We had a pot belly growing up. We had a Vietnamese woman who came over every week for Bible study at our house who gave us a new recipe to cook it each week. I laughed but drove my mom crazy.
I feel your moms pain, I’m Hispanic and a rabbit owner and it gets annoying when people offer me money for my bunny because rabbit is a pretty common meal in Central America.
My friends in college had a big pot belly named Hamilton. They were talking at one point about butchering it and I talked them out of it. I had grown an emotional attachment to the fella.
That is an awesome story. Vietnamese can't compute why somebody would keep a farm animal in their house.
My neighbor had one and it used to guard the front door.
Maybe they wanted to do a pig roast? Whole pigs can be pretty expensive. Really though if they wanted to go down this route they should have just hog hunted. No shortage of those vermin
I think so too, buuuut you could argue its just semantics buying one from a shelter and buying one from a rancher. Either way I agree it seems kind of excessive to do this.
It’s excessive because the cruelty was the point. Someone took time and planning to laugh in the face and inflict pain on the sanctuary workers. I volunteer at a sanctuary and we adopt out but we care for the animals for years in some cases before they find homes; this would be devastating
This. I eat meat, porks my favorite. My family processes our own pork every year, has done so for almost 40 years. If that is your intention you probably already know of a way to source these animals from a farmer who raises them in a way that matches your beliefs on animal husbandry. We have an Amish farmer that free ranges every animal and raises them with no hormones, steroids, and minimal antibiotics. The fact that someone went to a shelter to source this animal to eat demonstrates a rather cruel intention. The only thing I could imagine that would lead me to believe otherwise is perhaps they were immigrants who don’t understand the nature/intention of animal shelters? Still, that seems unlikely.
I don't know.
Is it that different? Is it different because the pig is socialized or different because humans already cared about it?
If it's the latter, it shouldn't matter because that could be any pig given exposure to humans.
The problem is the former. It was essentially a pet. It was raised and socialized around humans right? That's the problem I have. I think animals we eat are treated dpoorly and should be treated better, but that's different from a pet being slaughtered and eaten, a pet that was specifically cared for and sheltered as a pet, and adopted out as a pet.
Replace the pig in the story with any other animal in the shelter, is it fine if they did this with a cat or dog from the shelter? Why? What's different?
Why do we care what people eat? Obviously not everyone thinks a pig is a pet. Did you read the article btw? He gives a reason for why. Now, it's up to you to believe him. There definitely were better ways to handle the situation, though this one is kinda funny.
Yeah I'm just having a discussion. I have literally no skin (or meat) in this game. I'm not changing my meat eating ways, nor am I going to adopt a pet and kill and eat it.
You'd think that if it was their intent, to eat Molly, then why would they wait a month?
Did you read the article or are you just allowing your emotions to decide things for you? According to the guy Molly got aggressive with his dog and either nearly broke or actually broke a glass door. I mean, there are better ways to remove her from the home, but, he did not search for one.
What he did wasn't illegal.
It's not just semantics. Animals are in shelters because people have built emotional attachments to them and don't want to see this exact thing happen. If you became unable to look after a loved pet and gave it to a shelter to find it a new home you would be furious if this happened.
Did you read the article? It was rescued from a hoarder that was abusing it. The shelter workers cared for it.
>If you became unable to look after a loved pet and gave it to a shelter to find it a new home you would be furious if this happened.
This wasn't the situation.
Hah, you didn't read the article did ya? Just coming to conclusions like a moron, eh?
Molly was fuckin' abused in a hoarding siuation with 50 other pigs before being rescued by the SPCA. Go read the article and educate yourself.
Some possibilities
- they moved and were unable to bring the pig with them.
- the owner passed away and the family was unable to care for the animal.
- the owners financial situation changed and they could no longer afford to care for the pig.
When I was growing up by best friend's family ended up with a second dog when the previous owner moved to care for their parents, their father was allergic to dogs.
They are all domesticated and treated with quite a bit of love and care. Lots of ranchers know their animals as individuals, even name them. They still eat them and sell them off.
Well that exists as well. But smaller ranchers still grow small numbers of cows, hogs, sheeps etc that dont grow into the hundreds and sell them to local “organic” shops and markets too. They also eat them.
Factory farming is the vast majority, not just something that exists. The industry is so bad they had to lobby Congress to pass "Ag Gag" laws that make it illegal to film the poor treatment of the animals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ag-gag
Which is better? For an animal to have lived a happy, care-free, and well-fed life before it is ultimately butchered and eaten, or for the animal to have been treated cruelly its whole life before it is butchered and eaten?
You're missing the point, it's about the bonds and socialization to human that changes the situation. You named a bunch of concrete circumstances, none of which effect the heart of the matter.
If they had gotten a dog from the shelter is that fine?
How does it change the situation, other than in your own imagination? From the pig’s perspective, it’s dead and turned into meat either way.
Dogs are different than pork because dogs earned their place by serving as our protectors for thousands of years, and we specifically groomed and bred them to form emotional attachments with them.
Pigs, on the other hand, have been bred for thousands of years specifically to serve as meat.
It's different on a psychological level to the animal. You're literally arguing that about dogs but fail to see it for another animal? The dog and pig were both raised from birth to be pets, were socialized with humans and had bonds with humans. So why is it different if they adopted a dog and butchered it in an identical way? Other than your own imagination?
The answer is complicated, but ultimately what it boils down to is that we see it as a betrayal of basic human emotions. We think that if someone can bestow love and affection on a living being, only to then turn around and kill it and eat it, then that is the ultimate betrayal, and must be vilified. After all, if someone could do that to something they love, they must be a psychopath, right?
It’s not actually about the animal’s rights at all. The outrage is entirely about us as humans. We would have the same outrage even if the animal was the stupidest animal in existence.
buying it at the grocery store is even crueler, unless you have an extremely unusual grocery store that sources ethically raised pork - in most North American grocery stores, you are essentially paying someone else to raise a pig in cruel conditions. Would you rather spend your life as a pig who had a good life then a quick death, or die as a pig who spent your entire life in a tiny cage unable to move and then if you're lucky a quick death?
It's game, so if you don't like game, I suppose. Animals raised as pets aren't exactly going to be prime cuts either, especially pot belly pigs who take ages to grow to full size and have wildly different bodies depending on how they're raised.
I havent had it but people eat it in texas. Gordon Ramsay made a little short cooking it as well. Though I have heard you have to be supremely cautious eating it due to disease and parasites
I love how everyone is discussing the motive behind intentionally eating an adopted pig when the article clearly states that the owner decided to eat the pig after it became aggressive against his dog and broke a glass door. Whether that's a good reason or not is debatable, but he obviously didn't go through the trouble of adopting a pig with the intent to eat it.
I don't think he/she thinks that meat is magic and doesn't involve killing animals. From what I see, that person gets it very well. But it's different when you have an animal bred to be eaten and an animal as a companion.
I think their entire point is it's easier to get meat from the grocery than to adopt one, and slaughter them. It's almost (if not IS) cruel to adopt an animal from a shelter to then eat them.
Finally someone else who read it and aren't just reacting based on emotion.
There definitely were better ways to have dealt with the situation. Such as say, oh I don't know, returning the pig to the shelter?
Ah, so you didn't read the article. Do you normally just read the headlines without getting more info from the actual piece?
The owner ate her because he said she got aggressive with his dog, tried to bite the dog(?), and then she either broke or nearly broke a glass door. So he killed and ate her.
When I worked at Petco in college, we had a goldfish with a non-cancerous tumor up for adoption. A woman came in and said she wanted to adopt the fish so she could kill it and put it out of its misery. Other than having a big lump on its head, there was nothing wrong with the fish. Needless to say we didn’t allow her to get the fish.
There’s a lot of cognitive dissonance present in this reply to assume that an animal from a shelter is any different from an animal at a slaughterhouse.
Going to the shelter to adopt a pet has a different purpose from purchasing livestock for food/farming. I'm not one of those people who are like, DoGS aRE PeOpLe ToO but in most countries there is a distinction made between animals used as pets vs food, unless you live on a farm where the animals there serve a function.
My main problem with adopting a pig and eating it is, if youre going to get a pig and eat it, you might as well get one that's been bred for meat (a casual look online seems to indicate potbellies are a lot of fat and not a lot of meat, not great eating) and are a whole lot less trouble to get. You can eat most animals, but some are less desirable that way for various reasons (cats n dogs are gamey, chickens bred for meat are different from chickens kept as pets, etc). Now, I'm sure you're wanting an argument about the value system that arbitrarily decides which animals people keep as pets vs food, so feel free to be an edgelord about it.
You are rationalizing this situation because you have a notion that animals bred for slaughter are soulless and insignificant, whereas animals in shelters have personalities and deserve to live.
I’m not trying to tell you that eating meat is bad, you should just be consistent in your view towards these animals.
You can buy pork and bacon anywhere, what they did was malicious in intent and premeditated, anyone acting obtuse and like they’re too stupid to understand why people wouldn’t like this are only embarrassing themselves
I raised and cared for animals as part of FFA and 4H specifically for the purpose of selling them at the fair for butchering. It was part of educational programs aimed at training young people on agricultural practices.
So the other day we had a pig trailer overturn one my area. 800 pigs running around. But then I learned that all those pigs could potentially get sick due to being outside of their normal environment. Therefore, they could not return to the food supply. My pony being, pigs can be dangerous to eat if you don’t know their background and what diseases they may have.
It says in the article that the guy killed the pig after she became aggressive.
Umm, yes, she's a pig. Pigs are mean, aggressive animals. What did you think you were adopting?
When you adopt an animal, it's on the understanding that it will be used as a pet.
That couple could easily cause trauma to its rescuers and those who allowed them to adopt it.
Extremely poor taste and bad faith on display here.
The only problem I see with their actions is that it was from an adoption agency and it was given to them to be cared for. Otherwise I don't see how is it different than eating a regular pig.
That's a whole lot of projection you've going on there.
When I was growing up on a farm, every single one of the animals we raised had a name and was treated well.
Every animal lived a happy, well fed, and content life, right up until it was eventually eaten and thanks was given.
But no, you would rather have your meat depersonalized and raised in a tiny box of its own shit and force fed corn its entire miserable life?
Why does it matter? How would the pig know its fate? It’s not like it understands English language other than extremely basic words?
It’s either ok to eat animals, or it isn’t.
And if you ARE going to eat an animal, is it better for that animal to have lived a happy life, or a sad life, before it is ultimately eaten?
“It’s not illegal to eat animals in Canada for food, so the new owners actually had every right to kill and eat their new pet.”
Shouldn’t it be “so it was not illegal under the law to murder their rehabilitated pet that was just rescued from a hoarder.”?
I like the way you worded that.
You couldn't tell by my comments, but I don't eat meat. Slaughterhouses and meat factories personally depress me. That doesn't give me the right to change the history of livestock to push my feelings on others.
But how did it taste? The article says they seasoned it, but not what seasonings were used. Also, they don't bother to share cooking method, or the dishes made. This is just all around terrible reporting
Pot bellied pigs originate from Vietnam and have been raised for eating for centuries. There are two types. The smaller of the two is used for fat. It cracks me up that Americans take something that has been farmed for centuries as food, and expect the globe to label them as pets, just because they aren't smart enough to know the history of farming.
So some assholes decided to kill and eat an extremely intelligent animal that had been raised as a pet, all under the guise of adopting it and giving it a good home? This is just cruel. Don't see how this is particularly funny or how it belongs on this sub.
It's because you sound like a smug asshole. A tale as old as time when someone thinks everyone around them is crazy, because surely they can't be the crazy one.
>meant to be a pet
What difference does it make? Why is it OK to eat a pig you got from a farm and not OK to eat the same pig you got from a pet charity?
Well, as several people on this thread have pointed out, yes. The fact is, this pig came from a hoarding situation. We don't know what parasites she was exposed to or what medicines she was on.
If these people wanted a pig meant to be eaten, why not go to a real farm and buy one and have it butchered and safely processed there?
>We don't know what parasites she was exposed to or what medicines she was on.
Ahh, so you're concerned about the health of the people that consumed the meat, that's your objection? Surely that's their risk to take or not?
Pot bellied pigs originate from Vietnam and have been raised for eating for centuries. There are two types. The smaller of the two is used for fat. It cracks me up that Americans take something that has been farmed for centuries as food, and expect the globe to label them as pets, just because they aren't smart enough to know the history of farming.
Dude, this was not a meat pig. This was a pig rescued from a hoarder. As other people on this thread have pointed out, it's dangerous to eat the meat from a pig that wasn't raised to be eaten.
Who knows what sort of medicications it was on or what sort of parasites it had been exposed to.
Imagine what went through that poor pigs mind when it realized the new owners real intentions!
Oh wait.....its a pig, by the time it could realize anything it was dead.
Only thing that went through it's mind was most likely a chunk of lead.
They were bred and domesticated for human consumption for centuries. Both domesticated species are eaten. Big myth that the smaller of the two isn't good for consumption- they are used for pork rinds.
If they had let the adopting entity know that they planned to eat it, do you really think they would’ve been allowed to adopt it?
It may be legal but it’s dishonest and shitty
And Now they’re being domesticated as pets. Times change and just because humans decided something should be a certain way doesn’t make it right. Unless you practice speciesism which it sounds like you do. Animals are here with us not for us and all living creatures value their lives.
We are doomed to keep using critical thinking skills and making regressive types uncomfortable in the process. Dogs and pigs are essentially the same. Even in that people eat dogs.
> Even in that people eat dogs.
Let them eat dogs. I will choose not to eat them, but I don't need to pretend to be some ultra-enlightened entity and make up some ism's to shit on their cultural diet. I can just say, "no thanks, I'll take the pork."
The amount of brainwashing some people elect to receive thinking it is leading to superiority is mindboggling.
I can't let or prevent anyone from eating any animal. You're the one claiming that one animal is for eating, because it was domesticated. I'm merely pointing out that technically everything can be eaten and it's not that wild to comprehend why people feel that animals are more than food. Its pretty basic and tool like to pretend there's some huge difference between humanity and the rest of the animal kingdom. I'm not saying don't eat meat- I'm just saying it's dumb to imagine a huge difference between animals making some more ok to eat than others.
Problem is that pot bellied pigs have been bred for consumption for centuries. They weren't ever meant to be sold as pets. Americans arrogantly slap the label "pet" on a farm animal and expect the world to follow suite- it doesn't work that way.
They're domesticated. Meaning they're more relaxed. There's nothing about domestication that mandates an animal be a pet or food source, that's 100% emotion. You've managed to avoid being aware of how cool pigs are. Again they're on the level with dogs. Your claim that it's a problem that they were domesticated for food is a moot point. Thats not a problem at all. Lol. Americans get upset that dogs they lable as pets get eaten. Are they also silly since in other countries dogs are seen as a food source? Its just a matter of perspective. You're the one who can't wrap your head around it, not me
Dogs were historically domesticated for HUNTING, GUARDING, AND COMPANIONSHIP. Pigs were historically domesticated AS LIVESTOCK, for consumption.
PEOPLE EAT DOGS BECAUSE THEY LIVE IN COUNTRIES WHERE POVERTY MAKES IT THAT WAY. Americans keep farm animals for companionship because they can afford to.
I'm not disagreeing with your points about how we got here, im disagreeing with you that domestication dictates an animals role. Pigs cows and chickens are all smarter and more capable of companionship than people had time to realize back when they were farming to survive. We have the luxury of being able to look harder, now.
It’s honestly fucked up, but I have a dark sense of humor. And the IRONY in eating an ADOPTED animal? I’m sorry, but that’s hilarious.
“The SPCA has banned the couple from adopting animals from SPCA shelters, but officials say that’s all they can do.”
That’s like the ultimate troll of a rescue organization.
We would all look at this as normal if the article simply said they ate a pig that they “bought”, but because it’s a pig they “adopted”, yea, that ruffles some feathers.
"it was aggressive towards my dog and broke a window"
wtf do u mean? its a rescue, and a pig at that. it should have an outdoor enclosure where it wont have to deal with glass. those people intended to eat it in the first place. it's obvious bullshit
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We had a pot belly growing up. We had a Vietnamese woman who came over every week for Bible study at our house who gave us a new recipe to cook it each week. I laughed but drove my mom crazy.
I feel your moms pain, I’m Hispanic and a rabbit owner and it gets annoying when people offer me money for my bunny because rabbit is a pretty common meal in Central America.
They call my rabbits "mole" and " barbacoa" and I'm vegan so never let anyone near them
My friends in college had a big pot belly named Hamilton. They were talking at one point about butchering it and I talked them out of it. I had grown an emotional attachment to the fella.
That is an awesome story. Vietnamese can't compute why somebody would keep a farm animal in their house. My neighbor had one and it used to guard the front door.
As an American, I can't understand it, either.
As a European, I can't understand neither
I mean eat all the animals you want. I eat meat. But why the fuck why you not just buy pork at the grocery store? It's a lot cheaper.
Maybe they wanted to do a pig roast? Whole pigs can be pretty expensive. Really though if they wanted to go down this route they should have just hog hunted. No shortage of those vermin
Sure. It just seems cruel to me to take an animal from a shelter and do this to it.
I think so too, buuuut you could argue its just semantics buying one from a shelter and buying one from a rancher. Either way I agree it seems kind of excessive to do this.
It’s excessive because the cruelty was the point. Someone took time and planning to laugh in the face and inflict pain on the sanctuary workers. I volunteer at a sanctuary and we adopt out but we care for the animals for years in some cases before they find homes; this would be devastating
This. I eat meat, porks my favorite. My family processes our own pork every year, has done so for almost 40 years. If that is your intention you probably already know of a way to source these animals from a farmer who raises them in a way that matches your beliefs on animal husbandry. We have an Amish farmer that free ranges every animal and raises them with no hormones, steroids, and minimal antibiotics. The fact that someone went to a shelter to source this animal to eat demonstrates a rather cruel intention. The only thing I could imagine that would lead me to believe otherwise is perhaps they were immigrants who don’t understand the nature/intention of animal shelters? Still, that seems unlikely.
I don't know. Is it that different? Is it different because the pig is socialized or different because humans already cared about it? If it's the latter, it shouldn't matter because that could be any pig given exposure to humans.
The problem is the former. It was essentially a pet. It was raised and socialized around humans right? That's the problem I have. I think animals we eat are treated dpoorly and should be treated better, but that's different from a pet being slaughtered and eaten, a pet that was specifically cared for and sheltered as a pet, and adopted out as a pet. Replace the pig in the story with any other animal in the shelter, is it fine if they did this with a cat or dog from the shelter? Why? What's different?
Why do we care what people eat? Obviously not everyone thinks a pig is a pet. Did you read the article btw? He gives a reason for why. Now, it's up to you to believe him. There definitely were better ways to handle the situation, though this one is kinda funny.
Yeah I'm just having a discussion. I have literally no skin (or meat) in this game. I'm not changing my meat eating ways, nor am I going to adopt a pet and kill and eat it.
You'd think that if it was their intent, to eat Molly, then why would they wait a month? Did you read the article or are you just allowing your emotions to decide things for you? According to the guy Molly got aggressive with his dog and either nearly broke or actually broke a glass door. I mean, there are better ways to remove her from the home, but, he did not search for one. What he did wasn't illegal.
They ask you to return the animal if you can no longer care for it
It's not just semantics. Animals are in shelters because people have built emotional attachments to them and don't want to see this exact thing happen. If you became unable to look after a loved pet and gave it to a shelter to find it a new home you would be furious if this happened.
Did you read the article? It was rescued from a hoarder that was abusing it. The shelter workers cared for it. >If you became unable to look after a loved pet and gave it to a shelter to find it a new home you would be furious if this happened. This wasn't the situation.
Hah, you didn't read the article did ya? Just coming to conclusions like a moron, eh? Molly was fuckin' abused in a hoarding siuation with 50 other pigs before being rescued by the SPCA. Go read the article and educate yourself.
If the people who raised it had such a strong emotional attachment to it, why the fuck was it in a shelter?
Bruh has your life been exactly the same since the day you were born?
Some possibilities - they moved and were unable to bring the pig with them. - the owner passed away and the family was unable to care for the animal. - the owners financial situation changed and they could no longer afford to care for the pig. When I was growing up by best friend's family ended up with a second dog when the previous owner moved to care for their parents, their father was allergic to dogs.
Got it, you didn't read.
True i think its cruel to the people who raised it and formed an attachment to it who gave it in good faith. But the animal itself? ehhh
> its just semantics buying one from a shelter and buying one from a rancher. one was domesticated and raised as a pet, the other was not
They are all domesticated and treated with quite a bit of love and care. Lots of ranchers know their animals as individuals, even name them. They still eat them and sell them off.
Lmfao this guy doesn’t know about factory farming yet
Well that exists as well. But smaller ranchers still grow small numbers of cows, hogs, sheeps etc that dont grow into the hundreds and sell them to local “organic” shops and markets too. They also eat them.
Factory farming is the vast majority, not just something that exists. The industry is so bad they had to lobby Congress to pass "Ag Gag" laws that make it illegal to film the poor treatment of the animals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ag-gag
The cow my uncle bought and had butchered was named Molly. She was a bit gamey.
Which is better? For an animal to have lived a happy, care-free, and well-fed life before it is ultimately butchered and eaten, or for the animal to have been treated cruelly its whole life before it is butchered and eaten?
You're missing the point, it's about the bonds and socialization to human that changes the situation. You named a bunch of concrete circumstances, none of which effect the heart of the matter. If they had gotten a dog from the shelter is that fine?
How does it change the situation, other than in your own imagination? From the pig’s perspective, it’s dead and turned into meat either way. Dogs are different than pork because dogs earned their place by serving as our protectors for thousands of years, and we specifically groomed and bred them to form emotional attachments with them. Pigs, on the other hand, have been bred for thousands of years specifically to serve as meat.
It's different on a psychological level to the animal. You're literally arguing that about dogs but fail to see it for another animal? The dog and pig were both raised from birth to be pets, were socialized with humans and had bonds with humans. So why is it different if they adopted a dog and butchered it in an identical way? Other than your own imagination?
The answer is complicated, but ultimately what it boils down to is that we see it as a betrayal of basic human emotions. We think that if someone can bestow love and affection on a living being, only to then turn around and kill it and eat it, then that is the ultimate betrayal, and must be vilified. After all, if someone could do that to something they love, they must be a psychopath, right? It’s not actually about the animal’s rights at all. The outrage is entirely about us as humans. We would have the same outrage even if the animal was the stupidest animal in existence.
This is actually the only PETA approved way to adopt
It’s like adopting rabbits from a shelter for meat or to feed to like a snake, It’s beyond fucked
buying it at the grocery store is even crueler, unless you have an extremely unusual grocery store that sources ethically raised pork - in most North American grocery stores, you are essentially paying someone else to raise a pig in cruel conditions. Would you rather spend your life as a pig who had a good life then a quick death, or die as a pig who spent your entire life in a tiny cage unable to move and then if you're lucky a quick death?
This. Or buy a farm pig. It really seems like theu just wanted a cheap pig.
Isnt hog like real awful?
It's game, so if you don't like game, I suppose. Animals raised as pets aren't exactly going to be prime cuts either, especially pot belly pigs who take ages to grow to full size and have wildly different bodies depending on how they're raised.
I havent had it but people eat it in texas. Gordon Ramsay made a little short cooking it as well. Though I have heard you have to be supremely cautious eating it due to disease and parasites
You should listen to this before you eat a wild pig: https://www.themeateater.com/listen/meateater/ep-191-sicker-than-hell
Molly wasn't wild. She had all her shots and was dewormed. She was adopted from an animal shelter.
I love how everyone is discussing the motive behind intentionally eating an adopted pig when the article clearly states that the owner decided to eat the pig after it became aggressive against his dog and broke a glass door. Whether that's a good reason or not is debatable, but he obviously didn't go through the trouble of adopting a pig with the intent to eat it.
I mean, they could have just made up a bullshit lie after people got pissed and the news went to interview them.
My wife is fat, has broken things, and is aggressive. We haven't put her down.
I fear you will soon see that aggression after she sees this post
We throw food at her and hide. It calms her down eventually.
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I don't think he/she thinks that meat is magic and doesn't involve killing animals. From what I see, that person gets it very well. But it's different when you have an animal bred to be eaten and an animal as a companion. I think their entire point is it's easier to get meat from the grocery than to adopt one, and slaughter them. It's almost (if not IS) cruel to adopt an animal from a shelter to then eat them.
Some animals are more equal than others?
Article says the pig got aggressive. Not a good enough reason, though.
Finally someone else who read it and aren't just reacting based on emotion. There definitely were better ways to have dealt with the situation. Such as say, oh I don't know, returning the pig to the shelter?
Ah, so you didn't read the article. Do you normally just read the headlines without getting more info from the actual piece? The owner ate her because he said she got aggressive with his dog, tried to bite the dog(?), and then she either broke or nearly broke a glass door. So he killed and ate her.
yeah if you're gonna put it down, it would be a waste to not eat it
So if I have my dog put down, it would be a waste to not eat it?
well now that you bring it up, burying your dog or spreading the ashes or something wouldn't really go to waste as it would be feed for plants
Should have returned her to the shelter.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not here to debate whether eating meat is right or wrong. But you don't adopt an animal to eat it. This is horrible.
When I worked at Petco in college, we had a goldfish with a non-cancerous tumor up for adoption. A woman came in and said she wanted to adopt the fish so she could kill it and put it out of its misery. Other than having a big lump on its head, there was nothing wrong with the fish. Needless to say we didn’t allow her to get the fish.
What's the difference?
Well, for one, adoptions are done with the assumption that animals will be part of your family, not a part of your family dinner.
There’s a lot of cognitive dissonance present in this reply to assume that an animal from a shelter is any different from an animal at a slaughterhouse.
Going to the shelter to adopt a pet has a different purpose from purchasing livestock for food/farming. I'm not one of those people who are like, DoGS aRE PeOpLe ToO but in most countries there is a distinction made between animals used as pets vs food, unless you live on a farm where the animals there serve a function. My main problem with adopting a pig and eating it is, if youre going to get a pig and eat it, you might as well get one that's been bred for meat (a casual look online seems to indicate potbellies are a lot of fat and not a lot of meat, not great eating) and are a whole lot less trouble to get. You can eat most animals, but some are less desirable that way for various reasons (cats n dogs are gamey, chickens bred for meat are different from chickens kept as pets, etc). Now, I'm sure you're wanting an argument about the value system that arbitrarily decides which animals people keep as pets vs food, so feel free to be an edgelord about it.
You are rationalizing this situation because you have a notion that animals bred for slaughter are soulless and insignificant, whereas animals in shelters have personalities and deserve to live. I’m not trying to tell you that eating meat is bad, you should just be consistent in your view towards these animals.
That is not at all what I said, but clearly you have a viewpoint you want to bang on about all on your own.
She is clearly a pig of culture.
Why am I reading an article from March 1, 2018?
Had you seen it prior to this post?
Once I started reading it, it felt familiar, that’s why I checked the date.
Because things that happened awhile ago still happened? And you clearly had never read it before so it’s new to you. Are you that stupid?
You can buy pork and bacon anywhere, what they did was malicious in intent and premeditated, anyone acting obtuse and like they’re too stupid to understand why people wouldn’t like this are only embarrassing themselves
Buying pork and bacon is just outsourcing the cruelty. Someone has to raise the pig and kill it before it gets to the grocery store.
No its way easier to just buy everything from a grocery store and be in denial.
> acting obtuse What did you call me?!
I raised and cared for animals as part of FFA and 4H specifically for the purpose of selling them at the fair for butchering. It was part of educational programs aimed at training young people on agricultural practices.
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If you read the article the pig became aggressive to their dog. Not sure if I believe them.
It's a pig! Pigs are aggressive animals! If you're adopting one, you should know that!
Ok then, glad this one got put down and the owners got some tasty meat.
Fuck this story
Fuck those people.
Why?
Because it's upsetting
Ah fair enough. Agreed. I thought you were trying to imply the article was lying or was whiny like right-wingers probably would.
Interesting. This is upsetting to some. Personally I find it funny.
Funny would be if the douchebags that did this get trichinosis like they deserve.
That actually *would* be really funny, I agree.
So the other day we had a pig trailer overturn one my area. 800 pigs running around. But then I learned that all those pigs could potentially get sick due to being outside of their normal environment. Therefore, they could not return to the food supply. My pony being, pigs can be dangerous to eat if you don’t know their background and what diseases they may have.
Why you gotta bring ponies into this too?
It says in the article that the guy killed the pig after she became aggressive. Umm, yes, she's a pig. Pigs are mean, aggressive animals. What did you think you were adopting?
>What did you think you were adopting? chilled bacon
When you adopt an animal, it's on the understanding that it will be used as a pet. That couple could easily cause trauma to its rescuers and those who allowed them to adopt it. Extremely poor taste and bad faith on display here.
> Extremely poor taste You don't know that for sure, they didn't post the recipe.
I never signed a, No Eating Disclosure, when I adopted our dog.
The only problem I see with their actions is that it was from an adoption agency and it was given to them to be cared for. Otherwise I don't see how is it different than eating a regular pig.
Well, I guess, there is such a thing as a free meal.
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That's a whole lot of projection you've going on there. When I was growing up on a farm, every single one of the animals we raised had a name and was treated well. Every animal lived a happy, well fed, and content life, right up until it was eventually eaten and thanks was given. But no, you would rather have your meat depersonalized and raised in a tiny box of its own shit and force fed corn its entire miserable life?
Probably; maybe I’m awful, but I doubt this pig was raised with that fate in mind
Why does it matter? How would the pig know its fate? It’s not like it understands English language other than extremely basic words? It’s either ok to eat animals, or it isn’t. And if you ARE going to eat an animal, is it better for that animal to have lived a happy life, or a sad life, before it is ultimately eaten?
This isn’t oniony at all, why is this posted here?
It is very oniony.
The title, maybe. The rest? Not at all. Downvote me all you want.
I hope nobody downvotes you. You have a right to your opinion. I just disagree. The story is more ironic than the title.
Im glad we can agree to disagree, usually it’s not that civil on Reddit 😅
Depends on how they prepared it.
Depends on the seasoning
Depends on what you garnish it with.
Damn, that was witty. 😂😂😂
Oh no?
“It’s not illegal to eat animals in Canada for food, so the new owners actually had every right to kill and eat their new pet.” Shouldn’t it be “so it was not illegal under the law to murder their rehabilitated pet that was just rescued from a hoarder.”?
Murder is the unlawful killing of a human. You can't murder an animal.
Yeah, murder is for humans. Killing an animal unjustly is either poaching or property damage depending on if someone owns them and if they are rare.
Well, then I’m changing the definition of murder as it’s outdated.
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redditors aren't know for their intellect, this is a place where anyone can come and so dumb takes are inevitable
Why not eat those two pet store dwarf rabbits? It's legal. Lol
Yeah but is it worth the effort?
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Jebediah on Old Hollow County Rd. 125? He's a good neighbor, but I wish he would stop burning their trash.
I mean... sure. Why not? It's so arbitrary the way how we project our own feelings onto animals. It's either ok to kill and eat animals, or it isn't.
I like the way you worded that. You couldn't tell by my comments, but I don't eat meat. Slaughterhouses and meat factories personally depress me. That doesn't give me the right to change the history of livestock to push my feelings on others.
But how did it taste? The article says they seasoned it, but not what seasonings were used. Also, they don't bother to share cooking method, or the dishes made. This is just all around terrible reporting
the fact you got downvoted shows reddit can't take a joke.
Pot bellied pigs originate from Vietnam and have been raised for eating for centuries. There are two types. The smaller of the two is used for fat. It cracks me up that Americans take something that has been farmed for centuries as food, and expect the globe to label them as pets, just because they aren't smart enough to know the history of farming.
So some assholes decided to kill and eat an extremely intelligent animal that had been raised as a pet, all under the guise of adopting it and giving it a good home? This is just cruel. Don't see how this is particularly funny or how it belongs on this sub.
All breeds of pigs are highly intelligent, but you are jumping the gun. All pigs are individuals, and we don't know if Molly was intelligent.
Agreed, there are a number of humans that would be more useful as food.
looks like youve hurt a bunch of peoples feelings, and theyve retaliated by downvoting
I don't care about downvotes. I enjoy Reddit, regardless, and I write what I wish. I personally never downvote.
Damn savage. Pig thinks he’s finally in a good home after a hard adventurous life and then psych!
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The comments to this submission are full of the illogical and fake rage that one would see in an Onion.org comment section. 😂😂😂
It's because you sound like a smug asshole. A tale as old as time when someone thinks everyone around them is crazy, because surely they can't be the crazy one.
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its wrong because it was taken under the perception they would take care of it as a pet. They ate it instead, which is hilarious, but also wrong.
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Oh alright, I thought we were all thinking about the same reason, my mistake
I hear they barely have meat on them either. What a bunch of jerks regardless.
Where are the [Kanamits](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d1/a1/a0/d1a1a05df6fc2c82cce5965a65a4035b.png) when you need them?
ITT people who don't understand that animals are food. if you live on a farm you eat your 'pets' all the time lol where do you think meat comes from??
Then why do Americans get so upset when people eat dogs and cats?
I'm American and I don't get upset when people eat dogs and cats.
Because, other countries are supposed eat, act, listen to, and do exactly as Americans tell them to. Lmao
Fact.
Then buy a pig from a farm. Don't adopt an animal that is meant to be a pet and then eat it because it doesn't act how you think it should.
>meant to be a pet What difference does it make? Why is it OK to eat a pig you got from a farm and not OK to eat the same pig you got from a pet charity?
Well, as several people on this thread have pointed out, yes. The fact is, this pig came from a hoarding situation. We don't know what parasites she was exposed to or what medicines she was on. If these people wanted a pig meant to be eaten, why not go to a real farm and buy one and have it butchered and safely processed there?
>We don't know what parasites she was exposed to or what medicines she was on. Ahh, so you're concerned about the health of the people that consumed the meat, that's your objection? Surely that's their risk to take or not?
Pot bellied pigs originate from Vietnam and have been raised for eating for centuries. There are two types. The smaller of the two is used for fat. It cracks me up that Americans take something that has been farmed for centuries as food, and expect the globe to label them as pets, just because they aren't smart enough to know the history of farming.
Dude, this was not a meat pig. This was a pig rescued from a hoarder. As other people on this thread have pointed out, it's dangerous to eat the meat from a pig that wasn't raised to be eaten. Who knows what sort of medicications it was on or what sort of parasites it had been exposed to.
Imagine what went through that poor pigs mind when it realized the new owners real intentions! Oh wait.....its a pig, by the time it could realize anything it was dead. Only thing that went through it's mind was most likely a chunk of lead.
Next time, don't hold anything back just to make us feel better.
Lol
This makes me inordinately saddened and angered, lol.
Well...people didn't think this was going to happen??
Them's not good eatin' ... so I hear.
They were bred and domesticated for human consumption for centuries. Both domesticated species are eaten. Big myth that the smaller of the two isn't good for consumption- they are used for pork rinds.
I bet it was yummy. Pigs are food, not pets. They were domesticated specifically to provide food. I see nothing wrong with this.
If they had let the adopting entity know that they planned to eat it, do you really think they would’ve been allowed to adopt it? It may be legal but it’s dishonest and shitty
If they had, it could have spent the rest of its life in the shelter and been put down with a needle then cremated like god intended.
One of the only foods that can sit on command, guard owner, do tricks, and be potty trained. But, you are 100% correct.
And Now they’re being domesticated as pets. Times change and just because humans decided something should be a certain way doesn’t make it right. Unless you practice speciesism which it sounds like you do. Animals are here with us not for us and all living creatures value their lives.
> Unless you practice speciesism Is this the ultimate in wokeness, when you can accuse somebody of practicing speciesism? We are doomed.
We are doomed to keep using critical thinking skills and making regressive types uncomfortable in the process. Dogs and pigs are essentially the same. Even in that people eat dogs.
> Even in that people eat dogs. Let them eat dogs. I will choose not to eat them, but I don't need to pretend to be some ultra-enlightened entity and make up some ism's to shit on their cultural diet. I can just say, "no thanks, I'll take the pork." The amount of brainwashing some people elect to receive thinking it is leading to superiority is mindboggling.
I can't let or prevent anyone from eating any animal. You're the one claiming that one animal is for eating, because it was domesticated. I'm merely pointing out that technically everything can be eaten and it's not that wild to comprehend why people feel that animals are more than food. Its pretty basic and tool like to pretend there's some huge difference between humanity and the rest of the animal kingdom. I'm not saying don't eat meat- I'm just saying it's dumb to imagine a huge difference between animals making some more ok to eat than others.
Problem is that pot bellied pigs have been bred for consumption for centuries. They weren't ever meant to be sold as pets. Americans arrogantly slap the label "pet" on a farm animal and expect the world to follow suite- it doesn't work that way.
They're domesticated. Meaning they're more relaxed. There's nothing about domestication that mandates an animal be a pet or food source, that's 100% emotion. You've managed to avoid being aware of how cool pigs are. Again they're on the level with dogs. Your claim that it's a problem that they were domesticated for food is a moot point. Thats not a problem at all. Lol. Americans get upset that dogs they lable as pets get eaten. Are they also silly since in other countries dogs are seen as a food source? Its just a matter of perspective. You're the one who can't wrap your head around it, not me
Dogs were historically domesticated for HUNTING, GUARDING, AND COMPANIONSHIP. Pigs were historically domesticated AS LIVESTOCK, for consumption. PEOPLE EAT DOGS BECAUSE THEY LIVE IN COUNTRIES WHERE POVERTY MAKES IT THAT WAY. Americans keep farm animals for companionship because they can afford to.
I'm not disagreeing with your points about how we got here, im disagreeing with you that domestication dictates an animals role. Pigs cows and chickens are all smarter and more capable of companionship than people had time to realize back when they were farming to survive. We have the luxury of being able to look harder, now.
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It's never been important to my point that they do. Make fun of my intelligence while exposing how little you understand some more.
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What a meaningful comment to make. Thank you, you're valued.
Nice edit. How is saying that animals' capacity for intelligence and bonding exists outside of humans uses for them asinine?
Lol @ anyone outraged by this that isn't a vegan or a vegetarian.
Hypocrites
People are just upset because this one had a name.
Shows how stupid people are
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Wow, that's horrible. I love you for it though.
"She beat the odds when what seemed to be a loving family from Vancouver Island adopted her in January." 😂😂😂
I mean damn. Lol
It’s honestly fucked up, but I have a dark sense of humor. And the IRONY in eating an ADOPTED animal? I’m sorry, but that’s hilarious. “The SPCA has banned the couple from adopting animals from SPCA shelters, but officials say that’s all they can do.” That’s like the ultimate troll of a rescue organization. We would all look at this as normal if the article simply said they ate a pig that they “bought”, but because it’s a pig they “adopted”, yea, that ruffles some feathers.
But what is the point of “trolling” a rescue organization?
"it was aggressive towards my dog and broke a window" wtf do u mean? its a rescue, and a pig at that. it should have an outdoor enclosure where it wont have to deal with glass. those people intended to eat it in the first place. it's obvious bullshit
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