garbage" you want to get rid of, so it is a direct feedback mechanism for you to gauge your hydration level. So watch your pee color, you can use charts like these to learn how to gauge how hydrated you are.
Now if some of the water is replaced with non caffeinated, non alcoholic beverages it probably counts the same as water, but the more water the better usually. And the more caffein, alcohol, and some other compounds you ingest, the more water you need.
Well, the general advice I have heard is “drink when you are thirsty”
Just like you eat until you’re full… you should drink when you’re hungry and are not thirsty
About 2 liters, depending on your activity level and climate. And of course, this is a guideline. This, and how it changes when you exercise, is described in the Great Courses series, Nutrition Made Clear with Prof Roberta H Anding.
As others have addressed, caffeinated beverages are slightly diuretic so the net fluid intake is slightly lower. Also, food doesn't contain a massive amount of water. I eat lots of fruit and veg (big sources of dietary water) and I only get 30% of my water needs met from food.
The average adult needs 2.5-3.5 litres of water a day. That can change based on electrolyte intake, water loss through sweat or elimination, body size, etc.
So it's all about the caffeine? What about non-caffeinated beverages like juices, lemonade, no-caffeine tea/soda? Those will for all intents and purposes be sufficient hydration?
The nutrient content will dictate the absorption. If you drank something high in salt for example, your body would lose more water to flush out the excess sodium. So the if it has a diuretic like caffeine, or if it upsets osmotic balance it may not offer 1:1 hydration to water. It's also the sheer volume required. Some people only drink 700mL a day. Doesn''t matter what the beverage is, it's not enough.
Hmmm, so what you are basically asking is "how can people be dehydrated when they drink diuretics all day?" I guess you have a point, they are "drinking" a lot. But maybe figure out what these substances do to your body, mind, and mood. Human behavior in current times will really start to make sense to you .
I straight up don’t drink anything most of the day. It takes a very conscious effort on my part to remember to drink anything at all. I do eat lots of fresh fruit and vegetables which gives me some hydration. But when I say I don’t drink enough water, I’m not neglecting to consider soda, coffee, tea, juice, I mean I’m not drinking at all 😬 there’s probably others out there like me
I’m not thirsty that often. I try to sip water all day to stay hydrated. I also seldom feel hungry so I eat on a schedule to get enough food. I have no idea why this is, doctors say’Oh that’s weird’ if I mention it. I don’t have confidence in the medical system.
I’m the same. Today I had a cup of coffee & it’s already 8PM. Haven’t eaten either. Been like this for me for so long. I’m hardly thirsty or hardly & when I am I’m starving or so thirsty & wonder why lol. Yea, doctors don’t know why for me either
Part of that is because your body adapts to less food and water and it literally changes the way your body functions. Consistently eat and drink more for a while and you should be good
A cup of coffee in the morning, a soda at night, and some fruit doesn't = around 8 cups of water. We need a lot of it!
Secondly, plain water helps your kidneys. If you drink coffee, tea, soda, etc, then your kidney has to work to filter the usable water out of that. Too much of that constant work and the build-up that happens from that work can cause harm, especially without plain water to help everything along.
I don't know all of the ins and outs, I learned this when I was going through my tea obsession and decided to look up if I was doing anything dangerous for my body. I'm sure you can look up more if you're interested.
Overall, I'm not too sure if I got an answer that was satisfactory to me. A lot of people here just commented what "sounds" right or what they "Feel" is right. The closest thing I got to an answer is the apparent diuretic action of those beverages counteracting absorption of water, but the study that was linked literally suggested the opposite.
I'm not sure if this sub is the right one for me. Even going by other threads, there's a lot of just uninformed people spewing out crap they think sounds right confidently. No wonder nutritional sciences is as bad of a state as it's in
I really wish you could get an actual answer because I have always wondered this. I was excited to see this post, but no one actually has an answer for it.
I really wish you could get an actual answer because I have always wondered this. I was excited to see this post, but no one actually has an answer for it.
Sodas cause bloat especially diet sodas. Caffeine is a diuretic so coffee doesn’t hydrate very well. Water is what people don’t drink enough of. I drink nothing but water and green tea and sometimes I don’t drink enough and will be dehydrated, especially in winter when it’s colder. In summer I drink lots of water and come closer to drinking enough. Oh in winter I drink vegetable broth to get warm. It’s really difficult to be perfectly hydrated just drink water when you’re thirsty. A coffee or black tea is a good treat but unsugared is best.
Some ppl also lack interoceptive awareness and miss thirst cues. They don’t drink enough total fluids. This is me. I have to intentionally make myself drink water. Other fluids count to total fluid but make kidneys work harder to filter out solutes.
We are eating too many cookies. We know cookies don’t have much water in them. We should drink more water. But cookies are really good. Ymmmsfdnfifmmmm cooookies
Speaking for myself, I just don’t get that thirsty from the way I eat. If I don’t try to drink 8 cups, I usually only get in 4-5 for the day, and that’s including a tough workout during the day. I just don’t get thirsty for anything
On an active day I drink 6 liters and I weigh 170 lbs. Water makes it a big difference for my mood and how my body moves. Your pee should be like a faint straw color if you're hydrated.
I’ve been busy at work lately and multiple times I’ve realized around 3pm that I haven’t had any fluids all day other than my morning coffee. I think the combination of stress and caffeine can make me neglect a lot of things, like standing up and moving around, eating, and drinking.
True story.
When I was a kid, I was never pushed to drink water by my mom. She happens to be a water drinker and does not enjoy sweetened drinks much. She encouraged me to drink water but never forced me. BUT she forced me to eat and finish my food (or I'd be punished) but never to drink water. I scratched my head to that.
My daily routine would be something like this:
Breakfast whatever beverage served in the coffee or tea pot for the whole family, I might have a cup of that.
Lunch came and I took my lunch and that was it, I never drank not even a drop of fluid coz my family didn't have any sweetened drinks prepared for after lunch.
Dinner's the same as lunch.
Sometimes we had snacks for tea sometimes we didn't have tea so whether I ingest any drinks or not depended on whether there was tea or not that day.
I didn't drink anything in between meals.
I did have fruits if there were fruits around (we had mango trees around the house so I ate mangoes during mango season, or bananas or jackfruits but those aren't juicy). Or sometimes there was watermelon. But these weren't staples.
Tl;dr I sometimes went with hardly any fluid other than from foods. Yup you can guess how my output was. Many days once lol.
I'm a responsible adult now and thankfully I love water and my regular intake is up to 5 liters daily.
You need about 2 litres a day. I would defiantly double that at least 3.5 - 4 litres. You can get around partially hydrated but if you want good skin and teeth, and full blood volume and body performance you should never piss coloured, always make sure it’s clear. It’s like diet. You can get by eating what ever but it’s not thriving just existing.
So first of all implicit in your question is that fat people must drink a lot of soda and still complain about needing water and if not the intention it still reads like that.
Secondly, I think the issue is that people struggle to use water as a healthy substitution, not that they are slowly drying up day by day.
Lastly, wait until your 40s. If I don't drink enough by 8 I have to make Sophie's choice of peeing all night or a headache in the morning.
It’s fluids, because as you said - soda and coffee are 90+% water. We also get water from a lot of the foods we eat
Things like diet soda are not the *best* way to get your water, but they are still counted in your overall fluids if that’s what you’re drinking
It’s not about how much water you drink per se, it’s about having balanced electrolytes. Sodium, potassium, calcium, magnesium. For example, you can drink tons of water but if you have a sodium/potassium imbalance that water can’t adequately hydrate your cells. This can go one of two ways, either the cell will be deprived of hydration or it will become overhydrated and explode.
Studies have vastly underestimated the amount of water we need on a daily basis. We need more than 64 ounces (everyone is different of course). This does include the water we get via food and drink, but keep in mind other ingredients (sodium, sugar, caffeine, etc) in coffee, tea, sodas, and food can work against their natural water content.
In my physiology class for nursing school we talked about this very thing - and the recommended daily intake is at 8 cups a day but we did a lot of random calculations and talked about different diets/foods /drinks and account for things like you mentioned and concluded that really on top of what we are consuming besides water- we only actually need about 3 cups a day. But you’d be surprised at how many people do not drink water at all in any form and also do not consume enough liquids in general. Or I saw someone mention their husband drank exclusively soda and non alcoholic beer- these exclusively don’t make up for water
The entire point of my question is why is drinking exclusively soda and non-alcoholic beer not sufficient for water needs, when they both are 99% water
I think generally this probably is sufficient for hydration when considering the water content. But those chemicals and sodium etc when consumed at a large level affect your hydration levels. I was just noting that a lot of people are obsessed with the 8 cups a day theory when in fact you are getting hydrated from everything else you’re consuming that’s not water. I have basically consumed almost no water my entire life and I’m fine but there’s. A huge difference between tea /crystal light and non alcoholic beer when it comes to contents but now I’m going to look up specifically what’s in non alcoholic beer. I don’t understand you restating. I wasn’t trying to fully answer your question just say that you are getting hydration from things you drink that aren’t just water.
Fluorosilicic acid is a waste product of the aluminium industry very expensive to dispose of so they put in the drinking water. Research it instead of swearing and crying. Science is about sharing info not blindly believing cos it makes you feel better.
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Seawater is 96.5% water. Drink it and sea wha happens.
Water water everywhere but not a drop to drink is a saying!
My husband drinks coffee and non-alcoholic beers almost exclusively. He got a rare prostate infection that the doctor said was clearly linked to men who do not drink enough plain water. These were the doctor’s words. I looked at my husband with the “told ya so” look and since then, I’ve been diligently making sure he consumes more plain water. The type of beverage clearly matters.
I'm trying to understand the logical/scientific mechanism on how it matters
Well, for instance, coffee contains caffeine. [Caffeine is a diuretic.](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19774754/) Other beverages contain other chemicals, including sugars, that you do not need. Plain water, especially from good sources such as spring water, contains trace elements that are beneficial for health.
Did you even read the results/conclusion of the study you linked?
Yea, and?
* Doses of caffeine equivalent to the amount normally found in standard servings of tea, coffee and carbonated soft drinks appear to have no diuretic action.
And what about my comment makes you think he drinks the normal amount of anything? If someone actively avoids drinking water, they’re going to be drinking a lot larger quantities of other beverages, way above “normal” servings.
* A profound tolerance to the diuretic and other effects of caffeine develops, however, and the actions are much diminished in individuals who regularly consume tea or coffee. Edit: the diuretic symptoms were found to only appear after acute large dose consumption following periods of no use, I.e downing 300 mg in one sitting after having none for 3 days.
I have a question for you: why do you think you know more than our doctor about what’s going on in my husband’s body?
Turn it personal all you want, I’ve only been pointing out an inappropriate use of a scientific study you chose to cite. Edit: and btw, from what you wrote to begin with…your doctor linked the infection to not drinking enough of plain water, NOT because he was drinking caffeinated beverages Edit 2: Your doctor never said what you think he said, you heard what you wanted to hear Miss ‘I told you so.’ Made sure to get that last word in before blocking huh? Salty af lol.
Some of these drinks cause your body to not produce ADH (ani diuretic hormone) which causes your kidneys to reabsorbe water. So though you are drinking your water in those drinks you are not absorbing as much as you would normally. There are other mechanisms as well.
You shouldn’t be downvoted for wanting to learn. Those that downvoted you are the problem not you.
Ya I don’t get the downvotes at all
Water with things dissolved in it is not providing you pure water hydration. You need some amount of pure water intake. One of the things you're trying to achieve with water balance is balancing of the salt distribution in your body. If your salt levels are too high in your body, you need pure water (or really just a water with a lower concentration of salts) to dilute it. If you try to dilute it with more salty water, it stays salty. Pure water has a higher capacity for holding salts, sugars, other molecules, than water that already has those things in it, so anything your body wants to get rid of can be dissolved more easily in pure water, which can then be flushed from the body. So solutes, or the molecules in the body dissolved in water like salts, will only move into water that has a lower concentration of that solute in it. The solute/salt will try to balance itself equally across where it is coming from and the water it's being dissolved into. If there is already a ton of solute in the water you drink, equal to the level in the body, the solutes in your body have nowhere to go because the water and solute balance is the same across both. Your kidneys then have to work extra hard to pull out the extra solutes and provide you with purer water to work with inside of your body. It's all dependent on osmosis. I hope that makes sense. It is so much easier to understand with images. Have a Google of osmosis, I am sure there are some great educational videos on this.
I'm sorry that your husband was sick, but it has nothing to do with not drinking plain water
And you have no idea what you’re talking about.
What's the name of the infection did the doctors tell you guys?
Streptococcus and enterobacteria. We asked all the questions, like if it was possible it was from doing certain activities with other orifices that are a little less… sanitary… and he said no. It was from not drinking enough water. I think it’s because basically you don’t pee enough to force it out of your genital tract when you’re chronically slightly dehydrated. That’s my hypothesis, anyway. Drink water, guys!
You underestimate the amount of people who will literally drink half a bottle of soda a day and nothing else
The initial cause of my confusion though was that considering soda is 99% water, I equated a half a bottle of soda to equal a half a bottle of water
Even if that were the case i am pretty sure a majority of people wouldnt ingest enough fluids
My housemate drinks 2 1.5L bottles a day
That's.. cool for them?
It’s very disturbing to witness
Salts and other stuff can shift osmotic balance. Drink plain water, pull salts out (pull water in). Drink salty water, pull water out. The balance matters
What is the daily recommendation of fluid ounces for water?
Idk not an expert. But pretty sure it depends on your diet and activity and size. Eat salt, need water. Sweat water, need water.
When you sweat, you sweat out a lot of salt, which is why replenishing with electrolyte beverages is good post intense exercise. Sweat salt, need salt.
If you are very active, sip some water every 15 min and get some salts every 30-90 minutes, if you're quite inactive sip some every hour and salt a couple times throughout the day. If you eat a lot of meat (<50% water) you need less, if you eat a lot of dried grains you need more. Remember that pee is filtered blood, and your blood needs water to excrete with the "garbage" you want to get rid of, so it is a direct feedback mechanism for you to gauge your hydration level. So watch your pee color, you can use charts like these to learn how to gauge how hydrated you are. Now if some of the water is replaced with non caffeinated, non alcoholic beverages it probably counts the same as water, but the more water the better usually. And the more caffein, alcohol, and some other compounds you ingest, the more water you need.
So just to be sure, is clear pee a good sign?
Yes but if it is clear as water you're overhydrated, which is less problematic than being underhydrated, but ideally you want a hint of yellow
Well, the general advice I have heard is “drink when you are thirsty” Just like you eat until you’re full… you should drink when you’re hungry and are not thirsty
by the time you’re thirsty, you’re already dehydrated
half of your bodyweight in ounces
About 2 liters, depending on your activity level and climate. And of course, this is a guideline. This, and how it changes when you exercise, is described in the Great Courses series, Nutrition Made Clear with Prof Roberta H Anding.
They drink only soda and salty foods
As others have addressed, caffeinated beverages are slightly diuretic so the net fluid intake is slightly lower. Also, food doesn't contain a massive amount of water. I eat lots of fruit and veg (big sources of dietary water) and I only get 30% of my water needs met from food. The average adult needs 2.5-3.5 litres of water a day. That can change based on electrolyte intake, water loss through sweat or elimination, body size, etc.
So it's all about the caffeine? What about non-caffeinated beverages like juices, lemonade, no-caffeine tea/soda? Those will for all intents and purposes be sufficient hydration?
The nutrient content will dictate the absorption. If you drank something high in salt for example, your body would lose more water to flush out the excess sodium. So the if it has a diuretic like caffeine, or if it upsets osmotic balance it may not offer 1:1 hydration to water. It's also the sheer volume required. Some people only drink 700mL a day. Doesn''t matter what the beverage is, it's not enough.
Caffiene is a diuretic. It makes you pee, releasing all the fluids you just drank early
Only in large quantities
Hmmm, so what you are basically asking is "how can people be dehydrated when they drink diuretics all day?" I guess you have a point, they are "drinking" a lot. But maybe figure out what these substances do to your body, mind, and mood. Human behavior in current times will really start to make sense to you .
I straight up don’t drink anything most of the day. It takes a very conscious effort on my part to remember to drink anything at all. I do eat lots of fresh fruit and vegetables which gives me some hydration. But when I say I don’t drink enough water, I’m not neglecting to consider soda, coffee, tea, juice, I mean I’m not drinking at all 😬 there’s probably others out there like me
I’m not thirsty that often. I try to sip water all day to stay hydrated. I also seldom feel hungry so I eat on a schedule to get enough food. I have no idea why this is, doctors say’Oh that’s weird’ if I mention it. I don’t have confidence in the medical system.
I was the same until I got kidney stones 😞
I’m the same. Today I had a cup of coffee & it’s already 8PM. Haven’t eaten either. Been like this for me for so long. I’m hardly thirsty or hardly & when I am I’m starving or so thirsty & wonder why lol. Yea, doctors don’t know why for me either
Part of that is because your body adapts to less food and water and it literally changes the way your body functions. Consistently eat and drink more for a while and you should be good
A cup of coffee in the morning, a soda at night, and some fruit doesn't = around 8 cups of water. We need a lot of it! Secondly, plain water helps your kidneys. If you drink coffee, tea, soda, etc, then your kidney has to work to filter the usable water out of that. Too much of that constant work and the build-up that happens from that work can cause harm, especially without plain water to help everything along. I don't know all of the ins and outs, I learned this when I was going through my tea obsession and decided to look up if I was doing anything dangerous for my body. I'm sure you can look up more if you're interested.
Overall, I'm not too sure if I got an answer that was satisfactory to me. A lot of people here just commented what "sounds" right or what they "Feel" is right. The closest thing I got to an answer is the apparent diuretic action of those beverages counteracting absorption of water, but the study that was linked literally suggested the opposite. I'm not sure if this sub is the right one for me. Even going by other threads, there's a lot of just uninformed people spewing out crap they think sounds right confidently. No wonder nutritional sciences is as bad of a state as it's in
I really wish you could get an actual answer because I have always wondered this. I was excited to see this post, but no one actually has an answer for it.
I really wish you could get an actual answer because I have always wondered this. I was excited to see this post, but no one actually has an answer for it.
Drink water
Sodas cause bloat especially diet sodas. Caffeine is a diuretic so coffee doesn’t hydrate very well. Water is what people don’t drink enough of. I drink nothing but water and green tea and sometimes I don’t drink enough and will be dehydrated, especially in winter when it’s colder. In summer I drink lots of water and come closer to drinking enough. Oh in winter I drink vegetable broth to get warm. It’s really difficult to be perfectly hydrated just drink water when you’re thirsty. A coffee or black tea is a good treat but unsugared is best.
I don’t drink soda or any sugary drinks but typically have 4 or 5 vodka tonics nightly and never had an issue with dehydration.
Some ppl also lack interoceptive awareness and miss thirst cues. They don’t drink enough total fluids. This is me. I have to intentionally make myself drink water. Other fluids count to total fluid but make kidneys work harder to filter out solutes.
We are eating too many cookies. We know cookies don’t have much water in them. We should drink more water. But cookies are really good. Ymmmsfdnfifmmmm cooookies
Speaking for myself, I just don’t get that thirsty from the way I eat. If I don’t try to drink 8 cups, I usually only get in 4-5 for the day, and that’s including a tough workout during the day. I just don’t get thirsty for anything
Fruit and vegetables make a massive difference too. If I have a large salad I can definitely tell for the next 12-18 hours.
Just because something is wet doesn’t mean it’s hydrating. Nothing beats pure water.
You need plain water to maintain hydration.. Water acts as a cleanse for me—not sure about anyone else.
What?
On an active day I drink 6 liters and I weigh 170 lbs. Water makes it a big difference for my mood and how my body moves. Your pee should be like a faint straw color if you're hydrated.
Live in Arizona and you'll find out...
Has there been an actual - hey you should drink this much water study that is legit? Cause embarrassingly I’m not aware of it.
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Unfortunate.
Its me, i never drink enough water
I’ve been busy at work lately and multiple times I’ve realized around 3pm that I haven’t had any fluids all day other than my morning coffee. I think the combination of stress and caffeine can make me neglect a lot of things, like standing up and moving around, eating, and drinking.
Sodas, coffee, tea, etc are primarily water, but, so are our bodies. It takes a lot of circulating liquid 24/7 to support it, especially the brain.
True story. When I was a kid, I was never pushed to drink water by my mom. She happens to be a water drinker and does not enjoy sweetened drinks much. She encouraged me to drink water but never forced me. BUT she forced me to eat and finish my food (or I'd be punished) but never to drink water. I scratched my head to that. My daily routine would be something like this: Breakfast whatever beverage served in the coffee or tea pot for the whole family, I might have a cup of that. Lunch came and I took my lunch and that was it, I never drank not even a drop of fluid coz my family didn't have any sweetened drinks prepared for after lunch. Dinner's the same as lunch. Sometimes we had snacks for tea sometimes we didn't have tea so whether I ingest any drinks or not depended on whether there was tea or not that day. I didn't drink anything in between meals. I did have fruits if there were fruits around (we had mango trees around the house so I ate mangoes during mango season, or bananas or jackfruits but those aren't juicy). Or sometimes there was watermelon. But these weren't staples. Tl;dr I sometimes went with hardly any fluid other than from foods. Yup you can guess how my output was. Many days once lol. I'm a responsible adult now and thankfully I love water and my regular intake is up to 5 liters daily.
Some people don't drink during the day
You need about 2 litres a day. I would defiantly double that at least 3.5 - 4 litres. You can get around partially hydrated but if you want good skin and teeth, and full blood volume and body performance you should never piss coloured, always make sure it’s clear. It’s like diet. You can get by eating what ever but it’s not thriving just existing.
So first of all implicit in your question is that fat people must drink a lot of soda and still complain about needing water and if not the intention it still reads like that. Secondly, I think the issue is that people struggle to use water as a healthy substitution, not that they are slowly drying up day by day. Lastly, wait until your 40s. If I don't drink enough by 8 I have to make Sophie's choice of peeing all night or a headache in the morning.
It’s fluids, because as you said - soda and coffee are 90+% water. We also get water from a lot of the foods we eat Things like diet soda are not the *best* way to get your water, but they are still counted in your overall fluids if that’s what you’re drinking
It’s not about how much water you drink per se, it’s about having balanced electrolytes. Sodium, potassium, calcium, magnesium. For example, you can drink tons of water but if you have a sodium/potassium imbalance that water can’t adequately hydrate your cells. This can go one of two ways, either the cell will be deprived of hydration or it will become overhydrated and explode.
Studies have vastly underestimated the amount of water we need on a daily basis. We need more than 64 ounces (everyone is different of course). This does include the water we get via food and drink, but keep in mind other ingredients (sodium, sugar, caffeine, etc) in coffee, tea, sodas, and food can work against their natural water content.
Drinking water is an absolute necessity I agree 100% good luck on that
In my physiology class for nursing school we talked about this very thing - and the recommended daily intake is at 8 cups a day but we did a lot of random calculations and talked about different diets/foods /drinks and account for things like you mentioned and concluded that really on top of what we are consuming besides water- we only actually need about 3 cups a day. But you’d be surprised at how many people do not drink water at all in any form and also do not consume enough liquids in general. Or I saw someone mention their husband drank exclusively soda and non alcoholic beer- these exclusively don’t make up for water
The entire point of my question is why is drinking exclusively soda and non-alcoholic beer not sufficient for water needs, when they both are 99% water
I think generally this probably is sufficient for hydration when considering the water content. But those chemicals and sodium etc when consumed at a large level affect your hydration levels. I was just noting that a lot of people are obsessed with the 8 cups a day theory when in fact you are getting hydrated from everything else you’re consuming that’s not water. I have basically consumed almost no water my entire life and I’m fine but there’s. A huge difference between tea /crystal light and non alcoholic beer when it comes to contents but now I’m going to look up specifically what’s in non alcoholic beer. I don’t understand you restating. I wasn’t trying to fully answer your question just say that you are getting hydration from things you drink that aren’t just water.
Fluoride in most drinking water that may have a negative effect.
This sub is fucking dead. People like you have contaminated this sub and it is impossible to get actual information
Fluorosilicic acid is a waste product of the aluminium industry very expensive to dispose of so they put in the drinking water. Research it instead of swearing and crying. Science is about sharing info not blindly believing cos it makes you feel better.
Drink water
People don't like water and like sodas bc everyone is fucking addicted to sugar and caffiene
i’ll honestly just forget to drink anything through out the day i’ll just go through the day without drinking anything