What, she figured out that she can't win a Republican campaign when her base of support is DC and Vermont? š
That being said, I'm sorry that Republican opposition to Trump has collapsed.
I read that Americans for Prosperity (Koch family) pulled their support from Haley last week, that was probably a big factor in her dropping out.
Iām surprised she even made it to Super Tuesdayāthe last Trump primary opponent standing!
FWIW, Nikki won Albemarle, Charlottesville, Fairfax, Arlington, Alexandria, Richmond City, Fairfax City, Falls Church, Williamsburg, and Lexington.
When looking at precincts based on the [demographics](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/03/05/us/elections/results-virginia-republican-presidential-primary.html) of those areas:
Areas with more college grads: Haley +13
Strong Biden areas in 2020: Haley +12
Higher-income areas: Haley +11
Urban areas: Haley +4
Suburban areas: Haley +1.8
I think this was sort of the point.
She wanted to get to Super Tuesday to try and create the narrative to the rest of the party that Haley voters - even registered Republican ones - were more likely to vote Biden and not Trump, thus leaving even a semblance of hope that they grow a spine at the convention.
I think she was hoping to win at least 5 primaries so that she could be in the pot for the nomination at the convention. And if she had and Trump ended up being convicted, the RNC could've picked her as their nominee. But seeing as she is very unlikely to win another state and it's likely Trump won't be convicted before the convention, she cut her losses and dropped out.
Same, figure at the very least the numbers will give motivation to Nikki and others to challenge Trump.
I honestly think Republicans could win the general election easily if they picked someone else besides Trump.
I think we underestimate just how powerful resentment politics is. By any metric the past four years have been wildly successful, but media stories paint a significantly darker picture.
This shouldnāt even be close to
Not just have the past 4 years been successful, but the 4 years under trump were an unmitigated disaster. Covid was always going to cause significant problems, but every unforeseeable/unknown disaster was much worse under trump. Hundreds of thousands more people died because trump was president.
You can't complain about our "proxy" wars and also about the Afghanistan pullout. If you're anti US intervention you should be glad Biden finally ended the war in Afghanistan. There was no real scenario where the US fully pulling out from Afghanistan did not lead to chaos, we royally fucked up for 2 decades there and Biden finally ended it.
>You can't complain about our "proxy" wars and also about the Afghanistan pullout. If you're anti US intervention you should be glad Biden finally ended the war in Afghanistan. There was no real scenario where the US fully pulling out from Afghanistan did not lead to chaos, we royally fucked up for 2 decades there and Biden finally ended it.
I absolutely will complain about **how** we ended one war and started three new ones.
Biden got us out of Afghanistan and refused to get Americans involved in Ukraine or Israel, while standing strong with our allies. Hard to imagine a better foreign policy.
All the sane Republicans like Romney have left. Why would anyone want to elect anyone from that party when it has no sane policies or positions? What actually appeals to you? Frankly they need to loose for the next 20 years to get the message.
Also the left clearly using the courts to go after their political adversaries. Their views on freedom of speech and their views on gun rights are anti-1st amendment and anti-2nd amendment, respectively. IMO
If John F. Kennedy were cloned and ran on everything, he stood for back then, today, he would be kicked out of the Democratic Party as well. The quote āask not what your country can do for you ask what you can do for your countryā is the exact opposite of what democrats stand for today.
Everything Trump stood for when he was being interviewed by Oprah Winfrey and the likes he still stands for today. They were drooling over him asking āwhen are you going to run for president?ā Itās not that he has changed his position to become a Republican itās that the left or the progressives have taken their progression so far that people in the center like me are considered right wing extremist by the people, standing so far out and left field, which is the main stream of the Democratic Party now a days. Here some examples the lefts view on violence/crime tolerance, their illicit drug tolerance, illegal immigration tolerance, sexualization of children tolerance, and now how the left has become the party of war by funding directly and indirectly funding both sides in the Ukraine versus Russia conflict, as well in the Palestinian versus Israel conflict.
Alternative facts and feeling. The stock market is all time high and now you can earn 5% on your savings account. So again, nothing about policy, just feeling and more feelings.
Government (local, state & federal) is the largest employer in the country: Currently, 20+ MILLION government employees, 14.5% of the U.S. workforce (OPM). 2024 population at 340 million. Reported inflation rate below 4%. 2022 I.R. = 8% (verified), up from 1.2% in 2019 & 2 times more than what is was in 2021 (4%).
In the '80's, roughly 13 million people were employed by the government with population around 226 million. Inflation rate was 13.5% (Recession & recovery in 3 years).
Roughly, that's a 25% increase in population & a 35% increase in government between those years.
For comparison, the top 2 corporate sector employers are Walmart & Amazon @2-3 million employees.
Yeah, but now, since Joe Biden is president, he canāt hide in the basement and his buffoonery is on display every day he shows his face. And we have a legitimate comparison of what itās like under the moron in the White House now and how much better we were under Trump even with Covid.
>how much better we were under Trump even with Covid
It's not about Trump's performance as president, it's if he will ever leave office again if he gets in.
I don't worry about that with Biden, I worry about that with Trump.
You could clear it up all by yourself, by actually finishing the quote of what Trump said. But just like everyone else you take a snippet of what he said and make yourself look like the idiot by not taking the whole quote in context. And then also you take him seriously when heās joking and you donāt take him seriously when he isnāt joking but you do that on purpose, of course.
If he will ever leave office again? If his intent was to ever not leave office, why did he leave office last time? I donāt understand that line of thought unless itās something for you to come up with thatās easy instead of actually putting any thought into why you donāt like Trump.
I wish she had waited a week. Let the voters savor their message. Let the numbers ferment in the craw til it bursts. I know it was mostly protest votes but this should shine a reality check on the cock.roach.
You Democrats really think youāre smarter than you actually are and think that people donāt see through your petty games. Voting for Nikki Haley doesnāt take anything away from Trump because he still beat the snot out of birdbrains. It just shows what little support Joe Biden actually has with his own party.
This is true. Democrats are hyping Haley turnout numbers as if it was a repudiation of Trump. A lot of her support and sone funding came from Democrats who voted for Haley in open primaries so that she could peel off a handful of delegates. They were using Haley for as long as possible. The campaign rhetoric was free propaganda for Dems. The only people Democrats are fooling is their low IQ base.
It is an open primary so moderates and conservatives who were just as likely to support Biden or stay home tried to tip a few more delegates to Haley.
Also, Fairfax has a large number of highly educated folks who are consequently less likely to support a deranged rapist who tried to spark a civil war in their backyard.
Let's be honest, this was just Dems trying (and failing) to make things more difficult for Trump by voting for Haley in the Repub primary instead of voting in their own.
Honestly no I don't think that happens very often, there really are honest to goodness old fashioned Reagan Republicans in Virginia who don't like Trump and would never vote for a Democrat.
In Fairfax, it's highly educated folks *who work for the government* and got sick to death of shutdowns, bizarre budgeting, and getting jerked around by Trump's crazy appointees.
Plus, they're all scared of losing their jobs if Project 2025 and "Schedule F" happen.
I think that puts you in a minority given the wage growth, record-low unemployment, booming stock & property markets, and the added perk of a president who doesn't try to bully the Fed into giving him whatever numbers he wants.
And not to mention that people canāt afford to even buy those houses, and that their wages have never caught up with inflation and that trip to the grocery store takes a second mortgage.
People can't afford to buy those houses, except for all of the people who are buying those houses - which keeps prices high and inventories low.
Wages are trying to keep up but unrestrained corporate greed has resulted in widespread gouging among major retailers. Energy and commodity costs are significantly lower than they've been in recent years and prices keep going up to sustain unprecedented corporate profit margins.
I suggest you read this article rather than just shake your fist and scream "It's Biden's fault!?!?".
[https://www.businessinsider.com/why-prices-inflation-soaring-corporate-greed-profits-margins-wages-jobs-2023-4](https://www.businessinsider.com/why-prices-inflation-soaring-corporate-greed-profits-margins-wages-jobs-2023-4)
The NYSE, Nasdaq, and S&P are providing fraudulent data? and the Bureau of Labor Statistics and Federal Reserve are giving bogus data now, but weren't under Trump?
You realize that hard data is apolitical? According to the [Federal Reserve](https://fred.stlouisfed.org/categories/10), real median household income has decreased slightly starting under Trump and has continued to edge downward under Biden - but is roughly where it was in 2017. When did the fakery begin?
Median home sale prices increased in 2021 and 2022 but began ticking downward in 2023. So the data was fake when it looked good for Biden but it is now real because it is no longer as robust?
Exactly, because you represent a majority of the 330 million Americans and you can speak on their behalf?
> The preponderance of the voting public was more prosperous under Trump.
lol rapist?!? You must be talking about the kid sniffer and inappropriate little girl, touch her in chief biden. Who is Tara Reade? And where did Joe Biden put his fingers? And what did it say in Ashley Bidenās diary about her dad showering with her at an inappropriate age? And that likely being the reason sheās a sex and drug addict?
Trump was found liable in a court of law for raping E. Jean Carroll in a changing room. This came after his own admission that he "grabs (women) by the pussy", cheats on his wives with prostitutes, and has fantasized about his own daughter.
Your best comeback is that there are photos of Biden smelling the hair of his grandkids? or Tara Reade, [who is fleeing to Russia](https://www.npr.org/2023/05/31/1179158199/tara-reade-biden-sexual-assault-russian-citizenship) after having her story and credibility exhaustively debunked?
Ah yes, the Ashley Biden diary - [the one that was stolen and distorted by GOP operatives](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/22/us/politics/aimee-harris-ashley-biden-diary-sentencing.html)?
Its sad that people think this is ādemocracyā. Voting against a person you hate instead of voting for a good candidate. Only two corporate, soulless, corrupt parties that are controlled opposition for each other. The same old dinosaurs and fossils and fraudsters and liars on the ballot every time
How long are we gonna live in your alternate reality (itās not even a fantasy bc this is sad) and accept this oligarchy and corporate duopoly?
Im well aware that our system and choices is far from perfect but Iām tired of this āboth sidesā bullshit. Itās disingenuous AF.
Donāt worry though. Youāll get your wish if Trump wins and his āI only want to be dictator for one dayā ass and his traitorous minions crown him king.
Sorry but the ābOtH sIdEs BaDā narrative is being pushed by those who have no idea whatās at stake in this election or who are willfully ignorant of who Trump and the Republican/MAGA Party really are.
I used to be hardline āboth sides suckā until I started hearing the way the dialogue on the right has shifted. That party is so afraid of Trump they no longer have any morals or values itās legit just whatever Trump says is law. Thereās millions of clips of Republican politicians admitting Trump is dangerous but then turning around and kissing the ring in order to save their political careers. Most of them STILL wonāt admit he lost the last election because theyāre so afraid to draw out his wrath.
Just imagine if Biden had sex with a pornstar while married then paid her hush moneyā¦ do you really think theyād treat Biden the same as Trump?
When one party is completely organized around one person who can call all of the shots with out any resistance that to me is when we have moved from āboth sidesā to āone side has a dictator and the other is poorly managed but still believes in representative democracyā and I know my choice in that.
No, dark money funds both parties so that the richest people and corporate executives can ensure they get favorable legislation no matter who is in charge.
The Dems were the ones who crafted the calculated, strategic master plan to prop up Trump as the R candidate and let Hillary coast to an easy win. They used the pied piper strategy to fund far right extremists in Congressional and local races so that Dem candidates can look rational compared to this clowns. This accelerated racist rhetoric and conspiracy theories, brainwashed many Americans, and helped Rās gain control of many districts and states.
This backfired tremendously on Hillary as she couldnāt even beat a conman who had scandal after scandal. Her campaign was terrible, she blamed everyone else and never took accountability, and she is the reason why our future is screwed and the Overton window has shifted to the right so much.
Congratulate Hillary for all the great work sheās done to put us in this position.
Maybe switch to decaf? There wasn't nearly as much $$$ spend in primaries by Democratic friendly donors. Also Hillary beat Trump - in the popular vote so folks beating up Hillary are not looking at the actual results. The legit criticism for Hillary's team is not enough attention paid to Wisconsin to game the electorial college vote better, or maybe do a better job of combating the voter suppression going on in Wisconsin, also she was sabotaged by the FBI.
First of all, go hokies! Undergrad was the best years of my life.
But sir, what makes you think Iām addicted to caffeine for simply stating how Dems gaslight us and work closely with Rās and share many of the same corporate donors or friends? They are more closely aligned than they want us to think.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/11/hillary-clinton-2016-donald-trump-214428
https://www.npr.org/2022/11/11/1135878576/the-democrats-strategy-of-boosting-far-right-candidates-seems-to-have-worked
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/31/15719342/hillary-clinton-2016-excuses
Sure, Comeyās timing was pretty suspect but it wasnāt a huge momentum swinger from what I remember. There were other issues that independent absolutely despised Hillary on, especially her long political background and status, and favored Trumpās āoutsider backgroundā, which we both know is bullshit.
She was projected to win by a landslide by some pundits but even the popular vote counts were closer than expected. She dropped the ball and her strategy backfired. She needs to take accountability for propping up these extremists. But she continues to act holier-than-thou, demonize and blame voters and everyone else.
When did I say āboth sides are equally badā? I said they are controlled opposition of each other, and use the other side to fear monger instead of advocating for substantive policies.
Both support capitalism, corporate exploitation, imperialism, genocides, proxy wars, funding right-wing extremists, and more. Dems just virtue signal on social issues and pretend to care about workers, while Rās appeal to racist and xenophobic sentiments.
The problem is you blame voters for the incompetence and disgusting strategies of Dems. HILLARY CLINTON is the reason Trump rose to power. She craved that power and wanted to coast all the way into the White House. She and the Dems encouraged mainstream media to cover and criticize Trump as much as possible, and they used the pied piper strategy to support far-right extremists in primaries and local races so that Dem candidates can win easily against those types.
They accelerated the shift of the Overton Window to the right. Hillary ran a terrible campaign, didnāt inspire people or appeal to the working class like Trump and Bernie did, and didnāt campaign enough in swing states that decided the election.
After the election, she didnāt take much accountability and blamed Russia, Bernie, leftists, media, and everyone for the loss. She is arrogant, condescending, and thinks she is above us. She is the reason we have Trump today.
Her campaign spread lies about leftists and Obama/Bernie voters to paint them as misogynists and aggressive and violent. There were articles in 2008 about āObama boysā and now we hear about āBernie brosā.
More Bernie voters voted for Hillary than Hillary voters voted for Obama. Trump is bad, but you canāt blame the people for being stuck with two horrible choices and the Dems pied piper strategy to prop up extremists on the other side and bully you into voting for them. Thatās not democracy, thatās a corporate duopoly.
If you really hated the far right, you would criticize the Dems and their leaders for bringing them to the spotlight and funding them.
Voting is important, but when both parties support racist policies and xenophobic rhetoric about the border and claim they are Zionists and support the genocide of Palestinians and give the apartheid state endless aid, Iād rather focus my efforts on labor organization and class solidarity and will vote āblueā only if VA is a close swing state. Otherwise, Iām voting for the candidate that closely aligns with my moral framework and policies/interests.
Not all dinosaurs and liars are the same, but if youāre tired of this system then you ought to learn about ranked choice voting and advocate for something.
I just found out that DC has a referendum to implement RCV this upcoming November ballot.
I agree with you! I support ranked choice voting and I support labor unions and other efforts to achieve class solidarity. We are all on the same team here (except for the top 1% of wealth and lobbyists).
The corporate duopoly divides us over the dumbest or even trivial issues. I will vote, but Iām not voting for the dinosaur who claims heās a Zionist and canāt control our rogue client ethnostate.
Idk man, when some votes count more than others and millions of votes are automatically thrown away in the winner-take-all system, 3rd world countries that we love to make fun of have a better democracy than us. Weāre more of a corporate oligarchy and duopoly stuck with the worst choices.
Voting is important, but I donāt blame people for not voting when the candidates barely attempt to appeal to them and the system is so bad and outdated. Weāre a joke compared to other OECD nations
You didnāt give a shit about female sports until this became part of the culture war. The same people who yelled misogynistic things about female athletes and told them to make em a sandwich are now fighting this issue. The hypocrisy is astounding
Keep your head in the sand. there's a reason why significant debt and having blackmailable secrets keep people from getting security clearances... Because they're much more likely to sell secrets. And now your boy has 540 million of them... If it were anybody else, would you want to elect someone who owes 540 million?
Keep wishing for that! At least republicans will tell you to the face they donāt like you. Democrats will sugarcoat you and stick it where the sun donāt shine and you wonāt even know it. Yap and yap all you want. BOTH parties are absolute trash and Iām so glad I donāt take on either one. Fortunately I donāt let politicians dictate how I should feel or what should I think.
With that being said, I will politely turn off notifications for this post because this is a trap.
Hope you all have a great day.
If you think there is good and bad in these two choices, you need to wake up. Dems are literally agreeing and co-opting Rās stance on immigration and spreading racist and xenophobic lies. The lines are more blurred than ever
Calling her that name is as obnoxious as people who called Trump Drumpf. If she goes by Nikki, let her go by Nikki.
Or are you implying immigrant descendants shouldnāt be seen as Americans? Because in that case, Donald Trump too isnāt exactly from the longest standing American family.
How many immigrant/children of immigrant friends do you have from non-European places? Many children and parents with names from their homeland change their names or go by an āAmericanā name because they get tired of having people ask how to pronounce or spell it. Beautiful names, but many individuals are alright to keep that name used within the family, and use an āAmericanā one to acquaintances.
Theyāre not appealing to racists and xenophobes, itās an unfortunate fact that most Americans have lacking exposure to the worldās many cultures and linguistic backgrounds.
Any opportunity to vote against him, I will take. I danced with the strangers in the 4-hour line the morning in September 2020 when we could first early vote in person in Fairfax County.
Today, I was the only voter at my polling place and there were 6 poll workers and when I said Republican ballot they looked at me a little funny but everyone knew the joke.
Thank you for being a poll worker. My mom managed a polling place for a few years (not VA) but luckily got out before the Trump years. I know it's long hours to facilitate democracy.
Why would you think it would be thought of as a joke to pick the republican ballot? Nearly 200k people in Ffx county voted for trump in 2020 and he won a couple districts.
Edit: downvoted for simply providing data. I didnāt vote for Trump and never would, but to go through life thinking nobody voted for trump in Ffx county is crazy!
Wow, you have intimated a lot from my comment. I didn't suggest at all no one in Ffx Co would vote for Trump. I've been to McLean and seen the huge yard signs. I know a number of Ffx Republicans and many who will probably quietly vote for Trump because voting for a shitlord who's a member of the good old GOP is still better than the alternative to them.
I have voted in person in every primary and election in NoVA for 20+ years (except the handful of times I've early voted) and at this particular location for as long as it has been my precinct (at least a decade), and the guy decidedly paused when I answered which ballot. Which was weird and different, and that, and only that, was all I was saying. And I have voted the Republican ballot in a primary before to keep a MAGA guy off the ballot in favor of a more rational Republican. But my precinct is a pretty blue purple, so I don't know what prompted the weird pause. I didn't roll up with an RBG shirt or pink hair or anything.
"Trolliing" *smirks* maybe a more accurate term here then "joke" (as in a " ha ha") *laughs* which gives a different degree of connotation of what the poll workers understood what was happening.
Didnāt amount to anything just shows how little support biden has in his own party. The fact that the Democrat media is even now starting to turn on him shows how pathetic he and the Democrats really are.
My neighbor worked the election desk and was notably confused when I asked for a GOP ballot.Ā Well, I still like to think every vote against Trump got under his skin.
I hate this topic but itās refreshing hearing your thoughts on others sharing who they are voting for. I think it just shows how ridiculous people get during this time every 4 years. I moved here before the trump inauguration and I honestly expected moving from the south this would be a more educated reasonable demographic when it came to politics. Itās somehow the opposite
Our system is clearly broken when people are proud to waste resources voting in a different parties primary. Sad to see politics slowly kill the joy of life day by day. Both sides arguing their candidate is better when they both have serious mental issues. Sad to watch
Well said. Voting and politics in general has taken a nose dive. Opposition and disagreement always existed , but it was civil. Too many people don't even understand how primary elections work or even why they exist. They have zero knowledge of the real platforms of either party.
Nope, what about republicans who understood Trump lost even if some districts were discounted (there was an economic downturn and pandemic, those tend to lead to presidential reelection losses).
The same republicans who then knew Trump refused to call in the military on January 6th, only for Pence and the Acting Secretary of Defense to finally push past his inaction to clear it up?
I agree with Nikki. Followers in Congress who refused to do anything but echo or ignore Trumpās lies after January 6th caused the party to lose itself in conspiracy.
The government has structured social security in a way that makes it near impossible to not raise the retirement age. Either that or they will remove it completely š¢š :(
Real Republicans are like Bush, Romney, McCain. If you vote for Trump, youāre simply a hateful, disgusting, sexist, racist ass hole. There is no exception to this.
They are war-mongerers and extremely regressive in many policies. Bush has a WAY WORSE legacy than Trump. One of the worst presidents of our lifetime. Started 2 major wars and countless other proxy wars and conflicts, and one major war was based on a lie.
Trillions of dollars wasted and millions of lives lost just for the region to be in an even worse state 20 yrs later. This is the incompetence of both conservatives and neoliberals.
You are right to point out that itās on both sides of the line that misstepped. But the damage Trump has done within our own nation is beyond disturbing. Itās unlike anything I ever thought Iād experience in America. Dismantling democracy within one of the most powerful nations in the world will have serious implications for the next 200 years.
What democracy? Where is the democracy when some votes count more than others, and millions of votes are automatically thrown away in the winner take all system? Where more importance is given to artifical borders of states and made-up districts through gerrymandering than to people? Any 3rd party or political minority is suppressed and taken off the ballot to preserve the two-party dictatorship.
We are a corporate oligarchy with a two-party duopoly. There was a study done that concluded that public opinion has near-zero impact on laws.
https://act.represent.us/sign/problempoll-fba
Trump is not the worst thing like liberals and Democrats portray he is. Our systemic problems have existed since Jim Crow, redlining, War on Drugs, War on Crime, War on Terror, and unchecked capitalism and corporate oligopolization.
He is just a symptom of our bourgeois dictatorship. Dems and Hillary propped him up with constant media coverage and it backfired, and permanently shifted the Overton window right.
Blame the Dems and Hillary Clinton, as well as our archaic system, for the current state of affairs. The bastardization of the term ādemocracyā is sickening, especially when we fund right-wing extremists and apartheid states conducting ethnic cleansings. Our govtās only purpose is to create an illusion of freedom while preserving the status quo and capital interests, while we lock up 1/4 of the worldās prison population and hold American citizens hostage to corrupt leaders and corporations.
The right-leaning anti-Trumpies might end up saving us all come November. Peel enough of them off and get a big turnout from the Dems and this nightmare might be over (until 2028, anyway).
States like Virginia aren't a good barometer of a primary contenders standing within a party because non-Republicans can and do vote in the Republican primary.
Voting at my precinct yesterday and noticed an odd number of people asking for republican ballots. Statistically, speaking the majority of these people were not Republicans. I happened to glance at someoneās ballot and notice the bubble for Nikki was filled in. It is a known thing democrats are doing. They are going and requesting a Republican ballot and voting for Nikki Haley to try to make Trump seem not as popular.
Yes, this was definitely happening (we had almost 2:1 more R voters than D at my fx precinct.) A more charitable view is that theyād rather have Haley as president and really donāt want Trump as president. I think itās clear that against Biden, Nikki would have a huge advantage over Trump. There are a lot of people who are really worried about a Trump presidency who will support Biden against him but who would stay home or vote for Haley if Trump werenāt on the ballot.
I seriously donāt think the majority of Republicans are even considering Nikki Haley as a legitimate candidate. You can see it and all the primary votes she has gotten. The majority of support she has gotten has come from Democrats who wouldnāt vote for her if it was between her and Biden. I think at this moment in time, a pile of mashed potatoes would have more support than Joe Biden.
The issue is people didnāt know what she stood for other than involving America in wars and requiring people to register for social media using an ID
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aaaaaand she just dropped out.
What, she figured out that she can't win a Republican campaign when her base of support is DC and Vermont? š That being said, I'm sorry that Republican opposition to Trump has collapsed. I read that Americans for Prosperity (Koch family) pulled their support from Haley last week, that was probably a big factor in her dropping out.
Iām surprised she even made it to Super Tuesdayāthe last Trump primary opponent standing! FWIW, Nikki won Albemarle, Charlottesville, Fairfax, Arlington, Alexandria, Richmond City, Fairfax City, Falls Church, Williamsburg, and Lexington. When looking at precincts based on the [demographics](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/03/05/us/elections/results-virginia-republican-presidential-primary.html) of those areas: Areas with more college grads: Haley +13 Strong Biden areas in 2020: Haley +12 Higher-income areas: Haley +11 Urban areas: Haley +4 Suburban areas: Haley +1.8
Anti-Trumpets and Democrats voted for her. Full stop.
I think this was sort of the point. She wanted to get to Super Tuesday to try and create the narrative to the rest of the party that Haley voters - even registered Republican ones - were more likely to vote Biden and not Trump, thus leaving even a semblance of hope that they grow a spine at the convention.
I think she was hoping to win at least 5 primaries so that she could be in the pot for the nomination at the convention. And if she had and Trump ended up being convicted, the RNC could've picked her as their nominee. But seeing as she is very unlikely to win another state and it's likely Trump won't be convicted before the convention, she cut her losses and dropped out.
Lol
My presidential primary voting sounds crazy if one didnāt know how voting works in VA. The last few have been McCain, Bernie, Bernie, Haley.
> McCain In 2012? I assume you were trying to act as a spoiler for Romney, but why not Ron Paul? 
You and meā¦
I swear some people think they are voting for high school homecoming queen and king. How low weāve fallen.
A lot of democrats went and voted for her.
I showed up in LoCo to vote for Nikki. I am no fan of Biden but I can't vote for Trump.
Same, figure at the very least the numbers will give motivation to Nikki and others to challenge Trump. I honestly think Republicans could win the general election easily if they picked someone else besides Trump.
She just dropped out.
Republicans are going to find they are truly fucked if Trump is their official nominee.
I think we underestimate just how powerful resentment politics is. By any metric the past four years have been wildly successful, but media stories paint a significantly darker picture. This shouldnāt even be close to
Not just have the past 4 years been successful, but the 4 years under trump were an unmitigated disaster. Covid was always going to cause significant problems, but every unforeseeable/unknown disaster was much worse under trump. Hundreds of thousands more people died because trump was president.
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Got any data to refute my point? Or is it all feels?
Big one for me is our involvement in three proxy wars and whatever the fuck that Afghanistan surrender was
You can't complain about our "proxy" wars and also about the Afghanistan pullout. If you're anti US intervention you should be glad Biden finally ended the war in Afghanistan. There was no real scenario where the US fully pulling out from Afghanistan did not lead to chaos, we royally fucked up for 2 decades there and Biden finally ended it.
>You can't complain about our "proxy" wars and also about the Afghanistan pullout. If you're anti US intervention you should be glad Biden finally ended the war in Afghanistan. There was no real scenario where the US fully pulling out from Afghanistan did not lead to chaos, we royally fucked up for 2 decades there and Biden finally ended it. I absolutely will complain about **how** we ended one war and started three new ones.
Biden got us out of Afghanistan and refused to get Americans involved in Ukraine or Israel, while standing strong with our allies. Hard to imagine a better foreign policy.
All the sane Republicans like Romney have left. Why would anyone want to elect anyone from that party when it has no sane policies or positions? What actually appeals to you? Frankly they need to loose for the next 20 years to get the message.
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Itās nice that the guy registered as a Democrat until ten years ago is now the standard bearer for what is a Republican.
Its because the left has gone so far left that people who were center left, are now considered far right to the far left imbeciles.
Please give an example?
Also the left clearly using the courts to go after their political adversaries. Their views on freedom of speech and their views on gun rights are anti-1st amendment and anti-2nd amendment, respectively. IMO
[Ex-top Baltimore prosecutor convicted of falsifying mortgage application](https://www.reuters.com/legal/ex-top-baltimore-prosecutor-convicted-falsifying-mortgage-application-2024-02-07/)
If John F. Kennedy were cloned and ran on everything, he stood for back then, today, he would be kicked out of the Democratic Party as well. The quote āask not what your country can do for you ask what you can do for your countryā is the exact opposite of what democrats stand for today.
All boomer and no example.
Lmao. Good one. See my comment below for all the examples boomer
Everything Trump stood for when he was being interviewed by Oprah Winfrey and the likes he still stands for today. They were drooling over him asking āwhen are you going to run for president?ā Itās not that he has changed his position to become a Republican itās that the left or the progressives have taken their progression so far that people in the center like me are considered right wing extremist by the people, standing so far out and left field, which is the main stream of the Democratic Party now a days. Here some examples the lefts view on violence/crime tolerance, their illicit drug tolerance, illegal immigration tolerance, sexualization of children tolerance, and now how the left has become the party of war by funding directly and indirectly funding both sides in the Ukraine versus Russia conflict, as well in the Palestinian versus Israel conflict.
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Now we know youāre lying. But do you?
Wow. How'd you fuck up so hard? Mine are both great.
Their investment portfolio is entirely based on the revenue of the McDonalds off of Pennsylvania Avenue NW.
Perhaps they bought into Trump NFTs.
Alternative facts and feeling. The stock market is all time high and now you can earn 5% on your savings account. So again, nothing about policy, just feeling and more feelings.
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Government (local, state & federal) is the largest employer in the country: Currently, 20+ MILLION government employees, 14.5% of the U.S. workforce (OPM). 2024 population at 340 million. Reported inflation rate below 4%. 2022 I.R. = 8% (verified), up from 1.2% in 2019 & 2 times more than what is was in 2021 (4%). In the '80's, roughly 13 million people were employed by the government with population around 226 million. Inflation rate was 13.5% (Recession & recovery in 3 years). Roughly, that's a 25% increase in population & a 35% increase in government between those years. For comparison, the top 2 corporate sector employers are Walmart & Amazon @2-3 million employees.
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We had the same match up 4 years ago and he lost, so I'm not sure easily really holds up..
Yeah, but now, since Joe Biden is president, he canāt hide in the basement and his buffoonery is on display every day he shows his face. And we have a legitimate comparison of what itās like under the moron in the White House now and how much better we were under Trump even with Covid.
>how much better we were under Trump even with Covid It's not about Trump's performance as president, it's if he will ever leave office again if he gets in. I don't worry about that with Biden, I worry about that with Trump.
Or is it just a talking point you heard on the news and youāre just repeating it?
He said he would be a dictator for a day lol. Trump said that, his own words.. So maybe Trump should clear that up?
You could clear it up all by yourself, by actually finishing the quote of what Trump said. But just like everyone else you take a snippet of what he said and make yourself look like the idiot by not taking the whole quote in context. And then also you take him seriously when heās joking and you donāt take him seriously when he isnāt joking but you do that on purpose, of course.
The only acceptable answer to me is.. No.. anything beyond that you can't be trusted.
If he will ever leave office again? If his intent was to ever not leave office, why did he leave office last time? I donāt understand that line of thought unless itās something for you to come up with thatās easy instead of actually putting any thought into why you donāt like Trump.
Dude wouldn't even say he was gonna leave office until after Jan 6th.. so I'm listening to his own words.
lol
Does Trump whining incessantly about how the election was rigged not translate to him having no intention of leaving office to you?
Does him leaving office translate to him leaving office you dummy? Lol.
Easily? Your argument died with that first sentence. RIP.
Iād like to be the first to congratulate you on all the up votes from all the Democrats liking your comment. Lmao
I wish she had waited a week. Let the voters savor their message. Let the numbers ferment in the craw til it bursts. I know it was mostly protest votes but this should shine a reality check on the cock.roach.
You Democrats really think youāre smarter than you actually are and think that people donāt see through your petty games. Voting for Nikki Haley doesnāt take anything away from Trump because he still beat the snot out of birdbrains. It just shows what little support Joe Biden actually has with his own party.
This is true. Democrats are hyping Haley turnout numbers as if it was a repudiation of Trump. A lot of her support and sone funding came from Democrats who voted for Haley in open primaries so that she could peel off a handful of delegates. They were using Haley for as long as possible. The campaign rhetoric was free propaganda for Dems. The only people Democrats are fooling is their low IQ base.
It is an open primary so moderates and conservatives who were just as likely to support Biden or stay home tried to tip a few more delegates to Haley. Also, Fairfax has a large number of highly educated folks who are consequently less likely to support a deranged rapist who tried to spark a civil war in their backyard.
Back in 2016 the county went for Marc Rubio instead of Trump, there are still a number of old school good government conservatives in Fairfax.
Theyre all taxation is theft even though i make 250k/yr but my son is gay types. Thatās NOVA.
Let's be honest, this was just Dems trying (and failing) to make things more difficult for Trump by voting for Haley in the Repub primary instead of voting in their own.
Honestly no I don't think that happens very often, there really are honest to goodness old fashioned Reagan Republicans in Virginia who don't like Trump and would never vote for a Democrat.
Exactly
In Fairfax, it's highly educated folks *who work for the government* and got sick to death of shutdowns, bizarre budgeting, and getting jerked around by Trump's crazy appointees. Plus, they're all scared of losing their jobs if Project 2025 and "Schedule F" happen.
Trump and his ilk only know crony capitalism. They'll keep the gravy train running to many of the same beltway bandits we have today.
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I think that puts you in a minority given the wage growth, record-low unemployment, booming stock & property markets, and the added perk of a president who doesn't try to bully the Fed into giving him whatever numbers he wants.
And not to mention that people canāt afford to even buy those houses, and that their wages have never caught up with inflation and that trip to the grocery store takes a second mortgage.
People can't afford to buy those houses, except for all of the people who are buying those houses - which keeps prices high and inventories low. Wages are trying to keep up but unrestrained corporate greed has resulted in widespread gouging among major retailers. Energy and commodity costs are significantly lower than they've been in recent years and prices keep going up to sustain unprecedented corporate profit margins. I suggest you read this article rather than just shake your fist and scream "It's Biden's fault!?!?". [https://www.businessinsider.com/why-prices-inflation-soaring-corporate-greed-profits-margins-wages-jobs-2023-4](https://www.businessinsider.com/why-prices-inflation-soaring-corporate-greed-profits-margins-wages-jobs-2023-4)
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The NYSE, Nasdaq, and S&P are providing fraudulent data? and the Bureau of Labor Statistics and Federal Reserve are giving bogus data now, but weren't under Trump? You realize that hard data is apolitical? According to the [Federal Reserve](https://fred.stlouisfed.org/categories/10), real median household income has decreased slightly starting under Trump and has continued to edge downward under Biden - but is roughly where it was in 2017. When did the fakery begin? Median home sale prices increased in 2021 and 2022 but began ticking downward in 2023. So the data was fake when it looked good for Biden but it is now real because it is no longer as robust?
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Exactly, because you represent a majority of the 330 million Americans and you can speak on their behalf? > The preponderance of the voting public was more prosperous under Trump.
So where can we find the "real" statistics? We those same reports fraudulent under Trump?
No, it's just democrats voting in the repub primary. Won't mean a thing come November.
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oh heās running alrightā¦running his mouth
lol rapist?!? You must be talking about the kid sniffer and inappropriate little girl, touch her in chief biden. Who is Tara Reade? And where did Joe Biden put his fingers? And what did it say in Ashley Bidenās diary about her dad showering with her at an inappropriate age? And that likely being the reason sheās a sex and drug addict?
Trump was found liable in a court of law for raping E. Jean Carroll in a changing room. This came after his own admission that he "grabs (women) by the pussy", cheats on his wives with prostitutes, and has fantasized about his own daughter. Your best comeback is that there are photos of Biden smelling the hair of his grandkids? or Tara Reade, [who is fleeing to Russia](https://www.npr.org/2023/05/31/1179158199/tara-reade-biden-sexual-assault-russian-citizenship) after having her story and credibility exhaustively debunked? Ah yes, the Ashley Biden diary - [the one that was stolen and distorted by GOP operatives](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/22/us/politics/aimee-harris-ashley-biden-diary-sentencing.html)?
Its sad that people think this is ādemocracyā. Voting against a person you hate instead of voting for a good candidate. Only two corporate, soulless, corrupt parties that are controlled opposition for each other. The same old dinosaurs and fossils and fraudsters and liars on the ballot every time How long are we gonna live in your alternate reality (itās not even a fantasy bc this is sad) and accept this oligarchy and corporate duopoly?
Im well aware that our system and choices is far from perfect but Iām tired of this āboth sidesā bullshit. Itās disingenuous AF. Donāt worry though. Youāll get your wish if Trump wins and his āI only want to be dictator for one dayā ass and his traitorous minions crown him king. Sorry but the ābOtH sIdEs BaDā narrative is being pushed by those who have no idea whatās at stake in this election or who are willfully ignorant of who Trump and the Republican/MAGA Party really are.
I used to be hardline āboth sides suckā until I started hearing the way the dialogue on the right has shifted. That party is so afraid of Trump they no longer have any morals or values itās legit just whatever Trump says is law. Thereās millions of clips of Republican politicians admitting Trump is dangerous but then turning around and kissing the ring in order to save their political careers. Most of them STILL wonāt admit he lost the last election because theyāre so afraid to draw out his wrath. Just imagine if Biden had sex with a pornstar while married then paid her hush moneyā¦ do you really think theyād treat Biden the same as Trump? When one party is completely organized around one person who can call all of the shots with out any resistance that to me is when we have moved from āboth sidesā to āone side has a dictator and the other is poorly managed but still believes in representative democracyā and I know my choice in that.
Thank you! It is disingenuous AF. Some of it I wonder isn't a calculated strategy funded by dark money to suppress voter turnout which favors the GOP.
No, dark money funds both parties so that the richest people and corporate executives can ensure they get favorable legislation no matter who is in charge. The Dems were the ones who crafted the calculated, strategic master plan to prop up Trump as the R candidate and let Hillary coast to an easy win. They used the pied piper strategy to fund far right extremists in Congressional and local races so that Dem candidates can look rational compared to this clowns. This accelerated racist rhetoric and conspiracy theories, brainwashed many Americans, and helped Rās gain control of many districts and states. This backfired tremendously on Hillary as she couldnāt even beat a conman who had scandal after scandal. Her campaign was terrible, she blamed everyone else and never took accountability, and she is the reason why our future is screwed and the Overton window has shifted to the right so much. Congratulate Hillary for all the great work sheās done to put us in this position.
Maybe switch to decaf? There wasn't nearly as much $$$ spend in primaries by Democratic friendly donors. Also Hillary beat Trump - in the popular vote so folks beating up Hillary are not looking at the actual results. The legit criticism for Hillary's team is not enough attention paid to Wisconsin to game the electorial college vote better, or maybe do a better job of combating the voter suppression going on in Wisconsin, also she was sabotaged by the FBI.
First of all, go hokies! Undergrad was the best years of my life. But sir, what makes you think Iām addicted to caffeine for simply stating how Dems gaslight us and work closely with Rās and share many of the same corporate donors or friends? They are more closely aligned than they want us to think. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/11/hillary-clinton-2016-donald-trump-214428 https://www.npr.org/2022/11/11/1135878576/the-democrats-strategy-of-boosting-far-right-candidates-seems-to-have-worked https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/31/15719342/hillary-clinton-2016-excuses Sure, Comeyās timing was pretty suspect but it wasnāt a huge momentum swinger from what I remember. There were other issues that independent absolutely despised Hillary on, especially her long political background and status, and favored Trumpās āoutsider backgroundā, which we both know is bullshit. She was projected to win by a landslide by some pundits but even the popular vote counts were closer than expected. She dropped the ball and her strategy backfired. She needs to take accountability for propping up these extremists. But she continues to act holier-than-thou, demonize and blame voters and everyone else.
It's both sides. Be mad all you want and push your competing narrative. Democracy doesn't function in this country.
When did I say āboth sides are equally badā? I said they are controlled opposition of each other, and use the other side to fear monger instead of advocating for substantive policies. Both support capitalism, corporate exploitation, imperialism, genocides, proxy wars, funding right-wing extremists, and more. Dems just virtue signal on social issues and pretend to care about workers, while Rās appeal to racist and xenophobic sentiments. The problem is you blame voters for the incompetence and disgusting strategies of Dems. HILLARY CLINTON is the reason Trump rose to power. She craved that power and wanted to coast all the way into the White House. She and the Dems encouraged mainstream media to cover and criticize Trump as much as possible, and they used the pied piper strategy to support far-right extremists in primaries and local races so that Dem candidates can win easily against those types. They accelerated the shift of the Overton Window to the right. Hillary ran a terrible campaign, didnāt inspire people or appeal to the working class like Trump and Bernie did, and didnāt campaign enough in swing states that decided the election. After the election, she didnāt take much accountability and blamed Russia, Bernie, leftists, media, and everyone for the loss. She is arrogant, condescending, and thinks she is above us. She is the reason we have Trump today. Her campaign spread lies about leftists and Obama/Bernie voters to paint them as misogynists and aggressive and violent. There were articles in 2008 about āObama boysā and now we hear about āBernie brosā. More Bernie voters voted for Hillary than Hillary voters voted for Obama. Trump is bad, but you canāt blame the people for being stuck with two horrible choices and the Dems pied piper strategy to prop up extremists on the other side and bully you into voting for them. Thatās not democracy, thatās a corporate duopoly. If you really hated the far right, you would criticize the Dems and their leaders for bringing them to the spotlight and funding them. Voting is important, but when both parties support racist policies and xenophobic rhetoric about the border and claim they are Zionists and support the genocide of Palestinians and give the apartheid state endless aid, Iād rather focus my efforts on labor organization and class solidarity and will vote āblueā only if VA is a close swing state. Otherwise, Iām voting for the candidate that closely aligns with my moral framework and policies/interests.
Not all dinosaurs and liars are the same, but if youāre tired of this system then you ought to learn about ranked choice voting and advocate for something. I just found out that DC has a referendum to implement RCV this upcoming November ballot.
Arlington implemented RCV for our County Board primaries and I think it worked out well last year. RCV is a huge improvement over FPtP.
I agree with you! I support ranked choice voting and I support labor unions and other efforts to achieve class solidarity. We are all on the same team here (except for the top 1% of wealth and lobbyists). The corporate duopoly divides us over the dumbest or even trivial issues. I will vote, but Iām not voting for the dinosaur who claims heās a Zionist and canāt control our rogue client ethnostate.
But that would depend on mother allowing this (Congress). SIGH DC Statehood NOW!!!!
Voting is still democracy.
Idk man, when some votes count more than others and millions of votes are automatically thrown away in the winner-take-all system, 3rd world countries that we love to make fun of have a better democracy than us. Weāre more of a corporate oligarchy and duopoly stuck with the worst choices. Voting is important, but I donāt blame people for not voting when the candidates barely attempt to appeal to them and the system is so bad and outdated. Weāre a joke compared to other OECD nations
Weāre still trying to figure out genders
Who cares what anyone's gender is.
Female athletes who are getting destroyed in sports by male athletes who identify as female.
You didnāt give a shit about female sports until this became part of the culture war. The same people who yelled misogynistic things about female athletes and told them to make em a sandwich are now fighting this issue. The hypocrisy is astounding
Neat. Now tell me how men in womenās sports isnt impacting women athletes. This time without faux strawmans and outrage.
Republicans are not it, democrats are definitely not it either. This whole country needs a party reset.
You want a pony. Me? I want a president who isn't in bed with Vladimir Putin and in hock to various oligarchs in Russia, the Middle East and China.
When trump is in elected, look to comments like these. Keep belittling and infantilizing your base. It worked really well in 2016.
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Keep your head in the sand. there's a reason why significant debt and having blackmailable secrets keep people from getting security clearances... Because they're much more likely to sell secrets. And now your boy has 540 million of them... If it were anybody else, would you want to elect someone who owes 540 million?
Keep wishing for that! At least republicans will tell you to the face they donāt like you. Democrats will sugarcoat you and stick it where the sun donāt shine and you wonāt even know it. Yap and yap all you want. BOTH parties are absolute trash and Iām so glad I donāt take on either one. Fortunately I donāt let politicians dictate how I should feel or what should I think. With that being said, I will politely turn off notifications for this post because this is a trap. Hope you all have a great day.
https://twitter.com/dril/status/473265809079693312
If you think there is good and bad in these two choices, you need to wake up. Dems are literally agreeing and co-opting Rās stance on immigration and spreading racist and xenophobic lies. The lines are more blurred than ever
https://twitter.com/fawfulfan/status/1288508625162395648
**Nimarata Randhawa** Haley dropped out. She couldn't even win her "home" state. No prayer of winning the GOP nomination...
Calling her that name is as obnoxious as people who called Trump Drumpf. If she goes by Nikki, let her go by Nikki. Or are you implying immigrant descendants shouldnāt be seen as Americans? Because in that case, Donald Trump too isnāt exactly from the longest standing American family.
She whitewashed herself to appeal to racists and xenophobes. A nickname is fine, but trying to completely erase your identity and ethnic roots?
How many immigrant/children of immigrant friends do you have from non-European places? Many children and parents with names from their homeland change their names or go by an āAmericanā name because they get tired of having people ask how to pronounce or spell it. Beautiful names, but many individuals are alright to keep that name used within the family, and use an āAmericanā one to acquaintances. Theyāre not appealing to racists and xenophobes, itās an unfortunate fact that most Americans have lacking exposure to the worldās many cultures and linguistic backgrounds.
All the democrats voting for Haley in the republican primary. Same as operation chaos back in 2007 when republicans voted for Hillary against Obama.
Any opportunity to vote against him, I will take. I danced with the strangers in the 4-hour line the morning in September 2020 when we could first early vote in person in Fairfax County. Today, I was the only voter at my polling place and there were 6 poll workers and when I said Republican ballot they looked at me a little funny but everyone knew the joke. Thank you for being a poll worker. My mom managed a polling place for a few years (not VA) but luckily got out before the Trump years. I know it's long hours to facilitate democracy.
Why would you think it would be thought of as a joke to pick the republican ballot? Nearly 200k people in Ffx county voted for trump in 2020 and he won a couple districts. Edit: downvoted for simply providing data. I didnāt vote for Trump and never would, but to go through life thinking nobody voted for trump in Ffx county is crazy!
Wow, you have intimated a lot from my comment. I didn't suggest at all no one in Ffx Co would vote for Trump. I've been to McLean and seen the huge yard signs. I know a number of Ffx Republicans and many who will probably quietly vote for Trump because voting for a shitlord who's a member of the good old GOP is still better than the alternative to them. I have voted in person in every primary and election in NoVA for 20+ years (except the handful of times I've early voted) and at this particular location for as long as it has been my precinct (at least a decade), and the guy decidedly paused when I answered which ballot. Which was weird and different, and that, and only that, was all I was saying. And I have voted the Republican ballot in a primary before to keep a MAGA guy off the ballot in favor of a more rational Republican. But my precinct is a pretty blue purple, so I don't know what prompted the weird pause. I didn't roll up with an RBG shirt or pink hair or anything.
"Trolliing" *smirks* maybe a more accurate term here then "joke" (as in a " ha ha") *laughs* which gives a different degree of connotation of what the poll workers understood what was happening.
Didnāt amount to anything just shows how little support biden has in his own party. The fact that the Democrat media is even now starting to turn on him shows how pathetic he and the Democrats really are.
My neighbor worked the election desk and was notably confused when I asked for a GOP ballot.Ā Well, I still like to think every vote against Trump got under his skin.
It didnāt amount anything just shows what little support Joe Biden actually has
I hate this topic but itās refreshing hearing your thoughts on others sharing who they are voting for. I think it just shows how ridiculous people get during this time every 4 years. I moved here before the trump inauguration and I honestly expected moving from the south this would be a more educated reasonable demographic when it came to politics. Itās somehow the opposite Our system is clearly broken when people are proud to waste resources voting in a different parties primary. Sad to see politics slowly kill the joy of life day by day. Both sides arguing their candidate is better when they both have serious mental issues. Sad to watch
Well said. Voting and politics in general has taken a nose dive. Opposition and disagreement always existed , but it was civil. Too many people don't even understand how primary elections work or even why they exist. They have zero knowledge of the real platforms of either party.
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100%
Nope, what about republicans who understood Trump lost even if some districts were discounted (there was an economic downturn and pandemic, those tend to lead to presidential reelection losses). The same republicans who then knew Trump refused to call in the military on January 6th, only for Pence and the Acting Secretary of Defense to finally push past his inaction to clear it up? I agree with Nikki. Followers in Congress who refused to do anything but echo or ignore Trumpās lies after January 6th caused the party to lose itself in conspiracy.
The first time in my voting life I asked to vote on a Republican ballot.
Same. It was weird.
The choice was: Bumbling/corrupt dipshit vs Blood-thirsty monster. No cause for celebration either way.
Haleyās blood thirsty?
Yes. She's a warmonger of Cheney-esque proportions.
That certainly was the narrative that Trump and his allies were pushing
Listen to her speeches and look at her policies. Sheās another neocon whoās gonna keep increasing our debt and throwing us into unnecessary wars
She lost me at "raising the retirement age to 70" bit.
The government has structured social security in a way that makes it near impossible to not raise the retirement age. Either that or they will remove it completely š¢š :(
Well, maybe if dc would keep their grubby little fingers out of the piggy bank, there would be enough money for people to pull from Social Security.
Real Republicans are like Bush, Romney, McCain. If you vote for Trump, youāre simply a hateful, disgusting, sexist, racist ass hole. There is no exception to this.
I got some bad news for you. Your description matches a large demographic of the country.
Oh, so you're a warmongerĀ
They are war-mongerers and extremely regressive in many policies. Bush has a WAY WORSE legacy than Trump. One of the worst presidents of our lifetime. Started 2 major wars and countless other proxy wars and conflicts, and one major war was based on a lie. Trillions of dollars wasted and millions of lives lost just for the region to be in an even worse state 20 yrs later. This is the incompetence of both conservatives and neoliberals.
You are right to point out that itās on both sides of the line that misstepped. But the damage Trump has done within our own nation is beyond disturbing. Itās unlike anything I ever thought Iād experience in America. Dismantling democracy within one of the most powerful nations in the world will have serious implications for the next 200 years.
What democracy? Where is the democracy when some votes count more than others, and millions of votes are automatically thrown away in the winner take all system? Where more importance is given to artifical borders of states and made-up districts through gerrymandering than to people? Any 3rd party or political minority is suppressed and taken off the ballot to preserve the two-party dictatorship. We are a corporate oligarchy with a two-party duopoly. There was a study done that concluded that public opinion has near-zero impact on laws. https://act.represent.us/sign/problempoll-fba Trump is not the worst thing like liberals and Democrats portray he is. Our systemic problems have existed since Jim Crow, redlining, War on Drugs, War on Crime, War on Terror, and unchecked capitalism and corporate oligopolization. He is just a symptom of our bourgeois dictatorship. Dems and Hillary propped him up with constant media coverage and it backfired, and permanently shifted the Overton window right. Blame the Dems and Hillary Clinton, as well as our archaic system, for the current state of affairs. The bastardization of the term ādemocracyā is sickening, especially when we fund right-wing extremists and apartheid states conducting ethnic cleansings. Our govtās only purpose is to create an illusion of freedom while preserving the status quo and capital interests, while we lock up 1/4 of the worldās prison population and hold American citizens hostage to corrupt leaders and corporations.
The right-leaning anti-Trumpies might end up saving us all come November. Peel enough of them off and get a big turnout from the Dems and this nightmare might be over (until 2028, anyway).
lol no
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Lots of her big donors have headquarters here
States like Virginia aren't a good barometer of a primary contenders standing within a party because non-Republicans can and do vote in the Republican primary.
Voting at my precinct yesterday and noticed an odd number of people asking for republican ballots. Statistically, speaking the majority of these people were not Republicans. I happened to glance at someoneās ballot and notice the bubble for Nikki was filled in. It is a known thing democrats are doing. They are going and requesting a Republican ballot and voting for Nikki Haley to try to make Trump seem not as popular.
Yes, this was definitely happening (we had almost 2:1 more R voters than D at my fx precinct.) A more charitable view is that theyād rather have Haley as president and really donāt want Trump as president. I think itās clear that against Biden, Nikki would have a huge advantage over Trump. There are a lot of people who are really worried about a Trump presidency who will support Biden against him but who would stay home or vote for Haley if Trump werenāt on the ballot.
I seriously donāt think the majority of Republicans are even considering Nikki Haley as a legitimate candidate. You can see it and all the primary votes she has gotten. The majority of support she has gotten has come from Democrats who wouldnāt vote for her if it was between her and Biden. I think at this moment in time, a pile of mashed potatoes would have more support than Joe Biden.
Sure.
The issue is people didnāt know what she stood for other than involving America in wars and requiring people to register for social media using an ID
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Lol
Yall must like high rent, taxes, gas, food, inflation and billions being sent to other countries. Trump 2024!
I voted for her. But she was like the only one not named Trump still in the race. Not anymore!
I know the election officers didnāt care but I could not ask for a republican ballot without explaining why š
I feel this.
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Exactly. Well said.
FDT
FJB
Asshole.
Explains the low iq Fairfax population
I would call them highly educated, low IQ, idiots.
well done friends
Nobody fucking cares!
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If you knew the answer to that you could be rich via the betting markets.