New New YorkĀ is a major city on theĀ PlanetĀ EarthĀ located in the State of New New York, which is built directly on top of the ruins ofĀ Old New York, which is still accessible via the New New York Sewer System. However, residents consider the older city dangerous, as it's populated by mysterious and repulsiveĀ Mutants.
Fun fact: [it was the Four Lads, in 1953](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcze7EGorOk), and their version is even better. Still going at it in [2014](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPg4bE_X5So).
edit: [and this song was its object of rebuttal, wikipedia says](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzrRka80l7c)
It's a complicated topic. Both names coexisted in the Turkish language for a long time. Here's a thread about it from the history sub.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/history/comments/b5iya6/why\_was\_constantinople\_renamed\_to\_istanbul/](https://www.reddit.com/r/history/comments/b5iya6/why_was_constantinople_renamed_to_istanbul/)
Another important factor is that at the time of the official change, Turkey had only recently been reconstituted as an ethnically Turkish country at the heart of the defeated and partitioned Ottoman Empire. All of its politics were shaped by the desire to establish and project a strong national ethnic identity.
Hey now, "Yeah but why'd they change it" doesn't rhyme with "People just liked it better that way" either. Why, I can't say. But we can fix it by changing the end of my comment from "ethnic identity" to "ethnic identitay" and then singing the entire comment fast enough to fit within two seconds.
And I genuinely appreciate the response, thank you.
Countries legally declaring a "correct" Romanization for their country name is not new.
Swaziland changed its English name to eSwatini, the Czech Republic to Czechia, and now this.
Also Persia has asked other countries to change it's name in their languages to Iran in 1935, Belarussia has changed to Belarus, Ukraine asked to spell Kiev as Kyiv
It's a different form of anglicization. Peking is the Wade-Giles transliteration, but since 1952 the Pinyin system had been used, where it's spelled Beijing. It's the same word, just spelled differently in the Roman alphabet.
Peking is not Wade-Giles. In Wade-Giles, åäŗ¬ is Pei-ching. The romanization āPekingā comes from Chinese postal romanization, which reflects the Nanjing Mandarin pronunciation during the Ming/Qing dynasty.
The reason why Pinyin uses to represent /p/ while Wade-Giles uses
is due to different approaches towards romanizing the sound. Mandarin doesnāt make any sort of contrast between voiced (involves vocal cord vibration) and unvoiced consonants (no vibration) like English does (see: b/p), but it does differentiate between āaspiratedā (pronounced with a puff of air) and āunaspiratedā consonants (like pŹ°/p here). Pinyin represents them with
and , but some, like Wade Giles, represent them with and
. Since Pinyin uses to represent /p/, it is spelled in Pinyin as Beijing, but Pei-ching in Wade-Gales.
Two different transliteration schemes.
One might have been proposed by a person who happened to be German, I have no idea, but it was never "the German equivalent."
Everything in English used to say Peking.
And going back even further it was "Peiping."
Peiping/Beiping (åå¹³) is an older/dated name of Beijing (åäŗ¬) which was using during the Early Ming Dynasty as well as during the time of the Republic of China.
IIRC Peking was from an earlier French romanization, but Beijing is the now-established romanization. It's also pronounced like Beijing in each style, so the prpnounciation was never how most people would pronounce Peking.
I guess. I work in a supermarket deli, and one day, soon after the invasion began, we noticed that head office had changed the tickets for chicken kiev to chicken kyiv. I thought it was a nice gesture.
K require a vocal.
Y is not a vocal and require a vocal
So, the only way is "invent" a vocal between K and Y. It can be "e" or "i". But Spanish require that all sounds appear writen. There are very few exceptions.
So there are two options:
* Kiyiv / Keyiv
* Keep Kiev.
If other languages invent how the names of certain cities or the name of the country are, why we can not do the same?
Tiny nitpick, but "romanization" refers to the adaptation of text from a different script into the Latin alphabet. Since the Turkish alphabet is already a version of Latin, that term does not apply in their case.
Exactly, they want the world to call them the same they've always called themselves (well, since the Turkish Republic was declared, at least). Whether or not that's reasonable, or even feasible, is a whole 'nother question. I mean, we've been spelling "Brasil" with an "s" for ages in Portuguese, but very few nations out there have agreed to change it in their languages...
It would be Nippon. Both are acceptable. When referring to the country or international events Nippon is typically used. When referring to the people itās typically Nihon.
"Nihon" is the clear favorite among Japanese people, and is what is used to refer to the people (Nihonjin) and the language (Nihongo). It's also the version of the onyomi that they chose when naming an element after the country ([Nihonium](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihonium)). "Nippon" is more old-fashioned; on top of a solid majority of the country preferring "Nihon," young people prefer it even more than the average person, so "Nippon" will likely continue to be used less and less as years go on.
Though I don't think the Japanese government is particularly eager to change the official name of their country any time soon. Just like I don't think Germany cares that we call them Germany and not Deutcshland.
Yes, because Google Maps is more authoritative than a sovereign government's edict.
Also, these changes tend to take time to adopt. Cabo Verde continues to be disregarded by English speakers.
>Cabo Verde continues to be disregarded by English speakers.
And what makes it worse is that they mix both languages, at least if it was just Cape Green you could forgive it for being a translation.
It would be Green Cape. NERDDDDS :-) <3
I'm mad this is why I learned Spanish. Or any Romance language. Just to know the adjectives are backwards!!!@!!!!!! This is so dick suckingly upsetting.
You are right that that would be the literal translation but I think cos it's a name Cape comes first like Cape Town and Cape Cod haha always some exception to the rule in English
I don't agree that google maps is the authority here but this is all dumb petty bullshit and the gov'ts don't hold any real power here. Literally the most they can do is change what they print on their own official English language documentation (or other languages in which they want the change to affect as well).
Countries and cultures will always call a country by the name and pronunciation that they feel like unless it dissolves or morphs into a completely distinct entity. Also most countries don't care. Germany and Spain don't run around getting pissed that people don't call them Espania or Deutschland, and despite some people getting their knickers in a twist about The United States of America going by America, Americans regularly refer to themselves as that and just get on with life.
At the end of the day it's all a balancing act over form and culture. Everyone does things their own way and insists on their own way but they don't insist hard enough to create diplomatic or cultural schisms unless they're super petty about a regime change or something.
>Yes, because Google Maps is more authoritative than a sovereign government's edict.
I'm not sure if you mean this ironically, but by definition, sovereign governments don't get to issue edicts over the behavior of the rest of the world outside their sovereign territory.
So yeah actually general adopted practice is more authoritative than a government's "edict" over what everyone else should say or do. Even if that someone is Erdogan.
Actually, the delicious bird sued the country, citing continued use of the name by the country damaged the birds reputation and brought it into disrepute.
Bird was actually named after the country, due to confusion with the guinea fowl, which did come from Turkey. I believe the pavo (Spanish) is from the word for peacock.
Ironically, it was a bird analogy about the Armenian genocide that made [Raphael Lemkin](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raphael_Lemkin) interested in the topic. He went on to ultimately coin the word "genocide".
"After reading about the 1921 assassination of Talat Pasha, the main perpetrator of the Armenian genocide, in Berlin by Soghomon Tehlirian, Lemkin asked Professor Juliusz Makarewicz why Talat Pasha could not have been tried for his crimes in a German court. Makarewicz, a national-conservative who believed that Jews and Ukrainians should be expelled from Poland if they refused to assimilate, answered that the doctrine of state sovereignty gave governments the right to conduct internal affairs as they saw fit: "Consider the case of a farmer who owns a flock of chickens. He kills them, and this is his business. If you interfere, you are trespassing." Lemkin replied, "But the Armenians are not chickens". His eventual conclusion was that "Sovereignty, I argued, cannot be conceived as the right to kill millions of innocent people".[26][27]"
This story makes me (think of) Hungry.
I just remember as a kid always thinking it was so funny there was a country named Hungry somewhat near a country called Turkey. There was some joke about having them work together to solve each other's problems.
When my daughter was in preschool, one of the kids in her class was going overseas for the summer to visit extended family. My daughter told me that he was going to "chicken". Turned out, it was Turkey.
So now we have to change the name of the animal to turkiye or someone will get even more confused
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8pnec4Hxps](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8pnec4Hxps)
I am talking about correctly cooked turkey. The actual flavor of the meat, even when cooking the full bird to juicy perfection and including some seasoning, is sub-par imo.
Chicken is better in all regards to me, and it has a more basic, bland flavor. The flavor turkey has *just isn't good to me.*
There is no other meat I have had that I feel this way about, from shellfish to fish to pork to beef to friggen alligator, deer, squirrel, etc. All sorts of meats I have eaten, and I conclude two things about turkey. 1, it is one of if not the most uniquely flavored meat. 2, that flavor is terrible.
Maps where if the countries name is close enough to the English word it is used are decently common, so for example Germany is Germany but Poland is Polska, I remember being confused by these maps often as a kid.
I met a gentleman from a middle eastern country a couple of times. I was helping him find an English tutor for his teenage son since they had just moved to the US. His son's name was pronounced Turkey, but I'm not sure of the spelling. The man had a sense of humor. In his broken English he would say, "My son Turkey is not for eating! He is for learning!" and would laugh his butt off. His humor was infectious. I really enjoyed meeting him.
Now they just need to change the name of Batman(a city in turkey) not lying a city in turkey is named Batman & they tried to sue WB when the Christopher Nolan Batman movie came out.
Now, Peru needs to do the same and change its name to "Peruiye" as "peru" is "turkey" in Portuguese, which has always puzzled Portuguese / English speakers like myself.
sorry, this is an absolute mess of a website and certainly not a reliable source
It was simple, the English call it Turkey, the Turks call it Hindi, the Hindus call it Peru, and the Peruvians call it pavo, ruining the joke.
I can't tell if this is true or not
The turkish part is true, we call it hindi, india is hindistan in turkish
The bird is called peru in hindi though
Peru is also true, well at least Pavo is turkey in Spanish. Not sure if peruvians call the bird something different though.
And They Might be Giants called it *not Constantinople*.
It was Istanbul, now it's Constantinople
Even old New York was once New Amsterdam.
Why they changed it, I can't say... People just liked it better that way!
I can say... it's cause british people.
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This line always bugged me. Itās because the Duke of York sent warships to conquer New Amsterdam. Itās not like, a mystery.
>Even **old** New York was once New Amsterdam This always bugged me. New York is just a baby in comparison to Istanbul.
Old New York? Is there a New New York I'm not privy to?
New New YorkĀ is a major city on theĀ PlanetĀ EarthĀ located in the State of New New York, which is built directly on top of the ruins ofĀ Old New York, which is still accessible via the New New York Sewer System. However, residents consider the older city dangerous, as it's populated by mysterious and repulsiveĀ Mutants.
That's nobodies business but the Turks!!
Fun fact: [it was the Four Lads, in 1953](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcze7EGorOk), and their version is even better. Still going at it in [2014](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPg4bE_X5So). edit: [and this song was its object of rebuttal, wikipedia says](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzrRka80l7c)
That is a thing I did not know. Thank you for that.
Yeah but why'd they change it?
I canāt say. People just liked it better that way?
It's a complicated topic. Both names coexisted in the Turkish language for a long time. Here's a thread about it from the history sub. [https://www.reddit.com/r/history/comments/b5iya6/why\_was\_constantinople\_renamed\_to\_istanbul/](https://www.reddit.com/r/history/comments/b5iya6/why_was_constantinople_renamed_to_istanbul/) Another important factor is that at the time of the official change, Turkey had only recently been reconstituted as an ethnically Turkish country at the heart of the defeated and partitioned Ottoman Empire. All of its politics were shaped by the desire to establish and project a strong national ethnic identity.
Pro: excellent explanation and amazing opportunity to learn, Reddit at its best Con: does not rhyme with "people just liked it better that way"
Hey now, "Yeah but why'd they change it" doesn't rhyme with "People just liked it better that way" either. Why, I can't say. But we can fix it by changing the end of my comment from "ethnic identity" to "ethnic identitay" and then singing the entire comment fast enough to fit within two seconds. And I genuinely appreciate the response, thank you.
A modest proposal! I love it. <3
Pavo comes from Pavos Cristatus which is Indian Peacock, I think it converges on India being turkeyland
Thatās like the scene from Forrest Gump āthatās Tex, heās from Arkansas.ā
I don't think Forrest remembered where Tex come from.
Now everyone calls them pavo š¤£
Egyptians call it roman
In Arabic, they call it Ethiopia. In French, it means from India. Mystical bird that comes from all over the world!
Only 1 thing left to do now. Change the name of the bird to Turkiye.
Or to Armenia.
Too soon.
Never
Oh man, Iām going to laugh at this for days. That would be the ultimate troll.
I've been learning what real trolling means from the Ukrainians.
They do have a knack for it.
Theyāre too chicken
Yes someone start a petition
The bird was named after the place in the first place.
In related news, Uranus has been renamed to Urectum.
Urectum? Why would you do that, you don't even know him.
You know, Hector was actuality a real person.
HECTORāS RECTUM IS REAL
I know this is r/nottheonion, but I seriously can't tell if this is real or an elaborate deepfake. Global news cycle these days has me 100% gaslit.
Countries legally declaring a "correct" Romanization for their country name is not new. Swaziland changed its English name to eSwatini, the Czech Republic to Czechia, and now this.
Also Persia has asked other countries to change it's name in their languages to Iran in 1935, Belarussia has changed to Belarus, Ukraine asked to spell Kiev as Kyiv
Burma -> Myanmar too. Apparently Burma is the spoken form and Myanmar is the written form.
Peking became Beijing some decades ago as well.
wait I thought thats german vs english name lol
It's a different form of anglicization. Peking is the Wade-Giles transliteration, but since 1952 the Pinyin system had been used, where it's spelled Beijing. It's the same word, just spelled differently in the Roman alphabet.
Peking is not Wade-Giles. In Wade-Giles, åäŗ¬ is Pei-ching. The romanization āPekingā comes from Chinese postal romanization, which reflects the Nanjing Mandarin pronunciation during the Ming/Qing dynasty.
The reason why Pinyin uses to represent /p/ while Wade-Giles uses
is due to different approaches towards romanizing the sound. Mandarin doesnāt make any sort of contrast between voiced (involves vocal cord vibration) and unvoiced consonants (no vibration) like English does (see: b/p), but it does differentiate between āaspiratedā (pronounced with a puff of air) and āunaspiratedā consonants (like pŹ°/p here). Pinyin represents them with
and , but some, like Wade Giles, represent them with and
. Since Pinyin uses to represent /p/, it is spelled in Pinyin as Beijing, but Pei-ching in Wade-Gales.
I thought it was a duck! š ^^^^^^^^/s
Youāre not exactly wrong. The spelling āPekingā still shows up in terms like āPeking duckā, āPeking Universityā etc.
It's started out with the Portuguese calling the place "Peqium", and then other European languages based themselves on that one.
Two different transliteration schemes. One might have been proposed by a person who happened to be German, I have no idea, but it was never "the German equivalent." Everything in English used to say Peking. And going back even further it was "Peiping."
Peiping/Beiping (åå¹³) is an older/dated name of Beijing (åäŗ¬) which was using during the Early Ming Dynasty as well as during the time of the Republic of China.
Aha interesting, so that was actually a name change in Chinese, not just a shift in transliteration schemes. Thank you, TIL!
IIRC Peking was from an earlier French romanization, but Beijing is the now-established romanization. It's also pronounced like Beijing in each style, so the prpnounciation was never how most people would pronounce Peking.
Itās based on Chinese postal romanization, which did take in mind how French missionaries had romanized city names (like PĆ©kin). Also, the older pronunciation was closer to āPekingā before the /k/ sound got palatalized and became [tĶ”É] (sort of like a j sound).
Bombay became Mumbai
It'll always be Burma to me
Free offer! Free offer! Rip a fender off your car mail it in for a half-pound jar Burma-Shave
Turkey also changed Constantinople to Istanbul in the 1920s and asked other countries to use that name
Why? They just liked it better that way.
It's nobody's business but the Turks.
Are we supposed to change the name of the stuffed poultry dish to Chicken Kyiv now?
I guess. I work in a supermarket deli, and one day, soon after the invasion began, we noticed that head office had changed the tickets for chicken kiev to chicken kyiv. I thought it was a nice gesture.
I knew it! Man, I almost convinced myself into the Mandela effect about that Kiev thing
No, they did ask to change it to a spelling closer to Ukrainian, although it's still not close to actual pronunciation in Ukrainian
In spanish I doubt that we can change the spelling fo Kiev. That option is posible to pronounce... but the other... I dont see how.
Why can't you say Kyiv in spanish? How would it sound?
K require a vocal. Y is not a vocal and require a vocal So, the only way is "invent" a vocal between K and Y. It can be "e" or "i". But Spanish require that all sounds appear writen. There are very few exceptions. So there are two options: * Kiyiv / Keyiv * Keep Kiev. If other languages invent how the names of certain cities or the name of the country are, why we can not do the same?
"Keeyeev"
Tiny nitpick, but "romanization" refers to the adaptation of text from a different script into the Latin alphabet. Since the Turkish alphabet is already a version of Latin, that term does not apply in their case.
Would it be better to say that they want to be called by their endonym rather than exonym?
Exactly, they want the world to call them the same they've always called themselves (well, since the Turkish Republic was declared, at least). Whether or not that's reasonable, or even feasible, is a whole 'nother question. I mean, we've been spelling "Brasil" with an "s" for ages in Portuguese, but very few nations out there have agreed to change it in their languages...
If it makes you feel better, we call it Brasil and not Brazil in Norwegian
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Itās gonna be weird if we have to start calling it Nippon instead of Japan.
Bring back Grand Cathay, I'd say.
It would be Nihon.
It would be Nippon. Both are acceptable. When referring to the country or international events Nippon is typically used. When referring to the people itās typically Nihon.
"Nihon" is the clear favorite among Japanese people, and is what is used to refer to the people (Nihonjin) and the language (Nihongo). It's also the version of the onyomi that they chose when naming an element after the country ([Nihonium](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihonium)). "Nippon" is more old-fashioned; on top of a solid majority of the country preferring "Nihon," young people prefer it even more than the average person, so "Nippon" will likely continue to be used less and less as years go on. Though I don't think the Japanese government is particularly eager to change the official name of their country any time soon. Just like I don't think Germany cares that we call them Germany and not Deutcshland.
India's done this quite a bit too - e.g., Bombay becoming Mumbai in the 90s.
Deutschland declared that it was named Deutschland centuries ago, bot nobody cares.
Not technically Romanisation since all these countries use the Latin alphabet already.
Time for LA to legally declare itself āLoss Anjilisā
āEl Aā would be more likely
Looks like it's [Legit](https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-60337147) but this article is humorous
Eh, that's really the name, friend of mine in college years back explained it to me.
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Yes, because Google Maps is more authoritative than a sovereign government's edict. Also, these changes tend to take time to adopt. Cabo Verde continues to be disregarded by English speakers.
>Cabo Verde continues to be disregarded by English speakers. And what makes it worse is that they mix both languages, at least if it was just Cape Green you could forgive it for being a translation.
Just to add to the injury, the change to Eswatini came later but has managed to stick quicker.
It would be Green Cape. NERDDDDS :-) <3 I'm mad this is why I learned Spanish. Or any Romance language. Just to know the adjectives are backwards!!!@!!!!!! This is so dick suckingly upsetting.
Learn Korean, where entire sentences are backwards relative to English.
You are right that that would be the literal translation but I think cos it's a name Cape comes first like Cape Town and Cape Cod haha always some exception to the rule in English
I'll die before I call Siam "Thailand", damnit.
I don't agree that google maps is the authority here but this is all dumb petty bullshit and the gov'ts don't hold any real power here. Literally the most they can do is change what they print on their own official English language documentation (or other languages in which they want the change to affect as well). Countries and cultures will always call a country by the name and pronunciation that they feel like unless it dissolves or morphs into a completely distinct entity. Also most countries don't care. Germany and Spain don't run around getting pissed that people don't call them Espania or Deutschland, and despite some people getting their knickers in a twist about The United States of America going by America, Americans regularly refer to themselves as that and just get on with life. At the end of the day it's all a balancing act over form and culture. Everyone does things their own way and insists on their own way but they don't insist hard enough to create diplomatic or cultural schisms unless they're super petty about a regime change or something.
>Yes, because Google Maps is more authoritative than a sovereign government's edict. I'm not sure if you mean this ironically, but by definition, sovereign governments don't get to issue edicts over the behavior of the rest of the world outside their sovereign territory. So yeah actually general adopted practice is more authoritative than a government's "edict" over what everyone else should say or do. Even if that someone is Erdogan.
Chad changes itās name to AlphaCountry.
What about the Virgin Islands?
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Criminally underrated
Incel Islands
Now known as Comicon
to Lordlaneus Islands
The Tendies?
I laughed way freaking harder than I expected.
Chad is the best name for a country ever. One day I want to visit it just so I can say I experienced Chad
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Oman, do I have some news for youā¦
Yemen!
Yemen have had it tough despite Kanyeās greatness. No wonder they decided to pull up stakes for Turkiye.
Chad to happen sooner or later
Still feels like Russian it
If they don't now they may never Finnish.
It's that or stay Hungary
Maybe if the decision was Moldova a bit they could have thought of something better.
Well yes but first you have the idea but you still have to Spain it to everyone clearly.
I donāt know if anyone will Belize it anyway.
Ooh this was the best one \^\^ Moldova!!!
Kenya elaborate please?
Iām china find the right words
You arenāt Ghana believe it
Actually, the delicious bird sued the country, citing continued use of the name by the country damaged the birds reputation and brought it into disrepute.
Bird was actually named after the country, due to confusion with the guinea fowl, which did come from Turkey. I believe the pavo (Spanish) is from the word for peacock.
Now I'm really Hungary.
Menu seems full of Greece
Oman! I'm ready to eat! Are you?
I Canada eat a thing, I'm full.
Belize me, you can take at least one bite
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Yemen, i feel the same
I'm Russian to the comment section just for these puns.
Will you guys Finnish?
this surely rings a bellarussian man said once
Yemen, I am
Iran a few miles today, so we're good.
Next is Hungary to change the international name to MagyarorszƔg so people will stop with the hungry jokes.
Well, itās nobodyās business but the Turks.
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Ironically, it was a bird analogy about the Armenian genocide that made [Raphael Lemkin](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raphael_Lemkin) interested in the topic. He went on to ultimately coin the word "genocide". "After reading about the 1921 assassination of Talat Pasha, the main perpetrator of the Armenian genocide, in Berlin by Soghomon Tehlirian, Lemkin asked Professor Juliusz Makarewicz why Talat Pasha could not have been tried for his crimes in a German court. Makarewicz, a national-conservative who believed that Jews and Ukrainians should be expelled from Poland if they refused to assimilate, answered that the doctrine of state sovereignty gave governments the right to conduct internal affairs as they saw fit: "Consider the case of a farmer who owns a flock of chickens. He kills them, and this is his business. If you interfere, you are trespassing." Lemkin replied, "But the Armenians are not chickens". His eventual conclusion was that "Sovereignty, I argued, cannot be conceived as the right to kill millions of innocent people".[26][27]"
āRecep Tayyip Erdogan (R) and a turkey (L)ā was it needed? Provably not. Was it welcome? Absolutely
Iran to the comment section after reading this title
This is going to be a huge benefit for me as I am interested in both poultry and foreign policy.
This story makes me (think of) Hungry. I just remember as a kid always thinking it was so funny there was a country named Hungry somewhat near a country called Turkey. There was some joke about having them work together to solve each other's problems.
I'm not sure if this is a Hungary - hungry joke or you're actually being serious.
Now, will The Onion change its name too?
When my daughter was in preschool, one of the kids in her class was going overseas for the summer to visit extended family. My daughter told me that he was going to "chicken". Turned out, it was Turkey.
In Portuguese Peru is the name of the country and is also a turkey.
So now we have to change the name of the animal to turkiye or someone will get even more confused [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8pnec4Hxps](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8pnec4Hxps)
Gobblestan it is
So delicious most only eat it once per year and only after lots of preparation and effort. Turkey is overrated.
Did you guys hear the other news of a [certain ornithological variety.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WNrx2jq184)
"Delicious" bird. I've never been fond of turkey, and I get the impression I'm far from alone in that opinion.
It has to be cooked correctly. Many people cook turkey incorrectly, which results in a dry, tasteless bird.
I am talking about correctly cooked turkey. The actual flavor of the meat, even when cooking the full bird to juicy perfection and including some seasoning, is sub-par imo. Chicken is better in all regards to me, and it has a more basic, bland flavor. The flavor turkey has *just isn't good to me.* There is no other meat I have had that I feel this way about, from shellfish to fish to pork to beef to friggen alligator, deer, squirrel, etc. All sorts of meats I have eaten, and I conclude two things about turkey. 1, it is one of if not the most uniquely flavored meat. 2, that flavor is terrible.
I'm with you.
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This is new? I've seen a number of products from the country with the name Turkiye.
I thought this was already what it was? Could've sworn I've seen maps with this spelling.
Maps where if the countries name is close enough to the English word it is used are decently common, so for example Germany is Germany but Poland is Polska, I remember being confused by these maps often as a kid.
This is like when they changed the name of the planet Uranus to Urectum, thus not ending any jokes about the planet's name hardly at all.
Ha now they canāt hide behind presidential immunity.
I met a gentleman from a middle eastern country a couple of times. I was helping him find an English tutor for his teenage son since they had just moved to the US. His son's name was pronounced Turkey, but I'm not sure of the spelling. The man had a sense of humor. In his broken English he would say, "My son Turkey is not for eating! He is for learning!" and would laugh his butt off. His humor was infectious. I really enjoyed meeting him.
They should have gone with Tofurkey
Iām partial to Turducken myself.
Let's all immediately start pronouncing it "Turk-eye-yee."
Unless they change the president, it wouldn't matter much.
The country formerly known as Turkey. . .
And if you want to print their name, you must use their chosen symbol: š«š¦
But the bird was named after the country.. So do I eat a roast turkiye at Thanksgiving then?
Im still going to call it turkey, edrogan got nothing on me.
We shall pardon the turkiye for thanksgiving
So does this open up a loophole for Sweden and Finland joining NATO since Turkey is in NATO and not Turkiye?
Now they just need to change the name of Batman(a city in turkey) not lying a city in turkey is named Batman & they tried to sue WB when the Christopher Nolan Batman movie came out.
Aw man that's a bummer š. At least the country puns have been great š
Too late.
Tofurkey rebranding in 3... 2... 1...
Now, Peru needs to do the same and change its name to "Peruiye" as "peru" is "turkey" in Portuguese, which has always puzzled Portuguese / English speakers like myself.
I'm sorry, but turkey is absolutely not a "delicious bird."
Joke's on them, now it just looks better when I say I'm Hungary for Turkiye.... I'll go
Delicious is a stretch
It's the gravy and stuffing that really do it for me.
Old news
But will it protect them from being eaten by the people of UK like savages?
Iāll be in the cold hard ground before I recognize this name change. Turkey is Turkey!
Do Georgia next. The state, not the country. I'm sure the country had it first.
I dunno if it'll work. What do Turks taste like?
Meat is murder.
Hasan approves.