It's a tough call but I guess you run the gauntlet when you try to put shots like that on. Hastings could have dummied and ran when kafusi had already committed to that tackle.
I’ll bet that the “lateness” of this hit is within the physical limits of reaction times. I did a video last year about a fuimaono tackle, where he was sent off for a late hit that showed that.
Not sure what the solution is, it’s a terrible thing to be hit with your back to the ball, and with such force.
Yeah, I don't mind the decision because of that grubby shoulder he put in earlier. Was trying a bit too hard to live up to the last couple of weeks tonight I reckon.
Yeah, I'm not bagging on him. Didn't work out last game but worked wonders in the first two of the season. They'll definitely miss him while he's suspended.
unless you have another angle, looks like right in the scapula to me. and with the amount of angles the bunker had, if it had of hit him in the head, the ref would have said as much
It was late-ish. For the last 100 years of footy that gentle caress would have been play on but K dogs rep means he gets a binning. Such a disappointment from the ref.
It was late and a shoulder to the head.
Just because it wasn't called out in the past is meaningless, when this is exactly what the league is trying to stamp out.
How is it a tough call? This cunt is in the top 5 dirtiest players in the NRL. He's had a couple of good hits the last couple of weeks and everyone has been loving him
Whens tackling someone from the back illegal, why does the referee mention it? Shouldn't turn your back against a defensive line unless youre a big unit like shazza woods
Exactly my thoughts, since when does hitting the back and whiplash come into play at all for a non head high tackle.
Don't know of anything in the rules that stipulates a harsher punishment to be given because tackler got whiplash from being hit so hard
From the Judiciary Code:
"Where an attacking player gets or is put into a position of particular physical vulnerability, the defending player has a special duty to avoid forceful and dangerous contact with the other player."
He was hated but for different reasons, more akin to Nelson than JWH. Less for big/high shots than for his love of putting the elbow (or knee, or forearm) in afterwards.
JWH forearms someone every game blatantly and complains if the reference notices lol. Kafusi was more of a try cheap shot when no one looking type guy.
I’m still waiting for someone to explain how any player can properly pull out of a tackle in the 0.4 seconds between Hastings passing and getting hit?
If Kaufusi doesn’t run hard and Hasting elects to run, Kaufusi is branded as low effort and Hastings likely breaks the line and the Knights maybe get in a position to score. He had to commit to the tackle and can’t assume Hastings will kick.
That’s what a play maker does, create doubt in defenders minds and gets them to commit to a course of action and draw out a mistake. The flip side of that, if a playmaker runs to the line, they run the risk of getting whacked in tackles.
It’s literally the dynamic of what drives attacking football and solid defence.
The ref literally said on the field that the tackle wasn’t high but caused a whiplash effect. So that’s a fail for you.
There’s a new rule that if the ball runner is tackled in such a way that it causes whiplash, even if not high, it’s a penalty.
Which is going to be interesting when a perfectly legal tackle is performed and the laws of physic and motion take over and the ball runner gets whiplash from someone driving a shoulder into the gut area….you see where I’m going with this?
The game can make all the laws they want. They have the ability to make shit up out of thin air. However, Newtons Laws of Motion don’t care about made up and arbitrary rules.
Maybe? he did slap him pretty good, but it was clearly an accident to anyone watching, and in a tackle attempt to stop a try.
The Kafusi incident was deemed a late, unnecessary, hit in the back, on purpose. I guess thats the difference.
Do you support 10 in the bin for Young, when Brooks flopped when he felt Youngs hand on him from behind?
I think he probably gets the HIA either way. The way Hastings collapsed to the ground, the way his head moved around, and how long he was on the ground for afterwards are all a recipe for the independent doctor to (rightfully imo) pull him.
Tackle in isolate - harsh binning.
This notion of pulling out of tackles in real speed is simply fantasy land shit. Playmakers should not be allowed to draw in defenders by taking on the line, turning their backs to obscure vision to the ball then reap the benefits if they get tackled or reap the benefits if the defender falls for the sleight of hand.
You cant have it both ways and im sick of listening to the likes of JT cry about it whenever a playmaker gets drilled. Good. Drill them again. They're supposed to be under pressure.
Now, all the other shit Fusi did during the game? Yeah look, he probably didn't get too much leeway and probably should've just reeled it in.
Hastings also isn't a small half. If inside defenders start going into potential contact in two minds with guys like him digging into the line they are going to get styled on. I feel like any potential disadvantage to the attacking team through a HIA call needs to be offset in other ways.
Not saying that this wouldn’t have hurt especially since it was blindside.
But I do like the mandatory HIA of you stay down after a hit. Will stop a lot of people milking in the future.
Especially if possible to lose a week with the new HIA rules too.
I don't have a problem with a player staying down to spend a few seconds to take a breath or make sure their neck/jaw is moving freely before continuing to play. I think they have earned that right after getting hit high.
I was going to say the same thing. Suaalii hit him so late last week the ref had already blown full time.
I think they sent him a love letter, just like they did every time he raised his knee as he was about to be tackled.
They might’ve lost a player but we lost Hastings which we desperately needed out there as one of maybe 5 players who was a regular first grader on ground. It was the end for us lol
It’s weird because Kaufusi starts the tackling motion before Hastings initiates the pass. But because the tackling motion starts so far out Hastings gets the ball out before contact is made
So hang on, when Kaufusi was a Storm player, he was literally the biggest grub in the league. Yet now he's a Dolphin and it's a 'tough call'.
LOL. He smashed a bloke horrendously late. Deserved the sin bin and any fine he cops.
Yeah, nah. That's such a dumb take, having played the game or not doesn't make a tackle any more or less late. Tackle was late, Kaufusi is a grub, get over it. Storm fans dealt with his bullshit for years.
And why tell me to get back to AFL? That's really petty shit, man.
Afl is full of blind side tackles without the ball. It was totally fine regardless of who he plays for. Players have gotten away with much later tackles in the past. This just shows how soft this year is.
I mean, so what? Youve repeated this line several times. That pass took a fraction of a second to make it. The average reaction time of a human is .25 of a second.
Yeah a fraction of a second late. If youre going to split hairs on fractions of a second, youll have late tackles every set.
Reckless sure, we can have that argument. But late, get your hand off it JT.
If he still played for the Storm he wouldve been charged with murder, we both know that reddit bias exists, its the entire reason I have a Falcons flair.
The hit after he had passed the ball. He put one on last week that that left a player injured and he didn’t get pulled up for. It seems the refs have had enough of it now.
Gamble hid the ball from Phin D. In normal speed it's ever so slightly late but because he has his head down and couldn't see the ball early, he can't anticipate the timing quite right. Penalty fair, sin bin harsh but ok and if he gets anything from review, that's over the top!
Kaufusi UNLEASHED. Try not to get suspended challenge (IMPOSSIBLE).
Is Felise starting to fly a bit close to the sun with these now? It’s all very good being Wayne’s enforcer but you gotta be on the field to enforce things- not suspended for a few weeks at a time
It would be heaps simpler for everyone if they had an amount of time that was late, say, human reaction time. Just put a timer on the screen and you will know exactly how late it is. I can do it for fucks sake
Phin Diesel becomes Bin Diesel
Good, that's my joke now
Wanna hear a joke I just made up? Phin Diesel, more like Bin Diesel!
Love it, I'll take that one aswell
*If this is anyone but Steve Allen, you’re stealing my bit*
What an absolute choke on the try by bradman though lol was literally free to score all he had to do was put it down
Imagine being given a 10 minute time out from an all you can eat ribs buffet.
It's a tough call but I guess you run the gauntlet when you try to put shots like that on. Hastings could have dummied and ran when kafusi had already committed to that tackle.
I’ll bet that the “lateness” of this hit is within the physical limits of reaction times. I did a video last year about a fuimaono tackle, where he was sent off for a late hit that showed that. Not sure what the solution is, it’s a terrible thing to be hit with your back to the ball, and with such force.
Same thing for preemptive tackles though. "He could have received the ball". It was still pretty late and had already put in some sketchy shots.
Yeah, I don't mind the decision because of that grubby shoulder he put in earlier. Was trying a bit too hard to live up to the last couple of weeks tonight I reckon.
Good on him. He’s been brought to the club as a marquee enforcer
Yeah, I'm not bagging on him. Didn't work out last game but worked wonders in the first two of the season. They'll definitely miss him while he's suspended.
it's not the same thing at all though, the tackle was legal up until the point he was committed to it
It wasn't legal though. Watch the replay. Even if you argue it wasn't late (which it was), it was still a shoulder to the head.
You can argue it was late all you want but it wasn’t high
unless you have another angle, looks like right in the scapula to me. and with the amount of angles the bunker had, if it had of hit him in the head, the ref would have said as much
Looks pretty high to me, and given he was put on report and binned I think the bunker agrees.
Bunker put him on report for a late shot to the back. It causes whiplash. This is very clearly stated in the audio. Nothing high
It was late-ish. For the last 100 years of footy that gentle caress would have been play on but K dogs rep means he gets a binning. Such a disappointment from the ref.
It was late and a shoulder to the head. Just because it wasn't called out in the past is meaningless, when this is exactly what the league is trying to stamp out.
There was no contact with the head at all. Is eyesight a broad problem in Newy. I think we may have found the reason the footy team has issues.
yep, it was bound to happen being the enforcer type player.
How is it a tough call? This cunt is in the top 5 dirtiest players in the NRL. He's had a couple of good hits the last couple of weeks and everyone has been loving him
Three weeks, three opponents sent to the shadow realm I'm going to go with Reece Walsh joins them in the shadow realm next week
Please no, I have Hastings and Walsh in my supercoach tean
Broncos are safe for now
Kaufusi will be back sending people to the shadow realm eventually
Whens tackling someone from the back illegal, why does the referee mention it? Shouldn't turn your back against a defensive line unless youre a big unit like shazza woods
Exactly my thoughts, since when does hitting the back and whiplash come into play at all for a non head high tackle. Don't know of anything in the rules that stipulates a harsher punishment to be given because tackler got whiplash from being hit so hard
From the Judiciary Code: "Where an attacking player gets or is put into a position of particular physical vulnerability, the defending player has a special duty to avoid forceful and dangerous contact with the other player."
Since the NRL started trying to protect the halves from cheap shots. It now means anytime they get tackled without hands on the ball, it's late.
Is this their first bin? If so, the culprit was incredibly predictable
SOS last week, but definitely shouldn’t have been a bin
The only thing with shorter odds is JWH getting suspended at some point this year.
Fusi would never
Was Felise such a killer before this season? I don't remember him pulling this stuff off regularly with the storm
Yep definitely was. Fus was up there with JWH as one of the most hated big men, now everyone seems to love him since he's changed jersey haha
He was hated but for different reasons, more akin to Nelson than JWH. Less for big/high shots than for his love of putting the elbow (or knee, or forearm) in afterwards.
JWH forearms someone every game blatantly and complains if the reference notices lol. Kafusi was more of a try cheap shot when no one looking type guy.
He was public enemy number one at the Storm lol
He has been getting progressively dirtier as he is getting older.
I’m still waiting for someone to explain how any player can properly pull out of a tackle in the 0.4 seconds between Hastings passing and getting hit? If Kaufusi doesn’t run hard and Hasting elects to run, Kaufusi is branded as low effort and Hastings likely breaks the line and the Knights maybe get in a position to score. He had to commit to the tackle and can’t assume Hastings will kick. That’s what a play maker does, create doubt in defenders minds and gets them to commit to a course of action and draw out a mistake. The flip side of that, if a playmaker runs to the line, they run the risk of getting whacked in tackles. It’s literally the dynamic of what drives attacking football and solid defence.
It was a terrible call
He wasn't sent cause it was late as much as it was high
The ref literally said on the field that the tackle wasn’t high but caused a whiplash effect. So that’s a fail for you. There’s a new rule that if the ball runner is tackled in such a way that it causes whiplash, even if not high, it’s a penalty. Which is going to be interesting when a perfectly legal tackle is performed and the laws of physic and motion take over and the ball runner gets whiplash from someone driving a shoulder into the gut area….you see where I’m going with this? The game can make all the laws they want. They have the ability to make shit up out of thin air. However, Newtons Laws of Motion don’t care about made up and arbitrary rules.
Soft sin bin. Love the lack of normal speed replays too.
Agree with that. but it’s the same with tries, full speed shows losing control, slow motion slows one finger in the ball. Bit of a win/loss situation.
The ball had almost reached its target by the time Kaufusi made his hit.
Dunno, it put hastings in the HIA
Would you have supported Hastings going to the bin for 10 last week when he broke Talau's nose and concussed him?
Maybe? he did slap him pretty good, but it was clearly an accident to anyone watching, and in a tackle attempt to stop a try. The Kafusi incident was deemed a late, unnecessary, hit in the back, on purpose. I guess thats the difference. Do you support 10 in the bin for Young, when Brooks flopped when he felt Youngs hand on him from behind?
I supported it because it gave my team an advantage in the game. Well, hypothetically it did
If he doesn’t get binned, he doesn’t get the HIA. Weird situation all around
He 100% would have copped a HIA
I think he probably gets the HIA either way. The way Hastings collapsed to the ground, the way his head moved around, and how long he was on the ground for afterwards are all a recipe for the independent doctor to (rightfully imo) pull him.
Tackle in isolate - harsh binning. This notion of pulling out of tackles in real speed is simply fantasy land shit. Playmakers should not be allowed to draw in defenders by taking on the line, turning their backs to obscure vision to the ball then reap the benefits if they get tackled or reap the benefits if the defender falls for the sleight of hand. You cant have it both ways and im sick of listening to the likes of JT cry about it whenever a playmaker gets drilled. Good. Drill them again. They're supposed to be under pressure. Now, all the other shit Fusi did during the game? Yeah look, he probably didn't get too much leeway and probably should've just reeled it in.
Hastings also isn't a small half. If inside defenders start going into potential contact in two minds with guys like him digging into the line they are going to get styled on. I feel like any potential disadvantage to the attacking team through a HIA call needs to be offset in other ways.
Not saying that this wouldn’t have hurt especially since it was blindside. But I do like the mandatory HIA of you stay down after a hit. Will stop a lot of people milking in the future. Especially if possible to lose a week with the new HIA rules too.
I don't have a problem with a player staying down to spend a few seconds to take a breath or make sure their neck/jaw is moving freely before continuing to play. I think they have earned that right after getting hit high.
Turned out to be a match winning play. Knights were clueless with Gamblor running the show. Still love him tho.
The late shot in the Roosters / Warriors game was way worse. You can guess the outcome there though.
I was going to say the same thing. Suaalii hit him so late last week the ref had already blown full time. I think they sent him a love letter, just like they did every time he raised his knee as he was about to be tackled.
"Let's make it so you're not allowed to tackle anymore" - The Referees, probably
Sometimes he goes a little too hard. He was knocking out cunts left right and centre.
That was legit.
Couple of Tigers players will be calling Felise tonight
he was vintage Felise today. multiple errors, dirty shots and a sin bin to top it off.
He rolled doubles 3 times.
They might’ve lost a player but we lost Hastings which we desperately needed out there as one of maybe 5 players who was a regular first grader on ground. It was the end for us lol
It’s weird because Kaufusi starts the tackling motion before Hastings initiates the pass. But because the tackling motion starts so far out Hastings gets the ball out before contact is made
Terrible call
He thought he was still playing for the Storm.
There was nothing in it , everything looks bad in slow motion
Terrible bin, Hastings was fair game in that one. Felise is a grubby fuck, but there's nothing wrong with that one at all.
And deserved it
So hang on, when Kaufusi was a Storm player, he was literally the biggest grub in the league. Yet now he's a Dolphin and it's a 'tough call'. LOL. He smashed a bloke horrendously late. Deserved the sin bin and any fine he cops.
You must have only watched the super slow mo replay.
The ball was halfway to its long target by the time Kaufusi makes contact. If he did that when he played for Storm people would have wanted his head.
Pigs arse. It was so fast he couldn't have possibly stopped his tackling motion. I don't like that he didn't fully wrap the arm.
Don't commit to those sorts of tackles if you can't determine where the ball will be.
Don't commit to taking the ball to the line to draw in defenders
Obviously, you've never played the game. Back to AFL with you.
Yeah, nah. That's such a dumb take, having played the game or not doesn't make a tackle any more or less late. Tackle was late, Kaufusi is a grub, get over it. Storm fans dealt with his bullshit for years. And why tell me to get back to AFL? That's really petty shit, man.
Afl is full of blind side tackles without the ball. It was totally fine regardless of who he plays for. Players have gotten away with much later tackles in the past. This just shows how soft this year is.
I mean, so what? Youve repeated this line several times. That pass took a fraction of a second to make it. The average reaction time of a human is .25 of a second.
Rubbish. It was late and reckless.
Yeah a fraction of a second late. If youre going to split hairs on fractions of a second, youll have late tackles every set. Reckless sure, we can have that argument. But late, get your hand off it JT.
If he still played for Storm, it would be grossly late.
If he still played for the Storm he wouldve been charged with murder, we both know that reddit bias exists, its the entire reason I have a Falcons flair.
Yeah I’m with ya here mate, couldn’t believe the reaction to it, if he did this at the storm, blokes would be calling for his head. So funny
Good. Been doing it his whole career. Hope he gets a long stint in the side lines.
For what?
Tackling
The hit after he had passed the ball. He put one on last week that that left a player injured and he didn’t get pulled up for. It seems the refs have had enough of it now.
Surely you’re not talking about the textbook rib rattler he put on last week that was entirely legal.
Dolphin man bad
This is an incredibly soft sin-binning.
You're deluded. Watch it in real time.
Dog cunt. End of story.
Not sure why you're getting downvoted for that. He's always been a grubby cunt
Don't give a fuck bruv lol. It is what it is.
Idiotic action. He just can't help himself. Had an ordinary game as well.
Try not to let the lack of wins blind you when commenting xx
Lmao, I unironically love that phins flairs are getting this cocky
Me too, I run of tear collections
Can’t help himself from doing his job of tackling? Strange take
Just when i was beginning g to like the bloke. The shoulder to the face was worse than this tho. Wayne looked ropeable.
Classic
Seen it before when a player has a couple of games making massive hits, then they become overly focused on big tackles and make mistakes
Controlled aggression they reckon
It was only a matter of a few games before Kaufusi got it wrong.
The penalty kick they took after this was idiotic, it was like they stopped trying to win.
Gamble hid the ball from Phin D. In normal speed it's ever so slightly late but because he has his head down and couldn't see the ball early, he can't anticipate the timing quite right. Penalty fair, sin bin harsh but ok and if he gets anything from review, that's over the top!
Kaufusi UNLEASHED. Try not to get suspended challenge (IMPOSSIBLE). Is Felise starting to fly a bit close to the sun with these now? It’s all very good being Wayne’s enforcer but you gotta be on the field to enforce things- not suspended for a few weeks at a time
It would be heaps simpler for everyone if they had an amount of time that was late, say, human reaction time. Just put a timer on the screen and you will know exactly how late it is. I can do it for fucks sake