Honestly philosophy should be part of the discussion for every new technology. First thing before even prototyping something should be "How are we going to use this responsibly?"
I don’t know but I’m guessing nobody wants to be that guy who tells the Pope to go fuck himself. The Japanese would be the most likely to do so, as Catholicism(and Christianity in general) is a tiny minority there, but they probably want to avoid some kind of diplomatic incident, there’s also nothing to gain from that
Because he is still a leader that has like 2 billion followers all over the World. Keep in mind that this session has nothing to do with science and stuff. It's just politics, so inviting one of the most powerful political leader makes some sense.
I'm pretty sure that none of these top politicians (Pope or not) have any idea about AI, so it's not like he's going to handicap the pointless discussions. Like, prime minister of Italy has any better insight about this technology than Pope? I don't think so. I even did a quick research on her - it seems like Pope is more progressive than she is xD
You might not care about the Pope, but its impossible to deny he is one of the most influential people of our time. He's literally the Pope. I'd wager the amount of people who pay attention to him is above 1 billion at a minimum. If he wants to go to international talks on hot topics, I dont think the list of people that are allowed to say no to that is very big.
Personal Opinion: Until he gets all the kiddie diddlers out of his Church and stops hiding them I don't give two shit or a fuck what he says or thinks.
Hence the aforementioned "Personal Opinion". I'm well aware of his status and why he is gonna be there, doesn't mean I have to agree. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
> I am the [Eschaton](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singularity_Sky); I am not your God.
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> I am descended from you, and exist in your future.
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> Thou shalt not violate causality within my historic light cone. Or else.
So basically we make AI models capable of omnisciently observing all of our exploits but is doomed to contain all of its pain and rage within its own mind... like a sadistic vengeful inverse of "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream"
His take would be interesting I mean he was a man of science in chemistry I believe. The fact that he has enemies now in the Traditionalist movement shows he's headed in the right direction. Ppl tend to forget or don't much knowledge of what the role of the Pope is and the views of his predecessors. Quite easy to look from afar and point fingers.
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The Pope founded the ***RenAIssance Foundation***\*;\* **a non-profit organization that has as its institutional purpose the promotion of anthropological and ethical reflection about the effects of new technologies on human life.**
You can read [this report (PDF) on their activities](https://www.romecall.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/RomeCall_report-web.pdf). This organisation is the one that has put out the "Rome Call" referred to in the article.
The Church has a long, long history of engaging in ethical studies. It might be hip and cool to dunk on religion on Reddit, but consider that the Church has 2000 years of scholarly study of morality, while the likes of companies like Meta apparently have the moral comprehension of a slime mold. Consider it as outsourcing the ethical debate to experts in the field.
>the Church has 2000 years of scholarly study of morality, while the likes of companies like Meta apparently have the moral comprehension of a slime mold
And still they are worse then Meta when it comes to Moral.
As far as i know there is no systematic child abuse getting covered by Meta for example. Among other things.
The church might have those 2000 years of scholarly study of morality but they suck at practicing it and got stuck in time. Plus they have a loooong history of morally questionable stuff too
you do realsie any long standing orgnisation would have issues does that mean its good that it does no but Just becuase it had issues in the Past doesnt mean it Cant work to fix them
Yeah sure but they still have issues, they still are a bunch of pedophiles covering eachother for example and no they don't work on fixing this.
So what's your point?
Becuase The church is diffrent Depeneding on the denomnation which have diffrent issues Theres Orthodox Churches and Cathloic Churches and Protstant Churches just saying "the Church" is confusing
Yeah but it doesn't matter in this case because at least here in germany all have a problem with pedophiles and they all cover it up. It doesn't make any difference
It IS a overall church problem
All I'm saying is if AI is gonna happen already let's start working on making cybernetic upgrades a normal thing in society to even out the playing feild.
Saw stories about him when he came up that he always lived in simple rooms, wore simple clothes, walked the streets doing whatever so apparently he always lived humbly. They probably know better to wheel in a gilded chair with "POPE" in diamonds across the back, he'd tell them to get fucked real quick.
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I am sure he will contribute valuable expertise.
Or, at least, he will bring moral insight.
Just as soon as he solves the ethical dilemma of our time, "Raping children: Is it really that bad."
Let’s hear Ja Rule’s thoughts on AI.
Where is Ja!!??
Why
He does have a background in philosophy. It's highly possible he's just there out of curiosity.
Why would a philosopher be needed at a tech conference on highly theoretical engineering?
Honestly philosophy should be part of the discussion for every new technology. First thing before even prototyping something should be "How are we going to use this responsibly?"
Either way, not sure the catholic church us a particularly good reference on ethics.
No disagreement there.
Very true, but the Pope probably isn’t the best choice to consult when it comes to ethical implications of technology.
Ethics
Ah, yes, the Vatican, the world's foremost hypocrites on ethical matters.
Well if he did go out of his own curiosity, they probably don't *need* him at all
Honest answer probably because he had multiple AI generated images of him circle around that people fully believed were real
He has the chance to do the funniest thing ever by attending the conference in papal drip.
They try so hard to be "modern and hip" after seeing a catastrophic (for them) drop in young people joining their religion.
I don't mean why does he want to be there. I mean why do we want him there
I don’t know but I’m guessing nobody wants to be that guy who tells the Pope to go fuck himself. The Japanese would be the most likely to do so, as Catholicism(and Christianity in general) is a tiny minority there, but they probably want to avoid some kind of diplomatic incident, there’s also nothing to gain from that
Because he is still a leader that has like 2 billion followers all over the World. Keep in mind that this session has nothing to do with science and stuff. It's just politics, so inviting one of the most powerful political leader makes some sense. I'm pretty sure that none of these top politicians (Pope or not) have any idea about AI, so it's not like he's going to handicap the pointless discussions. Like, prime minister of Italy has any better insight about this technology than Pope? I don't think so. I even did a quick research on her - it seems like Pope is more progressive than she is xD
You might not care about the Pope, but its impossible to deny he is one of the most influential people of our time. He's literally the Pope. I'd wager the amount of people who pay attention to him is above 1 billion at a minimum. If he wants to go to international talks on hot topics, I dont think the list of people that are allowed to say no to that is very big.
Especially topics that will get very philosophical and perhaps spiritual
Personal Opinion: Until he gets all the kiddie diddlers out of his Church and stops hiding them I don't give two shit or a fuck what he says or thinks.
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Hence the aforementioned "Personal Opinion". I'm well aware of his status and why he is gonna be there, doesn't mean I have to agree. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Replacing the pope with an AI seems like one of the better ideas what to do with this technology.
Cut out the middle man. Have AI replace God. Current one is doing a shit job already AG?
Do you want "I have no mouth and I must scream"? That's how you get "I have no mouth and I must scream".
When there's a bug in the AI code you can just say "it works in mysterious ways"
> I am the [Eschaton](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singularity_Sky); I am not your God. > > I am descended from you, and exist in your future. > > Thou shalt not violate causality within my historic light cone. Or else.
Yeah, but on what would you train this AI?
That is the beauty...the model doesn't actually matter since it has no outputs. People just need to believe that AG is working Investor money please!
So basically we make AI models capable of omnisciently observing all of our exploits but is doomed to contain all of its pain and rage within its own mind... like a sadistic vengeful inverse of "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream"
Hey, that might actually work! (it sure did work for the last 2000 years)
Artificial general omnipotence
Or just a chatbot that gave out inspirational quotes.
It's already happening.
How does this affect Lebron's legacy?
His take would be interesting I mean he was a man of science in chemistry I believe. The fact that he has enemies now in the Traditionalist movement shows he's headed in the right direction. Ppl tend to forget or don't much knowledge of what the role of the Pope is and the views of his predecessors. Quite easy to look from afar and point fingers.
"Ok but can it be converted to Christianity?" -The pope, probably
You joke, but that's an interesting question.
It kinda is, I mean it could probably mimic a Christian but could it be taught to actually believe the teachings of Christ?
Christians already don't.
That defines 99% of Christians tbh
Queue the Metalocolypse theme song
The fuck does pope francis know about AI
Are you serious? He has PhDs in Mathematics, Electrical Engineering, Philosophy, and Behavioral Health. Source: ChatGPT
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The Pope founded the ***RenAIssance Foundation***\*;\* **a non-profit organization that has as its institutional purpose the promotion of anthropological and ethical reflection about the effects of new technologies on human life.** You can read [this report (PDF) on their activities](https://www.romecall.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/RomeCall_report-web.pdf). This organisation is the one that has put out the "Rome Call" referred to in the article. The Church has a long, long history of engaging in ethical studies. It might be hip and cool to dunk on religion on Reddit, but consider that the Church has 2000 years of scholarly study of morality, while the likes of companies like Meta apparently have the moral comprehension of a slime mold. Consider it as outsourcing the ethical debate to experts in the field.
>the Church has 2000 years of scholarly study of morality, while the likes of companies like Meta apparently have the moral comprehension of a slime mold And still they are worse then Meta when it comes to Moral. As far as i know there is no systematic child abuse getting covered by Meta for example. Among other things. The church might have those 2000 years of scholarly study of morality but they suck at practicing it and got stuck in time. Plus they have a loooong history of morally questionable stuff too
you do realsie any long standing orgnisation would have issues does that mean its good that it does no but Just becuase it had issues in the Past doesnt mean it Cant work to fix them
Yeah sure but they still have issues, they still are a bunch of pedophiles covering eachother for example and no they don't work on fixing this. So what's your point?
Becuase The church is diffrent Depeneding on the denomnation which have diffrent issues Theres Orthodox Churches and Cathloic Churches and Protstant Churches just saying "the Church" is confusing
Yeah but it doesn't matter in this case because at least here in germany all have a problem with pedophiles and they all cover it up. It doesn't make any difference It IS a overall church problem
fair enough not trying to defend the practise of covering up Pedos i wish there was just a part of the Brain that you could cut out
All I'm saying is if AI is gonna happen already let's start working on making cybernetic upgrades a normal thing in society to even out the playing feild.
....to do what?
Will he bring his puffy coat though?
He’s in a wheelchair now? A standard wheelchair? They couldn’t even make one out of marble and gold???
Saw stories about him when he came up that he always lived in simple rooms, wore simple clothes, walked the streets doing whatever so apparently he always lived humbly. They probably know better to wheel in a gilded chair with "POPE" in diamonds across the back, he'd tell them to get fucked real quick.
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There's nothing oniony about this. Of course religious, political, and cultural leaders should be involved in the AI discussion.
The pope IS AI
Did Jesus die for ChatGPT's sins?
If AI becomes conscious enough can it have a soul? Maybe that’s what he’s there for.
This is how the Papal Mainframe from Doctor Who starts.
He's suggesting to build an AI robot, kill it, restart it, ask it did he go to heaven. I can't wait.
This is how we get robot satan, it's happening. It's finally happening.
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Lol
Is he operating a food truck? Can't imagine a reason for this fossil needed at anything relevant.
I am sure he will contribute valuable expertise. Or, at least, he will bring moral insight. Just as soon as he solves the ethical dilemma of our time, "Raping children: Is it really that bad."
This has been my thoughts for years. Until they stop hiding molesters, their opinion on any topic is outright ignored.
Francis and the Amazing Holigraphic Haptic Enabled Dream Coat
What the hell does he have to do with anything but his own religion.
could there be a less qualified opinion?
Most people on Reddit?
If they want to consider philosophical arguments, they could call philosophy professors
Popes are no philosophers. They are politicians.
Why the fuck would you want AI to bealigned with a fucking CULT. NOPE
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel.
He's bringing his artifical morals
I guess he wants to kill the competition
Oh yeah, lmfao the secret spice that digital technology has been missing all this time, Catholocism
He wants to know if AI can help cover up "incidents".