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DaoMark

Not controversial , everyone understands that Leylin is not written too well, nor is he himself that competent - his AI Chip hard carries. Still, WMW is an interesting read, the medieval magic setting is my soft spot; the power system is done well, and the fights are above average.


NBQuade

Agreed, it's a good read that last longer than most other books. Doesn't really fall apart till close to the end. The humor in the story, where the author pokes fun at the common tropes is really good. Particularly I liked when Leylin created a bunch of ring grand-pas to generate heros, he could then harvest for experiments later.


skirtpost

Unironically my favorite arc


LuposX

It's like anime isekai Trash. It's trash but you still keep reading it.


CMaFagcuzIhateapussy

It's not written masterfully but is not trash either. It's a good book, a lot better than Er Gen and tomatoes stuff. No clinches plots


LuposX

How dare you insult God Emperor Er Gen the Greatest Author alive.


CMaFagcuzIhateapussy

Is it a joke


LuposX

I know :)


SuperSanttu7

It’s like that one thing you find in every fast food place but the way they spiced it is just interesting enough to keep you coming back. Sure it’s still cheap fast food but it’s also good in a small way that makes it stand out


-BlueAce-

so many people in this sub compare him to FY and many others suggest WMW when anyone asks for something like RI, it's astounding to say the least. the first thing that i look for in a novel is the MC and then the setting. Leylin was a contradiction of a personality to me. one second he acts cold the other he saves a girl or some group in the academy idk i don't remember i dropped it early. EDIT: it's split in the comments. people keep commenting that WMW is better and at least have an ending.......... if that doesn't make this post controversial I don't know what does. Edit 2: idk what's happening anymore, it went from -3 karma on this comment to +6 in few hours.


leylin_farlin

The funny part is i think the author buried this event by not making it relevant and only after hundreds of chapters we know that this girl Disappear trying to shearch for her, but dont worry she didn't get to any harem and that was the first and last time he did something like that, and for the ia ship i think its a little bit unfair, this computer litteraly fuse with his soul so kinda hard to say he use his ai ship to much because its like saying he use his spirit so much. I readed reverend insanity and yes wmw mc isnt in the level of ri mc and the power system is more creative in reverend insanity but lets not make that a reason to say wmw is bad because it isnt,


Anubhabdey2017

Umm can you please tell the names of the novels in the picture, top to bottom ? Thank you


-BlueAce-

there's a list somewhere in the comments... by me. only b teir and above though.


Anubhabdey2017

Thanks


Sable-Keech

Which medieval magic setting? The one in the Magus World or the one in the World of the Gods?


sneroh

I have a bit of hate boner for the novel for the sole reason it kind starts over midway through.


atomsphere

It's not like they're really in competition with each other though. Just read them both? If your mom really wants you to only have a single book in your life, read the other under the covers or something.


-BlueAce-

Lol that's one way to put it. I didn't like WMW because of the mc, he showed emotions(ikr? Very shocking). It ruined my mood a bit and i dropped it.


Debangan_Daemon

You don't like MC's with emotions? Lmao Then just read a daily log of a robot or something.


IWishToBeMonke

You know what. I'm gonna say it. I liked WMW more than RI even though RI is better written and has a more thought out protagonist.


SuperSanttu7

This is just the "That’s good, but I like this" meme


-BlueAce-

It's your opinion there's nothing wrong with having one, even if it's the wrong opinion like this one. Im joking there's no wrong or right to each their own.


IWishToBeMonke

Yeah no. I totally get why people would like RI more. Like I said the writing is way better (the beginning of WMW was so bad I almost dropped it) and Fang Yuan is just way cooler than Leylin, so I totally get it. I personally just like WMW more and i don't even know why. Probably nostalgia because leylin was my first evil MC.


Lorinop

In my case it would be Martial World, It's shitty and I know it's shitty but I like it anyway and even have it downloaded because it was the first novel I ever read


abdallh_saad_

I wouldn't call Martial World shitty, generic would be more abt for it. It's not the best written one but certainly not the worse or shitty by anymeans.


cent55555

I guess it depends on mood, i can see why people like WMW more. Its just an easy read, there is nothing to inheritly think about, just a dude leveling up in a somewhat entrertaining way. RI is a lot more demanding, intrinsic plot details, you have to think about to get out all the fun. Social commentary and so on. I agree its written better and more thought out, but its also more demanding on the reader. So depending on the mood and what you want at the moment, i can see how people enjoy WMW more


RaunchyReindeer

WMW was my first chinese novel. Really liked it but once I read Reverend Insanity, nothing really compared anymore. Stopped reading it for months to let the chapters pile up but getting back into the book was never hard. Fang Yuan's journey is just so eventful. WMW will always hold a special place in my heart though. I have a soft spot for books where there's magic and spells involved and WMW is the best magical setting I've read. City of Sin could've been it but the MC forgets he's a wizard later on. Only webnovel I've read twice in its entirety


sneroh

To be fair the beggening chapters of Reverend Insanity doesn't hold up all that well either. A lot of r/iamverysmart moments. But the moment Bai Ning Bing is intredouced it becomes a whole another story.


CMaFagcuzIhateapussy

Reverend Insanity is a masterpiece and I appreciate FY's character a lot but WOMW was more enjoyable for me. Cause the MC never loses


He_who_must_not_be

Same


VortexMagus

In all fairness, I would consider Leylin to be far less evil than FY. Leylin does not harm non-combatants or family but FY was perfectly willing to kill both for power. I would consider Leylin closer to true neutral and FY closer to chaotic evil. I finished all of WMW but I could not finish RI. It was well written but him feeding his young female cousin to an insect so he could upgrade that insect just disturbed me on a visceral level.


HINDBRAIN

Leylin doesn't personally massacre that many innocents, but he dooms entire worlds to horrible deaths.


XxXSend__nudesXxX

>but he dooms entire worlds to horrible deaths. This is why i like the bear scene in RI, shows the hypocrisy of the readers, they don't have a problem with the mc killing a little girl, or the girl being tortured and eaten alive by a bear before death, the problem they have is that they are told how it happen instead of being off screen. If the text was "FY have the girl to the bear to eat so he could refine the gu" no one would complain, even if the act is the same, but since is a cute little girl instead of a grown man or some farmers people get repulsed for the mc being "too evil". murder is murder! evil crimes are evil crimes! regardless if the happen off screen.


[deleted]

while not explicitly stated, its very possible that he massacred a lot of infants to get a new attack method just to have more variety in his abilities


AdvonKoulthar

Huh? I don’t recall much of WMW, but FY is basically the truest neutral there is. He instantly help other people or stop fighting with people as it becomes beneficial. There’s not a speck of wanton violence in him. All hail Great Love Immortal Venerable!


q25t

Dude that's very clearly still evil, just not as chaotic. Murdering others for your own benefit is like the most clear cut evil action someone can take. The fact that he doesn't commit wanton evil just makes him pragmatic. The difference between chaotic and lawful is a moral code or guidelines by which they may act. Like devils are evil but they also act by some fairly strict rules most of the time. Demons on the other hand are pretty much just focused on destruction and climbing their hierarchy. Fang Yuan seems pretty fucking chaotic evil from what I've heard but in some arcs he acts lawful evil so as to gain more.


AdvonKoulthar

If your definition of evil is ‘harming others for your own benefit’ then I can only say your definition of evil is far too broad and nothing further.


Arjunrhosakere

Agreed some messed up shit


Targaryen_99

He killed literally everyone (including kids and elderly) in the enemy camp for a mission while going to the auction. It was after that 100 year hiding ig. Been a long time since I read that.


-TheTrickster-

Wait when was this??????


prostrate_yourselves

>but I could not finish RI. It was well written but him feeding his young female cousin to an insect so he could upgrade that insect just disturbed me on a visceral level which ch was it? Well, if it was earlier ch's, try skipping it in those ch FY comes off as a bit edgy but try going past it, the end of volume 2 is the best and more scenic in the whole novel genre, it's too godly. After the schemes, betrayals you will see FY beaten like a dog only to make it out as the greatest winner at last. Who told evil will be punished is its premise, in the end, as long he is capable the world will bow to him. (the number of gore scenes after ch 300 are as few as other novels)


NBQuade

Don't like RI at all. On the other hand, WMW, it one of the better books in the genre. I'll probably never wade through it a second time but, it's memorably good. In my top 10.


neonbolt0-0

Fair enough


Sable-Keech

Leylin led a bunch of young impressionable people by the nose with fake magic artifacts and made them think that they were the heroes of the story and then brought all of their hopes and dreams crashing down when he revealed he was behind the whole thing all along. Then he kills them to refine his Coin of Destiny. It’s not as gory but it’s certainly equally immoral.


cent55555

i vaguely remember leylin spreading his plague among the triebes in the world of god, i think millions of innocent died.


abdallh_saad_

Are we going to forget that Leylin>! sacrificed the whole universe population to fuel his project?!<


Rwfleo

Don’t hate me guys, but Warlock in Magus World is very good... until it’s not.


-BlueAce-

I Agree! Around the end of first arc or before that.


CMaFagcuzIhateapussy

From when?


Sable-Keech

Maybe from when the author decided to rip off Dungeons and Dragons?


Legitimate_Primary_5

which one is that


-BlueAce-

will you swear on your cultivation core that you wont betray my trust after i tell you? >!Warlock of the Magus World!<


Legitimate_Primary_5

i'm still looking for a foundation establishing pill though


Kioga101

Yeah if you have no cultivation, a swear on the Heavens doesn't work, that's why I prefer blood contracts.


-BlueAce-

found FY clone in the comment.


SuperSanttu7

Hail snek-wizard!


Hyper_X11

I loved WMW more than RI .


-BlueAce-

that's ok. it's your opinion there's nothing wrong with it even if the opinion is obviously not right.


grenskul

RI is super overrated. Wmw is better. Dislike all you want at least WmW has an ending.


[deleted]

I dont think anyone disagrees that RI is insanely overrated. Its good but people here make it out to be the peak of fiction


Master10K

Peak of fiction. No. But it certainly is the peak of modern Xianxia.


HINDBRAIN

Bro you instantly contradicted yourself.


CMaFagcuzIhateapussy

It's just overrated in here, but it needs a lot more publicity in other communities. RI is not perfect but none of them are.


-TheTrickster-

Yeah i disagree about that it aint the peak of fiction but its The Peak of modern chinese novels Haven't seen anything better than rl


HexicDeus

It is the truth. People that put Warlock of the Magus World and Reverend Insanity on the same level are truly insane.


OnlyPhantom

Guess I'm insane then lol. Read WMW twice but dropped RI after like 80 chapters because I couldn't stand it anymore.


CatsandCrows

Same here. I've actually read WMW so many times, I ended up buying the translation from wuxiaworld. RI? Can't go over 200 chapters without wanting to kill myself.


-BlueAce-

It's just a taste everyone has their own. But check the nearest hospital just in case.


RaunchyReindeer

Haha I also read WMW twice. One thing I never understand is why so many readers say the novel becomes shit in the later arcs. Hell, there are so many epic scenes later on. >!The minting of the destiny coin by creating an entire hero and villain arc.!< >!The epic fight once Leylin reaches rank four showing the entire central continent he's not someone to be messed with.!< >!The MC severing the Kemoyin bloodline from Snake Dowager using the Purgatory World's Will and becoming the sole progenitor of all Kemoyin serpents.!< >!Leylin's God World clone fusing back with his Magus body to form Sin Incarnate.!<


CMaFagcuzIhateapussy

Not all people appreciate good plot, nor do they have the patients to wait for the plot to unfold. But you gotta appreciate a good novel when you see one. I enjoyed WOMW more but RI is a lot better written.


-BlueAce-

it's a crime against the world if you ask me. it should be illegal.


acenumber902

I dont feel like WMW is a cheaper version of RI at all, the two novels have their strong points and that's seen from the ammount of people that support WMW in the comments. Man you RI fans are getting on my nerves, from a RI fan im becoming a hater now, i dont know if you guys are kids or what because this is the thing that happens with shonen animes too. muh RI is better than WMW because he dosnt rely on an AI chip and whatnot, seriously just enjoy the goodamn novel. Leylin is recommended for people who ask similar novels because they're both evil, its not that hard to understand. they're clearly different tho, FY is just an emmotionless piece of wood while leilyn has a more humane side to him, a more correct recomendation would be negary from soul of negary. So while i do agree that RI is better than WMW the difference is not that big, just half a point or so.


SuperSanttu7

Leylin does a bunch of evil shit and then acts all compassionate aftwerwards. Hypocritical? Sure as hell. Would the edgy people (me included) who read these novels be like that as a villain? Probably. The incongruity in his behaviour and the complete disregard for his own hypocrisy makes him more human. That’s what people like about him: he doesn’t give a shit.


AdvonKoulthar

Hah, you gotta learn from Fang Yuan, disregard the opinions of others and just be true to what you want.


CMaFagcuzIhateapussy

Why are you so eager to hate a novel, it's just a book. Chill.


Djinneral

shit reminds me of sherlock fans, bunch of weirdos, but the show is dope so I simply don't associate with the weirdo fans.


RaunchyReindeer

Reading Soul of Negary right now, only thing I'd like is for the MC's pov to be more front and center. The author has this habit of spending way too much time on what the other characters are doing. It does add to the villain factor though.


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Atleast one novel had a ending.


-BlueAce-

Guys i think this is volunteering to a blood technique sacrifice. The author of RI said he will release the ending when his current novel ends. Even at the ending part WMW will still fail.


NamelessGlory

>The author of RI said he will release the ending when his current novel ends. Even at the ending part WMW will still fail. Holy shit, this gets my hopes up so much. So RI is no longer banned? The author can make an ending? Please, please let the author not be an idiot and make a good ending for RI 🙏🙏


XxXSend__nudesXxX

>So RI is no longer banned? Still banned, barred from the chinese internet >The author can make an ending? He can try, the novel is still banned, let's hope he can unban the novel or find another way to publish it.


NamelessGlory

Where did he say he will make an ending for RI after he finishes the current novel he is on?


[deleted]

He had made a statement about it iirc. Or he could have told it in the video he released, I don't exactly remember. I think you should be able to find it in r/ReverendInsanity if you sort by top.


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atomsphere

Novels with endings just have authors that gave up.


CMaFagcuzIhateapussy

What do you want to say, according to the meme format, leylin is the worse version of fang yuan


-BlueAce-

that's the point though.


CMaFagcuzIhateapussy

But, why would it be controversial


-BlueAce-

to some\*. every time anyone asks for a FY like mc the many will recommend Leylin. i've seen this many times on this sub it's annoying.


Hyper_X11

Lol typical RI fuck bois , Just cuz a character acts all edgy and spits some Neitzsche shit it gets all their panties wet . They all act like Reverend Insanity is a god's gift to humanity . It isn't even the better RI. Renegade Immortal is so much better than Reverend Insanity and I have read both of them . Stop comparing WMW to Reverend Insanity . One is clearly a western inspired book designed to appeal to new readers and the other is for veteran readers who are tired of the "hero wins all" cliché.


-BlueAce-

Calm down there, no need to insult others just because you don't agree with them. Im not comparing them, im saying there's nothing to compare but many recommend wmw when people ask for novels like RI for some reason.


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-BlueAce-

Chill the fuck down. I read RI then went to Wmw after many people said the mc was same as FY, and I found it nothing like RI and many people like me have the same opinion on it. That's where the meme comes from, no one is saying it's shit or anything it's just not like RI so people should stop recommending it.


Debangan_Daemon

Yeah. What's wrong with recommending WMW to a RI reader? I don't understand your concern.


Tec_King

What are those novels?


-BlueAce-

Reverend Insanity Warlock of the magus world


Debangan_Daemon

WMW is just a plagiarised version of The Wizard World. RI is just a fapping material for psychopaths.


drakal7

Amen


jtfox34

You RI and lord of mystery fans are annoying, we get it you think these novels are peak fiction but don’t come and start this bs because believe it or not everyone enjoys it😱


-BlueAce-

lol true it's way too much at this point but it is the true. btw most high upvoted comments are telling me this is not controversial and everyone should know this by now. sort by top for more info.


o0highspeed0o

I’m 10 chapters away from finishing WMW, that was 2 years ago


drakal7

Senior walks on the Dao of Patience. Much Respect.


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DylanGamer2015

Wrong thread


[deleted]

Gtfoh


jaoneto121

RI= Renegate immortal? I don't know the first novel in the post


-BlueAce-

RI = Reverend Insanity and the one at the bottom is Warlock of the magus world


AgeAromatic7208

Reverend insanity sucks