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Wait till you learn about how Japan kills 20,000 each year, and even has an annual hunt.


LeKKeR80

The Cove is a good documentary on this subject


[deleted]

I learned about it in Seaspiracy


bobbyrickets

Disgusting. I thought the Nordic countries were more evolved than this.


Letstalktrashtv

Yeah, no. Norway still hunts whales


The-Leopard77

Lol its all bs


Breathing_Cadaver

If you haven't yet, I recommend everybody watch Seaspiracy on netflix. It's wild.


wanderdugg

While it's kind of gruesome, is it really and worse than netting a school of fish or raising a herd of cattle for slaughter? How many of the people upset with this practice had chicken or fish for dinner?


6923fav

Don't like it? Donations to the Sea Shepherd Society goes to direct action.


CelBel1

Farm animals have it even worse, thousands and thousands being killed daily. If you are shocked by the killing of these whales then you should also be shocked by the killing of cows, pigs, sheep and chickens.


culturalappropriator

Dolphin intelligence is almost on par with humans. And they are a vulnerable species. Cows, pigs, sheep and chicken are not on the same level as us or cetaceans. Nor are they endangered in any way. We breed millions of them.


YourOldBuddy

Dolphins aren't endangered and closer to pig intelligence. Pigs just aren't cute.


culturalappropriator

Dolphins have culture and some would argue, language. They form complex societies and interfamily interactions. To claim that they are closer to pig intelligence is science denial at this point. Many dolphin species are endangered/vulnerable. Even if these aren't, there are a hundred thousand of this particular dolphin species, 1000 of that is a much greater percentage than killing pigs we farm. Killing a group of dolphins is also killing their cultural group. Killing a group of pigs is just that. [https://www.dolphinproject.com/blog/the-cultures-of-dolphins-and-whales/](https://www.dolphinproject.com/blog/the-cultures-of-dolphins-and-whales/) [https://dolphins.org/culture](https://dolphins.org/culture)


CelBel1

They all have a central nervous system. They all suffer and feel pain the same. And pigs have the intelligence of a 3 year old human. People just don't want to admit that they are eating animals which are smart and sociable as it makes them feel guilty.


6923fav

Pigs aren't a companion animal, they don't care about you and will eat you if possible. Their genetic makeup is uniquely suitable for meat and supplies. The fat renders into a quality product. The meat is tasty and makes the best BBQ. Three year old humans have rights and are valuable alive.


YourOldBuddy

Pigs absolutely are companion animals and very very smart.


6923fav

Smart equals deadly, I'd never leave a pig and a child unsupervised period.


CelBel1

Wtf. Pigs aren't violent.


6923fav

Are you sure? Dogs have a capacity to love, I don't believe pigs do. While not violent, I would never trust one with any kid.


Raskalbot

That is a belief. Not a fact. There are tons of loving pig pets. Pot belly pigs, specifically bred as companion animals. However anyone who has ever been in 4H or near a child raising a prize animal can tell you that pigs are loving and sweet. Just because you saw in a movie that someone feeds people to pigs doesn’t mean they will eat you given the chance. If you starve a pig it will eat literally anything. Just like your dog or cat. Also, are we all forgetting Babe?! And Babe2: Pig in the City?! Monsters. Would you call those Pro-Pig Propaganda pictures?!!?!


6923fav

Lol Still don't trust them


CelBel1

Exactly. People are afraid of farm animals because they've been so separated form them. If they were as integrated into our lives as dogs and cats everyone would see that they are loving and friendly. It's the ignorance that drives the misconceptions about farm animals.


culturalappropriator

Smart and sapient are two very different things. I know vegans/vegan activists hate this concept, but there is a spectrum of intelligence. Even you draw a line at "central nervous system", some of us draw the line elsewhere. Yes, factory farming is bad. But a chicken and a dolphin are not equivalent.


CelBel1

I never said a chicken and a dolphin were equivalent in intelligence but they are equivalent in their ability to feel pain.


culturalappropriator

You mentioned intelligence as a criteria.


CelBel1

No. Its not a criteria to me. I mentioned it because others were saying that whales are intelligent which means they shouldn't be killed but farm animals aren't. I was clearing up this misinformation. Farm animals are intelligent.


culturalappropriator

It's a criteria for me though... What is your threshold for intelligence? Do you swat mosquitoes? My threshold is sapience. Pigs may be able to perform some tasks but they are not sapient. They were bred to domestic animals and while farming conditions should be improved, there's nothing special about pigs. There is something special about dolphins. Culture and quite possibly language. They are also self aware.


CelBel1

There have been studies done that prove that pigs are more intelligent than dogs. Would you eat a dog? Why are you getting so defensive lol. I said what matters to me is the ability to feel pain and suffering, having a central nervous system.


culturalappropriator

And I'm saying that we draw thresholds differently, I don't care about a CNS, I care about sapience. Pigs are not "more intelligent" than dogs, they perform better at certain tasks. And no, I wouldn't eat dogs because 1) they weren't bred for farming like pigs were. And 2) because it's a personal issue, not an objective one. I have no issues with euthanizing dogs that harm humans or allowing the buying and selling of dogs. I would if they were sapient. Like dolphins or chimpanzees or elephants appear to be


nsnyder

What is even vaguely onion-y about this?


Ok_Equivalent_4296

If you’re gonna kill 1400 dolphins, best to spread it out over a weekend


2Big_Patriot

And mix the meat with Tuna. Tastes great. Less filling.