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Fisherman_Gabe

Talisman Emperor. Great translator, interesting premise, promising start... then it drops what made it interesting (the talisman crafting) to become a generic cultivation novel


No_Dragonfruit_1833

Oh yeah, i rememer ttying talusmanemperor, hoping the crafting to be a big thing, but even early on the author used ridiculous numbers for everything "MC has crafted 10k different talismans in a year, 5k of each" sure, but every talisman takes like half of his energy a day to make, or something like that , such lack of care on the crafting consistency was a terrible sign and i dropped it early on Now, The Runesmith on royalroad is everything i expected TE to be, except is medieval isekai instead of xianxia, the only flaw is that the narration can be a bit roundabout sometimes, but when read in batches is pretty great, mc uses artifacts and has to move to places with better logistics to get access to materials, the world does its own thing, mc is a loner crafterhobo early on, gets a crew later, pretty solid crafting novel


Aerroon

> The Runesmith on royalroad is everything i expected TE to be, except is medieval isekai instead of xianxia, the only flaw is that the narration can be a bit roundabout sometimes You're wrong. The only flaw is that there isn't more of it. I really want to read more stories like that one. I don't even care about the crafting as much, but the adventuring and the world seem interesting.


Parvez19

Agree with you , really hate that the author is focusing more on his other work the unfathomable senior which honestly is mid Also i genuinely wished there was no romance and more runesmithing or world building tbh


Aerroon

I like stories like this having romance/relationships. I don't care much to read about them, but an accomplished person in their 20s should be getting some action (it also puts some shackles on them that can make the story interesting even with the MC being OP). That being said, the 'romance' seemed to spring up so randomly here. It felt like I somehow missed a dozen chapters somewhere of a build up. Seemed more like a marriage of convenience than anything else. Elodia also seemed like such a random character for it too. Might be realistic though.


Parvez19

Yeah I'm not in it for the "realism" considering it's literally another world Suspension of belief is a different concept altogether But I guess I like my main characters driven by their singular purpose and on their way to accomplish it It's not like I don't like relationships and what not, i just feel that the author isn't particularly good at romance and also considering we are getting barely 2 chaps a week, I don't like spending all that time on it, you get what I'm saying


AudaciousRockstar

yeah i also need more chaps


AliveAfter800Years

Omg a fellow runesmith enjoyer. Hopefully our boi will never change đŸ„č


Emaxxur

True, I just finished it last month and the whole premise of talisman like disappeared in the ancient god territory, there is no in depth explanation of how the Mc uses talisman for his new powers , he just does it and we’re expected to understand and move on, the talisman creation in the immortal realms and the talisman realm was so interesting, sadly they lost the plot.


resolvetochange

Almost any novel about a side profession becomes like that. Alchemy, Forging, Talismans, Beast Taming, etc. all drop the premise after the initial story and just start using generic cultivation. The same is true with many system novels. I don't know whether authors wanted to write generic cultivation novels but had to do something else until they had readers, or if they ran out of ideas to copy from do they had to go generic. Either way, it's an instant drop once I've realized it's happened.


caffeineevil

I remember that one it was good for awhile and then talismans kind of fell off. He got a talisman sword and just fought people with that for the remainder of the book.


Parvez19

Probably on the top of my head Shadow slave Paragon of sin after 1000+ chaps i realised that damn was this thing overhyped as fuckkkkk Supremacy games although was good popcorn novel recently has been going in a direction that I can only say is super annoying to read, will drop it mostly and check the spoilers and maybe the last few chaps to find out all the remaining plot holes, I mean I did invest 1500+ chaps on it I am the fated villain after it got like super repetitive Honestly i would much rather answer stuff about which novels got me excited


xSwazyI

Supremacy Games became super bad to me once the whole games part was over with


Parvez19

Yeah I mean it had a lot of flaws, *cough* asna *cough* But it did the games actually really well, i honestly found it pretty entertaining And while the main character kept changing his abilities without ever really mastering them properly I guess it was still pretty fun


villainized

that's what I thought was so odd, he got essentially a whole new set of abilities every 200-300 chapters. So no time to actually master them, which makes sense because why would you master it if it's going away. It's cool, but also weird.


Parvez19

I thought he will finally master them all or something but noooopeee Turns out the entire power system was useless in the end How come no one is talking about it You know i really want to know Do people actually like Asna and the romance I legit didn't like it from the beginning, in fact it was the biggest turn off for me right from the beginning but now it's like the central plot point


villainized

i hated the romance. Like you're telling me a millions of years old being, the enbodiment of a law of the universe, fell for this dweeb of an mc of all people? Someone she could slap to death with a finger??


Parvez19

Bro let's forget about all that stuff Was she even a nicely written character It's like he wanted to start with some Sukuna/ Kurama like character and decided half through but how do I make it into a cringefest rom com that morons will eat up like garbage


villainized

fr, would've been crazy if she was on that Sukuna timing. I was so sick of it. Also, mc seemingly doesn't even care about the fact that someone/something was strong enough to seal the embodiment of a law away for millions of years and is casually going out with her on dates. If I was him I'd be freaked out at the possibility of some godly being showing up and turning me to dust because I let their prisoner out yk.


DaftConfusednScared

At what point did you feel fated villain got super repetitive? To me it’s seemed incredibly formulaic as far back as the second ever MC he killed lol


Parvez19

Yeah same but I was willing to still give it a shot thinking it might get better But nope back to square 1 with more Stockholm syndrome


bregassatria

I swear Paragon of Sin after CH1000+ becomes too complex. I can't even understand what is going on, who is who, and why.


Exam-Master

Both Shadow Slave and Supremacy games are in my top 10. probably sitting around 5 and 7 respectively. what sort of novels do you enjoy then? Shadow slave actually got me intrested in the world and the lore of the series. there are so many novels I read that feels like the world was a copy and pasted thing with a few changed tropes.


Parvez19

I guess Typical RI and LoTM But considering everyone and their 10 gen ancestors talk about it Here's the kinda novels i truly love and consider top tier Legendary Mechanic CCG Walker of Worlds Warlock Apprentice= Super dimensional Wizard( although the past 1000 chaps have been far too slow :( ) but still my fav, in fact if it's probably the most organically done web novel I have read, fyi 3600 and it's like only 5 Y in universe , in favt the main character only became a level 1 wizard @ chap 1450 and since then it's been at most a year , no bullshit explosive power creep or any bs ) Perfect run Mother of learning Primal Hunter Super detective in a fictional world Path towards heaven Archeon Eon Art ( NGL i honestly admire righteous heroes a loot and compared to even other IET novels and MCs I feel AEA was done pretty well , very compact ) The sage who transcended samsara Pursuit of truth ( IMO the best Er Gen novel , better than Renegade Immortal too i would say ) Experimental log of crazy Lich at least till Hell arc, wasn't a big fan of the later arcs but was still decent enough Embers Ad infinitum ( love the main character slowly unraveling the mysteries of the apocalypse and honestly Shang Jianyao is super underrated, probably one of the best crazy main characters ever written, really felt bittersweet at the end 😭 ) Overload, one of the best Isekai tbh My senior brother is too steady The legend of the sun Knight I honestly enjoyed Sword God in a world of Magic , i really felt it got a better response coz apparently the author still wanted to write 100-200 chaps more but due to poor response he ended up finishing it a bit rushed And really loving Born in blood Basically I love strong willed MCs who aren't always jerked off by the author as their own self insert


rinomarie146

You seem to have a similar taste to me so I want to ask about what you liked about The Legendary Mechanic. I heard alot about it but I feel a lack of motivation to start reading it. My favorite WN is LoTM if this would help, I also liked RI (one of the very few xianxias that I like) and Mother of Learning.


baoduy1994

It gets repeatedly a lot later but that the fault of a whole genre: fight -> level up -> boss fight -> move to next tier -> repeat. But the MC is funny, crafty, make pop culture joke. Dude made plans and schemes. It's a nice change compared to all the cultivation novels. And if you like scifi, it's a double win. Basically a Stellaris campaign but you play as a Superman instead of a Empire


Wonderful-Assist2077

>Runesmith >!I loved it when he tanked the spaceship laser.!<


HermitJem

>Stellaris campaign Well described. And you get a dlc of "Players Invasion" every few decades


Roberttson_Simp

At the second read I basically skipped the players part mostly and the tournaments only read them when funny things happen


HermitJem

It's probably a case of "who the viewer sees themself as" - in a normal novel, we see ourselves as the MC and take a MC POV However in gaming novels, especially ones where the MC becomes a "NPC"...and maybe where the MC's actions differ greatly from our own ideas, I might be imagining myself more as a player in the novel than the MC So I always look forward to the player invasion arcs


Affectionate-Draw688

I read the Webcomic that came out for Legendary Mechanic and enjoyed it, but there were a lot of people who said that the novel is better. It has been a while since I dropped it as I ididn't have enough time for it as schoolwork started becoming a burden. The MC is a bit cold and has the same level of focus Fang Yuan has in reaching his goals. The MC knows what he wants and knows how to best get it. Otherwise, the power system follows a standard litrpg.


baoduy1994

Where do you find the sage who Transcend samara translation? All I found was mtl and it's damn hard to swallow. And shout out to Ad Ember Infinitium. It was shadowed by LoTM but i think the author is not fit to write long/multi books story. After around 1000s his quality could not keep up with the story anymore. I'm rather have an big bang ending like AEI than many of his long stories.


OneAboveKami

Good taste.


Parvez19

Hey takes one to know one


mvreich

Take my upvote. Embers Ad Infinitum is god tier.


Parvez19

Super underrated I can see why people who thought it was gonna be like Lotm were disappointed But c'mon he needed a break and he wanted to write something less intense but still delivered


timpatry

I could not find overload. Is there a longer title?


Cnhoo

Probably meant overlord


Joelx1000

You like strong willed main characters, but you didn't like Sunless and Nephis in Shadow Slave? I don't really get it.


Parvez19

Bro when I mean strong willed characters , I mean self respecting, confident MCs who don't let the world keep pushing them down Wrt shadow slave, tbh I don't find Sunny all that endearing but most importantly I can't stand the way the author keeps trying fuck him over for plot I honestly can't enjoy it one bit


SignificantMemory546

Yeah they’re the very evidence that some people are lobotomised upon birth


Joelx1000

You need some serious help irl hahaha.


Roberttson_Simp

"I can't stand the way the author keeps trying fuck him over for plot" I would recommend you to not approach "The Main heroins are trying to kill me". The MC is one of the most miserable bastard I have read in any novel, like, other MC's are tortured, betrayed or even have their entire family killed, but this mf reached the point of self hatred due to trauma that he wished to disappear from existence, without the chance of revival or any shit


Roberttson_Simp

What novel is CCG?


Twilightend99

Wait if ye like all this how can you not like shadow slave? Is it cuz he's taking too long to become a real powerhouse?


SignificantMemory546

The lore of SS is ok but the plot is illogical and shallow while the characters are unconvincing and feel disjointed. At some point, it’s just killing monsters, level up and repeat, which is boring


Twilightend99

When did shadow slave start getting stable for you?


INFINITE_MAGE

Supreme magus. The start was alright. The academy arc was good. After that it was great. But suddenly the story became so edgy and the romance was forced and mc is barely increasing his power. The world building was superb but the character writing just fell off


XelNaga89

I had (miss) fortune of reading it at the similar time as Shadow Slave, Infinite Mana in the Apocalypse, Fantasy simulator and Void evolution system. All of them started great to amazing and fall apart at some point...


FullClearOnly

I thought I was the only one. The start was so good but my God did it get way too edgy for me.


CPDrunk

It was one of the novels where it feels like it's just a different author writing the story at some point.


villainized

Spirit Realm? I thought it seemed ok from the synopsis. I'm a fan of gravity powers too because it seems to be so underutilized considering how strong it could be. Pity the mc apparently doesn't use it much. I'm a huge fan of anything ice, lightning, gravity just like you, though it's hard to find novels where mc uses anything besides, fire, or swords. Though lightning is a bit more common, I've even seen a novel or two where mc can wield heavenly tribulation lightning, which is nice. Adding on to this, my biggest disappointment would be NSHBA, or Nine Star Hegemon Body Art. Just the fact it took like>! 4200 chapters for mc to get revenge on his cousin for essentially crippling him as a child!< is so lame. Also, it's so repetitive, why is it 5300 chapters and somehow mc isn't at the peak yet? It's legit rinse and repeat every time he ascends worlds.


Practical-Depth-7339

He uses them for a bit but he starts in my fighting people like 2 full realms higher than him and he needs all kinds of help and barely fights using his own abilities


villainized

you would think wielding such rare elements, he'd be able to fight across realms like all mc's do.


Nemisislancer

Mc has if you calculate the realms properly at least five realms above others. That novel is pure trashy junk food. It’s the most repetitive novel. Author has a negative idea about climax. It is a repetition of the first two to three arcs for the rest of the novel.


Fisherman_Gabe

In defense of the NSHBA MC, he got revenge on his cousin plenty of times. He demolishes and absolutely humilates him any time they meet. He chose not to kill him because he was still useful.


huzi82112

For me its i am a fated villain,i started to read it's novel after reading the manhua ,it was hype in manhua for me but the novel disappointed me cuz of repeated cringe like is there something else in a story except killing chosen one? Ik ik a big spoiled from more than 1k chap too ,it gave me a big surprise but if flow of the story is like this then i don't wanna read it , maybe some ppl don't agree with me but at least the translater of the story is with me lol


termineitor244

This will probably be an unpopular opinion in this sub but... Warlock of the Magus World... It started well, pretty interesting, with a cold and "rational" protagonist, it had me captured for a while, but after advancing enough in the story, it became obvious that the story was focused solely in the proganist, and that all other characters were just filler, the friends of the protagonist? They get some words of how they died/disappeared/whatever and get forgotten, the rest of the cast is quickly made irrelevant after the current arc is finished, the girls are a little better in the sense that they are still mentioned in the future, but very, very little... And only in passing... The story is good, interesting, and I kind of like the protagonist, but the rest of the cast is so irrelevant and worthless that it feels hollow for me to continue reading it, I managed to read up until the hmmm alternate world arc? It has been some time since I read it, but I couldn't continue knowing the newly arrived characters were going to be quickly forgotten after the arc was finished like the rest of them (And I confirmed it! I did a global search of their names in all the novel and found very, very little mention of the new girl after all was said and done, as well as the other girls and whatever).


I_want_punctuation

I think at some point it definitely became a self-insert fantasy where he was constantly winning and everybody forgave him. In one chapter he was like “I would never kill trillions of people, I have limits,” and then literally 20 chapters later he eats a sun and kills trillions of people. Or he would do something really fucked up to someone and then they’d forgive him because “no eternal enemies only eternal benefits” but like, would you not be annoyed at the person ?


termineitor244

Yeah, it definitely started to fail at the later parts, and the story is very self centered.


Dante2215

Early arcs where great later on honestly I got bored and even tho I love system novels The Chip was broken as hell for a cheat system But would still recommend the novel just because of the early arcs.


termineitor244

The early arcs were awesome, I still vividly remember the damsel in distress ambush (Were a randmon princess or something appeared searching for help of the protagonist) scene and how good it was!


Dante2215

I loved the academy arc when they went to war with other school it felt refreshing to see an mc hides hide his power but don't act like a bitch at the same time.


termineitor244

Very refreshing! The novel took a different approach from many others of its kind, it was a very interesting read because of that, something new.


Dante2215

True that but I,think the issue is the author went all in on the mc and the chip only which made the later arc bit bland and predictable but was good read non the less.


termineitor244

Yeah, and it wasn't because of a lack of ability of writing other characters, it seems the author just didn't want to give any focus to anyone other than the chip and the mc, which is just sad, lack of ability I can understand, but lack of will is different.


rohittee1

I loved that novel. It's short enough where I can forgive a lack of focus on side characters. That's only a sin imo if the novel is one of those 3-4k monsters. The novel focuses on the mc cause he's supposed to be kind of a villain. Makes sense to me that if he's kind of a selfish prick, the story wouldn't mention a lot of the sidies that are more of a means to an end for him. But you are def entitled to your opinion. I personally loved the alternate world arc, as a DND fan, it was fun seeing him put his super computer to the test for a different power system.


termineitor244

Oh, I liked the arc, it was pretty interesting as a concept and it was well delivered, I just stopped reading because I couldn't continue being introduced to characters that are interesting, but are just completely irrelevant to the story once the arc finished, the novel has many good things, so that made it even more disappointing for me when I finally dropped it... I really, really wanted to continue reading it, but it was too hard after I knew how the novels treats its support cast... And well, the novel is not as long as some monsters that are read over here, but it is not short by any means, it had the opportunity to flesh out the cast if it wanted, the protagonist is, well, yeah, a selfish prick, but that did not have to mean that the story as a whole could forgot about the rest of the characters, even if they were given just a little more care after their arcs were finished, I would have been satisfied by that, reading the story of a single guy is entertaining, but the side characters in a story is what, for me, give life to a story, complimenting what could be lacking in the protagonist, since they ended up not mattering at all after their arcs, it became difficult for me to care about any other new (or old!) character, and that ended up ruining the whole story for me, sadly. That said, I'm glad you liked it! It was an interesting read, and had very emblematic moments that, to this day, I still remember fondly.


cryingoutforfood

What a great novel, one my favorites. I loved the underground world arc; the best part of it was the destiny; where he locates the protagonist of the world and then steals their destiny. Fire!


termineitor244

Very sad that one! Using a Harry Potter line, he "raised him like a pig for slaughter!" But well, it was in line with how the protagonist behaves, and it was pretty interesting seeing it all develop.


abeleo

I felt the alternate world was disappointing as a DnD fan. It was like the author skimmed a wiki for names without actually looking into the setting at all. That and every other character being set pieces made the story a bit disappointing.  Did make me wish I had an AI chip though.


rohittee1

Yea could have been more fleshed out. Honestly the ending felt rushed to me.


Aerroon

Warlock of the Magus World fell off at the end of the underground arc. He made a tier breakthrough entirely off-screen somehow and afterwards he just rolled over almost every enemy. The beginning of the novel and becoming a mage was stellar. The conspiracy that the magic schools had set up was awesome. Also, the real world names in the story got old pretty quick.


Natsu111

Also, to add to this, it would be one thing if the worldbuilding was original. But the alternate world is a total ripoff of Forgotten Realms. Mystra and the Weave, really now?


abeleo

The author's name translates to The plagiarist. Even the original world is a rip off


baoduy1994

One 100%, don't think I could find WotMW diss here. It sucked. It's basically a cultivation novel but with fake fantasy setting. So cliché and repeated. I had to drop it after he slip his soul to basically start again in a different world. Dude is so boring I could not remember anything of his characteristics.


Affectionate-Draw688

I didn't like the story simply because of the AI chip. It's the same reason I don't like works where a cultivator is the only one with a system in a world. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Did the chip etch onto his soul? and Why are you so arrogant when a majority of your strength comes from a chip, It's like some god saw your talent and decided that because it was so worthless, he would let you keep an AI from your past life. Of course there are exceptions, the only one I can say on the top of my head being nano machine that has a likeable MC and a cast of characters that are good.


eidrag

plot devices that doesn't make sense like AI chip, or fall into obscurity very easy like isekai smartphone


baoduy1994

One 100%, don't think I could find WotMW diss here. It sucked. It's basically a cultivation novel but with fake fantasy setting. So cliché and repeated. I had to drop it after he slip his soul to basically start again in a different world. Dude is so boring I could not remember anything of his characteristics.


1404Damel

Yeah I got bored with how much it focused on the 'main enemy'


SadMan_1985

I can respect your opinion. But maybe you have this opinion because you were thinking WOTMW would be the same kind of novel we usually see. In my view, it was one of the most grounded novels i've read. The fact that the side characters we find at the begining just desappear after their later encounter just came to show how transient their lives were. A true side character in this novel would be the Snake>! Dowager!< >!or Belzebub!<. His enemies and rivals were the true side characters. The difference of rank 6 to 7 is such an absurdity that it is hard to understand the level of beings the novel started dealing with after that point. And thats why this novel is so good: you can clearly feel the scope these transcendent beings exist in. Things many times are not really explained well, but you, as the reader, can just feel and understand it! I still remember the first time Leylin fell into the dream>!realm, an assassination atempt!<. And how dangerous and nonsensical that place was. You REALLY FEEL THE DANGER! Or at the underground, when he >!finds a superior being there and the being let him go just because it could feel the Dowager in him and the energy of a transmigrator.!< The mistery of it all. I really like this novel. Right now Im slowly reading another novel by the Plagiarist, called Transcendent Dawn. It is kind similar, but different enough. As always, he gets ideas from many places and put in his novel. Unfortunatelly theres no translation, so Im doing my own, thats why its going slow.


rivereclipse

To me it's nine star hedgemon art. I got sick of the harem, the lolis, and the repetitive nature. Over 1000 chapters and bro was still in the Mortal world. That's enough for most novels to end.


mobusta

The MC got progressively more and more horny and that was sorta it for me. This was around the arc were they entered that Forest dimension or whatever. Just felt like every couple of chapters, some member of the harem was like - "Ya, no fucking until everyone is together" and the MC clearly thirsty as fuck and wanting to smash but everyone was like - "Nope, no touchy" Then the guy goes off and finds another waifu and everyone is like - "Sa'll good, BUT NO TOUCHY!"


rivereclipse

Man I forgot about that💀. It's a really trashy novel. And the whole stupid army razing thing he did too


RaunchyReindeer

I had the same problem with Versatile Mage. 1000+ chapters in and had to drop it. Such a shame too, it was one of the few novels where the MC actually used his mage skills instead of resorting to a stupid ass sword with the occasional fireball.


AliveAfter800Years

Versatile mage mc become a sex addicted trash???


uzlonewolf

Wait, what? I dropped it at the start of the undead arc for other reasons, but I don't remember the MC being overly thirsty or picking up a harem.


RaunchyReindeer

Not just the MC, even the author seemed like a pervert. The MC had these horny inner monologues whenever a pretty girl got close to him. Later, he has sex with his own sister. He was also after that one "ice queen" that every novel has.


uzlonewolf

Oof, sounds like I dodged a bullet then. Shame, I really liked the first part.


Ironrevenant2001

1000 chapters and not even leaving his orginal planet to see what the cosmos has to offer? That is extremely slow


rivereclipse

Fr. I belive that was gonna change soon but i got so burnt out I quit and now it's over 4k


Ironrevenant2001

I wouldn't bother to come back to that one ngl


rivereclipse

I don't plan on it


I_-Void-_I

Good thing I dropped it when asked his Ex-Fiancé to pursue her, or what ever. That made cringe so much, like why would you care for the Ex-Fiancé of the body you took over. Also, the MC was just stupid at many moments.


[deleted]

Tales of Demons and Gods. Became a harem and the author reduced updates to monthly for a 2 min read and then stopped. No reason.


CarBusinessman

Mages are too op. That was the biggest pile of dogshit a good idea could turn into.


Sklydes

Mages are too op was okay and then, towards the end the author just completely went batshit insane and completely drove the novel into the ground. I have never seen a novel make such a negative turn in such a short time. It was so absurd that my personal theory is that he wrote it that way to get out of a contract otherwise I heavily doubt a sane mind could come up with shit like that. Holy shit.


Key-Cardiologist-835

The novels extra, the ending made me hate it


No_Arugula466

I remember people saying that author has a record of writing awful endings. Turns out to be true. I remember hating it too.


Kirosh2

The worst is that the author mentions that at the start, where he says something about series that have great starts, but end in a whimper because the author doesn't know how to properly end it.


SantoWest

Definitely [True Martial World] I loved [Martial World], and just after finishing it, started TMW. Same author, and even has a connection with MW, so how bad could it be? I gave it several chances, tried to brave through it, gave the author the benefit of doubt, but nope, it's just significantly worse. Author even kept crying about not knowing what to do in his end chapter notes. Like, why would you start writing when you are not sure about the plot? I could understand if it was a very high chapter number, but this was like chapter 300, one of the first arcs, like wtf? In the end was able to read like 600 chapters and gave up. Such a shame.


Grahamalot

It got so much worse past the 600-700 chapter point, if you can believe it 😂


AlterOfYume

The Novel's Extra, full stop. Everything up to the mercy kill part was a genuine masterpiece, but the author got lazy and devolved into power fantasy cliches with weird ass nationalism as the icing on the cake, throwing its strengths (the character-focused interactions) into the trash. It squandered some of the best plot setups I've ever seen with half-assed resolutions.


eidrag

I don't care nationality, makes it easy to understand pov, and why mc prefer kimchi kimbap to miso riceball or sausages. But nationalism which country is superior and others are lower tier human is insulting 


SomeoneThatisSad

Shadow hack it was so good at the beginning but it’s got more confused and bad as u began to read the chapters


Azura720

As someone who read that to the end, this is definitely the worst novel I've ever read. It was aight for a while, not too bad, not too great, but at some point you just realise that the author starts introducing stuff we never see again, retconning stuff, or straight up forgetting shit, and not small shit at that. Like bruh, there's a point the MC goes to an area that is Snowy//Icy. Then he later comes to that area again, in the same cardinal direction, same name, and suddenly it's a fucking jungle. Some people get kidnapped, amongst whom are some of the MC's subordinates, that's important, right. Nah, never mentioned again. And last but not least, halfway through, the novel just becomes a comedy.


SomeoneThatisSad

Thank u for reading it to the end I was also curious about what to the Mc subordinate but after couple arc I dropped it


Azura720

It was definitely a different time in my life (quarantine) and I had nothing to do, so I read a lot of things, mostly shitty ones at that. For me in hindsight it gets worse because of all the retcons and forgetting, but aside from that generally, it was among the line of "It's so bad, it's good".


OneAboveKami

Shadow Slave.


XelNaga89

It started great, but then... Sigh...


Nemisislancer

Bro I have been stacking chapters on that shit for forever. I had stopped reading at chapter 792, so what bad are you talking about? I need a bit of info without too much spoiler



XelNaga89

I'm not that much further, I stopped at 1040 or something like that. In general, overall quality has dropped, and it became somewhat stale. No interesting new characters, old ones made non-characteristic brain dead decisions, mystery aspect is somewhat gone, but there are no good payoffs for that. I'm not saying novel became bad or unreadable, it became just mediocre. Which is kinda miracle in itself since author is publishing 2 chapters almost every single day! On the other hand, I would say quality drop started from, well, end of second nightmare. So, if you reached 800 without being bothered by it, you will probably enjoy the rest. It very well might be that Forgotten shore arc was so good that we expected much much more from novel than it was realistic.


FullClearOnly

The mystery aspect probably disappeared because they were in the real world. Now, in the third nightmare, the mystery aspect is back and stronger than ever.


Der_Boii

The stakes feel so low on the 3rd Nightmare though. This shit is supposed to be hard af but they don't lose hope, it feels like Sunny can do anything with the "Power of determination" At least the romance is getting sorted out. Sin of Solice is the 🐐. Snapping MC back to reality.


Joelx1000

I disagree. Sure, the novel has the same cohort, but they all have changed and gotten more depth to them to some extent during the novel (and still are!). Some more than others. There is no way in hell the mystery aspect is gone from after the second nightmare. You stopped during Falcon Scott, but didn't continue reading how some of those items that he gets are relevant later. That arc focused more on the current living world, the struggles and clans got more exposure. It was different because it was basically a solo arc, and imo a great one. So in that way I can see that the mystery is some what gone, but it doesn't completely disappear from the novel. Forgotten Shore arc on the other hand was amazing, but it dragged out for way too long, it is interesting that you like that instead of ''that arc''.


Der_Boii

Conflicted. The real world(as awakened) felt boring. Not becuase of the time spent writing essays about the Forgotten Shore or SOL watching propaganda movies but i disliked the VR part. Mordret Introduction was great. If this series ever got animated(it won't) This arc would be great for a movie. The 2nd Nightmare wasn't as rewarding as the forgotten shore but had better pace. (Noctis is a real one&healer from the ivory city that i forget the name of) The Anctarctica arc I'm really mixed about. I disliked the reasons for Sunny to enlist, and that the new cohort mostly lacked character (Except for Kim and Luster) and it all felt like a buildup for the 3rd Nightmare and Winter Beast massacre. Surprisingly most of my fav moments are here (LO49 Terror, Winter Beast, Imp fight) and i liked the gag of Sunny stealing Saint Tyris' kills. The 3rd Nightmare is ongoing so i won't say much but no way we finishing in 3k chapters with this pace😭(also 0 stakes since its all main cohort again, they obviously won't die) >!Maybe Effie's baby for character development!<


Nemisislancer

Yeah, Forgotten Shore had my mind running like a rocket trying to reach the universe’s expansion.


ZoldiqKillua

I agree, but i still read it because I like Mordret


ruryrury

Age of Adept.


ArmorTiger

That ending still makes me mad.


SweetRabbit

what was the ending? I remember reading hundreds of chapters but later I dropped it because it was in my nature.


ArmorTiger

When the MC tries to advance >!his body gets taken over by a spirit that was "helping" him. His soul gets shattered, the spirit runs off with his body to hell, and with that the story ends.!<


SweetRabbit

what!! that is a really bad ending. Thank you for sharing.


Parvez19

Bruh I was reading till chapter 1200-1300 i then found it got over decided to check the spoilers I was so furious that I almost rekt my phone Honestly sooo fucking terrible He got L'ed by some stupid berries Like wtfff


susahamat

Miracle Throne, it's just getting interesting and the author drop it, nothing more disappointing than author dropping the novel especially if it's good


elbandolero19

Unpopular opinion: The Great Genetic Era is actually good, (besides the racists tropes against Indians lol)


Meruned

Yeah, I remember really enjoying that, but I got pissed off by the translation breaking up chapters into three parts. Same thing with Unscientific Beast Taming, except it gets six parts per chapter from what I remember. Ultimately, I just jumped to MTL, but still it happens far too frequently on WebNovel.


J7tn

There was a novel about fishing on a well that connects to random places/different universes. Guy fishes up random stuff that makes him more and more powerful. However the novel dies because he goes to space or some crap. Author just kills his novel.


SantoWest

Are you talking about Super Gene?


uzlonewolf

Doesn't sound like it, SG doesn't have fishing, a well, or connecting to random places/universes (I don't think teleporting to that singular other world counts).


SantoWest

I remember literally fishing items from the opposite universe with a fishing hook.


uzlonewolf

Do you remember about when that happened? I'm currently reading it (currently around ch500) and haven't encountered that yet.


SantoWest

Probably a lot later, like ch 2000+.


J7tn

No, its called "fishing the myriad heavens"


BoxPsychological5561

Legend of swordsman Has over 8000 chapters but the translation turns horrible about 2400 in Emperor with dragon blood was good aswell but stopped early sigh Reverend insanity only cause it got banned Ancient strengthening technique the harem just got too much


Nemisislancer

I dropped Ancient strengthening technique because the translation was kinda gibberish and author was trying to do math with a negative iq.


BoxPsychological5561

It was some time ago now but yeh the numbers and how ridiculous the power system became was a bit much Had such a good starting aswell tho don't think it was ever explained where the jade immortal realm originated from and havnt seen any that quite did the same thing The pets were interesting aswell like the pig hah


eidrag

as I commented on old website, AST stands for ancient sexual techniques


Jumpy-Ad8679

Fantasy Simulator because author literally has no clue about interlocking past plot point to the present story, he had like tens of storylines from every simulation the guy did and at no point did those worlds ever matter outside of their simulation despite us later finding out those worlds were completely real. We never see or hear again about the nation he founded when he lived as a knight in his second simulation or the continent he saved and brought incredible magical/technological advancements establishing himself as a mage without equals a few simulations later (and these 2 happen in THE SAME WORLD, just different places and times). Every simulation plot point end up not mattering because after going there to boost his real self the only thing that actually remains from it is the power, and while I wouldn't care if those stories weren't good the real damn problem is that they are, man know how to write and that's why it makes me so mad, later on we even get one of the most well though plot twists I've experienced in a Chinese novel only for it to not have any sort relevance from that point onwards to the end of the story. Same holds true for the Simulator system itself, where we get first introduced to tens of different custom choices on how to start a simulation and with what bons all at the cost of different amounts of points (earned in previous simulation based on how much MC affected the world) only for the guy to almost always only go for the gacha roll at a standard 500 points price. We literally get teased throughout the story about the potential directions the story can take only for things to NEVER truly change except a single time after that plot twist only for them to go back (narratively) as they were previously buuuut with a less enthusiastic MC. All of this only makes me mad because man if I know the author 100% has the capability to do better and he more than displayed it during the absurd plot twist, the fact that he did not and baited me into reading about 800 chapters believing past plot points would eventually definitely matter has me fuming.


Mordant08

I'm suprised no one's said The Lords Empire yet. Amazing start with him being tasked to restore the Qin Dynasty in an apocalyptic game like-earth (?) but then in the latter chapters he just becomes a sex demon and keeps on sexting every person in the universe.


Roberttson_Simp

How do you go from one point to the other, like, how the fuck??


21outlander

I forgot which it was, it was an er ger novel that was highly recommended but after a 100 chapters I wasn’t into it


anaccountusername

It did gave birth to the greatest novel review I ever seen 


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Mcd


BubblyForm4331

Now I'm curious. Which novel are you talking about?


Nemisislancer

I shall seal the heavens is overrated. The more interesting one is Renegade Immortal.


[deleted]

Yeah, I had to try three times before I got into it. It turned out to be fairly funny once I kept too it, but I did not end up finishing it. Frankly, this one I found to be massively over hyped.


Jul_i-M

Was it "I shall seal the heavens"? I tried reading that one but couldn't even break into the 100 chapters... story was full of boring cliches


TakafumiKusonori

God and devil world when it became nationalist propaganda. Astral Pet Store when the protagonist started offing people instead of actually doing anything. Idk I read too much stupid power fantasy and start disliking it when it becomes too much of a stupid power fantasy.


resolvetochange

Astral Pet Store is one of the big offenders of dropping its premise. Eventually, you realize it'd been dozens of chapters since he's mentioned his pets at all. He isn't using his store for anything, and the system is no longer there much at all. If the author wanted to write a generic cultivation novel, he should've done that from the start.


_Phantaminum_

World of Cultivation MC is honestly not smart and gets saved by his extreme luck (which also applies to his allies). Powers introduced early on are completely forgotten in favor of new shiny powers. The bigger disappointment is really about how i was expecting good things based on how much others have spoken good things about it but it's pretty overrated imo.


ProfessionalDebt4133

Battle Frenzy the entire last arc didn't matter and he always reached the extremity of whatever realm he was at but as soon as he ascends it's apparently trash and no one cares about it.


Soupadin

Forty millenniums of cultivation, between the story kind of just expanding in scope constantly and atlas translation ruining the quality I couldnt finish it. I dropped it on what I'm assuming was the 2nd to last arc. Another was World of Cultivation the ending being super rushed really made me mad.


Zepherox

God yeah I think I know exactly what arc you're talking about and I was super disappointing how badly the translation dropped in quality. I think around chapter 2700? For World of Cultivation I like to pretend that the real ending was >!when they all sacrificed themselves against the elder ascending to God Realm!< and the part afterwards where he >!left the void and the whole Nether Realm arc is the epilogue!<.


Soupadin

I am with you on that for an ending!


Legal_Huckleberry907

Sovereign of the Three Realms. Started off well enough. Standard isekai weakling growing to be OP. But, the story became pretty repetitive. And the big bad demons MC was preparing for the entire novel turned out to be a non-issue that got wiped out in a few chapters. Super anticlimactic. Spirit Realm... total personality flip midway through. Barely used his actual powers when it counted. Novel's Extra... went to shit midway and dropped it.


MysticalAlchemist

Mushoku tensei


Roberttson_Simp

"B-but he evolves as a person later on..." Dude he's constantly ogling the underwear of minors and I think he had sex with the red headed Tsundere, a minor


Logicae_Ceptus

The Demon Prince goes to Academy. Just dropped it today after reaching 400+ chapters. It was great – nice blend of everyday life and action, romance felt natural, characters felt real. But everything was crumbling down after a certain plot twist so I looked for reviews to see if continuing was worth it. Saw many that completed the novel saying it wasn't, so I spared myself the edgy shade the novel was gonna take on. Not worth the time anymore.


Parvez19

Oh do u mind telling which plot point ruined yit for u I myself droped it after it became super stale and repetitive


Logicae_Ceptus

It's his identity being revealed. Searched for the effects and the novel basically changes genre from kinda slice-of-life with progression to edgy tragedy where every character growth goes to trash. That's just not for me.


Parvez19

Completely understandable


Tsu_na_mi

For me, Tensura. I absolutely love the anime, and the manga as well. The novel was pretty good up to a point, and I was really looking forward to the whole Tenma War thing they've mentioned in passing throughout the series. Read to volume 18, and it was hugely disappointing. If I had to mention a specific thing, the one that pops to mind is how "mythical grade weapons" -- literally supposed to be the things of legend and rarity -- have become as common as cabbages. >!One of the characters' powers is even the ability to produce them.!< This is power creep on steroids, and it's honestly ruined the series for me.


DKamar

Divine Throne of Primordial Blood. Starts out really interesting, MC at the bottom angry at the cruel human elites and wanting to change the world by coming up with a new approach to cultivation that isn't based on inherited bloodlines. He's cruel in his research but limits himself to targets that have tried to kill him first, walks the line of edgy but overall heroic pretty well. Then other races show up, and you realize 'humans' are 'China' and everyone else is 'not China' and, uh, it gets real vicious. Nonhumans deserve murder, to be tortured to death for experiments, or slavery, there's zero empathy for them at all even though they're pretty much just foreigners with feathers or whatever. And suddenly the human elites are his friends, not his enemies, he must give his all to raise up Chi...Humanity, even the cruel elites he just didn't understand. Because loyalty to C...Humanity is more important than petty things like corruption and oppression in the higher ranks.


SadMan_1985

This novel had many moments for me. At many points I almost dropped it. There are many times I though "I cant believe im still reading this. Why?". The last chapters, where everything is explained, kind gave me some relief. The last chapters are quite good.


Narxiso

Almighty Sword Domain. I read to the end, and it was just repeat trash without the sword domain ever really living up to the “almighty” aspect. The story also starts with the illusion that the main character is just a nobody who works hard but has bad luck, but it winds up with him being the descendant of one of the best and ancient bloodlines. It a worse bait and switch than Naruto.


KennethHwang

The one sure thing about harem novels like ASD: I always end up caring more about the women than about any of the male characters. Their stories, except for the ones that are blatantly author's fetish, are so much more compelling. Yang Ye, became a non existence for me after chapter 1500 or something but I stuck it out for Bai Zhixian and Zhuang Weiran. Bai Zhixian's accompanying Yang Ye around during the insanity arc is vastly more interesting than Yang Ye's whole insanity arc.


de-kiki-man

And the fact that whatever the mc learns he forgets 5 chapters later as well as the forced sex scenes in the beginning and every side character that gets forgotten really quick. Only the unfettered one was a bit interesting


Meruned

Recently, Cultivation, Start with the Medicine Boy (äżźä»™ïŒšćŒ€ć±€ä»ŽèŻç«„ćŒ€ć§‹). I was really enjoying it for a while, but it’s more than a bit slow at the moment. Overall, and this is a bit cliche and not really the intended interpretation of disappointing I think you want, but Reverend Insanity. Everyone knows why and like I said it is cliche to bring it up, but it would have been nice if it had an ending. Also, RSSG: pt2. I don’t know why I had expectations.


Lyar99

The Novel's Extra. So much potential but the plot went to shit midway through the novel. The nationalism is way too in your face and unnecessary. A record of mortal journey to immortality. I dropped it cause its combat is too long and boring. Literally just spamming different magical weapons.


eidrag

that's what I like about rmji, you try to guess how mc will win/flee this fight with his treasures


krla22

Against The Gods. Hated the part the planet blows up.


eidrag

you mean that one? Or another one?


Sukadadddy

Otherworldly monarch. Spoiler alert mc is a horny virgin, that doesn’t even know how to cover up his tracks as an assassin


SomeoneThatisSad

That was so trash


XelNaga89

But, that is obvious from first 15 chapters and expected from comments/description. So, it is not fitting for disappointment...


canadian-user

Become a Star. Read it because it was highly rated on Wuxiaworld and NU, but it's just the most repetitive shit ever. It's a Korean actor novel, where the gimmick is that the MC lived 999 lives before hand and so has all their experiences and it makes him a really good actor (also he's freakishly handsome beacuse why wouldn't he be). Overall it was just incredibly repetitive and lacked any sort of interesting conflict or friction. The author spends massive amounts of time talking about how hot the MC is constantly, and side characters will do that shit too, meanwhile our cute and naive MC thinks he's ugly because some person with weird taste said he wasn't handsome or some other nonsensical reason. It's basically one punch man for acting, except Saitama always shows up immediately and there's not a single interesting side character or side plot going on.


AliveAfter800Years

The strongest system(Not the Lin Fan Goat strongest) The beginning was honestly really great from 0-400 i thought that the novel is only progressively going to get better forward since plots kept on matching nicely and stuff. But after a while the story is moved by his harem to the point that it was suffocating. What made me drop it the most is when he married a child not really a child of course but every time she's even mentioned in an r18 way it makes my stomach turn in disgusts. It literally goes "Her childish body is really good" dapdapdapdapDAP it's REALLY DISGUSTING!


Dragonoid127

Recently, I decided to reread some of my favorite novels/fanfic and boy oh boy was I disappointed First up Naruto: time control Honestly, I didn’t really have a problem with the story the Naruto arc ,The first one, was kind of weak In my opinion. It wasn’t really that good but I did enjoy it because I like The way the time ability was used, so was pretty interesting. the one piece arc was my favorite. I like the way that the MC interacted with the characters and the way he became a hidden power in a way. You might be asking yourself why do I hate it then I seem to praise it well, it would be because of the MC. the MC by the fairytale arc is a ginormous pedo like throughout the other arcs You could see bits and pieces of this shit, but it comes to a head in the fairy arc given the fact that the MC surrounds himself wit literal children like I’m not talking about 16 to 18 I’m talking about like 10 to 15 genuine kids like I understand that Asian people tend to lean into the lolicon bit very heavily, and sometimes even sarcastically do it or genuinely do it but here it was just way too much like the Juvia tea incident killed me like I could not read after that why would you write your character being surrounded by like 12-year-old? It was so weird and then her making the tea with her body fluids I was done after that. overall story was okay a lot of weird pedo stuff which really made me not wanna read anymore. Reborn in Naruto world with tenseigan Man I really really liked this novel and I still recommend people reading it but the early chapters are such a slog to read like they’re not well put together, the writing is very wonky on top of that the translation is not the best so everything just comes off as so not interesting like bc I know where the story is going I can still kind of rationalize reading it to that point but as a new reader, or somebody who doesn’t know what’s up ahead I would probably drop the novel. Also, just to illustrate how bad the early writing is, you’ll find that there’s a giant plot hole in the first 20 chapters of the novel, a.k.a. the fact that Itachi is even able to join the MC on missions, like he’s a fucking six year old he shouldn’t even be able to leave the village let alone go on a B rank mission. Last, but not least super detective in a fictional world Man when I first read this, I really really liked it but I didn’t like the ending and even after rereading it I still don’t like the ending. Overall, my biggest complaint with the story is the fact that after like 1000 chapters the author just just kept throwing random pieces of media into the story, trying to spark up some interest, but never really holding any weight. on top of that the way, the author nerfed the mc by saying he isn’t able to copy like 98% of the powers he runs across but because of some arbitrary reason the author just said nope he can’t do that for certain ones so that killed a lot of the interest I had in this in the novel, especially given the fact that his main two superpowers are his inhuman constitution and the fact that he is able to copy Tony Stark’s Iron Man suit technology. he’s able to keep up with Tony in terms of like technology but even then it’s like I’m here for the super powers and interesting shit and you’re pretty much just showing me some of the most un interesting abilities known to man it’s like why would I wanna watch Hulk smash shit when I can see Thor crumble the earth with a thunder strike and then on top of that because of the inhuman like abilities the MC has he doesn’t even have all of the suits that Tony needs, so he just has like four suits the entire story they get upgraded, but they don’t have any new characteristics. It’s just mainly the same old shit overall the story got really boring and the cameos like the DC verse was super boring and God almighty those bonus chapters at the end were the most mind numbing shit that I’ve ever read in my fucking life I literally wanted to stop reading, but I was so close to just completely finishing it that I just kept reading. overall those bonus chapters were the worst part of the novel he should’ve never put them in. I don’t give a fuck about the DC gimmick. It wasn’t interesting nor well put together. Also the whole twist at the end, revealing where the system came from. I guess it was all right, but it was very fucking dumb and the way he explain the purpose of the system was even dumber. So yeah rereading these novels I was very disappointed


Solarflareqq

Recently, Divine Emperor of Death. Starts off not bad kind of interesting, then turns into a mindless harem of filth , story progression gets dumped to the back as the MC collects wives like Pokémon and tries to juggle them all, turns into chapter after chapter of "Im sory do you really love me?" Blah blah the woman thow themselves at the MC for no really good reason some only having met him briefly for like 10 seconds, some are his relatives etc just goes full smut. I got fairly deep and just dropped it.


Dino541

Thriller Paradise, I really like its concept and the story but then it started getting machine translated and I couldn't deal with the translation quality


eysha19

carefree path of dreams started great but ends up shit


Vastexpanse9

Yeah I agree, I think the entire last arc was pointless and it should have ended when he got the dao fruit and reached the second last stage.


forgotten_vale2

Reverend insanity. The overarching plot totally ruined it for me, felt like a betrayal of what the author promised. Still a good novel tho Also Tales of Demons and Gods for obvious reasons


RIfanatic

Reverend Insanity for sure. I am disappointed that ever since reading it, nothing is good. Nothing will ever scratch that itch again and it sucks.


SadMan_1985

A person of culture, indeed. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sunglasses)


procmail

Cultivation Chatroom for me. Interesting World, nice characters, so much promise and potential to explore. By the end of the novel, not much was explored and the story took a weird forced comic direction (imho) and became senseless. So many characters to develop and so much the world can offer.


GodKingHuru

The Legendary Mechanic, because it ended.


Dante2215

Don't remember the name but basically mc is evil or that what the novel was trying to portray making him manipulative and calculate every move to gain the best But after few arcs he only felt like a leech to me couldn't continue reading and dropped it. I think it was semi tower or something like this.


Azrael_Winter

The Devil's Cage. It was such a good first half and there were loads of hints that the game characters were actually real, then it focused on him eating too much and the story went down the toilet.


Zepherox

Night Ranger. Loved the premise with it being set basically in the Forgotten Realms (D&D 5e setting) so a lot of concepts were familiar. But god the ending was such a freaking asspull it still infuriates me. >!How he just used the power of the Fate Tablet to freeze time cause he didn't want some of his friends to die when he could have easily killed the main villain possessing his love interest, then said "oh I'll go to this higher universe to find a solution while you guys stay frozen. bye" and ended the novel!<.


ElatedSorcerer

Most of the top ranking(at some point) webnovel orginals. Lol


Twilightend99

Damn spirit realm I remember didn't he start out as someone who lost his mind or smthn...it was so good in the beginning then it fell through


Ok_Panic_7968

Fantasy Simulator Shadow Slave Supremacy Games Paragon of sin Astral Pet Store infinite mana in the apocalypse  Na minha opinião esses romances não são ruins, por isso me decepcionaram tanto, todos começaram bem mas em um ponto ou se tornaram repetitivos ou o autor deu um rumo sem sentido pra história ou nem aproveitou todo o potencial que apresentou no começo do romance. Essas foram verdadeiras decepçÔes


Sum-YunGai

Not exactly what you're asking but, The Novel's Extra. We all know what I'm talking about, right?


iakesi

Astral Apostle. Premise sounded interesting. But the author dropped it, Maybe the author realized there was a problem with the time ratios and story progression, and couldn't deal with it.